Kansas City!!!!

[THRIFTY]

Sorry guys this might be a tad off topic but.......GO KU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mowman84]

I am going to try and get things finished earily so I can watch the game.

[carcrz]

Looks like a soggy week for everyone here. Stay dry & healthy, if you can!

[Adam3669]

So where is everyone watching the game tonight? Anyone going up to lawrence to enjoy the atmosphere?

Me, I'll be downstairs, relaxing on the La-Z-boy, watchin it on the 65" :weightlifter:

[carcrz]

Right where I am right now - in my recliner getting ready for an afternoon nap. :waving:

[Adam3669]

What a freakin game!! GO KU!

[racer56]

We are down on Mass street right now it is crazy!!! Most likely a big population boom in 9 months from tonight,ha.

[IN2MOWN]

Great game. Im not much of a KU fan not being from here but Im happy for all my friends who graduated from there and all the ones who follow and cheer for KU.

[IN2MOWN]

Looks like a crappy week of weather...not very happy about it. Tomorrow might be the only day to get out and do something. FOX4 is calling for flurries on Friday :(

[itsallaboutthestripes]

We always expect the exact opposite of what ever Mike ''No Window'' Thompson says. He has to be the worst weather man in KC. You can watch him at night and watch Don Harmon in the morning and the are completely different forecast.

[IN2MOWN]

We always expect the exact opposite of what ever Mike ''No Window'' Thompson says. He has to be the worst weather man in KC. You can watch him at night and watch Don Harmon in the morning and the are completely different forecast.



Id rather watch those 2 then sit through Katie Horner screaming armageddon every time it starts to rain or snow.

But Ill take Harman or Leezak any day of the week. Those 2 are usually right on.

[itsallaboutthestripes]

I agree. But Horner is a lot better to look at.

[IN2MOWN]

Today might be a good day to drop door hangers off.

[carcrz]

What do you think would net better results - door hangers or a brochure in a baggie w/ some seed on the driveway? I kind of thing they would get about the same result, but take much less time for a very minimal extra cost. I think I figured it out to be like a few cents a house.

[carcrz]

In addition, think I'd get complaints for littering on their driveways?

[IN2MOWN]

Well I got about 30 out and the rain started coming down in sheets. Maybe this afternoon.

[KCfireman]

I live in OP and mow down in southern OP. To me thats were the real money is at. All those multi-million dollar homes are just great to mow.

[IN2MOWN]

Got some more out this afternoon.

Damn wind is biting today...

[carcrz]

It did allow me to find the floor in my garage today though. I almost forgot what it looked like, though I was constantly reminded it was there by the Mrs. to my left. I think I may even be able to get my truck & her car in there now, just have to empty a few miscellaneous parts boxes into their bins.

[IN2MOWN]

you can come over and do mine if you want carcrz. Every time I clean it out my wife and father in law pack more crap in it.

[carcrz]

I think I'll have to pass this time. I think it looks so much cleaner this time. Probably because I took out all my wife's At Home America things and put them in her office where they belong. I had no idea how many items she has accumulated as display items over the last couple years.

[IN2MOWN]

I think I'll have to pass this time. I think it looks so much cleaner this time. Probably because I took out all my wife's At Home America things and put them in her office where they belong. I had no idea how many items she has accumulated as display items over the last couple years.



I thought my wife was the only one bought that stuff and left it in boxes next to my desk.

[carcrz]

I guess it's no worse than my stuff. You have to have a little inventory to sell on hand at shows & other places. But why do they think they can store it in our areas rather than all the other rooms we have that are for offices or storage? That I'll never understand.

[IN2MOWN]

I guess it's no worse than my stuff. You have to have a little inventory to sell on hand at shows & other places. But why do they think they can store it in our areas rather than all the other rooms we have that are for offices or storage? That I'll never understand.

Your wife sells it?

My wife does Discovery Toys on the side. I know about the whole inventory thing...

She keeps all of her stuff in the basement in travel bags so she can just wheel it around to different places.

About once every 2 months she will host a party and its up to bedroom or out to the bar for me.I just cant sit around and watch 15 women thumbing through catalogs drinking my liquor cabinet dry.

[Icemanku]

What's the name of the mulch place in Merriam? where is it? Is it cheaper than Mulch Mart in Martin City? I can't for the life of me find Mulch Mart's #.

[carcrz]

Your wife sells it?


Yeah. She's been selling it for a couple years now I guess. Pretty much on the just when she knows I will be able to take care of the kiddo though.

[carcrz]

Training day yesterday. (Don't worry, everything was turned off in case you were wondering)

[IN2MOWN]

What's the name of the mulch place in Merriam? where is it? Is it cheaper than Mulch Mart in Martin City? I can't for the life of me find Mulch Mart's #.



I go to Johnson County Building Materials in Merriam.

[racer56]

carcrz
My wife just saw the pictures of your little one. Cute for sure. Now it has been 5 years man since we had our last, I did say our LAST. She just had happened to be looking over my shoulder when I was looking at it. She was like I sure miss having a baby. I'm like I wonder how bad it will hurt to cut it off,lol.
You'll have a good helper before you know it. Best thing that has ever happened to us was our children by far.

[carcrz]

Yup. He's a good little man. He's only a 1 1/2, so there's plenty of time to perfect his skills.

[powerstroke]

I need a tree guy in the Independence area. Please e-mail me at RoyalLawns@gmail.com

[Icemanku]

I go to Johnson County Building Materials in Merriam.

Just picked up 8 yards yesterday. There was a TON of mud in it, but the price is right!!!

[IN2MOWN]

Just picked up 8 yards yesterday. There was a TON of mud in it, but the price is right!!!

Mud? Why did you take it?

It's always been clean when I have gotten it there. You should of complained.

[Icemanku]

Mud? Why did you take it?

It's always been clean when I have gotten it there. You should of complained.

I guess I wasn't paying attention? That's my fault, all and all though it was good.

[THRIFTY]

Anyone know where I can get 3 yards of topsoil delivered to Shawnee???

[Icemanku]

If any of you are interested in referrals please let me know. I'm getting a lot of calls for jobs up north and was wanting referrals down south.

let me know.

[IN2MOWN]

Hey guys,

I know recently that some of you have been asking about advertising with the ziplock bags. I just got off the phone with the city of overland park and they told me that under no circumstances are companies to advertise like that. I spoke with the community planning dept from OP. They explained to me that in their eyes it is littering. All a homeowner has to do is call and complain, an inspector will be sent out and the company will be fined for littering and made to pick up what they have dropped off.

If anyone needs verification they can call 895-6270.

She also told me that more then likely all cities in Johnson County will give the same answer if called about it.

If any of you are planning on doing it please dont. Have some flyers printed up and walk door to door. Use door hangers. Find other ways to do it.

[carcrz]

I was just curious, so figured I'd ask. Thanks for checking into that IN2MOWN!

[THRIFTY]

Hey guys,

I know recently that some of you have been asking about advertising with the ziplock bags. I just got off the phone with the city of overland park and they told me that under no circumstances are companies to advertise like that. I spoke with the community planning dept from OP. They explained to me that in their eyes it is littering. All a homeowner has to do is call and complain, an inspector will be sent out and the company will be fined for littering and made to pick up what they have dropped off.

If anyone needs verification they can call 895-6270.

She also told me that more then likely all cities in Johnson County will give the same answer if called about it.

If any of you are planning on doing it please dont. Have some flyers printed up and walk door to door. Use door hangers. Find other ways to do it.

Although I have never advertised with this method, this year I saw that Ryan Lawn and Tree did. They had a flyer in a plastic bag full of bird seed

thrown out onto driveways. Its weird to see that a big name company that emphasizes so much on thier image would put thier name on the line

with this cheesy form of advertising...

[racer56]

Hey guys,

I know recently that some of you have been asking about advertising with the ziplock bags. I just got off the phone with the city of overland park and they told me that under no circumstances are companies to advertise like that. I spoke with the community planning dept from OP. They explained to me that in their eyes it is littering. All a homeowner has to do is call and complain, an inspector will be sent out and the company will be fined for littering and made to pick up what they have dropped off.

If anyone needs verification they can call 895-6270.

She also told me that more then likely all cities in Johnson County will give the same answer if called about it.

If any of you are planning on doing it please dont. Have some flyers printed up and walk door to door. Use door hangers. Find other ways to do it.


