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slater
02-16-2003, 08:42 AM
I have approx 4 acres of low lying land near a creek bed and need some ideas on how to landscape this........ it has mostly small trees and the larger trees have mostly rotten roots due to wet ground. You can walk through this area...........it does not really flood. I just worry about snakes during the summer and would like to clear the trees and do something with it. The soil is mostly brown clay - expansive type - high minerals. Any ideas??

fblandscape
02-16-2003, 10:58 AM
I would suggest that you investigate getting wetlands permits before you talk about doing anything else. If the area is wet, and near a body of running water that usually constitutes wetlands. If you take anything out of them, put anything in them, change them in ANY way, you are talking about BIG fines.

slater
02-16-2003, 11:03 AM
This is private property.........not a designated sanctuary. Any more ideas.

Randy Scott
02-16-2003, 12:13 PM
Doesn't matter if it's private property. I would check with the DNR to be safe. Any land adjacent to any waters of the state needs to be checked on by the DNR before you do anything. There are some restrictions and I strongly suggest checking before moving ahead with any work. Better to be safe, than fined later. It's your responsibility as a contractor to check these, don't take the owners word.

slater
02-16-2003, 01:28 PM
I actually own the property and know it is ok to proceed with any landscape possibilities...........

Kirk
02-17-2003, 04:27 PM
In my past experience, I know it may come as a pain in the butt, however, Randy Scott is right. As fair or unfair as it may sound conservation has the say in all situations. Not to worry much, for most of the time you can do pretty much what you want, but it is best to check before you end up with a larger problem than snakes. It can be a bummer getting a piece of paper in the mail that catches you completely off guard not to mention the $5000 fine that I got for back filling on my brothers land and I got off cheap. It wasn't even within 300 yards of any water. It just got damp during the spring. Who knew?

Anyways, don't take offence to any of this; we're just trying to give you a heads up.

With all that said, what exactly would you like to do with this piece of land? Will you be using in for recreation? Or just dressing it up a bit to see from a far?

Kirk

slater
02-17-2003, 06:28 PM
Kirk,

Thanks to you and others for the reply. I have no idea what I should do. I just would like for this low lying land to ..........I guess for better words............look better.............whether it be clearing what little trees there are and plant grass or something else. I'm just looking for some ideas........ Thanks!!

Kirk
02-17-2003, 07:03 PM
No problem slater, if you do get a go ahead and wish to do something nice, you may consider your options taking into consideration that is a fairly large space to fill and clear for that matter. There are many different things you can do like, bring in fill that offers a nice rich soil, which can be rather costly. Personally I could consider selective filling and utilize some of your low-lying levels for wetlands plants. Perhaps creating some sort of wandering path or paths keeping some of your existing healthy trees. There is a little trick we do with the Willow tree, which grows very well in low wet levels. To keep the cost down (as long as you don't mind allowing for a little time in development) Take a branch (around 3/8" in diameter) of a Willow tree, cut it into about 10" lengths (depending on how many trees you want), place in a water glass (one piece for each glass) in a window with sun, allow time for roots to appear. Once you have nice roots you can plant them in soil. A Willow can grow as high as 5' in a year. Again taking the idea of creating elevated path/s through your 4-acre lot opens you to a world of opportunity. There is just so much room to work with there. You may want to take a look through out the Internet, magazines or even talk to a few garden plant suppliers (Picture are worth a thousand words). You can email my wife who is a specialist in garden design. saoostermeier@hotmail.com . Granted, keeping in mind we are very busy, but always like to lend advice and ideas.

It's probably something you should take some serious time to layout and consider what you want as far as maintenance, creation time, and how much money you want to spend. It actually sound like you have a lot of work on your hands but it can be quite a spiritual experience, pardon the expression.

Kirk

slater
02-17-2003, 07:08 PM
Thank you Kirk..........very nice of you to take the time to offer solutions. I sincerely appreciate your help and suggestions.