Kansas City!!!!

[Hamons]

Who's from the Kansas City Metro area. Let's all sign - in and then we'll have a list to contact when we have a question or want to get the word out about something.

[DLS1]

I mow part-time in Lee's Summit.

[bruces]

Hamons,

How is the flier campaign going?

[Lombardi]

Near Lee's Summit.
Jeff, I responded to you about mulch acouple of weeks ago but didn't get a reply.

[SummitFarmer]

Here in Lees Summit. Lntrlawn@swbell.net

[Andrews Lawn]

Hey, I am from Johnson County here.

I mainly mow in Shawnee. I do lawn maintence and landscaping.

If anyone evers needs a sub-contractor, just give me a shout, i am always looking for work. You can chat with me on aol im, screen name is pacamaroz28

Thanks,

Andrews' Lawn and Landscape

[Rooster]

GREAT to see all the people from Kansas City.

Hamons we're neighbors, I'm off 80th and Metcalf.

Rick

[Hamons]

Bruce, Flyer have been minimally sucessful. I think I started a little tioo early. The last group go out this Thursday --- Sio I hope for the best turn out from these. Another 5,000 tot he same people who got them two weeks ago. C'mon warm weather!!!!!


Lombardi, Sorry about missing your earlier post. I get my Mulch from Suburban usually -- it's convenient. Cedar goes for $22.99. Not too bad for around here. I also sometimes go out to a place in Martin city called Mulch mart. I talked with a guy yesterday that would sell me Cedar for 16.00 a yard but it was for a semi load -- 100 yard min. I don't have that kind of space unfortunately -- his number is 913-541-1153

Rooster very close. remember we talked earlier -- you knew of my gramps, Virgil. From the Shawnee Legion Post 327 . You were honored at my wife's school as a veteran.

[Hamons]

Does anybody have any suggestions where an economical place to dump yard debris is.

Alot of times after doing various landscaping jobs I'll have alittle brush or dirt, or just basically junk-- but all organic compostable type of stuff. Last year I had a agreement with another landscaping company to dump at their site -- but that isn't going to work this year -- I have to find a new place.

What do you think -- any ideas? Deffenbaugh is too frickin expensive to even consider!

[bruces]

I use Missouri Organic Recycling at 435 & 12th street.

Prices seem reasonable but might not be too handy for you.

[Turf Cutters]

I am in Johnson County. We mow all over the metro area. I dump my waste at Suburban out in Martin City.

[Lombardi]

Has anybody here know of or done business with Kevin Gordon, DBA "A Growing Concern"? He does landscaping out of Lee's Summit.

[Randy J]

As long as you're in Martin City, you need to stop at my favorite eatery, Jack's Stack. Best BBQ in KC.

Randy

[Lombardi]

I've been there several times. Also the best Pit Beans in KC.

[Andrews Lawn]

Just wanted to ask what wholesale nursery you guys use around here in Kansas City. I am thinking about buying from Hermes Nursery but I don't know if they are the cheapest. Any input on this would be appreciated.

Also, if anyone knows the cheapest place around Johnson County, let me know. Hermes wants $25.00 for oak double shredded. That sounds a little high for a wholesale price.

Thanks.

[Lombardi]

I use Suburban, Colonial, and the Mulch Mart. Both of the nurseries offer a good contractors discount and the plants/trees are of good quality.

[accuratelawn]

Does anybody need a great helper in the K.C. area? My bother-in-law needs work. He worked with me two seasons. great
email me and I will get you in touch with him.

[KCLandscape]

Ever been to rosehill?
155 & prospect
They have lots of plant material
There is also Kokopelli out in lenexa
And hermes over by deffenbaugh
I have a deal worked out with a grower in kcks, I buy his annuals and I can dump for free!
We should all meet up at the Stack and get some BBQ

How about Suburbans new setup? Looks like a palace. Have a feeling they still have some kinks to work out.

[walker-talker]

Those of you from Kansas City, KS....I have a question.
I just came from a trailer service business and there was a guy telling me about some laws that I was not aware of, but maybe you can tell me if it's true.

For a commercial truck and trailer you HAVE to have:
1) Truck and trailer inspected by DOT
2) Carry fire extinguisher and triangles at all times
3) With tandem axles, BOTH have to have brakes
4) DOT tape around trailer and emergency break away cable

I was getting an estimate for a hitch and receiver mounted on a 2 ton truck. I was trying to sell me the wiring for the brake controller along with the brake controller. Not sure if he was just trying up sale everything, or if there was truth to his words. I have the DOT tape, brakes on 1 axle and emergency brake cable. He went on further to say that the DOT is cracking down on the weekend landscaper and they will shut you down in a heartbeat.

Any experience or knowledge? Mainly worried about having to get trucks and trailer inspected and having brakes on both axles.

Thanks
MATT

[danzig]

Hello Guys, Im out here in Shawnee. Im going to mow full time this year. I do lawn renovations, landscape design and install, sprinkler install and maint as well as chemical applications. Who sells the red mulch for the lowest price? If you need someone to brush hog a field or two give me a call. After we eat at the Martin City bbq can we go to the Stilwell Smokehouse sometime?

[Randy J]

never heard of the Stilwell Smokehouse, what's that?

Randy

[danzig]

A bbq place in Stilwell, about 185th and Metcalf

[Randy J]

Good as Smokestack/Jack's Stack?

Randy

[Lombardi]

Hey KC guys. Anyone know where I can rent a bed edger?
Thanks.

[bruces]

Blue Springs rental on 40 hwy told me they had them. I haven't actually gotten one, but called and they said they had them available.

Rate was $11 per hour w/ 2 hour min or $60 per day, I believe.

Are you interested in work in Raymore area?

I am getting a few calls out of the Lee's Summit paper from out there, and I really don't want to go out that way.

Let me know, if you are, I will pass on your name to any people from that direction that call me.

[Hamons]

Man -- I did all of your work for you. I needed one the other day and I called every place in town. United rental is the only place that has them -- both the one in Olathe and the one in Martin City. $22/hr - 2hr min.

It is the trench master -- I love that machine -- it works like a pro!

http://www.rpm-co.com/images/be.gif

[Lombardi]

Thanks for the info. Jeff. Is the trench master good for using when installing plastic edging?

[Hamons]

In my opinion nothing is good for putting down plastic edging -- I hate that stuff. But -- I suppose it would work. I have used it before when putting down steel edging -- but am not sure how much time it actually saves. Usually pretty easy to dig in with just a good sharp spade.

[Envision]

I am in the LS area, if you guys have some work over here that you don't want to do, float them my way and we can see what we can work out.

What dealers do you guys mostly work with in the area?

[Hamons]

I posted this in the genral trialer forum also -- but figured you guys would have a better feel on the local prices anyway.

I'm looking to buy a new trailer. I found a used one today and went and looked at it.

It is a 16' x 7' tandem axle trailer with 1/2 ton axles and electric brakes on one axle. It has 4' expanded metal sides.

He is asking $1000. Does this sound like a good price?

It is three years old. Tires have about 75% tread.

The only thing that worries me a little bit is the 1/2 ton axles. Wondering if this is enough for my general landscaping. I had 3,500 lb axles on my other trailer.

I suppose the most weight I probably ever put in it is 5 yards of mulch. I figure mulch weighs in at about 1000lbs /yd. So I wouldn't be able to carry that much mulch anymore.

Look forward to hearing your opinions.

[bruces]

Axles are too light. That seems almost unbelievable that a trailer that size has 1,000 lb rated axles.

If it is true, stay away from it.

I bought a new 6 1/2 X 18 w/ brakes for about $1600 w/ 7,000 lb axles last year about this time.

[KCLandscape]

Hey Bruce - Where did you pick up the trailer at? I'm going to be in the market soon

[bruces]

Truck, Trailer & Hitch Center in Independence on 291.

They also have a location in Grandview around 71 & Blue Ridge or so - just south of the old Builders Square.

[Lombardi]

Jeff, as the others said, the axles are way too small. If you do landscaping you will be hauling a lot more than mulch. Just one pallet of Pavestone would be too much on that trailer. You will also be hauling dirt, gravel, river rock, natural rock, etc. I got mine at Truck Trailer Hitch in Grandview. Huge selection and the best price in KC.

[Hamons]

Thanks for the advice on the trailer -- We were all thinking essentially the same thing. I decided I would offer the guy $800 and then swap in 3.500# axles -- but he didn't want to deal so I let it go. I'll still be looking for a trailer --- I'll probably give the guys in Grandview a holler.

[Lombardi]

Jeff, if you are looking for a used one call me. I have a 83"X18', tandem axle, electric brakes, Bulldog hitch, w/ dropgate.
816-935-3170.

[Hip2u77]

Originally posted by walker-talker
Those of you from Kansas City, KS....I have a question.
I just came from a trailer service business and there was a guy telling me about some laws that I was not aware of, but maybe you can tell me if it's true.

For a commercial truck and trailer you HAVE to have:
1) Truck and trailer inspected by DOT
2) Carry fire extinguisher and triangles at all times
3) With tandem axles, BOTH have to have brakes
4) DOT tape around trailer and emergency break away cable




I'm afraid it is true. We got pulled over Tuesday morning by the "KCPD Commercial Vehical Enforcement Division" for a low tire. He did a through check of us and ended up putting us out of service on the spot.

We were a block away from Croft trailer on Truman road so he let us drive there to get it fixed. If we were caught driving it anywhere else they'd impound the vehical and could get a $500 fine and up to a year in jail. Croft couldn't't get to it for like a week or two so we had it towed back to the lot to "fix" everything ourselves.

Here's the list/ticket we got.

1. Not having brakes on both axles
2. Not having a breakaway device.
3. Not having 3 red clearance lights on the back of our trailer.
4. Not having fire extinguisher mounted. (we had two behind seat of our truck. Just not mounted)
5. Not having 3 reflective triangles.
6. Not having "annual trailer inspection card"
7-?? Various other small ones for not paying attention..IE Headlight out, clearance light out, etc.

He only gave one ticket. It grouped all of them together.

Here's what he did in the inspection so you'll know what to check/fix.

He checks for all the above and he did jack up the trailer to check brake operation. I believe he was either checking dust caps to make sure they were tight, or was feeling for heat to see if the brakes worked. He checked all lights of both truck and trailer. IE tail, stop, turns, clearance , headlights. Checked horn. Has you turn wheel hard back and forth with motor off to check front end play. Checked for class E license (I know..a given that he'd check for it) along with insurance/registration. I didn't watch the whole ordeal but I'd assume he checked the tires out for wear and **** like that also.