Why would you do this? You are on record for not likeing it but you didn't want to let it go at that? It depends on how you ask and IF you MAKE a BIG deal out of it of course. Maybe it is illegal to run a business like yours out of your house. Why don't you go to S.M. city hall and ask them. Maybe you should call the IRS and ask them if you are doing everything just the way they want. They will be glad to look for you. Man life in your world must suck to have that much negative thinking.

[IN2MOWN]

Although I have never advertised with this method, this year I saw that Ryan Lawn and Tree did. They had a flyer in a plastic bag full of bird seed

thrown out onto driveways. Its weird to see that a big name company that emphasizes so much on thier image would put thier name on the line

with this cheesy form of advertising...



I saw one the other day and I owe KCLandscaping an apology for arguing with him about a couple weeks ago.

I was shocked when I saw one from Ryan the other day. The way those guys made it sound when it was discussed was that they would not advertise that way.

I was at house doing a cleanup for an older lady and she saw one from Ryan on her driveway and immediately started to complain about people driving by throwing trash in her yard. Needless to say I opened it up and low and behold I find a small flyer with Ryans name on it.

Disappointing to say the least.

[IN2MOWN]

Why would you do this? You are on record for not likeing it but you didn't want to let it go at that? It depends on how you ask and IF you MAKE a BIG deal out of it of course. Maybe it is illegal to run a business like yours out of your house. Why don't you go to S.M. city hall and ask them. Maybe you should call the IRS and ask them if you are doing everything just the way they want. They will be glad to look for you. Man life in your world must suck to have that much negative thinking.



Settle down racer.

I did it because I wanted to know if it was legal or not. I dont think that its that big of a deal to know if someone if breaking the law or not.

It is not like I called them and started naming names.

Thank you for asking but in fact I did call the City of Shawnee when I moved here and spoke with them about permits and licenses to run a home based business within the city.

And yes, I have spoken with the IRS and my accountant and I abide by the rules of the federal government.

What is so wrong about doing things the right way? The way people here made it sound was that it was legal to do. I just wanted to know if it was or not...

What is wrong with that?

[Hamons]

I'm going to stick with in2mowing -- The idea of throwing trash in someones driveway and calling it advertising -- Well - You would deserve every customer you get.

[itsallaboutthestripes]

Wow I think he was pissed. I thought he was selling his stuff and going out of business. Its not like he called you out and said that advertising that way was wrong. The guy had an opinion that was different then yours so he is wrong?

[IN2MOWN]

Here's an idea racer.

Instead of calling people names and telling them their life sucks why don't you answer their questions.

Or is that to much to ask from a person like you?

[racer56]

Here's an idea racer.

Instead of calling people names and telling them their life sucks why don't you answer their questions.

Or is that to much to ask from a person like you?

I don't know what questions you are even talking about. For that matter man I really only answer to one person and she is sleeping right beside me,lol.

[carcrz]

I thought he was selling his stuff and going out of business?

Here ya go. Lighten up.

[IN2MOWN]

I don't know what questions you are even talking about. For that matter man I really only answer to one person and she is sleeping right beside me,lol.



BS you dont know what questions. Read the things I posted.

What did I do wrong? I didnt call anyone out. I didnt name names. I called and asked a question.

You just accused me of dragging the business down yet what I did, I did for the guys who were talking about advertising that way.

How is that wrong?

Because you advertise that way? And now you know its illegal in at least one city?

Sorry if I want things done right. I get crap tossed on my driveway once a week and Im tired of cleaning it up.

[racer56]

I did sell my stuff but that is it. I have a total shoulder replacement and came off a slick roof and crack a chunk of bone out of my humerous again. On the way down off the roof(felt like days,lol) I told myself that is it for me. With other things going I just didn't need it. I enjoy this business I like staying around it. I just thought the negative stuff here is just really no good. Say something to help great, say something to hate well not so good. Anyone that knows me will tell anyone that I help folks to a fault and just felt I guess until now the bag and rock WAS a great way to get a bunch of flyers out fast. Now it is brought to them and they HAD to go on record with a position on it. We sent out 50k total and not one single problem this year. Maybe I was out of line but some guy that needs some help to get going well it just got abit tougher for him now.
Owning a printing company it also makes good sense to stay involved with this industry as alot of folks use print for all kinds of things in this business of course. I feel we offer an advantage to all the other print shops around due to our years in this business ourselves. Seems that alone is reason enough to stay around. We also build alot of racks, gates, and such for the industry or at least did over the winters.
I'm sorry if me selling a few mowers and such yet still being here upsets anyone. If something like that upset me I think I would take a second and think about that and ask myself why would that upset me.

[IN2MOWN]

I did sell my stuff but that is it. I have a total shoulder replacement and came off a slick roof and crack a chunk of bone out of my humerous again. On the way down off the roof(felt like days,lol) I told myself that is it for me. With other things going I just didn't need it. I enjoy this business I like staying around it. I just thought the negative stuff here is just really no good. Say something to help great, say something to hate well not so good. Anyone that knows me will tell anyone that I help folks to a fault and just felt I guess until now the bag and rock WAS a great way to get a bunch of flyers out fast. Now it is brought to them and they HAD to go on record with a position on it. We sent out 50k total and not one single problem this year. Maybe I was out of line but some guy that needs some help to get going well it just got abit tougher for him now.
Owning a printing company it also makes good sense to stay involved with this industry as alot of folks use print for all kinds of things in this business of course. I feel we offer an advantage to all the other print shops around due to our years in this business ourselves. Seems that alone is reason enough to stay around. We also build alot of racks, gates, and such for the industry or at least did over the winters.
I'm sorry if me selling a few mowers and such yet still being here upsets anyone. If something like that upset me I think I would take a second and think about that and ask myself why would that upset me.

Nobody has any idea what you are talking about.

Why would it upset anyone that you post here?
Why would it upset anyone that you help others?

I bet you did not even read the other stuff I wrote. You read the first one, jumped on it and rode it all the way through your delusion about me.

You have my sympathy.

Way to completely avoid all responsibility for what you said.

Have a good weekend.

[carcrz]

It's not selling the mowers that is upsetting, it's your jumping all over him for posting the legal implications of throwing fliers out. It could have been said a WHOLE lot differently.

[racer56]

I guess the thing is most folks know I metioned it(flyers going out this way). We own a print shop and do alot of this type of marketing not just here but in other areas with no problems or I should say did. It will just end up costing folks that are paying to have the flyers done and put out more money. I felt like I was being and I was being called out. The subject was dead. It had been a good way for at least a small guy to get alot of flyers out fast cheap. Now that a public official has been put on the spot well that is gone.
We will not be doing this in this area any longer and will take the position that it has been ruined and tell folks not to do it as well.

edited, by jodi

[1MajorTom]

I removed a few posts from this thread. Come on guys, let's just move on about this.
Thanks alot.

[IN2MOWN]

I guess the thing is most folks know I metioned it(flyers going out this way). We own a print shop and do alot of this type of marketing not just here but in other areas with no problems or I should say did. It will just end up costing folks that are paying to have the flyers done and put out more money. I felt like I was being and I was being called out. The subject was dead. It had been a good way for at least a small guy to get alot of flyers out fast cheap. Now that a public official has been put on the spot well that is gone.
We will not be doing this in this area any longer and will take the position that it has been ruined and tell folks not to do it as well.

edited, by jodi




Racer, first of all my intent was not for you to lose business.

My intent was to find out the legalities of advertising that way. It was illegal to do LONG before I called Overland Park City Hall to ask them about it.

You are making it sound like it was ok to do before I called and then when I did call they passed a law saying it was illegal....:dizzy::dizzy:

Let me ask you this...

What if your print shop was approached by a company to do it. You made them the small flyers to go in the bags. Some homeowner complained about it, the company got fined and they came back to you asking you why you printed them up full well knowing it was illegal?


Another example is this:

Last summer I built a detached deck on the side of my house. Before I did it I called the city to see if I needed a permit to do it since it was free standing. they told me I did not.

Was that not the smart thing to do? What if I would of needed one and been working on it and a city inspector drives by and sees me and then shuts me down for no permit?

You took this personally but it had nothing to do with you or your shop. Heck you should be happy you know this now and if anything if someone approaches you for the little index card printings you can tell them its illegal and talk them into something bigger.

[ffemtmcd]

I removed a few posts from this thread. Come on guys, let's just move on about this.
Thanks alot.

Agreed! next.

[IN2MOWN]

Agreed! next.



Looks like good weather almost all of next week. Time to get out and hit it.

All my mowings are ready to go and I have some aerating set up also. Should be a busy week.

