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ant
08-26-2000, 02:20 PM
WHATS THE GOING RATE FOR CORE-AERATION AND WERE ARE YOU FROM.
ANTHONY

accuratelawn
08-26-2000, 02:25 PM
Core aeration $10 per 1,000 sq is what most charge. Some a litle higher.

KirbysLawn
08-26-2000, 02:29 PM
$12 per 1000 with 5000 min. Located in NC just outside Charlotte. With fescue seed and fert $24.00 per 1000, discounts above 10,000 sf.

1MajorTom
08-26-2000, 03:02 PM
We normally charge 3 times more than what it costs the customer for their grass cutting. Sometimes 4 times more depending upon the terrain.
Located here in PA. Don't know if we are too high or too low, but so far our price hasn't been questioned.


Jodi

ant
08-26-2000, 03:08 PM
KIRBY; DO YOU HAVE GOOD LUCK WITH SEEDING AFTER AERATION.

KirbysLawn
08-26-2000, 03:31 PM
Yep, unless a hurricaine comes through, like last year. :( The aerated lawns lost seed, the aeravated lawns faired much better.

SJR Lawncare
08-26-2000, 04:16 PM
Im in Md. & I charge 4x the mow price. Never had someone say "thats too much".
SJR Lawncare

Eric ELM
08-26-2000, 04:37 PM
We charge 3 times the mowing charge, sometimes 4 times as much depending on how many obsticles there are in the way here in the Chicago area.

Evan528
08-26-2000, 06:58 PM
i charge 6 times the mow price for aeration and overseeding.

gusbuster
08-26-2000, 10:16 PM
Got a second question in regard to this post. How many of you remove the cores after you aerate?? Doesn't it screw up your machines if you try to pulverize using your machines?

First time I have a client have their lawns aerated and they leave the plugs there, let them know in the future i will charge them for removal. Second time, guess who get's a bill?
John

GroundKprs
08-26-2000, 10:36 PM
Removing cores in ornamental turf is not necessary. Even in some heavy soils I do, they are dissolved by rain/irrigation in a max of 3 weeks. Assume by machine you mean mower, but my mowing at 2" does not cause any problem after a coring.
It is especially useful to LEAVE THE CORES when aerating to correct excess thatch. Soil and microbes are washed down and trapped in thatch layer, promoting better decay in the future.

tlcgrounds
08-31-2000, 11:48 PM
Thanks for the great info guys. I am a veteran of lawn manicures and this information is giving me more comfort in moving onto other services.

ant
09-02-2000, 09:23 PM
thanks guys for the info
anthony

ant
09-07-2000, 09:57 PM
kerby when you said discounts in price above 10,000 sf .
how much.
anthony

ant
08-13-2001, 10:49 PM
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Lawn-Scapes
08-13-2001, 11:10 PM
Yeah... how much of a discount?

There's a difference between 3 or 4 times the cut and $10-12 per 1000 sf...

Let's say you have an acre account...

44 x $10 = $440 or x $7 = $308

or

$50 (per cut) x 3 = $150 or x 4 = $200

Which is more realistic or fair?

EJK2352
08-13-2001, 11:14 PM
I charge double what I charge for a lawn treatment. :) ;) :) ED

NateinAtl
08-14-2001, 06:19 AM
For anything under 5000 sq ft we charge $50. Then add $5 per 1000 after that. Keep in mind this is just for aeration, and it is very rare that you get any lawns over 12000 feet sq in the suburbs of Atlanta. To aerate and seed fescue lawns is a little bit more difficult . It really depends on slopes, bare spots, etc.

MOW ED
08-14-2001, 07:15 AM
$12.00/1K.

HBFOXJr
08-14-2001, 07:20 AM
aeration only

$85 for the first 5K and $10/k after, single pass and includes marking sprinkler heads, no seed

bridges
08-14-2001, 07:18 PM
What type of aerator do you guys have? And what one is better, the pull behind or walk behind and brand?

Does anyone have one on the back of thier ztr? After over seeding, How soon can you mow?

65hoss
08-15-2001, 12:49 AM
I charge 2.5 to 3 times the cutting price.

cp
08-15-2001, 06:22 PM
Most of my residentials are 2-4 acres. There is no way I can charge any of the rates I have seen on this forum.

Whether it's .02 s/ft or 10.00 per 1000.

I'm a gonna havta sypher thisn abit.:blob3:

lawrence stone
08-15-2001, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by cp
Most of my residentials are 2-4 acres. There is no way I can charge any of the rates I have seen on this forum.


You have to base ALL your rates on actual production rates, taking into consideration travel, truck trailer cost, equipment cost, fuel usage, labor other overhead then adding the needed gross profit margin.

If you don't "do the math" you are working like a carpenter without a tape measure.

TruGreenDedLawn
08-16-2001, 04:22 AM
WE charge $2.50 per 1000

HBFOXJr
08-16-2001, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by TruGreenDedLawn
WE charge $2.50 per 1000

Tell me the decimal point is in the wrong place. A 5,000 sq ft lawn is $12.50, right?

tlcgrounds
08-16-2001, 01:16 PM
DO any of you guys charge by the hour. I think that is teh way I'm going to go.$40.00 per hour not invcluding rental fee.

CMerLand
08-16-2001, 02:39 PM
TLC

Far be it from me to tell you how to run your business, however, charging by the hour does nothing but limit your income potential. Those who look to get paid by the hour are insecure about their bidding systems, are unsure how long the job will take or what it entails or are afraid of the risk of bidding too high or too low. (I use to bid snowplowing by the hour until the one storm I got paid $ 750 an hour because they required the price per inch)

Also it means not getting paid to drive from job to job, as your client is not going to want to hear about the 15 min drive there and back to your shop.