We bought 2 complete backing plates, drums, the breakaway device w/ battery/charger and box to mount them, 100ft spool of trailer wire, 30feet of 12ga wire for the brakes, and the 3 clearance light bar for $275 at Croft. $245 without the 100ft spool or clearance light. This was for a 10" brake setup. We got one trailer done and have to do the other now.

If your even remotely mechanically inclined you can install everything yourself. It was pretty easy. Adjusting was a little time consuming to get all 4 working equal. NOTE: We replaced the shoes on the old brakes, then realized the magnets were worn. Cost $85 for magnets and shoes. It's only $100/pair for the whole backing plates. Lesson learned.

Anyway, Hope this info will help someone.

Hip2u

PS This was a 18ft Texas Brag trailer.

[walker-talker]

Thanks for the "heads up" Hip2u77!!

MATT

[allseasonslawncare]

Hello ALL!

I am in the KC area... well, actually WAY South. I hail from just outside Joplin, MO and am looking to get connected to some of my area colleagues. I am 2 hours south of KC and would be willing to discuss any proposals anyone might have... sub-contracting, regional services, etc. If anyone has commercial or residential jobs with locations south of KC that i could be of help with... let me know.

Also, the DOT questions that were asked/answered... were those local to the KC metro area... or are those state regs?? I hadn't heard of some of those in my area... but i definitely don't wanna get caught with my pants down!!

Thanks for any information you can provide... it is very much appreciated!!

[Hamons]

Hello Everybody,

How are all the Kansas people doing this week. Man, we need this rain don't we?

I was wondering if anybody would like to split a bottle of Primo maxx with me. I want to try this out on a few lawns this year -- but I do not need a whole gallon -- which is their smallest amount they sell.

A gallon costs $433 +tax at Lesco --this seems to be the same everywhere. A gallon will treat about 4 acres at it's max rate of .75oz/m.

All I really need is one quart. So if we could find 4 people to split the costs then each of us would only spend $115.00 or so.

Anybody interested?

[chuckwk]

After renting the trench master a couple of times I went ahead and bought one... good investment. Handy machine...

Also,... My step-brother, who used to be my main crew foreman is looking for work. He is fully capable of handling every aspect of lawn maint., landscape install, 'light' hardscapes, (I did not do many big landscape / hardscapes)... , hydro-seeding, managing a crew, just about any piece of equipment you can imagine, ....

If your in the KC area let me know and I will arrange contact.

...

Also, I used to work the Raymore area... I had quite a bit of residential success.. 5 years ago there were not many commercial lots but I have noticed new comm. development recently... My best account was a residential off 'J' hwy, and Lucy Webb... 35 minutes for a crew to mow, blow, and trim.... $200 per cut, weekly no matter the growing conditions, twice weekly in spring growing season. Paid on time, every time... The home owner was more than glad to pay such an over-bid just to insure the job would get done.

[benb0808]

From KC,

I just started mowing have about 15 residential account and am looking for more. currently using a 21" but hope to get a 36" next year.

Ben

[Envision]

If any of you guys mow in Olathe, email me because I have a friend whose parents are needing an estimate on lawnmowing. That is on the other side of town for me, so if you are looking to land another account let me know.

Thanks!!

[HazellLawnCare]

I hope to be moving my business to the Blue Springs, Independence, Lees Summit area next spring. Do any of you have any work in those areas you are wanting to get rid of or even possibly sell contracts on.

[Roselawn]

Hi to all I am new to this local forum (Western Shawnee)... but anyway in response to Hamon's ? about where to dump yard debris and waste...I know a reputable company that takes it and grinds it...and colors it for mulch... decent prices on dumping AND GOOD QUALITY and PRICES on mulch they grind they just expanded into this at the beginning of the year..... I-635 and Kansas Ave. area. Let me know if you want more info as they are very busy starting up the operation and have many large tree companies dumping there already and large landscape cos. taking out the mulch.

[Hamons]

Are you talking about Marrs?

[Roselawn]

No it is a company called C.S. Carey Co.

[kobisk]

Hey just wanted to drop a line to the local KC guys out there.

Not really in business here, but maybe soon as current job may be going to India. Just wanted to let you guys know that I may be able to provide some assistance with irrigation/pond questions. My Father-in-Law, and brother-in-law do ponds and irrigation in Abilene, KS about 21/4 hrs west of here. I have been working with them on weekends for approx 2 years. Also use to mow from JR high through college. I was glad to see some posts about where to take yard waste, because I hadn't found any place yet. Luckily our neighbor let's us dump in her back yard for free.

Here's some contact info:

Kris Kobiskie
kriskobiskie@yahoo.com
816-501-6164 W 10-7
816-833-4535 H ?

[Greatdane522003]

I have about 50 lawns in northeast JoCo Looking for someone to talk to about mowing!!!! If anyone knows were I could get a good used 36' wright stander let me know my e-mail is greatdane522003@yahoo.com thanks!!!!:blob2:

[benb0808]

Solo in KC. Bout 75th and Nall. I'm the guy in the shitty little mazda B2200 with 2 21" craftsman in the back and two bright geen magnets on the side. Hopefully not for long. Been doin 50-60 a week tryin to stash some cash to reinvest. Just started to notice the summer growing pattern this week. A few accts. wanted to wait a few more days for service. If anyone needs any extra help or has a few small accts. they don;t want to mess with let me know. If you see me out there, HOLLA!

Ben Baumgart
B2 Lawn Co.
benb0808@hotmail.com
816-516-5266

[Dwl9113]

i know this has been stated before but if anyone is solo in the OP/LX/Olathe area and needs another man or anyone that needs another man hit me up here or aim me because i am looking fo rwork. thanks.

Dan

[bottlefed89]

Hey guys, I am in Lee's Summit also, maybe you've seen me I've got a big red crewcab f350, do a lot of work in the lakewood area. My mowings really slowing down, are yours?? Just wanted to say hey to everyone because I just saw this thread. If anyone has any tree work they need done, or want to sub out let me know. I have several years experience, and I am insured for tree work(you thought LCO ins. was high). Anyway, like everyone used to say, once mowing slows way down we need to meet up so we can put faces with these names.
thanks

Greg Jensen
Jensen Service Co.
(816) 807-8259
bottlefed89@hotmail.com

[robertsturf]

So far my mowing has not slowed down a bit. Thank goodness for sprinkler systems and rain.

[Hamons]

Do you guys not do annual contracts?

[bottlefed89]

I do some, but several of my properties are already not needing cut weekly. Even those I have contracted want to pay by the cut... Guess maybe I did that wrong.

[klbjoc]

How do you calculate you annual contracts so that they are fair for you and the customer?

[robertsturf]

I have some that are monthly contracts paid per mow and some that are on a level payment plan. The ones on level payment plans are calculated by previous years services averaged out from Mar to Dec.

[Hamons]

I ONLY MOW FOR FULL-SERVICE ACCOUNTS.I figure all of my full service accounts on 30 cuts per season.

owing makes me very little money -- barel;y pays for itself. BUT -- it does get me many dcustomers who would look lesewhere if I did not offer mowing.

To figure monthly price I decide onr pe/rcut price and times that by 30. I have found 30 is the average number of cuts in KC per season. Decide how much i will need to cahrge to trim shrubs 4 or 5 times throughout the year. Figure out cost for doing weed control and fertilizer applications. All of this is then divide by 9 mos. and then charged flat rate each month.

In the spring I am often mowing every 4 days -- but in the summer I may be mowing every 10 -1 5. I mow based on the grass.

I then offer a prepay discount which many custoemrs take me up on. I usually give 4%.

So - I ahve a customer who has her lawn mowed, shrubs trimmed and fertilizer and weed control done for $230/mo. So with her prepay discount she paid me for $1988.00. She never worries about her lawna gain until Next spring when she will write me a lishtly larger check.

[Hamons]

On a seperate note -- sdoes anyone have any reccomendations of an accountant to use inthe area. I am looking to remove some work form my plate and was thinkingabout paying someone to do the books.

[Hamons]

ALSO: anybody have a 3/4 ton p/u they are selling?

[DLS1]

Originally posted by Hamons
I ONLY MOW FOR FULL-SERVICE ACCOUNTS.I figure all of my full service accounts on 30 cuts per season.

owing makes me very little money --


What is your average chrage for owing? Hey teacher how could you be in in Overland park and not making much on owing. Not sure why you make a lot on fertilization porgram and not owing?

I forgot to spell check. :D :D :D

[Hamons]

Average charge for mowing? $35 and go up form there.

Don't make money mowing because there are so many people giving away there time. One of my accounts that I charge $55/mow for was jsut appraoched alst week by two companys driving around saying they would mow it for $30. It is a 22,000 ft yard with about 600 feet of bed edging and another 300 feet of sidewalk edging. Geez -- he would be there atleast an hour and he is only going to charge $30?

Applications profit margin is musch higher. But that is because it takes specialized knowledge -- and lots of it --- to do it right.

On contrast -- a 10k property would be charged about $500/year fro fertilizer and weed control. I would be on there propert a total of about 2 houirs for the whole year. A 10 k property mowing owuld get me about $1200.00 but I would be on there property about 20 hours. PLUS I'm driving a $12,000 mower and using another $1000 in equipment the entire time I am there.


biut hey -- i'm just apoor schlep who works my ass off - so i may be all wrong. i don't want to sound like i have all the answers


Similar for landscaping. Myt labor rate is much higher for landscaping jobs then mowing. But that is only once you start foing large $5k plus jobs.

Now -- these numbers are NOT real world exactly -- but they are in the ballpark and they do show the dramatic difference in profit form applications.

Of couse -- you CAN make good money mowing. And it is easy work. but -- it's not how I have formed my business. With mowing it seems the key is lots of crews. Money on volume. With me wanting to stay smaller. One crew for landscaping and anothe for mowing and me doing applikcations --- it works for me.

[bottlefed89]

Hey guys, I'm working a big bid that will ned to be in with in a month. Looking for someone who might want to be subbed the fert. portion. It's a 45 unit community in north kc, decent amount of work. Mowing looks bad there now, but boy is it green, I have no fert experience or liscense, but want the account. Send me an email if you're interested.
thanks
greg
bottlefed89@hotmail.com

[Hamons]

I need to find a good welder in the johnson county area that could help with a repair on an enclsed trailer -- anybody have ay suggestions?

[PLM-1]

I'm from Lawrence. Looking at buying an LCO's collection of accounts in Lee's Summit. If anybody needs help out west let me know!

AllSeasons Lawn...i've gotta bone to pick with you...i'll PM you!