[carcrz]

That's what I did lawn renovations all this week. I had this one that was 9000 sq ft entirely on a 45* hill. I'm starting to know how you old guys feel after that one, with the creaking joints and all. :laugh:

[IN2MOWN]

That's what I did lawn renovations all this week. I had this one that was 9000 sq ft entirely on a 45* hill. I'm starting to know how you old guys feel after that one, with the creaking joints and all. :laugh:



Its tough work renovating. I would much rather be on a mower.

[carcrz]

I'd have been fine if it weren't for that hill. The others I did had no effect on me, but that hill ruined it for the rest of the day.

[robertsturf]

Thank you MajorTom my eyes were burning from the posts!! BTW we mowed 1 property this AM I have never been snowed out before LOL!!!

[paolaken]

Thank you MajorTom my eyes were burning from the posts!! BTW we mowed 1 property this AM I have never been snowed out before LOL!!!

i've mowed in the snow a bunch in the past. i'm going out now to mow a few. i love the look people give you when your mowing and its snowing.

[IN2MOWN]

Thank you MajorTom my eyes were burning from the posts!! BTW we mowed 1 property this AM I have never been snowed out before LOL!!!




Like I said earlier. Sorry if I offended anyone. I do not think I did anything wrong.

[mowman84]

I was out mowing today it was a good day for it once you get warmed up.

[gander54]

IcemanKu I was wondering if you still had the referalls for up north?

[cleancutccl]

I need to find someone with a large dump truck to haul off some debris, (dirt, rock, old mulch) from a jobsite in Mission Hills. Total haul will be between 8-12 tons, haven't seen the site in a while with the weather. Please pm me or call me at 785 393 2351 Garrett Thanks. We will be moving on this job on wednesday or Thursday

[Icemanku]

IcemanKu I was wondering if you still had the referalls for up north?

I have a guy in Rosedale that wants an estimate.

Would like to get referrals down south too!

[BAM BAM]

I have a quick question. Is a Kansas Lawn Care Business or LLC required to charge sales tax on services (like mowing, edging, trimming, cleanup, etc etc) to their customers.

[IN2MOWN]

I have a quick question. Is a Kansas Lawn Care Business or LLC required to charge sales tax on services (like mowing, edging, trimming, cleanup, etc etc) to their customers.




No.

The only time you charge sales tax is if you leave something at the property for example mulch, fert, seed, etc

[BAM BAM]

thank you for the reply.

[racer56]

Except at a commercial location of course. Any and all labor is taxed on commercial unless it is at the time of new construction. That is unless they have ery recently changed the laws. I would guess very few lco's really do this though. A few years ago a big lco got brought up on tax evassion charges for this very thing, so you might want to give Topeka a call and check for sure.

[IN2MOWN]

thank you for the reply.



http://www.ksrevenue.org/edu30.htm


Here is some more info about it. It clearly states what is taxable and what is not no matter who you are doing it for.

[carcrz]

Here's also a little blurp from that link - "... but the sales tax on these items should not be separately stated on the invoice." So basically you are stuck. It's already included in your bid, so charge accordingly.

[racer56]

I called the hot line in Topeka and they gave the number of a guy that heads the department that clarrifies things. He said this is the current positon on the tax deal and that they have been back and forth on it. He said in his mind as long as no product is left at a commercial jobsite then you SHOULD be ok. Comforting,lol he said alot of folks still do it the other way. He the bigger problem is contractors getting something tax free and not paying any taxes on it in selling it or using it.
He did say that labor is still taxed at a commercial location as it states in the link provided. The rulling was changed to come in line with the surrounding states (MO and such).
This is an outstanding day to say the least. We need more of these. Hard to be held up in the house with weather like this...

[carcrz]

Anyone interested in a lawn off of 78th Terr & Antioch? My mom moved back in town, but it's way too far for me to drive every week w/ a loaded trailer and nothing else on that side of town.

Some specs: Duplex property, but neighbor has also mentioned that she was ready to change providers. Each 1/2 of lawn is about 4 - 5,000 sq ft. There is a pretty good hill on the front that would probably need a string trimmer used on it, about a 20x8 area +/-.

I mowed & edged mom's side today for the first time this year. It looks like the neighbor is used to scalping the lawn due to all the visible dirt, but at least she has kept it neat and in order. I would highly recommend talking the neighbor into cutting at 3 1/2 - 4" in order to promote moisture retention.

[Turf Cutters]

carcrz, I am up in that area. I am interested. PM me. scott

[carcrz]

I replied to both John & Scott's PM's & let her know that I gave her info to each of you.

[Icemanku]

Anyone interested in a lawn off of 78th Terr & Antioch? My mom moved back in town, but it's way too far for me to drive every week w/ a loaded trailer and nothing else on that side of town.

Some specs: Duplex property, but neighbor has also mentioned that she was ready to change providers. Each 1/2 of lawn is about 4 - 5,000 sq ft. There is a pretty good hill on the front that would probably need a string trimmer used on it, about a 20x8 area +/-.

I mowed & edged mom's side today for the first time this year. It looks like the neighbor is used to scalping the lawn due to all the visible dirt, but at least she has kept it neat and in order. I would highly recommend talking the neighbor into cutting at 3 1/2 - 4" in order to promote moisture retention.

I'm getting a lot of customers out of my area, north of I-70, Raytown, and I need referrals in OP and southern JOCO so let me know if any of you have anything.

Also, if you have too much and turning people away I'll pay cash for seasonal contracts.

[IN2MOWN]

I'm getting a lot of customers out of my area, north of I-70, Raytown, and I need referrals in OP and southern JOCO so let me know if any of you have anything.

Also, if you have too much and turning people away I'll pay cash for seasonal contracts.


Why all the calls from out there? You are not advertising out there are you?

[Icemanku]

I'm advertising in the KC area, but for some reason that where I'm getting all the calls from

[IN2MOWN]

I'm advertising in the KC area, but for some reason that where I'm getting all the calls from



On my advertising I always put

"Serving Johnson County KS" just to make sure people understand where I go.

[Icemanku]

On my advertising I always put

"Serving Johnson County KS" just to make sure people understand where I go.

I don't know what else to do to get customers. I got 2 the other day while I was out, but I need about 10 more in the next 3 weeks or I'm in trouble.

I'll never put another flier on a door ever again. What a waste of time.

[carcrz]

I'll never put another flier on a door ever again. What a waste of time.

I disagree to an extent. I picked up a lot of accounts when I first started just that way. I also got into a few HOA's that way because of the flier I put on their door at their home.

I think the trick is persistence. If they see you over & over, who will they remember when they need someone?

[Icemanku]

I disagree to an extent. I picked up a lot of accounts when I first started just that way. I also got into a few HOA's that way because of the flier I put on their door at their home.

I think the trick is persistence. If they see you over & over, who will they remember when they need someone?

I rarely look at stuff on my door and I think the majority of people do the same thing.

I think getting out there and mowing, doing the best job you can do, at fair price is the best way.

I'm hounding my customers right now for free mows with referrals.

Wish me luck I guess....

[Mowgli]

What is Johnson County Building Materials address? And what is the tel.#?
Thanks, Troy

[IN2MOWN]

9108 West 57th Street

(913) 432-8092

Thats from something called Google...:waving:

[Mowgli]

9108 West 57th Street

(913) 432-8092

Thats from something called Google...:waving:


Thank you very much.
Troy

[racer56]

I rarely look at stuff on my door and I think the majority of people do the same thing.

I think getting out there and mowing, doing the best job you can do, at fair price is the best way.

I'm hounding my customers right now for free mows with referrals.

Wish me luck I guess....

How much do you have to spend for marketing to get these customers you need? Maybe I can help you out. Are you wanting just mowing or what else do you do? Res. or Comm.? You are getting the class up North due to the fact that EVERYONE is doing JoCo. and it is hard to find an lco to work up North. What % do you land that you talk to? How many calls are you getting a week?

[carcrz]

Anyone know where I could sell some Black Walnut logs? I've got quite a bit, but not sure where I can make some extra cash off it.

[F3Nelson]

Hey fellow KS and KC metro lawn mowing brethern!!!!

I just wanted to stop in and say hi, about 14 years in business, just laid off from running heavy equipment, thinking of starting a lawn company again.


Who wants to meet sometime/day for a lunch and Network!!! :)

[THRIFTY]

Hey fellow KS and KC metro lawn mowing brethern!!!!

I just wanted to stop in and say hi, about 14 years in business, just laid off from running heavy equipment, thinking of starting a lawn company again.


