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Phishook
03-22-2003, 10:26 PM
Just hooked my first pond today. Went really smooth.

11'x16' tear shaped pond at the bottom of a 20' stream falling about 4 1/2'.

4.72 ton bolders
2.21 ton gravel for the bottom

is that about right?

Should I bump this up to a standard pond system or would a mini do the job? Definately going with the 3000 pump, because of the distance and incline.

Another thing is price. They were verry understanding that this would be my first one. I gave them a guestimate of $5,500-$6,500, and told them I would have a solid price by Tuesday.

They are suppling the top soil and the use of a bobcat if I need it.

Any opinions welcome! Even the ones that think I under bid it.

Alan
03-23-2003, 05:03 PM
I can't offer a lot of experience here, my only contact has been a Build-a-Pond day last fall. But at first thought I'd say you are light on rock. You will be using quite a bit of stuff in the 6-18" range and probably some larger for accent rocks.

I wish I had kept track of just how much rock went into the demo, but I do know there were several cubes of hand handleable stone and quite a few boulders around the falls and down the stream sides. It doesn't take a very big rock to weigh a hundred pounds and the big ones run of the tonnage quick.

One other factor is that you may find rocks that just don't "fit" anywhere. You may be able to keep them for another job but they still add up in the initial expense.

By all means though, keep us posted about how this goes. I'm hoping to get some ponds behind me this summer and be able to offer real information at some point.

Phishook
03-29-2003, 08:43 PM
Here is the place. This was taken one week ago. We started today, and expect to finish Wednesday.

Phishook
03-29-2003, 08:47 PM
Here is the place. Took this picture one week ago. We started today.

Phishook
03-30-2003, 10:54 PM
peeling the sod back.

Phishook
03-30-2003, 10:57 PM
The hole=14 hrs.
Look below Bob! OUCH, That was a close one! Hit the phone line, and missed the electric by only inches. Yes, we did ask the home owners to call and have the wires marked. The had them marked, but must have missed these. The closes thing markes was 30-40 feet away. Call your self! I'll never leave this up to the home owner again!

Phishook
03-30-2003, 11:01 PM
The falls and stream. One foot pool right before the last fall.
If it was up to me I would have dropped the biofalls down a foot so you wouldn't have the mound of dirt at the top.

Phishook
03-30-2003, 11:05 PM
installed the underliner and rubber liner. See what I mean, that dirt hill is only getting bigger.

wojo23323
03-31-2003, 04:32 PM
What did you do with all of the dirt you dug out of the hole? I see the one pic with the hole dug and no dirt anywhere. i thought you left the dirt onsite for the berm around the falls.

Phishook
04-11-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by wojo23323
What did you do with all of the dirt you dug out of the hole? I see the one pic with the hole dug and no dirt anywhere. i thought you left the dirt onsite for the berm around the falls.

We had a skidster to move the soil and this was a long drug out experience, so we piled the dirt from where the picture was taken ( a service area for farming) .

More pics.

Phishook
04-11-2003, 03:38 PM
Had to fix a leak on the far right of fall

Phishook
04-11-2003, 03:42 PM
Finished!!! Bid it at 56 hrs, took close to 65. Also I did run short on the boulders, had to get two yds. of 12-18" boulders to finish.

Henry
04-20-2003, 08:20 PM
Nice job. Is that the skimmer to the left of the falls or just some flat rocks?+

Phishook
04-29-2003, 01:52 AM
I guess that pic didn't load. Henry, that's just some flagstone so they can get close to the fish and have a seat.

Phishook
04-29-2003, 02:01 AM
rapids

Phishook
04-29-2003, 02:03 AM
flat fall

Phishook
04-29-2003, 02:04 AM
last fall of the stream

Phishook
04-29-2003, 02:08 AM
The skimmer is at the opp. end of the falls, under the fake plastic rock.:D

wojo23323
04-29-2003, 05:21 PM
Looks great!! I plan on doing my first one in my yard this summer. What would you reccommend using to dig the hole? Did you use a Bobcat for the entire hole or a combination of machinery? Thanks for your help.

Phishook
04-30-2003, 01:39 AM
Just a few good shovels. I just used the skidster to scrape the sod back and move the soil arround. It left too many ruts in the lawn. But, it was the home owners and he insisted we used it. Something smaller, like a dingo would be ideal for movinig the boulders and loosening the soil.

But if you dig the first one by hand you'll appreciate it when you're finished.

mdvaden
05-02-2003, 02:18 AM
Was that some kind of pre-fab waterfall at the top?

And were any of the rocks or falls mortared? Or is loose stacked with enough water to provide the falls?

Did you use a filter?

Our first experimental pond at the home has no filter, and stays crystal clear all year.

It does have a filter "system" in a way. The intake for the pump is under a small heap of pea gravel. The water is drawn in through the pea gravel, and then up.

Same basic system as some fish aquariums.

Phishook
05-03-2003, 01:48 AM
I used the Aquascape system. Check their web site, it ezplains it better than I could.

It's all natural rock and gravel. Mortar? No Just a faom sealant to direct the water.

Sean Adams
05-04-2003, 02:52 AM
Looks great Phishook! Aquascape Designs does have a great system!

Phishook
05-05-2003, 02:55 PM
Thanks Sean.

I've already recieved four calls asking for information.

I just wish the grass would slow down so I could say I had time.

Mike Bradbury
05-26-2003, 01:24 AM
How profitable? (anything else matter?)

Phishook
05-27-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Mike Bradbury
How profitable? (anything else matter?)

Verry!!! payup

What's nice is making profit from product mark-up.

DUSTYCEDAR
07-28-2003, 09:31 PM
nice pics are you going to plant around it?
as for price you now know how much time it took so you can charge youre hourely rate for the next one good job