If you want to be paid by the hour get a job working for someone else. Otherwise get out a pencil, figure your numbers and come up with a price.

tlcgrounds
08-21-2001, 09:10 PM
Man that's some tough criticism. Look guy, this is my first year offering this service. Don't I need to get a feel for what I can do in an hour then claculate that into square feet and add the overhead. I'm not some punk kid without a brain.
What i menat was by the hour was estimating in my head by the hour. I see a property I think it woudl take 2 hours with a walkbehind core aerator. I want $40.00 an hour plus $12 per hour so the estimate $104.00. If it takes less time than I'm ahead that much more.
Giving up and working for someone else. That's a pretty big insult. I'm sorry you have more experience on the topic. Besides, tell me where I could find a guy willing to pay me $40.00 an hour to work for him.

Allyn
08-21-2001, 09:32 PM
For your first year or even a couple of jobs. By the hour might be a good idea for you. It will give you a feel for the job and machine. You may loose a little money for the first few times, but keep close eye on the time it takes.

In mowing I have found that I figure a lawn should take me 20 minutes. To cut, trim and edge. I charge $20.00 per cut. Now because I use my Z master I get done faster than that. There are some jobs that only take 50 minutes and I get $70.00 for the cut. For me if I don't make at least 1 dollar a minute. The company or me am not making money. For areation, charge twice and see what happens.

Allyn:alien:

KirbysLawn
08-21-2001, 11:47 PM
If you price by the sf and find out what the maket in your area brings then you will not loose any money. When you say $40 per hour that sounds nice, you are not making $40 per hour! You must figure what your expenses per 1000sf will be, figure your pay, take out taxes, then you will know what you are making, it will not be $40 an hour.

TGDL, $2.50 per 1000, please tell me you are kidding!

Allyn
08-22-2001, 12:04 AM
I agree with what you are saying. It is better no question about it. But to take the time to wheel the lawn for size. That takes time. Most can look at a lawn and tell the size.
Hey its a start. In the long run, he will learn to look and give a price and make the money that he needs.

Allyn

65hoss
08-22-2001, 12:13 AM
There is no way I would spend 2 hours on a property aerating for $104.

I'll pay anyone here to do my aerating for 2.5 per 1000.

I believe I would use the aerator as a boat anchor before I did anything for that cheap. Time and equipment is way to expensive to play these games.

KirbysLawn
08-22-2001, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by 65hoss
I believe I would use the aerator as a boat anchor before I did anything for that cheap. Time and equipment is way to expensive to play these games.

AMEN!! Good lord....:rolleyes:

HBFOXJr
08-22-2001, 07:36 AM
Why are so many people too lazy to measure a lawn? Almost everything we do is a function of size and time altered by degree of difficulty.

How will you know how much seed and fert to buy when your asked to provide that service?

How will you know if you apply the proper amount of product?

Will you complain that a ceratin product didn't work or worked too well after you apply and unknown amount to an unknown size?

And on and on!

Buy a wheel and a Times Expedition watch with stop watch function. Measure a couple of friends and family lawns and aerate them or a portion thereof for free and time your self. Knowing your production rate, develop a rate that will produce about $80 to $100 per hour.

dhicks
08-22-2001, 11:40 PM
We typically charge 3 times the mowing price unless it's commercial and then 4 times mowing price. What a bargan!!

walker-talker
08-23-2001, 09:02 PM
I am just strating out in the business. My best advice is bidding is to get different bids on your own lawn for different applications and then just go from there. I don't aerate for less than $75 a lawn, and on average it take me 20-30 minutes.

cp
08-23-2001, 09:27 PM
Well I'm no professor when it comes to this stuff, but I can assure you I won't be doing anything for 2.50/1000...

My question is for the guys charging 2-3 times the mowing rate, do you own or rent your equipment???

2nd Question: Do you add any additional advertising during this time of the year???

Thanks Chris..

walker-talker
08-23-2001, 09:58 PM
I place ads is the service directory in my local newspaper. Cost is approx $75 a month.
Matt

strickdad
08-25-2001, 03:52 PM
are you guys mowing before you aerate ?? if so does your price include this

walker-talker
08-25-2001, 03:58 PM
When I come out out to give the orginal estimate, I ask the homeowner to mow the lawn before I aerate or dethatch. Often I will bring this equipment with me, plus my mower just in case they want the work done then and there.

kutnkru
08-25-2001, 05:01 PM
Turfco has a pamphlet that tells you how to figure what you can make from offering this service to clients.

They suggest that you cahrge twice as much as you would for an application or mowing whichever is higher.

Their profit formula is shown like this:
Calculate:
8 Lawns a Day at $70 per lawn = $560.00
(per-lawn billing based on double the billing for one mowing at $35)
Subtract:
Labor (10 hrs @ 10.50) = (105.00)
Truck/Trailer = (50.00)
Gas Depreciation = (20.00)
Insurance and misc. = (20.00)
Equals:
Total Revenue per Day = $365.00

Hope this helps some figure what they should charge.
Kris

leeslawncare
08-25-2001, 05:32 PM
I charge 28.00 per k .seed areate an fert. soil test 25.00 an lime ..i think it was 10.00 a bag but i cant rember i'll have to check my records .an it works for me .I call a local place to get a estimate last year (just to see what the rate was )an they wanted 37.00 per k !!! can you believe that.

GreenStar
08-25-2001, 10:46 PM
it all depends on the equipment that needs to be used.hooker style aerator we charge $20 to stop then $5 per 1k.if we use a wb aerator it's $20 to stop $10 1k.we mark all heads and have a sprinkler guy thats does same day fixes for cheap if we bust one and yes you'll bust one