Who wants to meet sometime/day for a lunch and Network!!! :)

:waving: Im always down for lunch!!! I'm still waiting to meet up with IN2MOW for a good Shawnee LCO luncheon!

[F3Nelson]

I need some yards FAST!!

Ive got 14, but that wont exactly replace my last salary running heavy equipment 50 hours a week.

Ive bought out 3 LC's before, and would welcome the chance to buy any/all accounts anyone might be unloading

[F3Nelson]

Although I have never advertised with this method, this year I saw that Ryan Lawn and Tree did. They had a flyer in a plastic bag full of bird seed

thrown out onto driveways. Its weird to see that a big name company that emphasizes so much on thier image would put thier name on the line

with this cheesy form of advertising...


Yeah, I agree I saw and thought the very same thing, but Ive known Larry for a number of years, he's a good guy!

[carcrz]

I bet they subbed out the advertising w/o knowing exactly how it was going to be done; just knew it was door-to-door.

[IN2MOWN]

:waving: Im always down for lunch!!! I'm still waiting to meet up with IN2MOW for a good Shawnee LCO luncheon!




Get me on a rain day next week and we can meet down at Arizonas or Johnnies.

[F3Nelson]

Get me on a rain day next week and we can meet down at Arizonas or Johnnies.

Lets do Johnies, (they sponsor our VB team) Arizonas used to, but they stopped, besides, Johnies is better.

[IN2MOWN]

Lets do Johnies, (they sponsor our VB team) Arizonas used to, but they stopped, besides, Johnies is better.


Does not matter to me. They are both within 5 minutes of me. Johnnies is cool. Lets see how the first part of the week goes and maybe Thur or Fri...

[F3Nelson]

Does not matter to me. They are both within 5 minutes of me. Johnnies is cool. Lets see how the first part of the week goes and maybe Thur or Fri...


Looks like a LOT of rain to me! I hope not! I am at 75th and K7 so both work for me, just like Johnies better!!!

You buying the first round?

[IN2MOWN]

Looks like a LOT of rain to me! I hope not! I am at 75th and K7 so both work for me, just like Johnies better!!!

You buying the first round?



It's on me.

[F3Nelson]

It's on me.


Well then I am THERE! :clapping:

come on all you other shawnee, olathe, lenexa guys, lets hook up see what we can do :drinkup:

[F3Nelson]

Email me so I can get your email addy if ya dont mind.

ooops forgot to put in my email. Its F3Nelson@yahoo.com thanks

[Green Acres]

Looking to hire a landscape foreman if anyone knows of someone.

[Travel'n Trees]

Good luck, I have been trying too I have one wanting 100k with little experience. I had one guy who called me at 9:30 to explain why he didn't show up week number 3. Partied too much last night.

[paolaken]

Good luck, I have been trying too I have one wanting 100k with little experience. I had one guy who called me at 9:30 to explain why he didn't show up week number 3. Partied too much last night.

100k, i'm there for that. was he serious?

[rjgolfer]

Selling Wright Stander......36" 17 HP electric start .....19 hours and full warranty!! l bought from Curtis last fall but too small for the larger accounts we are getting. Today they are going for $5600 plus sales tax of approx $375Will sell mine for $5300. So could save someone almost $700! Also have catcher for sale. Can call me - 913-378-7300
RJ

[Green Acres]

What on average should a good foreman make?

[Icemanku]

Thought some of you KU fans might like this and pass it along! Just came out this morning!LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.gamedaytshirt.com/product.php5?ProductID=136)

[KCLandscape]

How did that third shirt just come out...it is from the GATOR BOWL FOR KU FOOTBALL...


correct me if I am wrong...

[mowman84]

Nice shirt

[Travel'n Trees]

I know one guy who oversees and sells, manages, collects makes up routes a 10 million dollar a year and hires the employees for 32K a year, I could see 30k to 60k.

[Scenery Lawn Care]

is anyone here from the kearney area? im from st joe but my house is on the market so im starting a business working in kearney, since ill be moving there, or liberty. I have a bid on a small wall job but need to find someone in this area to get some dirt from. any ideas? ill probally be picking it up, only need maybe 4-5 scoops. thanks in advance for any information.

[IN2MOWN]

Travel n Trees, I saw your truck today out in the Pavillions working on that new house. I do the house on the corner across the street from where you are working at.

[Travel'n Trees]

Yeah we are putting trees there and a 1000 ft wall in olathe. So I need to hurry up and finish that one/

[carcrz]

This rain has my schedule all screwed up. I still have a couple mulch jobs I need to get to, but I don't want to get 1/2 way through & have to stop. I hate red mulch, I didn't want to stain 2 sets of clothes red. Dave, expect a call as soon as this rain breaks for very long. The battery was dead on the trailer yesterday or I'd have picked up some mulch when I was done playing in the mud. Oh what fun that was!

[mowman84]

I was in the Pavillions (Estates) around 9:00 this morning also.

[KCLandscape]

I don't do the red stuff.....I don't care who it is, how much $, that stuff is unnatural and I will never touch it. Like you said about the clothes...

[carcrz]

I don't do the red stuff.....I don't care who it is, how much $, that stuff is unnatural and I will never touch it. Like you said about the clothes...

Whatever pays the bills. Can't change everyone's mind about the stuff, but I usually do everything possible to try.

[Travel'n Trees]

I don't like cedar, or white rock but you know I got cedar and will have white rock,

[IN2MOWN]

I was hoping to get out today but it looks like it will be too wet. Damn...

Time to get some estimates down and complete some things around the house.

[F3Nelson]

I was hoping to get out today but it looks like it will be too wet. Damn...

Time to get some estimates down and complete some things around the house.

Its gonna freaking rain again tonight!!!! ;)

[IN2MOWN]

Its gonna freaking rain again tonight!!!! ;)


I think Im grounded till Monday...probably to wet tomorrow and this weekend is packed.

Looks like Ill be skipping my golf tournament at Shawnee Greens on Monday also. Going to be to backed up.

[IN2MOWN]

Scratch that post. Im going to work. Its drying up quick between the sun and the wind.

[F3Nelson]

Yup, I got some in today, had to quit early wife is out of town!!!!

Next week should be better, enough of the rain for a minute or two *trucewhiteflag*

[Icemanku]

Are any of you picking new accounts up? I picking a couple a week, but I could always use more!

[IN2MOWN]

Are any of you picking new accounts up? I picking a couple a week, but I could always use more!



Ive picked up probably 10 new ones this year and the calls keep coming in. About 3-5 a day.

[carcrz]

So remember our conversation about mulch? I hate red mulch. Had to install some today even though I tried to convince him not to. Guess what, he doesn't like it either! Too late now. He was comparing it to another housing development that he thought had red mulch there and commented on how their red mulch really made the landscaping "pop". I drove by after he said something & it has Java Brown. I don't know what he was thinking when he told me he insisted on red. OOPS!

[THRIFTY]

The grass is growing out of control!

[IN2MOWN]

The grass is growing out of control!



And it will for another month or so. Just keep your blades sharp and your deck cleaned off.

Some of my customers I even move to every 5 days.

[paolaken]

i have a job up in shawnee, where can i get a couple yards of topsoil? it is around 435 and shawnee mission pkwy.

[IN2MOWN]

Johnson County Building Materials

9108 W 57th St
Shawnee, KS 66203
(913) 432-8092

[carcrz]

i have a job up in shawnee, where can i get a couple yards of topsoil? it is around 435 and shawnee mission pkwy.

Somewhere that sells dirt :laugh:

Couldn't help myself. sorry. :waving:

[paolaken]

thanks :clapping: i owe ya a :drinkup:

[ccondie]

iam so sick of the freaking rain that we KEEP getting here in kansas city. Talk about being behind this week. yards still have not dried out.

[carcrz]

I don't mind the rain, but when I'm trying to work w/ dirt it stinks. Makes a muddy mess everywhere.

[IN2MOWN]

It should be clear up until Thursday night. Lots of time to get stuff done.

[paolaken]

in a month we will be crying for rain. i hate the mud also. a big part of my work is new construction and what a muddy mess we make.

[IN2MOWN]

long days trying to get caught up

[Travel'n Trees]

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:I was driving down the road today and saw a sign for K.C. arborist in the owner of Suburban's front yard trying to get work.:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: I mean:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Icemanku]

I think I'm going to resort to a couple hundred yard signs. I need more business and flyers aren't the answer.

Your thoughts.

[carcrz]

IMO yard signs are usually tacky. They drive me nuts when I have to pull them out of lawns every week. It never fails that the same sign is there the very next week.