[ground_solutions]

Hello, I am just starting a business in the Northland area willing to go south of the River. We are specializing in Hydroseed, small landscaping, bobcat', and Erosion Control. Please feel free to contact if you know anyone who needs any of this work done. I don't want to take anyone's business just get mine started.

Thanks,

Ground Solutions
816-810-8336
816-935-6887

[HazellLawnCare]

Have any of you ever put out doorhangers? Just wondering what the response rate was.

[Hamons]

I use door hangers in Johnson County, KS

I usually get around 5% response. I had my doorhangers professionally designed last year -- seemed to really help my response rate.

[Popper357]

Anyone who has been landscaping in KC know how the market is performing? General points about competition(large companies that saturate ads), specific booming services(butterfly gardens, irrigation, patios and etc?) preferred suppliers (any area) and views into the future? I am starting landscaping next year instead of mowing (getting out) and plan on doing things I know how to do like turf reno's in the spring but I'd like to get larger jobs ASAP. I have a good idea about the mowing market and geographic/ demographic trends but any trends and tips would benefit me. I'll need to develop relationships with dealers, specialists (irrigation and other advanced trades) and educational resources. Anyone have tips? Thanks!
Ryan

[PLM-1]

Hey Popper...sell your business?

[Popper357]

Hi Joplin! No net yet... I am starting on Tuesday to get it organized because I wanted to focus on friends and family during December. I had a nice December and went dirt bike riding often, going tommorow to 470.

How about you? Did you have a good holiday and get time to spend with family? I worked so much during the year that I left out too much of my friends and family so this had been nice. Did you find a deal that worked out? I know another guy who made comments about selling but he's always working with his church and I haven't tried to call him. I've been taking classes for landscape design and making plans for swiching to landscaping. It's going to be tough and I'm nervous but I know that I'll thank myself once I get going. Keep in touch...
Ryan

[PLM-1]

Pop, i lost your email address so here's mine again precisionlawnmanagement@hotmail.com . if you can't find anyone to buy it let me know maybe we can work something out. let me know about that other guy that may want to sell. I am interested! Glad to hear your holidays were good we went well too...we will stay in touch!

[captaingreen]

I was reading earlier in this post and someone mentioned a problem with DOT reguarding their tandem. I just upgraded to a 16' tandem with 3500 lb. axles on it. I have brakes on one axle. I talked to MO highway patrol and the guy said I was legal pulling it with a 1/2 ton because my GVWR was under the limit to require a CDL and other pita's that come along with it. I do have a class E license. I've heard so many conflicting reports on this, am I legal with my current set up?

[Popper357]

Anyone do a lot of lawn renovations? I'm wondering how much guys charge so I charge the same. I usually charge $99 to aerate a 8000ft sq lawn and go up to $125 for 10k. Over seed and fert I'm about $250. I haven't done any verticuts yet and wonder who does this and how much I can get around here? Any help?

I charge about $300 to do a power rake on 8K lawns. Tough work

[jimslawns]

Capt Green,

You are required to have a class E "chauffers" license while operating your truck/trailer for commerial purposes. The GVW of your truck is probably around 6200 lbs so as you do not exceed it you will not be in violation in MO. The GVW is a combonation of all weight trailer + truck and cargo. You need not have a CDL for a combonation trailer unless the trailer is rated with a GVW greater than 10000 lbs. Hope it helps.
The only time they will check you around this area is at the dump, also make sure you have the proper lights and reflective tape, fire extingisher, and triangles in the truck, they'll ding you for that too ;)

call me if you have any questions.

jim

[roushjh]

Hey guys,

I'm just starting out, and would appreciate any help with the lawn care business. I've purchased everything I need from an individual that is quitting his business to go manage for another company. All the equipment is less than 1 year old. I'll have a 5x10 enclosed trailer, 36 Exmark WB, 21 Toro, Echo trimmers/edgers/blowers. I'm still working on name and logo, but plan to have vinyl lettering installed on the trailer. Any suggestions for graphics design/install?

I plan on going after 10-15 clients this year, and offering a professional-looking, high quality, very dependable service in the residential/small commercial market around Olathe/Lenexa/Overland Park. I just want to mow/trim/edge, for the most part. I still work full-time (nights) for now.

I don't want to be a low-baller/scrub, and would appreciate any input on gaining clients, servicing contracts, pricing, etc, in our market. I'm planning on targeting homes in the 150K to 350K market.

Thanks in advance,

John

[Hamons]

I highly7 suggest you get ahold of my graphics guy for the ebst logo and artwork you can buy.

His name is Shawn Honea (shawn@IMDESIGNGROUP.COM)

Look for my posts in Elements of business forum to see lots of his work.

email me at hamonslndscp@sbcglobal.net if you hav eany questions

[cleancutccl]

Just wondering what the rate is per 1000 in the kc area for commercial properties. Based in Lawrence and just having a hard time getting into the commercial market, wondering if my prices are too high.

[KCLandscape]

What are your prices?
What insurance do you have??

[cleancutccl]

I use 3 per 1000, and carry 1 million in liability.

[Popper357]

I talked with a guy who would send out twenty or so clients a year that he was interested in a letter saying that he was interested and would like to be included in any bidding process for the maintenance. He netted some nice large commercial stuff this way. It's an idea that I haven't tried because I've been so busy with residents. I have a couple large commercials that are my best clients by far. One called off an ad and another was a referal from a mower repair place. It's been very nice to have a couple large ones.

[packerbacker]

Anyone know where i can get a tailgate for a 97 F-250????

[PLM-1]

Anyone know where i can get a tailgate for a 97 F-250????

Do you want a nice one????

[captaingreen]

Anyone know where i can get a tailgate for a 97 F-250????
Try an auto salvage yard

[packerbacker]

Do you want a nice one????




It doesnt have to be brand new but its gotta work!

[packerbacker]

Try an auto salvage yard




Ive tried over 30 of them and they all told me i would never find one in a salvage yard. Tailgates on Fords are the first thing to leave a junk yard.

[PLM-1]

It doesnt have to be brand new but its gotta work!

Well...you prolly don't want this one. Me parent's neighbor has a 98 F250 that he pulls his fifth-wheel with. He forgot to put his tailgate down and sorta backed into it pretty good. I really don't think it works!

[packerbacker]

Well...you prolly don't want this one. Me parent's neighbor has a 98 F250 that he pulls his fifth-wheel with. He forgot to put his tailgate down and sorta backed into it pretty good. I really don't think it works!




Can you get a pic of it? Im not picky and i meant it just has to stay up for it to work lol

[PLM-1]

I will see what I can do. I saw it but don't remember too much about it...

[packerbacker]

I appreciate it! Let me know.

[Popper357]

Attention anyone who'd like to purchase some mowing clients in the Raytown, Lee's Summit areas. I am looking for buyers to sell my accounts to. I have a full time business with loyal customers. Looking to sell all mowing accounts and separate customers for leaves, snow, applications, gutter cleaning etc. All my maintenance customer will be directed to you throughout my transfer to landscaping. All maintenace work is going to be way more than two people can handle in a week so you can pick and choose and get your price. Must sell! Two large accounts average $180 mow each and make for an easy profitable Friday in Lee's Summit. Full support for introductions, non compete, payment plan and continued assistance. Comes with software and detailed account records. Everything you need to be profiable and loving it! Equipment is extra but available.

I grossed 50k last year, mowing weekly and working four days a week with helper going at least eight hours a day in the spring and summer, I went very easy in the fall and could have made ten grand more if I focused (instead I was into other things, like dirt bikes, woman and my house projects). Customer are in a very small radious and very profitable. Almost 8K revenue every spring month, asking 8k for them all. Equipment is also for sale, all 2004 Encore hydro walks, 48 and 32 w two bags, plates and sulkys. Mowing trailer with water, trimmer and basket accessories. All Redmax 2 cycles, 8000, strato trimmer, older trimmer, hand blower, bush trimmers, blade grinder and lots of accessories. Call to veiw equipment or talk about the accounts.
Ryan Odneal, 816-679-3296

[Livinglarge]

Delelted. Placed in wrong thread.

[sdthomas58]

Hey all, I am north of the river and have been mowing for three years now and have decided to step it up a little bit and get some commercial accounts....I look forward to hearing from you all in the future..............................

Steven
Thomas Lawn Care

[Mowgli]

I am from Lenexa. I try to go full time this year.
I mow,aerate,fall/spring cleanup and more.
I also do painting.
Troy

[jjvvdd]

I'm just starting out this spring! I need to get an application license, clients, business license, trailer, z turn, 36" and more clients. I'm all over shawnee, lenexa, op, olathe. I know just enough to be dangerous right now. I've been reading post in here for a couple weeks and have learned a lot already.
Good to hear from everybody.
Dodson Lawncare

1998 F-150
Honda 21"
Echo 24" hedge trimmers
Echo chain saw
Toro dual trimmer/edger
Weed-Eater Blower

"Thank God for Lowes and Home Depot supplying poor guys like me with credit and equipment. lmfao " :D

[jjvvdd]

I guess I'm not going to mess with Fertilizer right now. I don't have to be full service overnight. I'll work on getting my first account here then conquer the world. I want to be considered professional. I think being professional is being able to say no also. I have never sprayed and would die if I caused an animal or kid to be sick because I mixed something wrong or sprayed wrong.
Jeff
Dodson Lawncare

[Popper357]

I know a good referal for your fert/ weed control apps if you're interested. I just met this person and think he's my new go-to guy. He does trees too..
I am looking for lawn renovation work like aerations and landscaping like mulch installs, topsoil, sod installation, seeding, verticut, power raking, etc, when you're too busy mowing in the spring keep me in mind and I'll send you mowing clients in your area as payback, or I'll give you a kick back or contractor rate. I'll send you some personal info and service descriptions so you can see how I do things.

[jjvvdd]

I appreciate the response. :waving: I will definately keep in touch.
Jeff
Dodson Lawncare

[Mowgli]

How do you guys charge for aerting around here?
what is your minimum you charge you customer?

[Popper357]

Varies, I just heard a guy who charges ten bucks for a thousands square feet, another who charges eighteen fifty per thousand, I charge ninty nine minumum but some lco's charge sixty to eighty. Depends on the clients I guess

I'm probally going to come down some this year to be more competative...
I was always renting the aerators and that is expensive so I tried to charge more, but when I buy my aerator this year I'll be lowering prices slightly

[DLS1]

How do you guys charge for aerting around here?
what is your minimum you charge you customer?

I heard people are charging $13 per 1,000 sq ft. with a minimum of $75.

