Eric or others using 2 Blade System

[River Hill]

I am currently using the 2 blade system that Eric has talked about and love it. I have been using it since last fall. I do have one question however. I am in the Mid-Atlantic Region and normally cut grass at 3 Inches, it has been raining for the past few days and I am backed up on my lawns. How does the 2 blade system work on long damp grass or should I just use 1 High Lift Blade? I am just concerned about the grass clogging up. Also does anyone notice more grass stuck under the deck when using two baldes? When I say tall grass I mean 4 to 5 Inches, some may not consider that tall.<br>

[bridges]

So how does this two blade system work. What are the advantages of the two blades. do you have to clean your deck as much.<p>----------<br>Tony<br>

[lawnnut]

We use only one blade as Toro has a saddle the blades sit in.<br>We are in the Mid Atlantic area also.<br>Right now we have our chute raised and cutting with gator blades to reduce the clumps. But some lawns 5&quot; or better we are going over 3-4 times but are able to stay some where near current

[River Hill]

The advantages I have found using the two blade system are grass clippings are smaller, the grass stripes better, and I don't seem to get as many clumps of grass. I have never tried it in long damp grass however. I am using a Exmark 48&quot; Turf Tracer HP.

[DMC300]

USING THE DOUBLE BLADES WORKS GREAT,IT ACTUALLY REDUCES CLUMPING.IN WET CONDITIONS I SCRAPE MY DECK EVERY TIME I CHANGE BLADES.YOU'LL WANT TO KEEP THE DOUBLE BLADES UNDER ALL CONDITIONS.AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOUND.<p>----------<br>DON<br>LIANNES' MOWING

[bridges]

Can you use double blades with any mower. I have jd ztrack 54&quot; deck.

[Eric ELM]

Brians, I use the double blade setup all season long and have for 12 or more years. I originally put doubles on one day when it was raining and was supposed to keep raining all week. I have used them ever since in all conditions. It chops the clippings a lot smaller so they disappear. When it's wet, I clean out under the deck several times on one lawn, which helps keep the lawns more clump free. Once you try doubles, most never go back to singles. When it's very wet, I think a high lift and a regular blade works better than a gator in there. Double highlifts pull the motor down more, but will throw the clippings a long way. Try different combinations and see what works best for you. If anyone new hasn't seen the differance in a lawn, check out my clippings page.



[Edited by Eric ELM on 03-15-2001 at 02:40 AM]

[yardsmith]

so what have you found best, & which goes where? My thinking would be to put a gator on the bottom, & a hi-lift on top to throw it when chopped. Does that sound right?<p>----------<br>Smitty ô¿ô<br>

[bondlawn]

I just go in from cutting this evening and had to kneel at Eric's feet. I saw the double blade idea Sunday on your web site (the day I also found this site) and tried it today. Results were phenominal.

[Lee Homan]

I thought I heard a while back that there was an after market part being sold to keep the 2 blades in that X configuration.

[Bobby]

Are any of you double blading with a Walker? I tried it. Works great, but I had to bolt them together due to the design. I used a gator for a 36 Scag for the upper. It's a 42 deck. Overlaping blades are timed so the additional blades must be short. <p>----------<br>Bobby <br>Ft Lauderdale

[Getmow]

I am in the mid atlantic region alson. I am using the 2 balde set-up on my choppers (THANKS to Eric). I am presently using high lift on the bottom, gators on the top of the center and left, and another high lift at the discharge. The only time the grass clumps is if you don't clean under the deck. The motor does tend to slow a bit with all the high lifts but one pass usually does it.<br>

[little green guy]

hey does anyone know if the 2 blades will work in a older 48&quot; bobcat with a 12.5 hp kawi? The blade speed is not all that fast to begin with. I think it will work on the rest of my mowers though. I 'm going to try it when take my blades of to sherpen them fri. thanks

[Jason]

Yesterday I cut a lawn that was about 5&quot;. Used my 52&quot; Lazer Z with mulching kit. The grass was wet, and it clumped up pretty bad.<p>So tonight I pulled off the mulching kit, put the discharge chute back on, and installed double blades. <p>Sounds like a jet taking off. :) Can't wait to try it out.