You might consider talking to some of your clients about putting a sign in the corner of their lawn for a week or two, especially on an landscape install or lawn renovation.

Word of mouth is also one of the best forms of advertising. If you can find a way to get your clients to promote you, reward them for it.

[ffemtmcd]

Don;t know if you've tried this - Offer $5 or $10 of next service for every referral you get from a customer.

[KCfireman]

here's an idea that i used for a couple of months. Go to local shopping centers; Ex. Hy-Vee or Price Chopper. Stores that have a big flow of people in there daily. Print out a bunch of flyers on bright paper. Post them on the stores bullentin board right by thier main entrance. I got about 15 call from people that saw my flyer. It worked well for me. You might want to give that a try.

[vaughnslawns]

unconfirmed tuchdown in belton!!!!

[carcrz]

there were 2 of them off 215th & Prospect in Belton. I'm really wishing my basement was completely finished & I hadn't done a little at a time. It made for a boring evening.

[Envision]

I have a former customer and friend, dropped due to being too far off my route, that needs lawn service. The previous guy hasn't showed up yet. Easy lawn, its weekly mowing, good payer, $30-35 per week. He claims it isn't out of hand yet but I find that hard to believe.

Anyways, IM me if you are interested.

[Mowgli]

The belt on my tiger cub broke today:angry::angry:
I was on my 8th lawns when it happened. :angry::angry:
I have to go finish it up after my kids soccer games to day.:cry::cry:

[ffemtmcd]

That sucks - always keep a spare!!!

[carcrz]

Yup. I always keep a spare in the toolbox. I also keep a pair of spark plugs, a quart of oil, & other misc stuff.

[bmost]

I have a former customer and friend, dropped due to being too far off my route, that needs lawn service. The previous guy hasn't showed up yet. Easy lawn, its weekly mowing, good payer, $30-35 per week. He claims it isn't out of hand yet but I find that hard to believe.

Anyways, IM me if you are interested.

I work in that area at least 2 days a week. Let me know if I can be of any help. Bmost@aol.com

[llllllll]

Who has the best prices on sod in KC ?...Thanks

[Green Acres]

I just looked at a small sub-division that needs mowing. I was wondering what on average people try to charge per hour to mow. I have an Exmark Lazer Z 60" and have not done much mowing lately mostly landscaping but was thinking on bidding on this property. It looks like it might take around 4 hours to mow and trim. Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I don't want to low ball anyone. Thanks

[IN2MOWN]

I just looked at a small sub-division that needs mowing. I was wondering what on average people try to charge per hour to mow. I have an Exmark Lazer Z 60" and have not done much mowing lately mostly landscaping but was thinking on bidding on this property. It looks like it might take around 4 hours to mow and trim. Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I don't want to low ball anyone. Thanks


I usually dont charge by the hour for mowing but I try to average around $70.00 per hour for things.

[llllllll]

Who has the best prices on sod in KC ?...Thanks

Any One ?...Thanks

[carcrz]

I'm usually @ $60 to 80 an hour depending on difficulty & wear & tear, but I always figure in more time than it will actually take me when I bid a project. Never know how long it will definitely take you until you have already started, so better safe than sorry.

[carcrz]

Any One ?...Thanks

The sod farms are all about the same price, but they will be your best price compared to contractors installing it. I usually sub it out, but I forget the name of the farm. It's one of them off 291 I think.

[llllllll]

The sod farms are all about the same price, but they will be your best price compared to contractors installing it. I usually sub it out, but I forget the name of the farm. It's one of them off 291 I think.

I am think about subbing it out..Who do you guys recomend ?....This job will be in the KCK area..

[Turf Cutters]

Mini skid track loader for sale. RamRod 1150 with 27hp Kawasaki engine. 4 years old and less than 20 hours. Comes with bucket, pallet forks, and auger motor with 6" and 18" augers. Runs great. 14,500 or best offer, thanks.

[IN2MOWN]

I am think about subbing it out..Who do you guys recomend ?....This job will be in the KCK area..

How much sod is it?

[IN2MOWN]

Can anyone get ab-3 around here?

[cod8825]

Hey just wanted to see how my prices for areation and seeding are in Belton, Lees Summit area I know that there are minute differences and wanted some expert opinions. Are prices are minimum for any lot $100 for seeding or $20 a 1000 sq ft for overseeding. Areation/detaching are mimimum $75 or $15 dollars a K and if they want both dethacting and areting $25 a K or $150 mimimum am I alright or am I too low.

That is the first question second is I don't need exact applications but what is your rough estimates for lawn Apps. mine is $35 service fee + anywhere from $2.70 to $4.00 a 1000 sq ft depending on type of app. We mainly work in Lees Summit

Thanks Matt

[Tom5301]

Shawnee Rock has ab-3

[Green Acres]

If you need prices on sod let me know we install alot of it.

[carcrz]

Anyone know of a good traffic attorney in Overland Park? Got pulled over Wednesday going 35 in a 20 mph school zone (normally 35). I didn't even see the sign, but somehow managed to see the bicycle cop w/ the laser on the sidewalk behind the tree. I just want to keep it from going on my record so my insurance stays low.

[IN2MOWN]

Anyone know of a good traffic attorney in Overland Park? Got pulled over Wednesday going 35 in a 20 mph school zone (normally 35). I didn't even see the sign, but somehow managed to see the bicycle cop w/ the laser on the sidewalk behind the tree. I just want to keep it from going on my record so my insurance stays low.


If you have not had any infractions in the last year go and talk to the prosecutor in OP. You will have to pay double but it will be downgraded to a non-moving violation. Its probably cheaper then hiring an attorney.

[ffemtmcd]

Actually - in a school zone, it's triple the fine plus court costs!!!!! Watch them school zones - they'll get ya.

[racer56]

Tough deal for public opinion for the industry in the KC area with the tree guy on the news. They said he lost in court against the HO. Man they laid down a shout bill to say the least. Hard to believe the floks even had that much money on hand to pay either way. That's a good chunk for anyone to just write a check without going to the bank and moving some oney around at least. Seems just about every time a contractor ends up in court with a HO they walk away with no money reguardless of right or wrong. They signed the ticket even and still didn't have to pay...
Anyone want any tree clean up work in Lawrence? We have 4 trees on the ground on our cul de sac alone and if it sits long enough I will have to do it :drinkup:

[Green Acres]

Does anyone do any paver work? I have to give a bid on landscaping in the early morning and there is about 2000 sq ft of red brick pavers. The base needs to be 6" of compacted AB-3 if anyone is interested give me a call 913-422-5111. Need it first thing in the morning. Thanks

[AmesLandscaping]

Hey hope everybody is having a great year so far, but I need your 2 cents on this...... Great Dane or wright standers, who has what and I need your opion and what is the normal gate/fence opening that everybody goes thru......... I am looking to buy a stander--32,34,??? for back yards and small homeowners yards instead of using my 757 jd with a 60 inch deck... need info quick , thanks gang, Alex

[ADVANCED LAWNCARE LLC.]

I have a wright stander and love it. I have never actually cut with a Great Dane, but I have played around on one. I would definitely buy another wright. As for the gates, I have a 36 inch walk behind, and have not had any problems getting into gated backyards. I would personally go with the 36 Wright stander.

[IN2MOWN]

Id go with the Wright also and a 36 will get you into 95% of gates these days.

[geodanker]

Hi KC -

Anyone know where I can get a grasscatcher for an older Bobcat 48" walk behind?

Any functional condition would do.

Thanks!

George Danker
913-579-1043

[robertsturf]

I had a 36" GD and now own a 36" Wright no comparison. The GD has 3 mini blades and no tip speed. Packs the deck with wet grass and doesn't turn worth a darn. Buy the Wright!!! We now own 3.

[mowman84]

I have a Wright and woulndt buy anything else.

[racer56]

Anyone here in the Kansas City area is welcome to put free listings on our new site. Due to not selling anything I think posting this is ok. Site was just up last night. www.kansascitygrapevine.com Take a look around and tell me how I can make it better for commercial business and general public. Thanks for taking a look. It's free!!!!

[kcdude]

Just found this site trying to find more info on a larger mower and need some recommendations. I have about 1/2acre area and am getting tired of mowing it with my 21". I need something that will decrease my mow time, be reliable, and take up minimal garage space. Lot is relatively flat, open, gentle curves, 3.5" cut, drains relatively well.

I would like to find a 36" width mower preferably a rider. I have ruled out most of the Lowes grade residential mowers just for long term reliability. Am I crazy for considering a Wright Stander 36"? I'm thinking about trying to wait for November but would consider one now if I can get a better deal that the MFG listed deal price....I'm also assuming a 36" walk behind is still going to be around $3500....not much more for the Stander.