[Mowgli]

Varies, I just heard a guy who charges ten bucks for a thousands square feet, another who charges eighteen fifty per thousand, I charge ninty nine minumum but some lco's charge sixty to eighty. Depends on the clients I guess

I'm probally going to come down some this year to be more competative...
I was always renting the aerators and that is expensive so I tried to charge more, but when I buy my aerator this year I'll be lowering prices slightly

I was tinking about buying one but i'm not sure what brand to get.
I like Bluebird but i think i want something wider and easy to control on the hill.

Troy

[captaingreen]

I was tinking about buying one but i'm not sure what brand to get.
I like Bluebird but i think i want something wider and easy to control on the hill.

Troy
I would highly reccomend a Ryan :waving:

[Mowgli]

Thanks, captaingreen.

[TYGRO1]

Have you ever been fined?

[HazellLawnCare]

Do you think a very professional service provider could get a days worth of work in the Blue Springs, Lees Summit area with just high quality door hangers? I would like to move my operation to the KC area but would rather do it in phases. Considering hanging a several thousand door hangers the first of March. We offer mowing, dethatching, aerating, overseeding, shrub trimming, installs(seeded or sod), and are licensed applicators. We have a very professional looking setup, new equipment, uniformed employees. Do you think we could grow very fast?

[packerbacker]

Do you think a very professional service provider could get a days worth of work in the Blue Springs, Lees Summit area with just high quality door hangers? I would like to move my operation to the KC area but would rather do it in phases. Considering hanging a several thousand door hangers the first of March. We offer mowing, dethatching, aerating, overseeding, shrub trimming, installs(seeded or sod), and are licensed applicators. We have a very professional looking setup, new equipment, uniformed employees. Do you think we could grow very fast?





I live on the KS side but from what i have seen BS and LS are expanding at vert fast rate. I think in the last 3 years there have been over a few thousand new houses built there. New shopping areas are going up. Those 2 towns are really expanding.

[bottlefed89]

Yea, you could grow down here, but you have to realize that while there may be some competition in Marshall, there is a ton down here in the KC area, especially in the LS, and BS areas. Not saying that you couldn't make it work, but there is a ton of established competition.
greg

[Popper357]

sup Greg, to add to the answer, I don't think it's possible to expand quickly unless you have huge man power for sales along with a huge or outstanding marketing campaign. A days worth of work a week (I figure that's what you mean, mowing) would be doable but I would guess that it'd take door hangers, door to door and ads plus thirty to forty man hours in sales alone (for residential sales). I started my business with zero clients and had thirty by the end of summer but I worked my butt off with flyers and door to door (had to pay bills) and most of those customers were'nt ideal and didn't last long. They just kinda filled the voids in my budget (crudely).

But your idea sound like it had plenty of positive benefits and little risk so why not try?

[Envision]

Anyone provide top dressing as a service? I have a client that is interested in top dressing his lawn, however I don't have an efficient means of providing this service. If someone was equipped to do it and is interested, give me a call @ 816-665-3979. This lawn is in Lee's Summit.

Thanks, Tim.

[Popper357]

Anyone have a good resource for polver. dirt, gravel, bulk mulch (or 3ft bags) and other landscape contractor supplies. There's several in the yellow pages but I want to see feedback from contractors perspectives please. Phillips in Raytown charges thirty a yard for black pol soil, twenty five for a ton of 3/4 gravel, and thirty to forty for a yard of mulch, seems pretty high compared to bits I've heard. Need to get relationships with the suppliers around town. Thanks for looking!

[KCLandscape]

As in Philips lawn service?
If you have a business account you can go anywhere, suburban, rosehill, ect..

[capitallandscapes]

Popper357. What kind of grinder do u have?

[Popper357]

Phillips, the supply company on 350 HI, not a service co.
A business account, as in a businesss checking account? Right on I am going to get into suppliers and meeting as many people as possible next week. I've never been in Suburban but heard of it many times, think that's my first stop. Thanks!

Capitol, my blade grinder (you mean?) It's an Oregon I bought off the net last year. very nice unit for sharpening blades, highly recommend. It's for sale but I'd like to check with my client purchase contractor (bottlefed) to see if he wants it first. If you're interested, pm or post here. Probally ask for one fifty, condition is excellent. I'll post a pic if you're interested. Thanks
Also, I'm going dirt bike riding this weekend with buddies :) Anyone ride?

[robertsturf]

Popper , Suburban is a great source of landscape materials in this area. With 1 draw-back, you have to purchase at least $1000.00 worth of supplies with them in a year to purchase at reduced prices. On Phillips he is more of a retail operation I used to work for him a while back very nice guy but will charge his mom retail. Good Luck.

[TYGRO1]

Try Suburban, In Martin City It's About 20.00 A Trailer Load.

[packerbacker]

Is this thread dead now? Hammons emailed me a while back and said he got banned and I havent heard from him since.

Who's in the Johnson County KS area?

[Envision]

Why would he have been banned? I thought he was a valuable resource to this forum. I don't venture too close to the state line as I am in Lee's Summit.

[packerbacker]

Why would he have been banned? I thought he was a valuable resource to this forum. I don't venture too close to the state line as I am in Lee's Summit.





He tried to explain it to me and he showed me the posts but I didnt think he said anything bad. He was basically razzing a guy giving him a little sh*t. He's a nice fellow though.

[packerbacker]

BTW i just had one of my customers in OP ask me if I did work in LS. I said no but I can try to get some info if your interested. Im sure its a mowing job.

[Envision]

Pass them on to me, 816-665-3979, I could use a few more mowing clients. Haven't been getting the calls like I wanted for mowing, but the landscaping ones have been coming in.

Too bad for Hamons, he seems like a really nice guy. Maybe he'll be back......

Tim

[packerbacker]

Thanks Tim, ill be back over at the gals house on Mon and Ill get the info.

[bottlefed89]

I do a lot of work in L.S. and Rayton too. If you need to sub any mowing or professional tree work or bobcat work, let me know. I also have a good buddy who is looking for more Landscaping work if anyone gets overbooked.

Anyone on here deal with AllSeasons LLC, or Chemtech, the guys name is Lee.
let me know if any of you have done any business with him, just shoot me a pm.
thanks
greg

[KCLandscape]

in Fairway.
Business is rocketing out of control. Lots of people wanting a big redo--YAHOO!!
Trying to limit travel unless they are existing customers. I really dont like to travel 120 blocks if I can help it.
I think we can thank "Extreme Makeover " for this spring rush of business...
And the weather so far...Need some more rain.
N

[timinkc]

anyone know of any good alternitive to lesco on the missouri side? just wanting to compare some prices on chemicals.

[PLM-1]

anyone know of any good alternitive to lesco on the missouri side? just wanting to compare some prices on chemicals.
If you wanna venture to Lenexa, Helena Chemical is great, worth the trip!

[packerbacker]

in Fairway.
Business is rocketing out of control. Lots of people wanting a big redo--YAHOO!!
Trying to limit travel unless they are existing customers. I really dont like to travel 120 blocks if I can help it.
I think we can thank "Extreme Makeover " for this spring rush of business...
And the weather so far...Need some more rain.
N


Dont worry, we will be getting plenty of rain soon enough. We will all be cussing in May.

[DLS1]

Pass them on to me, 816-665-3979, I could use a few more mowing clients. Haven't been getting the calls like I wanted for mowing, but the landscaping ones have been coming in.

Too bad for Hamons, he seems like a really nice guy. Maybe he'll be back......

Tim

I mow in Lee's Summit only and have not picked up one new customer yet this year. I have given out some bids for HOA and residential. I guess I have raised my prices to much.

I didn't see banned next to Hamons name. I got the impression he left when a few others left who posted on the pesticide forum.

[packerbacker]

I mow in Lee's Summit only and have not picked up one new customer yet this year. I have given out some bids for HOA and residential. I guess I have raised my prices to much.

I didn't see banned next to Hamons name. I got the impression he left when a few others left who posted on the pesticide forum.




I didnt see it either but he told me he was. Ive picked up 7 in the last month or so. I dont do alot of advertising though.

[br549oicu8]

I am in Leavenworth..not too far from you guys. We buy from BWI, Helena and UHS depending on who gives the best pricing.
Been in business 25 years.
Buddy

Buddy Rodgers & Son

[Popper357]

I have some stuff for sale.
A like new lesco backpack sprayer, $50
8000 Redmax BP blower VGC, $400
04 Redmax comp shaft trimmer w/ new gen head $200
02 Trimmer traps, holds three (need cut off the trailer) $100
Oregon Blade grinder, new in 04 $125
Almost full gallon of Momentum post herbicide (1.5 ounce to a gal of water)$25
OBO

Switched to Landscaping after four years of mowing. Looking for work so if anyone wants to sub or refer out some small jobs please send it my way. I can mail out info and business cards so you'll be ready. I'll trade equip or give kickbacks etc. Looking for lawn aeration, soil, mulch, gravel installation, garden tilling, planting flowers trees and shrubs, small jobs etc. And if anyone wants referals send me your info and cards and we'll work together. 816-679-3296 Ryan

[Popper357]

Sold the blade grinder.

[Bennett H&L]

hello all im in overland park ks 71 and metcalf just me been mowing for 4 years now and now starting land scaping work so if anyone needs some mowing help email me at yjrockcrawler@aol.com if getting backed up or wana go on a vaction lol and i found a good place to dump your tree waste at marrs like 20 to 30 a truck load not bad thanks all

[Mowgli]

Anyone in Johnson county area that does fertilizer only, please E-mail me @ bigmowgli@yahoo.com. I have few clients that need fertilization program.

[capitallandscapes]

I do fert in joco. Let me know what area. Also, anyone interested in mowing and weed control on yard at 26th and Euclid KC Mo.? Too far out of way for me and not in the best "hood". Let me know.
Brad
913.207.4531

[cleancutccl]

In the lawrence area so anyone with sub info for Lawrence or Eudora just pm me. Thanks.

[Envision]

I have a lawn in Independence that needs to be mowed on a somewhat regular basis.. Very nice people, hate to leave them hanging but my friends that live by them are moving and it is too far away for me continue to service their property. It is up by 24 hwy and 291. If you are interested, I'll pass your information along to them. Call me @ 816-665-3979.

Tim.

[Popper357]

"26th and Euclid"

Yea, that's the hood.
I used to mow some vacant lots down there my first year. I was scared as hell driving around there with my rig. Place might as well be mexico :dizzy:

That place is going to be dangerous this summer.

I had a guy call me twice in the last couple days from a house at 16th and Kensington, told him both times that I don't leave the suburbs. Is that discrimination? I don't give a :angel:

He said "Business must be good because nobody wants to come here for work?"
I hate just driving through that place.