[valhalla]

Lee in answer to your question, there was a past post about a part to keep a two blade configuration in a perfect 90 degree angle.<br>I checked with Exmark and they told me it was discontinued, I could only get separate<br>pieces of the whole package and it was designed for the Exmark Explorer and any other application would require some kind <br>of modification.....Brian <p>----------<br>Valhalla lawn and pool<br>

[valhalla]

Lee in answer to your question, there was a past post about a part to keep a two blade configuration in a perfect 90 degree angle.<br>I checked with Exmark and they told me it was discontinued, I could only get separate<br>pieces of the whole package and it was designed for the Exmark Explorer and any other application would require some kind <br>of modification.....Brian <p>----------<br>Valhalla lawn and pool<br>

[Likestomow]

Some friends and I are currently having a small fixture made to hold the blades at a perfect 90 degrees. We are ordering these from a local fabricating shop to outfit 5 Dixie Choppers.<p>If they work well I wouldn't mind making them available to anyone else who is interested.<p>roncapetz@netzero.net

[lawrence stone]

Has anybody double bladed a Toro?<p>I don't see how this can improve the oem<br>single blade setup. You just wear out spindle bearings fasters with the added weight.<br>

[John DiMartino]

I tried the double bladeson my DCxw2500,and I will use them all the time now,it really does a better job with them,less clipping clumps allowing you to go faster,I run a hi lift on bottom and gator on top.<p>----------<br>John D<br>

[Jason]

Eric,<p>Are you a god? I just got back from mowing in a steady rain. My Lazer with the double blades did an incredible job. No clumping, lawn looked bagged when I was done. The homeowner is having a party tomorrow and was very impressed with the quality of cut. She couldn't believe I could cut at all in the rain let alone make it look as nice as it did. I'm a firm believer in the double blade setup now. Thank you.

[Charles]

I was wondering too if the double blade set up would wear out the spindles faster and make the engine work harder. And too with the blades being expensive and sharpening time consuming. Wouldn't that be just more work and expense? Or does one set of the blades last longer this way? I want to try this set up. But with the profit margin the way it is. On the other hand if you just had to go over the high grass one time it might save money in the long run. Just trying to decide. Maybe I should just do it. Right now i am not having any complaints about grass clippings.

[paddy]

i run them on my 36 inch toro. i put the gator on the bottom, cause i have 4 sets of gators, one set of high lifts. the cut is great. it seems like the higher the grass, the better the striping. I cut 8-12 inch grass yesterday, and i didn't have to double cut. there were clippings visible, but no clumps. There is much less gunk collected under the deck with the double blades. i wanna try 2 gators, 2 high lifts, maybe 3 blades, but that would put the cut pretty low. The last guy mentioned profit margin and extra money spent on sharpening, blades, and maybe gas. If your running your business right, with high quality customers who pay well, and want good work from you, your profit margin should be comfortable-great. And I really don't think that the marginal expense of blades and sharpening is gonna affect your profits, they shouldn't be that thin. I think the double blades will enable me to get the good customers i want

[Charles]

Ok so I went out and put the extra blades on. Gator on top and high lifts on bottom. Did part of my yard. 1 and1/2 inches the blades cut into the ground on a small ditch area same as 1 and 3/4. The drag on my 23Kohler lazer seemed like way too much so I took them off. It really dragged when I first kicked the blades in. But is was wet outside and the part i cut looked good and the grass chopped up good. oh well. maybe I just need a more hp and cut higher

[Eric ELM]

A couple of you mentioned spindle wear because of the double blades. I have used double blades like I said before, for around 12 years now and I have never replaced a spindle bearing. The DC I run has 2,704 hours on it and every hour it's been run, it's had double blades on it. The main thing is keep them sharp and balanced and the spindles greased and you shouldn't have spindle bearing problems.<p>Jason: No I'm not a God, but I do like to try to make the job easier by trying different things. <p>Paddy: You mention trying double Gators, I've done that too, works nice on chopping leaves, but you don't get enough lift with them for cutting grass. They might work OK on your machine though. I have even used double Highlifts. You can throw clippings for many feet with them, but it will pull the heck out of an engine.<p>Charles: The 23 Kohler should have plenty of power for double blades. I run them on a 20HP and a 22HP Kohler and 60&quot; decks. One reason you seem to be cutting lower is, the bottom blade will cut 1/4 inch lower, plus you have a lot more lift too, to pull the grass up to get cut off. Raise the deck up a bit.<p>If I missed anyones question, sorry, I'll try later. Happy Mowing :)

[Edited by Eric ELM on 03-15-2001 at 02:41 AM]

[crew]

Am using the 2 blade set up on 23 hp lazer and it is truly remarkable. However, if you hit anything( a rock for example!!!) the blades are a real sob to get off. Im real interested in a device to keep the blades perpendicular. Im also going to but my deflector back on because the thing is discharging clippings over 2 rows-10+ feet!