Where can I get a good deal in the KC area?...been to Arnolds and they quote me current deal price with no additional discount. Can I get a better deal?

Any other suggestions for a stander/rider that is maybe a bit less overkill?

[carcrz]

For a 1/2 acre on a home owner's lawn, a wright stander is definitely overkill. If you are planning on using it commercially, then I think it would definitely be a wise decision. Do you have a gate that you need to get through? That would be my deciding factor on what size to get. You can usually find good deals on lightly used walk behind mowers that many people kept for a back-up mower and decided they no longer needed it (I have 2 - 48" Ferris w/b's for sale). I think this would be your best bet. With a sulky, you can move pretty quick & save a lot of money over a rider or Stander.

[racer56]

You could pay someone, maybe someone you meet here, to mow your lawn a long time for the money you will spend on a new commercial mower. They can do it while your doing other things you would rather do...

[kcdude]

Actually I'm an active gardener and like to do my own lawn work...I just don't like mowing/trimming for 2 hours. I figure that I would pay about $1000/yr for lawn service....so if I buy the mower then it is about a 4.5-5yr payoff and I would own the mower. If I buy new, it would have low hours with little maintenance needed....probably would do my own fluid changes....need to look in to this though...still less than a 6 year breakeven.

The yard is wide open, no fence....so larger than 36" is Ok and really don't mind walking versus a sulky with that large of a cut...it becomes more of a footprint issue in the garage...the stander is 3X5'....walkbehinds are larger. My other issue is on used units...most of these have tons of hours...I'd probably be buying something that needs more maintenance.

Above being said....still hard to justify. The only way I can really justify it is buying now, keeping it in great condition and passing to my boys in about 8 years to get them started on a teen mowing business....now that's a stretch....any other advice?

[kcdude]

Doing some reading on 36"WB...what do you all think about the JD G15 and Toro Model 30694 15 HP Kawasaki V-Twin T-Bar with 36" Fixed Deck? Reliability, cut, usability, fixed deck versus floating?

[ffemtmcd]

I have a set of Buyers trimmer rack for enclosed trailer if anyone is interested - will sell for $80. They are brand new (don't have the box), have instructions (right) and hardware. Let me know if interested. BTW - it's a 3 trimmer rack.

[racer56]

KC dude
I think you fogot that your time is worth something is it not? If it isn't let me know I have a list a mile long the wife wants me to do :laugh::laugh::laugh:. Let me say this I don't own a company in this industry anymore so I'm not trying to get you to use a service I have or something but maybe one of the new guys that need to get started would work with you if you helped them out by getting them some more work. Networking is the key to any business and some of the new guys could use some help getting started maybe. I would be careful on a used mower as most of them are a back up for a good reason. Not saying that some of them aren't a good deal just should look them over and ask questions...

www.kansascitygrapevine.com

[IN2MOWN]

Just found this site trying to find more info on a larger mower and need some recommendations. I have about 1/2acre area and am getting tired of mowing it with my 21". I need something that will decrease my mow time, be reliable, and take up minimal garage space. Lot is relatively flat, open, gentle curves, 3.5" cut, drains relatively well.

I would like to find a 36" width mower preferably a rider. I have ruled out most of the Lowes grade residential mowers just for long term reliability. Am I crazy for considering a Wright Stander 36"? I'm thinking about trying to wait for November but would consider one now if I can get a better deal that the MFG listed deal price....I'm also assuming a 36" walk behind is still going to be around $3500....not much more for the Stander.

Where can I get a good deal in the KC area?...been to Arnolds and they quote me current deal price with no additional discount. Can I get a better deal?

Any other suggestions for a stander/rider that is maybe a bit less overkill?



In answer to your question...a Stander would not be overkill for that size yard. Not at all. The best time to pay less is in the winter. Dealers are usually selling slightly used/demo models for hundred and even thousands less.

I like Arnolds but realistically you can find it cheaper somewhere else.

I would not reccomend a ZTR for a half acre lot. IMO that is overkill. A stander would be a good machine.

Good luck.

[kcdude]

KC dude
I think you fogot that your time is worth something is it not? If it isn't let me know I have a list a mile long the wife wants me to do :laugh::laugh::laugh:. Let me say this I don't own a company in this industry anymore so I'm not trying to get you to use a service I have or something but maybe one of the new guys that need to get started would work with you if you helped them out by getting them some more work. Networking is the key to any business and some of the new guys could use some help getting started maybe. I would be careful on a used mower as most of them are a back up for a good reason. Not saying that some of them aren't a good deal just should look them over and ask questions...

www.kansascitygrapevine.com

Thanks for the comments and I can appreciate the need for networking...I have definitely found a place for some of my other upcoming landscaping projects. It is interesting...I put out several feelers on new ones and get a generally cold response from the dealers...I get way more information here from the forum. I had hoped for some perspective on which dealers are better to work with on the purchase and service...I'm re-thinking my needs and am leaning toward a 36"WB. BTW, the time argument is only true if you consider this work....it is more of a hobby to me and I enjoy the work....to an extent that is.

[RECESSION PROOF MOWING]

With all the pre-season doom and gloom out there about gas prices and more homeowners relying on themselves to mow and folks letting their lawns go longer...I don't see it. My schedule six days a week is booked until end of October. I'm now in the enviable position of cherry-pick'in any "on call" projects that seep in with healthier than average bids. Just turned down a ball-bust'in lake contract because the effort and resources didn't justify the $1000 net profit per mow. Didn't think twice about letting it go. Business is good...really good. Gotta be some other guys out there knee-deep in the hoopla!!!

[IN2MOWN]

With all the pre-season doom and gloom out there about gas prices and more homeowners relying on themselves to mow and folks letting their lawns go longer...I don't see it. My schedule six days a week is booked until end of October. I'm now in the enviable position of cherry-pick'in any "on call" projects that seep in with healthier than average bids. Just turned down a ball-bust'in lake contract because the effort and resources didn't justify the $1000 net profit per mow. Didn't think twice about letting it go. Business is good...really good. Gotta be some other guys out there knee-deep in the hoopla!!!



6 days a week?

No thanks.

I have a life outside of work. Thanks.

[AmesLandscaping]

Hey guys I need a 32, 34, 36 inch walk behind asap..... No junk!!!!!! email me at stomperalex@hotmail.com ......... need in the next 7 days, thanks Alex

[RECESSION PROOF MOWING]

6 days a week?

No thanks.

I have a life outside of work. Thanks.

I'm at the stage in life where "having a life outside of work" is highly overrated. Making as much money as humanly possible is quite exhilerating. If there's one thing I've learned from this life, it's that when you're riding that wave of success, never get off it and ride to shore. You just might not find that wave again.

[IN2MOWN]

I'm at the stage in life where "having a life outside of work" is highly overrated. Making as much money as humanly possible is quite exhilerating. If there's one thing I've learned from this life, it's that when you're riding that wave of success, never get off it and ride to shore. You just might not find that wave again.


Sorry but my kids are not overrated to me.

[RECESSION PROOF MOWING]

Sorry but my kids are not overrated to me.

Already raised mine...he's now in medical school. I guess I did a good job, huh? Thus, I mentioned "my stage in life". You'll get to "my stage in life"...if you're lucky.

[IN2MOWN]

Already raised mine...he's now in medical school. I guess I did a good job, huh? Thus, I mentioned "my stage in life". You'll get to "my stage in life"...if you're lucky.


I dont know if you did a good job. What school they get into is not a litmus of a how good a parent raises a child. Fred Shipman, Marcel Petiot, Ishii Shiro, and Linda Hazzard also went to medical school.

If Im lucky Ill end up like you?

God I hope not.

Selling lowball mowing on Ebay and Craigslist to churches and city planners is not exactly something I want to me doing.

Sorry if I dont agree with you.

[RECESSION PROOF MOWING]

I dont know if you did a good job. What school they get into is not a litmus of a how good a parent raises a child. Fred Shipman, Marcel Petiot, Ishii Shiro, and Linda Hazzard also went to medical school.

If Im lucky Ill end up like you?

God I hope not.

Selling lowball mowing on Ebay and Craigslist to churches and city planners is not exactly something I want to me doing.

Sorry if I dont agree with you.