[packerbacker]

hello all im in overland park ks 71 and metcalf just me been mowing for 4 years now and now starting land scaping work so if anyone needs some mowing help email me at yjrockcrawler@aol.com if getting backed up or wana go on a vaction lol and i found a good place to dump your tree waste at marrs like 20 to 30 a truck load not bad thanks all





Your right down the street from me. Im at 74th and Conser.

[packerbacker]

"26th and Euclid"

Yea, that's the hood.
I used to mow some vacant lots down there my first year. I was scared as hell driving around there with my rig. Place might as well be mexico :dizzy:

That place is going to be dangerous this summer.

I had a guy call me twice in the last couple days from a house at 16th and Kensington, told him both times that I don't leave the suburbs. Is that discrimination? I don't give a :angel:

He said "Business must be good because nobody wants to come here for work?"
I hate just driving through that place.








I had a gal call me from 14th and Quindaro a few weeks ago! Not a snowballs chance in hell I would go down there.

[DLS1]

I had a gal call me from 14th and Quindaro a few weeks ago! Not a snowballs chance in hell I would go down there.

Different world from Johnson County. I worked in downtown Kansas City Kansas for 3 years and going from downtown Kansas City Missouri to Kansas City Kansas is depressing. At least they have the NASCAR track now :D

[bottlefed89]

I used to mow 4 lots around 14th and quindaro. I mowed by mysef then. I always had people wanting jobs, had one guy start mouthing me about cutting a plant of his down (wonder what it was) but other than that never had any problems. I think I'll turn them down, or greatly raise the price if they call this year. Too much trash in the area.

[packerbacker]

I used to mow 4 lots around 14th and quindaro. I mowed by mysef then. I always had people wanting jobs, had one guy start mouthing me about cutting a plant of his down (wonder what it was) but other than that never had any problems. I think I'll turn them down, or greatly raise the price if they call this year. Too much trash in the area.







To much trash and I would have to charge triple just to afford the gas.

[Bennett H&L]

ya packerbacker not to far at all , you drive a green ford truck ? well if ya get swamped let me know lol later

[packerbacker]

ya packerbacker not to far at all , you drive a green ford truck ? well if ya get swamped let me know lol later





Close lol, its black. Im getting swamped. Picked up 9 new houses and a dry cleaning building in the last few weeks. If Im outside stop by for a beer. I always keep a couple cold ones on hand for just such an occasion.

[Popper357]

Anyone get leads on retaining walls, we are looking to line up some more work.

[Bennett H&L]

Close lol, its black. Im getting swamped. Picked up 9 new houses and a dry cleaning building in the last few weeks. If Im outside stop by for a beer. I always keep a couple cold ones on hand for just such an occasion.
lol ya i think your right behind the fire station, if so i do 2 yards like 2 houses from your house lol , i have the green dodge ram with the yellow and green trailer , small world

[packerbacker]

lol ya i think your right behind the fire station, if so i do 2 yards like 2 houses from your house lol , i have the green dodge ram with the yellow and green trailer , small world





Ahhh, ok, I think Ive waved to you a couple times. Now I remember. Next time stop by if you see me out.

[br549oicu8]

Hey Packer man......looks like you are picking up some accounts!! Congrats!!
We sold our Great Dane Chariot Saturday and are getting a new Kubota ZD-28 delivered tomorrow.
We still have a Wright Sentar 52" for sale.
We are trying out a Everride Warrior tomorrow too...same dealer as Kubota.
O'Dell Tractor in INdependence...good dealer...great service.

[packerbacker]

Hey Packer man......looks like you are picking up some accounts!! Congrats!!
We sold our Great Dane Chariot Saturday and are getting a new Kubota ZD-28 delivered tomorrow.
We still have a Wright Sentar 52" for sale.
We are trying out a Everride Warrior tomorrow too...same dealer as Kubota.
O'Dell Tractor in INdependence...good dealer...great service.





How much are you asking for the sentar BR?

[br549oicu8]

I would like to get $3300...had been asking $3500 and we put a new $1800 Kawasaki 23hp on it last year.
It has about 1400 hours on the unit. Give me a call....I'll be around evenings and the weekend at our new shop.
Buddy
(913)306-LAWN

[packerbacker]

I would like to get $3300...had been asking $3500 and we put a new $1800 Kawasaki 23hp on it last year.
It has about 1400 hours on the unit. Give me a call....I'll be around evenings and the weekend at our new shop.
Buddy
(913)306-LAWN






Ill try to give you a call towards the end of the week. Im not going to be able to do anything for a few weeks so if I miss out on it then its my fault :)

[br549oicu8]

No problem. You can come up and give it a test drive with no strings attached.

[allamericanlawnservices]

I just started in KC North and am doing very well so far. I've picked up a large subdivision and 18 houses in the past month. I have other full time employment but have other employees and am still looking at expansion opportunities.

[packerbacker]

Anyone here go down near 635 and Leavenworth Rd? I have a duplex for the first responder!

[Festuca]

What are you guys paying for improved fescues in the area? I went to the Grass P.. and the fescues they sell are junk. I couldn't find any of their varieties in MO INTEP trials.

[Popper357]

What are you talking about: MO INTEP? Improved fescues?

I've never been to the Grass Pad.

[robertsturf]

Try Suburban in Martin City, they have RTF Fescue, or Lesco has some decent variety's.

[br549oicu8]

BWI has a 5 Star that is very good quality.

[Bennett H&L]

Anyone here go down near 635 and Leavenworth Rd? I have a duplex for the first responder!
hey whays up ya email me at yjrockcrawler@aol.com i just got 2 yards out that way thanks heath

[packerbacker]

What are you guys paying for improved fescues in the area? I went to the Grass P.. and the fescues they sell are junk. I couldn't find any of their varieties in MO INTEP trials.'






Try Merriam Feed on Johnson Drive and I-35.

[Bennett H&L]

hello packer , you still have the 2 at lv rd and 635? if so i got 2 out that way today , was going to stop by your house today drove by slow lol didnt see ya , email me at yjrockcrawler@aol.com talk to ya later heath

[packerbacker]

hello packer , you still have the 2 at lv rd and 635? if so i got 2 out that way today , was going to stop by your house today drove by slow lol didnt see ya , email me at yjrockcrawler@aol.com talk to ya later heath







No I dont heath, the gal called me a couple days after I posted it and I hadnt heard anything from anyone so I told her to look elsewhere. Sorry :(

[Popper357]

Landscaping has been good, been learning alot
I'm looking for more work, just about any job to pay the bills
Been building fencing and powerwashing decks and concrete lately and I can do anything except irrigation and illumination
Anyone too busy and want to sub out some work?
PM me

[Livinglarge]

Has anyone been fighting a diseases where the leaves are yellowish and oarngish? I have been battling this one all year and seem to be losing. I see it in alot of lawns not only the ones I am doing. :blob3:

[LonniesLawns]

Most likely is rust.

Does it look like this?

Best control is cutual -- get your fertilization program more balanced out adn wate only in the mornings. Iahve not seen it on any of my yards.

PS: pay no attention to my location stated by my name :rolleyes:

[bigrig1]

I'm north of the river and am going to start in the business next spring. Going to use Lesco and The grass pad for fert and Paradise nursery for trees & shrubs. Anyone that's just mowing, I will be specializing in mowing, softscape landscaping, yearly mulching and landscape maintenance(cleaning beds, spruce ups etc) so keep me in mind for a reference or sub work.

[bigrig1]

Man -- I did all of your work for you. I needed one the other day and I called every place in town. United rental is the only place that has them -- both the one in Olathe and the one in Martin City. $22/hr - 2hr min.

It is the trench master -- I love that machine -- it works like a pro!

http://www.rpm-co.com/images/be.gif


Hamons,

What would you pay per foot to hire a sub to come out and edge your new beds? existing beds?

[packerbacker]

I'm north of the river and am going to start in the business next spring. Going to use Lesco and The grass pad for fert and Paradise nursery for trees & shrubs. Anyone that's just mowing, I will be specializing in mowing, softscape landscaping, yearly mulching and landscape maintenance(cleaning beds, spruce ups etc) so keep me in mind for a reference or sub work.





Dont use the grass pad. Its a rip off.

[DLS1]

Hamons,

What would you pay per foot to hire a sub to come out and edge your new beds? existing beds?

Hamons does not post on lawnsite anymore. His name doesn't say banned but I heard he was banned by lawnsite.

[packerbacker]

Hamons does not post on lawnsite anymore. His name doesn't say banned but I heard he was banned by lawnsite.





He told me he was banned VIA email one day but I noticed his name never said it either.

[PLM-1]

Hamons does not post on lawnsite anymore. His name doesn't say banned but I heard he was banned by lawnsite.

Correct, I talked to him on AOL the other day.

[packerbacker]

Any of you guys know where I can get some welding done on my trailer? I need some new mesh and a little repair on the gate.

[DLS1]

Any of you guys know where I can get some welding done on my trailer? I need some new mesh and a little repair on the gate.

Let us know how much it cost you to do it and what you did when you get it done. I would think any small welding shop would do it.

I need to add a metal angle iron bar under the mesh where the tires drive onto the gate (so 2 angle iron pieces). I also need to get the wire mess welded at every other spot where the mowers drive off the gate since the mowers sometimes catch the wire mesh. Wish I would have gotten a better trailer but didn't know what a good trailer looked like when I first started.

[Bennett H&L]

call metal by the foot for the mesh and you could ask them someone that does it

[robertsturf]

Hey Packer try Truck Trailer and Hitch in Grandview, they do exellent work, I've bought 4 trailers from them. Or there is a trailer place in Leavenworth but I can't remember their name.

[Bennett H&L]

hey if its not to much i have a welder too can do it at your house , wouldn't take to long , and i can get torches to just a thought

[packerbacker]

hey if its not to much i have a welder too can do it at your house , wouldn't take to long , and i can get torches to just a thought





thats cool with me, where could I get the mesh at and how much do you want?

[Bennett H&L]

thats cool with me, where could I get the mesh at and how much do you want?
call metal by the foot , thay are down on truman rd, thats where i got the metal to build my trailer, i built it all myself in a weekend , and price i dono not alot not to much to replace the gate . email me at yjrockcrawler@aol.com and i can give you my number , talk to ya later heath

[Primecut]

FWIW, I had to get a whole new gate to my trailer last year. Went to Croft trailer in Olathe and they charged me $400. Seemed a little high to me.

[Popper357]

Business has been good lately. How's business going here in KC for other contractors?
Hoping to hit the lake this weekend to cool off and relax after our great weather lately.