To each his own. How well-educated a child is qualifies, most certainly, as one of the litmus tests of life and your parenting skills. I didn't want to bore you with all the other superb areas of a successful child's upbringing, since you tend to dwell on negatives in many of your opinion pieces. Undercutting the competition on bidding is just plain smart business...sorry if you don't agree. That "lowball mowing" I sold on ebay and Craigslist filled my schedule in three weeks time six days a week. We should all be so fortunate! With a tweak here and tweak of the scheduling, those winning bids transform themselves into money-making routes. Maybe you need to take one of my courses in "Strategic Routing"? I will require you to take an entrance exam, though. I'm not so sure you'd fit in the class.

[IN2MOWN]

To each his own. How well-educated a child is qualifies, most certainly, as one of the litmus tests of life and your parenting skills. I didn't want to bore you with all the other superb areas of a successful child's upbringing, since you tend to dwell on negatives in many of your opinion pieces. Undercutting the competition on bidding is just plain smart business...sorry if you don't agree. That "lowball mowing" I sold on ebay and Craigslist filled my schedule in three weeks time six days a week. We should all be so fortunate! With a tweak here and tweak of the scheduling, those winning bids transform themselves into money-making routes. Maybe you need to take one of my courses in "Strategic Routing"? I will require you to take an entrance exam, though. I'm not so sure you'd fit in the class.


No thanks Aaron.

God I love "ignore" buttons.

[Hamons]

Does anyone here do or a have referral for someone who builds "wet-laid" brick retaining walls?

[warren piece]

Hey I am building a "Zen Garden" in my back yard. Does anyone know where I can buy some Bamboo Posts in the KC area. I do not want live Bamboo, I am looking for about 2 to 3 inch in diamater.

[ffemtmcd]

In2 - ya wanna lighten up a little - not siding with anyone in particular, but come on.

[AmesLandscaping]

Hello guys and gals, well I tried a great dane 52 inch stander the other day from smittys..... Where Do I start...... I am 6'1 and 320 pounds, I went to cut a large truck dealership in olathe, I also had my 757 deere 60 inch deck zero turn mower to do the try it before I but it deal demo.......... Well first off I noticed that the machine on nice flat ground is ok, but if the ground is the slightest bit bumpy, your strait lines turn into curves and you have to slow way down to get nice lines, And when it comes to stipping, my deere does a much better job...... I cut about 2 acres with it in open field conditions, and some up close building work..... as for getting close to tree's poles stuff like that it almost gets it to the point that you don't have to weed eat!!!!!!!:) But after spending an hour and half on it, my big ass was wore out!!!!!!!!! My hands felt like they where asleep and my feet also, and the spring loaded platform was bottoming out all the time ---- and on the way back to smittys, my back was starting to hurt....... So my 2 cents is for what I do..... 15 business lots and 5 homes, I think I will just stick with my 757 deere and my bx2200 kubota with a 60 and pick me up a 36 inch walk behind for back yards----------- And I just wanted to say A+ for the guys at Smittys for all there honest help...... Anybody want to sell a 36 inch walk behind mower :laugh: , thanks gang, Alex

[farmboy1285]

Thats to bad you didnt like the great dane I bought one from smittys last year and love it. I saved almost $2000 over a wright and it gets the job done for me. I will agree that the great danes are not as good on hill as the wrights but I know the limits of my machine and how to handle the slopes on the lawns I mow. Now that I have a little experience I have not come across a slope that I cannot safely mow with my great dane. Then again I am about 6' 1" 180 LBS so maybe the operators weight has some effect. Overall the only good thing that I can say about smittys is that they are always willing to let you test drive/demo a mower one. Just my 2 cents.

[IN2MOWN]

In2 - ya wanna lighten up a little - not siding with anyone in particular, but come on.



I dont lighten up when it comes to this guy. I know his practice and mowing acreage for $15-20 will hurt everyone around here.

Its guys like him that give us a bad name.

[OPLawns]

I don't get on here much anymore, but I HATE UNDERCUTTERS! One or two claims against your insurance or a trip to small claims court and you're through. Good luck until then:)

[paolaken]

i'm enjoying the rain now. keep it coming all summer.

[F3Nelson]

With all the pre-season doom and gloom out there about gas prices and more homeowners relying on themselves to mow and folks letting their lawns go longer...I don't see it. My schedule six days a week is booked until end of October. I'm now in the enviable position of cherry-pick'in any "on call" projects that seep in with healthier than average bids. Just turned down a ball-bust'in lake contract because the effort and resources didn't justify the $1000 net profit per mow. Didn't think twice about letting it go. Business is good...really good. Gotta be some other guys out there knee-deep in the hoopla!!!


Are you the guy that mows "all you want for 200 bucks?"

Is that price for all year? I dont understand your pricing structure

[F3Nelson]

Just found this site trying to find more info on a larger mower and need some recommendations. I have about 1/2acre area and am getting tired of mowing it with my 21". I need something that will decrease my mow time, be reliable, and take up minimal garage space. Lot is relatively flat, open, gentle curves, 3.5" cut, drains relatively well.

I would like to find a 36" width mower preferably a rider. I have ruled out most of the Lowes grade residential mowers just for long term reliability. Am I crazy for considering a Wright Stander 36"? I'm thinking about trying to wait for November but would consider one now if I can get a better deal that the MFG listed deal price....I'm also assuming a 36" walk behind is still going to be around $3500....not much more for the Stander.

Where can I get a good deal in the KC area?...been to Arnolds and they quote me current deal price with no additional discount. Can I get a better deal?

Any other suggestions for a stander/rider that is maybe a bit less overkill?


I just picked up a 36 Stander a few weeks ago, overall I love the machine, but I hate it on hills, its like my old scag Ztr's, going along fine, and then, wooopp

just decideds to let go of the hill.

[Adam3669]

Soo went out and tried to cut this morning, :hammerhead:

[jb mows]

Hi. I just found this site. My name is Jeremih I own JB'S Lawn & Landscaping LLC. I am mowing and landscaping part-time right now but I am trying grow my business to where it can support my family so I can do this full-time any advice would be helpful thanks JB.

[carcrz]

Just give it all you can. Quality is much better than quantity IMO. That's my .02

[itsallaboutthestripes]

I suggest going in to another business. Because it gets harder and harder every year with all of the newbies coming in and lowering the price. It is always easy in the spring wait until it gets hot and dry then you can separate the real lawn company's and the weekend warriors.

[farmboy1285]

I suggest going in to another business. Because it gets harder and harder every year with all of the newbies coming in and lowering the price. It is always easy in the spring wait until it gets hot and dry then you can separate the real lawn company's and the weekend warriors.

I know what you mean I swear I see a new lco every day. I cant even drive five minutes down the road to a subdivision without seeing 7 different mowing setups, everything from one mower on a tiny trailer to a bunch on one of those cab-over-engine landscape trucks, jammed with wrights. This is my seventh year and I think next year will be my last, after a while you just get tired of mowing.

[IN2MOWN]

I know what you mean I swear I see a new lco every day. I cant even drive five minutes down the road to a subdivision without seeing 7 different mowing setups, everything from one mower on a tiny trailer to a bunch on one of those cab-over-engine landscape trucks, jammed with wrights. This is my seventh year and I think next year will be my last, after a while you just get tired of mowing.


Tired of mowing?

Say it aint so!

Im a little sick of it but then I remember what it was like to work for someone else and I keep going.

I make more in one month then most people make in 5 months. If it comes with some headaches then so be it but its better then punching a time clock.

[farmboy1285]

Tired of mowing?

Say it aint so!

Im a little sick of it but then I remember what it was like to work for someone else and I keep going.

I make more in one month then most people make in 5 months. If it comes with some headaches then so be it but its better then punching a time clock.

I love to mow its just that after a while the competition starts to get old. Dont get me wrong competition is a good thing but with lowballing, and what not it kind of makes you want to quit. By the way you said on another fourm that you mow a yard on 117th St, which one Im just curious I drive down 117th no less than 4 times a day.

[F3Nelson]

I know what you mean I swear I see a new lco every day. I cant even drive five minutes down the road to a subdivision without seeing 7 different mowing setups, everything from one mower on a tiny trailer to a bunch on one of those cab-over-engine landscape trucks, jammed with wrights. This is my seventh year and I think next year will be my last, after a while you just get tired of mowing.

keep me in mind if you get out, I buy accounts every chance I can get.........

[THRIFTY]

T-Storms today, finally a day to rest...Hows everyones season been going??? Its been great for me! Its gonna be gettin hot before long!

[RECESSION PROOF MOWING]

T-Storms today, finally a day to rest...Hows everyones season been going??? Its been great for me! Its gonna be gettin hot before long!