And does anyone do concrete patios and driveways? I could use a good sub or someone to team up with on my concrete projects. I seem to get them often to some degree.
Ryan

[Popper357]

I am wondering how the metro market is for landscaping. Anyone work in landscaping and know about where the best market is? I have been passing out flyers on the nicest homes in Raytown and haven't gotten any calls so far, so I want to pass out more in better locations like Lakewood or NKC. Trying to get enough work to keep me and a helper busy but so far business has been hit and miss. I'm good at bidding work and can do almost any landscape type job correctly, on time and on budget so anyone out there with some sub work or refferals, please PM me. Thanks

Also what type of print ad is working well? I've posted in Raytown Tribune and Thrifty Nickell with some success at finding small jobs, a KC Star ad didn't get much all spring and I ended it, but maybe this is a better time of year for that. Hows the yellow page ads working, I'll be in next years edition.
Thanks

[Popper357]

KC Star ad has done better, ten calls in one week. Sold several jobs.

Need some yews (hedge type) and checked Bannister Gardens today. 25% off on very good looking yews. 37.50 each (no gar.). I need 8-16 if anyone can beat this deal. I can post pics of the Bannister Gardens stock for comparision.
Anyone got the stuff PM please
Ryan

[Rayray]

Hey Popper,,,when are u going to go dirtbike riding again???,,,,,call me up ,i been dieing to pull my honda outta the shed,,,,,816-716-2341 ray

[Popper357]

Maybe this weekend... I'll get back to you. What kind of bike you got? Probably hit the MX track
Thunder hill is open tonight

[Rayray]

honda xr350 ,,its a beast for me, i cant handle it very well, prob not the best bike to start off with. I also have a 300ex that i am rebuilding right now, what do u ride?

[Popper357]

hell that xr350 is a awesome bike to start on for offroading. It's heavy yea but it's a solid bike with good power and suspension (for it's era)

I ride the tracks mostly though, a race bike is neccessary for MX tracks
My crf450r is my prize possesion and it's way lighter than your 350

My buddy Andrew has a few trikes
I know where to go for trails and tracks around here. You can ride your quad at Grindstone (allowed on the track). It's off the chain

[Popper357]

Anyone selling some mowing accounts, let me know, I'm looking to buy. Thanks

[cleancutccl]

I need to find a dealer for a brown bed edger, i need to buy at least by tuesday so I need to know asap. Brown's website is of no help. Thanks for any help.

[HazellLawnCare]

Popper357,
What does the guy that bought all of your mowing accounts think of you wanting to get back into business? Did he not make you sign a non compete? I had a funny feeling when we were talking about your accounts glad I did what I did.

[Livinglarge]

Popper357,
What does the guy that bought all of your mowing accounts think of you wanting to get back into business? Did he not make you sign a non compete? I had a funny feeling when we were talking about your accounts glad I did what I did.


Right on Hazell. I was wondering the same thing. Have you made had any luck working in KC yet?

[Rayray]

Hey guys whats the best place in your opinion to buy fertilizer??? I am looking for the best price,,dont care if it is bagged or bulk

[br549oicu8]

We usually go between Helena Chemical and BWI.
It varies as to who is the best price.

[Rayray]

Anyone wanna split a shop for next year??
Northland or Independence???

[bottlefed89]

Anyone got any advice on how to collect money owed to me for doing some snowplowing sub-work for some one I met through lawnsite and plowsite?? This certain individual owes me $1400. The person is a deadbeat, and acts like a child when trying to deal with him. I don't want to name any names, but others in the area have encountered similar situations with him. I wish I would have known that a long time ago... ANyway, if anyone has any good ideas please let me know, I could use the money.
Thanks
greg

[Envision]

Looks like we are going to have quite a few renovations to do this year, I have several lawns that aren't going to bounce back from the drought. What kind of rates are you KC guys charging for Slice Seeding/Verticutting? Just need to get a price check as this is new area for me. Typically I've just done aerating with overseeding in the past.

Thanks, Tim.

[bottlefed89]

I typically just aerate and over seed also, but I think when I've done it in the past, I've charged something like $8/thousand square feet.

[i_plant_art]

Hey guys im wanting to get some info on the area. MY wife and i are thinking or moving, we have narowed it down to a few choices, KC being one of them. I would like to know a little about the town, atmosphere, the weather, how hot/cold it gets on average. Are the schools any good etc etc. How is the business layout there/ ample work or thin and scarce? Are there any areas that we should avoid when finding a place to live? Any areas better/richer/poorer than others..... What about living in kansas vs missouri what are the pros and cons of each? I would think we would want to live somewhere in the suburbs not in the actual city itself, so im not all so interested in the stats/info of KC but more so of the burbs. My wife has a job at BofA and could easily transfer there and hold us over til i get a new business up and going but just not sure where to head right now. We are planning on visiting KC this wall once the season dies down some here, so i will be able to get first hand experience of the city and suuounding areas, but would like to get yall's opinions/advice b4 hand so that i know where to go what to look for in each areas, what not to look for what to expect etc etc. Thanks for any info and im sure ill have more imput as you guys chime in with your thoughts.

Thanks Brian

[DLS1]

Anyone got any advice on how to collect money owed to me for doing some snowplowing sub-work for some one I met through lawnsite and plowsite?? This certain individual owes me $1400. The person is a deadbeat, and acts like a child when trying to deal with him. I don't want to name any names, but others in the area have encountered similar situations with him. I wish I would have known that a long time ago... ANyway, if anyone has any good ideas please let me know, I could use the money.
Thanks
greg


By not identifying this person your enabling him to con someone else. In in effect your rewarding someone who cheats people but punishing others who are law abiding LCO's.

I think your loyalties are backwards.

[DLS1]

Hey guys im wanting to get some info on the area. MY wife and i are thinking or moving, we have narowed it down to a few choices, KC being one of them. I would like to know a little about the town, atmosphere, the weather, how hot/cold it gets on average. Are the schools any good etc etc. How is the business layout there/ ample work or thin and scarce? Are there any areas that we should avoid when finding a place to live? Any areas better/richer/poorer than others..... What about living in kansas vs missouri what are the pros and cons of each? I would think we would want to live somewhere in the suburbs not in the actual city itself, so im not all so interested in the stats/info of KC but more so of the burbs. My wife has a job at BofA and could easily transfer there and hold us over til i get a new business up and going but just not sure where to head right now. We are planning on visiting KC this wall once the season dies down some here, so i will be able to get first hand experience of the city and suuounding areas, but would like to get yall's opinions/advice b4 hand so that i know where to go what to look for in each areas, what not to look for what to expect etc etc. Thanks for any info and im sure ill have more imput as you guys chime in with your thoughts.

Thanks Brian

Johnson County Kansas is where the money is in the KC area. Cities like Overland Park, Olathe, etc. DO NOT live in Kansas City. It has high crime compared to the suburbs.

[Popper357]

In general, JOCO is the best place to live and has the best area schools. Lee's Summit and Northland (both in MO) are your best alternatives. Competition for lawn businesses here is fierce. I've never been to TN but I bet it's similar.

Our weather is dramatic: being too hot or too cold to work, too wet or too dry. Our humidity levels are a major issue in the summer.
In general, the lawn business is alive, well and expanding. We build new homes quickly.
Downtown is going through a major revival
The job market isn't quite stellar here though and there is a large bluecollar workforce.

[Envision]

Johnson County Kansas is where the money is in the KC area. Cities like Overland Park, Olathe, etc. DO NOT live in Kansas City. It has high crime compared to the suburbs.

Both Overland Park and Lee's Summit were on CNN's top 100 places to live in the US. My choices would be Overland Park, Lee's Summit, Raymore and Olathe. All four have had substantial growth in the KC area and are located more south. However, North KC is booming but I don't know much about the specific areas that would be the best to live. Someone else may have some input for those areas.

[turfcobob]

Lombardi:

Go out to the Lesco Store in Olathe they have an edger that can be used for installing edging. they may even rent it out.

Turfcobob

[i_plant_art]

In general, JOCO is the best place to live and has the best area schools. Lee's Summit and Northland (both in MO) are your best alternatives. Competition for lawn businesses here is fierce. I've never been to TN but I bet it's similar.

Our weather is dramatic: being too hot or too cold to work, too wet or too dry. Our humidity levels are a major issue in the summer.
In general, the lawn business is alive, well and expanding. We build new homes quickly.
Downtown is going through a major revival
The job market isn't quite stellar here though and there is a large bluecollar workforce.


How hot/cold does it get there. Which month is the hottest? coldesat? ive been looking up the weather history and have seen that right now its in the high to low 80-90's for the temp. how long til fall will be here and the leaves fall? im sure mowing companies arte the same here everyone with a truck and trailer quailfies LOL i think its that way everywhere. What kinda of humidity is it there. Here in TN (im outside of memphis) we get high 90 june-august with late july and early august being the hottest around 105-115 with the heat index so im sure by goign north it cant get any worse.??? what about home market? what would u say the avg price is for a 3 bed 2 bath house there roughly 1400 sq.ft. what does an acre sell for?


Thanks for the info.

[bottlefed89]

There have been quite a few days around 100 this summer. Seems like there were a few in a row with heat index's around 114. Kinda hard to say what's normal here, because it will suprise you many days. We normally have pretty high humidity though. seems like when I was a kid we had snow all winter long, but that hasn;t been the story for the past few years. all in all it probably isn't a whole lot different than what you are used to.

[Popper357]

Yea, it's just like your weather, I Plant Art. Low end 3/2 home in JOCO is 140k and up.
JOCO has been built out well, NKC is growing and building the fastest for the KC metro. If you want more help learning KC, feel free to ask

[Bennett H&L]

hello was wondering if anyone is out by 5108 n richmand ave 64119 ? i have a yard there that needs bid and or mowed was tryin to see if anyone out there close to it ? thanks

[Popper357]

Hi Bennett,
I tried to send a PM and there was an error message. I'm interested and can go bid that job today. My min is $35 and the property must be on a schedule. Let me know if that works for this customer and you. Thanks
Ryan Odneal

[Bennett H&L]

ya i got to find out if its a reg job or not, its one of the comps i work for one of the rental houses or one of there remod houses, if its a rental house than ya it will be a perm one, ill find out, i just dont want to drive all the way out there for one yard lol

[Popper357]

Thanks anyway
Hoping the lead was a homeowner with a nice prop
see if 35min a week is OK till winter, mo billing

[Bennett H&L]

ya give me an email at yjrockcrawler@aol.com it looks like rest of the season and every 2 weeks

[Regankc]

Anyone interest in plowing this winter? I run a small mowing business and picked up new mowing accounts in Gardner and Shawnee Mission...now I need to figure out a winter strategy to support these accounts. Could use an extra plow/spreader and hand crew.

Unlike the guy mentioned (or better stated, "not mentioned") earlier in this string, I pay well and after each storm.

Regan
Ervin Lawn & Landscape LLC

[PLM-1]

Anyone interest in plowing this winter? I run a small mowing business and picked up new mowing accounts in Gardner and Shawnee Mission...now I need to figure out a winter strategy to support these accounts. Could use an extra plow/spreader and hand crew.

Unlike the guy mentioned (or better stated, "not mentioned") earlier in this string, I pay well and after each storm.

Regan
Ervin Lawn & Landscape LLC

I would be interested! Send me details at precisionlawnmanagement@hotmail.com THANKS!

[PLM-1]

If anyone needs subs for anything, please let me know. Also, if anyone is getting out of lawns and would like to sell their route let me know as well!

[Bennett H&L]

hey all does anyone know how to charge for power rakeing i just got one and if anyone needs it done let me know i got a ryans 5 hp power rake thanks

[Envision]

I may be on the low side, but I charge $18-20 per 1k for powerraking. You also need to account for dumping charges, sometimes I add that in extra but it all depends on the job.

[bottlefed89]

Regan, I'm interested inplowing, should have a decent amount of equipment this winter. Email me some info...
thanks
greg
bottlefed89@hotmail.com

[Popper357]

$999 obo
I have a Bluebird aerator for sale
Good condition
More pics upon request

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/popper357/DogsandAerator007.jpg

[capitallandscapes]

Ill give you $500

913.207.4531

[LonniesLawns]

Anybody have the ability to bore under driveways? Needing to sub out the task for a sprinkller installation.

[Livinglarge]

I am looking to buy an LCO this year if anyone is looking to "cash in"

[hhlawn]

I got into this business to make some good money and enjoy the outdoors. Boy why did I open my mouth??? I got three big accounts in the last 20 days. I bid on all three and was hoping to get only one. They all liked my proposals, and they all gave me the business. One is a mgmt. company that has 900+ properties (40 % apartment complex's / multi housing, rest single family housing) The other two accounts are multi commercial complexes and a housing division. I can handle the lawn care, but I have no idea what to do about the winter. All properties need plowing. I plan on sub some of the winter stuff out, and I guess I am going to have to buy a couple of plows. (What does a good plow go for these days. Its been 10+ years since I plowed with a big blade). I got the funding to make all this work, but now I need the man power. I am looking for sub's for Plowing. Work is in NKC. KCK. KCMO. and JOCO.

Serious Reliable and Professional workers Need only to apply. New or near new equipment a must. Proof of insurance (auto and liability) needed. If Plowing works out, there is much more work avail.

I am looking for a little guidance and obviously allot of help. Top $$$$$ to the right person / people who help me make this work. I know that It sounds like I am in over my head, I am, but I WILL make it work. Allot of organization and the right people, and it will work. I got the organization going now I need the right people.


Email me with:
Company name and contact info. A short paragraph history of your company. Number of employees that are guaranteed for snow removal. And a short paragraph on what sets your company apart from everyone else. I am not looking for an essay or a resume, but I just want to know a little bit about you and your company. And if you take the time to do this you have good chance of making some good $$ this winter. Pending snow of course.

If you are interested email me at kcpocketbike@everestkc.net. It may take up to a week for me to respond. but I will reply by email /or phone.

Thanks
Hershey

H H Lawn and Landscape

[DLS1]

I got into this business to make some good money and enjoy the outdoors. Boy why did I open my mouth??? I got three big accounts in the last 20 days. I bid on all three and was hoping to get only one. They all liked my proposals, and they all gave me the business. One is a mgmt. company that has 900+ properties (40 % apartment complex's / multi housing, rest single family housing) The other two accounts are multi commercial complexes and a housing division. I can handle the lawn care, but I have no idea what to do about the winter. All properties need plowing. I plan on sub some of the winter stuff out, and I guess I am going to have to buy a couple of plows. (What does a good plow go for these days. Its been 10+ years since I plowed with a big blade). I got the funding to make all this work, but now I need the man power. I am looking for sub's for Plowing. Work is in NKC. KCK. KCMO. and JOCO.

Serious Reliable and Professional workers Need only to apply. New or near new equipment a must. Proof of insurance (auto and liability) needed. If Plowing works out, there is much more work avail.

I am looking for a little guidance and obviously allot of help. Top $$$$$ to the right person / people who help me make this work. I know that It sounds like I am in over my head, I am, but I WILL make it work. Allot of organization and the right people, and it will work. I got the organization going now I need the right people.


Email me with:
Company name and contact info. A short paragraph history of your company. Number of employees that are guaranteed for snow removal. And a short paragraph on what sets your company apart from everyone else. I am not looking for an essay or a resume, but I just want to know a little bit about you and your company. And if you take the time to do this you have good chance of making some good $$ this winter. Pending snow of course.

If you are interested email me at kcpocketbike@everestkc.net. It may take up to a week for me to respond. but I will reply by email /or phone.

Thanks
Hershey

H H Lawn and Landscape

You are right you sound way over your head. It sounds like you underbid to get all 3 accounts. You appear like you don't know a thing about what to do in the winter so i am wondering how did you determine what to bid for the winter work.

Not to be to negative but this sounds like a train wreck. Hope it works out for you.

[hhlawn]

The winter stuff is not in the original bid, We agreed on some guidelines. I really did not underbid to get the jobs. I am 3.5 % lower on one and less then 2% lower on the other two accounts. Its all in the presentation. ( I worked in international sales for 8 years) I can handle the mowing no problem. I will have the manpower and plenty of equip. I just need to get past the winter. They are all well aware of my lack of snow removal experience. Thats why they expect me to sub it out. I know it sounds like a train wreck, but once I get it organized it will be a smooth ride ( I hope :)

[Bennett H&L]

how much are you going to pay? and i have a 8 foot plow and a 2 ton spreder, and a quad 4x4 with a blade for sidewalks, i have worked for true north the past 2 years subn for them

[hhlawn]

email me with info and I will contact you. Pay will be determined before your plow hits the snow.

[DLS1]

The winter stuff is not in the original bid, We agreed on some guidelines. I really did not underbid to get the jobs. I am 3.5 % lower on one and less then 2% lower on the other two accounts. Its all in the presentation. ( I worked in international sales for 8 years) I can handle the mowing no problem. I will have the manpower and plenty of equip. I just need to get past the winter. They are all well aware of my lack of snow removal experience. Thats why they expect me to sub it out. I know it sounds like a train wreck, but once I get it organized it will be a smooth ride ( I hope :)

Okay sounds like you know what your doing. What towns in KC are the properties located for the winter work. I don't do winter work but others may need to know to determine if they would be able to subcontract for you.

Sounds like a problem is getting enough help for mowing unless you already have a way to get into the H2B pool of workers.

Seems like another big problem you may have is growing to big to fast and needing a lot of cash and people to get started.

Good luck.

[Popper357]

Not to run people off track with the threads most recent posts, but I am looking to get a hot tub set up here at the house and wondering if anyone knows of any old hot tubs that are unwanted. I can pickup tubs from houses and offering a small cash kickback. Thanks all

HHLawn, why did you leave int. sales? How much money do you have? It's nice to push snow on the clock as a sub, but the checks better come quick, too. Your post sounds like a "get rich quick" sceme. Nobody just comes up with a ton of work like that, especially without operations experience ("how much does a plow sell for these days? And you have all this money to spend but can't look up plows or ask someone you know in the business? ). "I can handle the mowing, but no idea what to do in the winter" sounds like a troll out to steal money. But that's just my initial impression/opinion
FYI you can invest in my hot new business, we'll (I'll) make a killing selling widgets with you as my "special" investor. J/K :) I hope no one sends you any info because your "international sales experience" sales pitch didn't go over well the first time around. You are probably someone sitting in the penn trying to defraud citizens, hate all you trolls on ebay

Am I the only one that thinks this guy is a fraud troll? Seriously

[Livinglarge]

Not to run people off track with the threads most recent posts, but I am looking to get a hot tub set up here at the house and wondering if anyone knows of any old hot tubs that are unwanted. I can pickup tubs from houses and offering a small cash kickback. Thanks all

HHLawn, why did you leave int. sales? How much money do you have? It's nice to push snow on the clock as a sub, but the checks better come quick, too. Your post sounds like a "get rich quick" sceme. Nobody just comes up with a ton of work like that, especially without operations experience ("how much does a plow sell for these days? And you have all this money to spend but can't look up plows or ask someone you know in the business? ). "I can handle the mowing, but no idea what to do in the winter" sounds like a troll out to steal money. But that's just my initial impression/opinion
FYI you can invest in my hot new business, we'll (I'll) make a killing selling widgets with you as my "special" investor. J/K :) I hope no one sends you any info because your "international sales experience" sales pitch didn't go over well the first time around. You are probably someone sitting in the penn trying to defraud citizens, hate all you trolls on ebay

Am I the only one that thinks this guy is a fraud troll? Seriously



DOES ANYONE HAVE SOME POPCORN? THIS COULD GET INTERESTING!

[hhlawn]

Not to run people off track with the threads most recent posts, but I am looking to get a hot tub set up here at the house and wondering if anyone knows of any old hot tubs that are unwanted. I can pickup tubs from houses and offering a small cash kickback. Thanks all

HHLawn, why did you leave int. sales? How much money do you have? It's nice to push snow on the clock as a sub, but the checks better come quick, too. Your post sounds like a "get rich quick" scheme. Nobody just comes up with a ton of work like that, especially without operations experience ("how much does a plow sell for these days? And you have all this money to spend but can't look up plows or ask someone you know in the business? ). "I can handle the mowing, but no idea what to do in the winter" sounds like a troll out to steal money. But that's just my initial impression/opinion
FYI you can invest in my hot new business, we'll (I'll) make a killing selling widgets with you as my "special" investor. J/K :) I hope no one sends you any info because your "international sales experience" sales pitch didn't go over well the first time around. You are probably someone sitting in the penn trying to defraud citizens, hate all you trolls on ebay

Am I the only one that thinks this guy is a fraud troll? Seriously
No scam. I got out of sales due to my son. He has medical needs and being out of the country is not where I need to be. So I got into what I thought was going to be temporary. So I started a LCO. I had an old friend that runs an property management company. So I hit him up for some business. He gave me a few bones to start off with. Then I got out and looked for some more business. I got 46 additional lawns in the next two weeks. Well after investing almost 17,000 in mowers and other equipment, I decided to turn this into a full time deal. So I incorporated my business and started to mow. Well after 1 month of mowing for the management company, the decided to give me all there business and get rid of the company they had been using for 4 years. Well that's 138 more lawns and three apartment complex's to mow weekly. So I hired 5 guys, and run 2.5 crews. This accounts brings in 18,575 a month and 6400 for the other lawns. Good start I would say. I am having no problem with the work load right now I usually take half Friday off. Oh yea did I mention my guys are at home by 6:00 P.M. I know that next year when I start the two new accounts I will be going crazy at first but if need be I will keep hiring. With my three big accounts it will keep me busy, but I promise I wont be pulling my hair out. Organization is a key. As far as the plowing goes. I did it back in college for two years. that was 10+ years ago. I have no real interest in doing the plowing, but I might have to make the investment if I can't find enough subs. This is not a scam I am not asking for any money at all. Hell i'll even consider paying at the start of the day. Hey if you are not interested, then no need to respond.