You gotta love that rain some times!!! Perfect timing...I needed a day off in the worst way. I always keep one day of the week open just in case, and Tuesday this particular week is it. I'll just push my lawns to tomorrow. Sometimes, you just gotta take a week day off and get some errands tackled. Put some customer checks in the bank, run here and there (leisurely, to be sure), and lunch with the wife. You know, the normal stuff of life. I had checks in my wallet from 10 days ago!! This has been a good day.

[mowman84]

I only lost 1 hour today during lunch because of the rain. Then got back at it and got eveything done. I hate to get behind.

[AmesLandscaping]

I have set at home for 1 day cause of the rain, I have a regular job 7am to 3:30 pm, then have 24 accounts I work on after my normal job, so I am always busy, kinda weird watching tv shows when the actualy come on and not sunday nights at 9pm to get caught up on tv shows, but all my mowing jobs are caught up right now..... Our first mud run is this weekend so it will be hell on monday to start the cycle all over again with the rain...... But we all like rain right:clapping:

[farmboy1285]

So have you guys heard about that oil tank fire up north? I do this explorer thing with my local fire depertmant and the guys there just found out about it, then I heard about it on the radio. All I know is that there is a fire and I assume that it was struck by lighting. Now the "man" has yet another chance to raise our gas prices:dizzy:

[Adam3669]

Hows cuttin goin in this goop?

[THRIFTY]

Supposed to get some strong storms tonight!

[carcrz]

Hows cuttin goin in this goop?

not bad at all really. I was expecting it to start getting really thick, but for the most part I think the heat is drying it out enough to keep it bearable.

[carcrz]

Supposed to get some strong storms tonight!

I hope they're all passed through. I'm supposed to go on a motorcycle ride w/ my dad & brother-in-law to Edmond, Oklahoma today & come back on Monday. No way & I riding that far in the rain if I don't have to.

[Royalslover]

I'm laid up with gout and I need help real bad. Call me if you're interested. 913/710/3045.

[IN2MOWN]

Anyone here go out to Linwood? Its between DeSoto and Eudora and not that far from Lawrence. Just to far for me to drive. A lady called up and is looking for FT mowing, possible spraying and some landscape work.

Let me know and Ill PM the info.

[llllllll]

Anyone know of a Hydroseeder for sale around here ??? PM me with the info...Thanks

[paolaken]

looks like some bad storms tonight. hope everyone stays safe.

[wright5223]

I was wondering if anyone is selling any areators or accounts let me know what you have 913-789-8572

[farmboy1285]

looks like some bad storms tonight. hope everyone stays safe.

How was the weather down your way, My family has a farm in Linn county(hence the name farmboy1285) and I heard that alot of the rain was down that way. Last week we had hail so bad it broke a few windows in our house. I was at starlight for a concert last night and that got a little crazy. To bad I didnt get to see all of the doobie brothers:cry:.

[mott413]

John Deere G15 36 in.
15 HP Engine
Pro Slide XT

$1600 for Mower
$1850 for Mower and Proslide

[HazellLawnCare]

Does anyone have any accounts they would like to sell? I would like to pick up some additional work. Give me a call if you are fed up with the customers or gas prices. 660-886-8873

[paolaken]

How was the weather down your way, My family has a farm in Linn county(hence the name farmboy1285) and I heard that alot of the rain was down that way. Last week we had hail so bad it broke a few windows in our house. I was at starlight for a concert last night and that got a little crazy. To bad I didnt get to see all of the doobie brothers:cry:.

it's been better. linn county got it alittle worse than us last week. i wanted to go to that concert but couldn't. doobies get rained out? more storms going to happen today. maybe and hour or two away.

[farmboy1285]

it's been better. linn county got it alittle worse than us last week. i wanted to go to that concert but couldn't. doobies get rained out? more storms going to happen today. maybe and hour or two away.

Ya I hear more storms are coming that way. Me and my dad are building a garage and raised 3 walls today, 1 about 40 feet long and 2 about 30 feet long. We braced them pretty well but I will be so mad if one or any of those walls goes down. We busted our aces to get those done.:weightlifter:

[KCfireman]

Ya I hear more storms are coming that way. Me and my dad are building a garage and raised 3 walls today, 1 about 40 feet long and 2 about 30 feet long. We braced them pretty well but I will be so mad if one or any of those walls goes down. We busted our aces to get those done.:weightlifter:I help build those walls. That was some impressive nailing and tractor maneuvering.:laugh:

[KCfireman]

Their talking about a sh!t load of rain again this Thursday and Fri. I have to go pick up some river rock today at a store near the KS river. My dad is a UPS tractor trailer driver and said it was near record flood stage.

[carcrz]

Anyone want to bid a bi-weekly lawn across from Oak Park Mall? Too far for me to go to make it worth it for the size of the lawn. Trash, mow, trim, & blow. Probably in & out in 20.

[paolaken]

Whats everyones favorite places to eat? usually when we are in paola we just eat at home. but when we are elsewhere, we eat out. i hate fast food and chains. mom and pop places for me. when we are in shawnee we go to big bams burgers at nieman and johnson dr. in olathe or gardner it's austins. in Stanley it's jersey boys for a sloppy boy sandwich. anyone else?

[farmboy1285]

Whats everyones favorite places to eat? usually when we are in paola we just eat at home. but when we are elsewhere, we eat out. i hate fast food and chains. mom and pop places for me. when we are in shawnee we go to big bams burgers at nieman and johnson dr. in olathe or gardner it's austins. in Stanley it's jersey boys for a sloppy boy sandwich. anyone else?

I love chipotle!!!! nothing like a 2000 calorie burrito to keep you going!!!!

[IN2MOWN]

Whats everyones favorite places to eat? usually when we are in paola we just eat at home. but when we are elsewhere, we eat out. i hate fast food and chains. mom and pop places for me. when we are in shawnee we go to big bams burgers at nieman and johnson dr. in olathe or gardner it's austins. in Stanley it's jersey boys for a sloppy boy sandwich. anyone else?



Bams is good eating! Try the El Diego chicken sandwich. You wont be dissapointed.

[KsMowerman]

One of my crews takes care of Jersey boys so we often eat there, also like pizza shop, and freddy-t's in stanley!

[Travel'n Trees]

Springhill Km, or Emery's steak house in Paola.

[paolaken]

Springhill Km, or Emery's steak house in Paola.

yep, also the BBQ shack in paola. emery's is open again in their new location after the fire at the old place.

[KCfireman]

Haywards or Authur Bryants BBQ

[paolaken]

Bams is good eating! Try the El Diego chicken sandwich. You wont be dissapointed.

the ladder 49 is good also.

[wright5223]

Does anyone have on of these things for sale I've been looking for on if you have one or knows someone that does let me know! 913-789-8572 or 913-485-8405 Thanks

[br549oicu8]

I have seen them on Ebay at times. Kinda weird if you have never used one and very expensive new.

[mott413]

John Deere G15 36 in.
15 HP Engine
Pro Slide XT

$1600 for Mower
$1850 for Mower and Proslide

Anyone interested?

[ffemtmcd]

Anyone interested?

Wish I had the jack - looks like a good machine. How well does the pro slide work??

[mott413]

The Proslide works great.

[Travel'n Trees]

Also if in Blue Spring Na Na's Cocenia by the old bowling alley on 40, one the very best mexican's in town.

[paolaken]

Also if in Blue Spring Na Na's Cocenia by the old bowling alley on 40, one the very best mexican's in town.

i'll remember that.

[GFTC]

Anyone want a bi-weekly residential lawn in Prairie Village. Too far out for me.
Give me a call (816) 217-5962
Thanks,
Brandon

[robertsturf]

Brandon what part of PV is it. I go out there around 75th and Belinder.

[turfcobob]

Hi all you Kansas City folks. Bob from Turfco here. I would like to bring a Turfco T 3000 ride on applicator to Kansas City the for a show and tell. We are finally going to go public with the unit and KC is close for me. I plan to be there on Wed. July 16. Can I get a group of guys to come look at this machine? Enough to make it worth the gas to drive there from Lincoln, Nebraska. I would like to do it in the afternoon and I need help on location? If I can get half a dozen to come look and drive the unit I will bring it to KC.

If you want to see the unit let me know at
turfcobob@aol.com or phone 402-783-2028
and I need help with a location. Hopefully one with grass and hills can someone help me out with this?

[mott413]

John Deere G15 36 in.
15 HP Engine
Pro Slide XT

$1600 for Mower
$1850 for Mower and Proslide
Anyone want to make an offer?