Don't doubt me I may be working on some of your customers.... :) J/k. I got all I need for now.

[DLS1]

No scam. I got out of sales due to my son. He has medical needs and being out of the country is not where I need to be. So I got into what I thought was going to be temporary. So I started a LCO. I had an old friend that runs an property management company. So I hit him up for some business. He gave me a few bones to start off with. Then I got out and looked for some more business. I got 46 additional lawns in the next two weeks. Well after investing almost 17,000 in mowers and other equipment, I decided to turn this into a full time deal. So I incorporated my business and started to mow. Well after 1 month of mowing for the management company, the decided to give me all there business and get rid of the company they had been using for 4 years. Well that's 138 more lawns and three apartment complex's to mow weekly. So I hired 5 guys, and run 2.5 crews. This accounts brings in 18,575 a month and 6400 for the other lawns. Good start I would say. I am having no problem with the work load right now I usually take half Friday off. Oh yea did I mention my guys are at home by 6:00 P.M. I know that next year when I start the two new accounts I will be going crazy at first but if need be I will keep hiring. With my three big accounts it will keep me busy, but I promise I wont be pulling my hair out. Organization is a key. As far as the plowing goes. I did it back in college for two years. that was 10+ years ago. I have no real interest in doing the plowing, but I might have to make the investment if I can't find enough subs. This is not a scam I am not asking for any money at all. Hell i'll even consider paying at the start of the day. Hey if you are not interested, then no need to respond.

Don't doubt me I may be working on some of your customers.... :) J/k. I got all I need for now.

Having a property management friend is one way of getting lawns fast. You better hope he doesn't get out of the property management business or your accounts may go to another friend of the next property manager. I am glad I am still with residential accounts so all my eggs are not in just a few accounts that I could loose any time. Good luck.

[capitallandscapes]

If anyone is interested in doing some renovations for me call 913.207.4531. We are 3 weeks out and trying to get everyone taken care of. Must have proof of insurance and own equipment. Most of the work is in south O.P.

Thanks,
Brad Shepherd

[PGA]

Does anyone have a local company they use making their signs for leaving in yards after fertilizing? I cant find anyone in KC that does it.

[KCLandscape]

Vital Signs on the SW Boulevard... Great service
Capital - it is really too ;ate to be attempting that...see what the weather does. I would be willing to take on a few, but I dont guarantee ANYTHING after 10/1. But I do have Ins and plenty of referrals plus all the equip...
Let me know...

[TLC Lawn Care]

Hello to all the KC LCO's from Jayhawk Country. I am looking at purchasing my first Scag. I found a '05 Turf Tiger w/ a 27 hp Liq Cool Kawa 61" cut in Wichita for $8K. I could not find anyone in our area that would cut me a deal on a year end clearance. For Scag owners, who has the best shop in our area for servicing. Smittys in Olathe impressed me when I demoed a unit but would not come down on pricing. I dont know anything about their servicing department. Thanks

[KCLandscape]

You realize there is another TLC dont you?
Dont want you getting in trouble.
Dont like Skag or Smittys

[Mowgli]

I am rewrite my contract for next year. I just want to know, how late into the season do you cut? Until the and of Oct, or until snow started to fall?
If you cut past Oct, what do you do w/ the leaves? i heard some local companies charge double for bagging the leave until late or the End of Oct. I just want to know what method is works best?
Also, What is a fair % to charge for late payment? I was thinking 5%.
Thank you.

[DLS1]

I am rewrite my contract for next year. I just want to know, how late into the season do you cut? Until the and of Oct, or until snow started to fall?
If you cut past Oct, what do you do w/ the leaves? i heard some local companies charge double for bagging the leave until late or the End of Oct. I just want to know what method is works best?
Also, What is a fair % to charge for late payment? I was thinking 5%.
Thank you.

I don't do contracts. I usually mow till the first week of December unless it snows. Last 3 weeks of season is usually leaf cleanup. I tried one year using a tarp to collect the leaves but that took way to long. Now I mulch the leaves as I mow. The last mowing is basically to mulch the leaves after blown to the center of the yard with the ztr or WB. The final step includes using the 21" with a bagger to collect as much as the mulched leaves as possble in the center of the yard.

[extremelawnandlandscape]

Would anyone care to share their rates for lawn care, that is done in Johnson county. I am just wondering what the going rates are right now. Want to start lawn care, but want to know what a fair rate to charge is first. Thanks!

[DLS1]

Would anyone care to share their rates for lawn care, that is done in Johnson county. I am just wondering what the going rates are right now. Want to start lawn care, but want to know what a fair rate to charge is first. Thanks!


Lets see your from Missouri so are you talking about Johnson County Kansas or Missouri?

[Bennett H&L]

Please read below: Mike Hardie is a close friend and a brother and we would like to post this for everyone to share and hope you can make it out....


Mike Hardie Fund

On October 16, 2005, Mike Hardie was in a serious ATV accident. Mike has suffered spinal cord damage resulting in permanent paralysis. Please help us raise money to help him and his fiancée Monica with the medical bills.
On Sat., Oct. 29th , please join us for a Benefit run. Sign-up starts at 12 noon at PJ’s. (See details Below)

On Nov. 6th, please join us for a Charity Poker Tournament & Silent Auction at PJ’s on Shawnee MIssion Pkwy.



Mike Hardie Benefit Run


Saturday, October 29th, 2005

Sign-up starts at 11 a.m. at PJ’s on Shawnee Mission Pkwy


ALL vehicles welcome!!!
Motorcycles, Mopeds, Cars, Trucks, Vans!!!

Run leaves PJ’s at 12 noon!

Run will stop at 3 bars and end at 5428 Metropolitan, where there will be entertainment & food from 5 pm to 8 pm.


$15 Donation per vehicle
$10 Donation per passenger
Everyone will receive 5 raffle tickets

Extra raffle tickets $1.00.


Mike & Monica’s lives were changed forever on Sunday, October 16th, when Mike was seriously injured in an ATV accident.

Please join his friends and family on this run to raise money to help Mike & Monica with their medical and household bills.

[Popper357]

I have a new Toro Dingo to use and if anyone would like a sub contractor for residential landscaping projects, please let me know. I can show up and do the hole digging, trenching, bush pulling, and moving stuff to save you renting a dingo for a day. My minimum charge is $75 (1.5hours) and I can get a lot done for that.

The dingo is tracked and does minimal to no damage to dry (must be dry)lawns, is 34.5 inches wide and I can get a concrete mixer, trencher, pallet forks and up to 30 inch auger bits.

I also do handyman work and have a power washer, airless paint sprayer, sanders and grinders, electrical, plumbing, and carpentry tools. I can wire outdoor (lighting, ponds, receptacles, gas grills) circuits, garage heaters, hot tubs, lights, switches and receptacles.
Also insulate attics and crawlspaces, install new storm doors and windows, build custom fit work benches and shelving.
If you'd like to sub out some jobs, let me know and we'll get a budget put together.
Winter is my slow season and I give discounts (pizza and a couple beers, sometimes)
Thanks
Ryan Odneal
PS. I provide a copy of my license and ins. upfront before any sub work.

[WeisChoice]

Jeff,

This is Jeff, WeisChoice Lawn Care & Property Mngt. I have clients from Northland to Oak Grove.

[DLS1]

I have a new Toro Dingo to use and if anyone would like a sub contractor for residential landscaping projects, please let me know. I can show up and do the hole digging, trenching, bush pulling, and moving stuff to save you renting a dingo for a day. My minimum charge is $75 (1.5hours) and I can get a lot done for that.

The dingo is tracked and does minimal to no damage to dry (must be dry)lawns, is 34.5 inches wide and I can get a concrete mixer, trencher, pallet forks and up to 30 inch auger bits.

I also do handyman work and have a power washer, airless paint sprayer, sanders and grinders, electrical, plumbing, and carpentry tools. I can wire outdoor (lighting, ponds, receptacles, gas grills) circuits, garage heaters, hot tubs, lights, switches and receptacles.
Also insulate attics and crawlspaces, install new storm doors and windows, build custom fit work benches and shelving.
If you'd like to sub out some jobs, let me know and we'll get a budget put together.
Winter is my slow season and I give discounts (pizza and a couple beers, sometimes)
Thanks
Ryan Odneal
PS. I provide a copy of my license and ins. upfront before any sub work.

You can do a lot for only 23 years old. Impressive. What area of KC area you in?

[bottlefed89]

Jeff, you must do a lot of driving. Where you mowing in Oak Grove??

[Popper357]

I live in Raytown. Pretty easy to get around town from here and I don't mind meeting and discussing projects free of charge.

I am new to the electrical stuff still, but I've done enough to know the basics. A good friend helped me get started with it this year. I have tons of things that need wired so I've been slowly gaining more knowledge by working on my own projects. I also have been studying hot tub repair and learned quite a bit about electrical and plumbing. This is the type of work I'd like to do this winter.
DLS1, what do you do in the winter?

[Envision]

Popper/Ryan;

When you posted about wanting a hot tub that one time I had just hauled one away to the dump the day before! It needed some TLC and a thermostat, other than that it would have been a good project for ya!

Tim.

[DLS1]

DLS1, what do you do in the winter?

This is a part-time business for me. I do mowing, fertilizing, bush/tree trimming, aeration and some landscape projects. No hardscapes since I don't have the time.

[Primecut]

Hello,
I need to sub-out a commercial snow removal in the brookside/plaza area. My original guy just quit on me. Please contact me soon if you are interested. Thank you.

[Popper357]

Primecut, sub your work to me. I haven't done much plowing but I can get you a fair deal and contract. And we are dependable. I'm partnering with Bottlefed (Jensen Service Co) this year to get into the snow plowing business. Bottlefed's very experienced and we want your business. Thanks
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