[Dingo]

I have been following this topic for awhile and was wondering if i go with the double blades ob my lazer would i want to leave the mulching kit on or should a put the shute back on? Also do you guys think that 19hp kaw is strong enough to run doubles?<br>thanks for all the help guy<br>Dingo

[Jason]

Dingo,<p>You should be fine with your 19hp. My 52&quot; Lazer has the 18 hp Kohler. If it isn't warmed up when I engage the blades it'll kill the motor. It'll also kill motor unless I have it at full throttle before I engage. It really drags the motor down to engage the blades. But in a second or two, it's running wide open and fine.<p>I removed my mulching kit when I went to double blades. But I'm still experimenting with different combos.

[Eric ELM]

Dingo, My 20 HP Kohler will run them on a 60&quot; deck, so a 19 HP should do it too. I'm guessing you have a smaller deck with a 19 HP. I use an open chute on mine, but the clippings come out like they have been mulched.<p>Crew, a device to keep the blades perpendicular will also tighten up the blades if you hit something solid. I feel your better off without one, this way there is some give in the setup if you do hit something solid. <p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townserver.com/elm/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[DTM65]

What if you tack weld the blades together to keep them at an X pattern? (Assuming you never want to go back to single blade mowing.)<p><p>----------<br>D. Tom<br>

[Eric ELM]

D Tom, That was my theory back in 88 when I first tryed it on my JD 50&quot;. It made it harder to sharpen them for one thing and I was mowing an empty lot and hit a rock and the blade broke off where the weld was. It will weaken them. I'm just glad it didn't happen around people and I was very lucky. Take it from me, Don't Weld them. It is so rare that they move. All you have to do is loosen the bolt and adjust them. It's not that big of a deal re-adjust them.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townserver.com/elm/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<p>

[Alan]

Been there too, Eric. I welded up crosses for my JD taht I use with a bagger for leaf cleanup. Thought that 7018 and preheat would hold up, I was wrong. Hit something and two fo the three crosses came apart violently. Tell ya what, when you take half a blade off clean things REALLY start to shake.

[Eric ELM]

Alan, talk about a blade that's out of balance!! I only lost one piece of a blade that ended up under the deck, but it could have been bad if it flew out. It was scary enough so I didn't do any more blade welding.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townserver.com/elm/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[Grassboy]

WAIT A SECOND.<p>Charles, You were cutting at 1 and 1/2 in.?????? that's like golf course height. What kind of grass r u cutting/ what region of the world? I live in Northern Ohio by Clevland, I cut almost everyone at 3&quot;, will the double blades work good for mowing at this height Eric? Should I tighten them as tight as possible? And How thourghly and often do you have to clean under the deck w/ this double blade setup?

[crew]

I am in MN and cut most at 3&quot; as well. The set up works great. As far as cleaning the deck, I wish I would have been a little more concientious. There is now some seriuos build up on my deck as well as blades. It going to be a ***** to get clean.<br>I'm not so sure that keeping the blades perpendicular would not deacrease the tightness after hitting something. When it happened to me,the blades twisted so far from square that the bend on the mulching blade was almost like a spring washer. But I bow to the sensei and will not sweat this.

[Grassboy]

Hey Crew,<p>Use a power washer (on a low setting so it doesn't hurt your deck) to take the grass off the bottom of your deck.

[Eric ELM]

Grassboy, I don't cut any lawns a 1.5&quot;, so I can't tell you how it works on that. The lowest I cut is 2.5&quot; and it's fine at that highth. We have a few older couples that insist on it being short, I guess they think they are getting more for their money. Most of our lawns are cut at 3&quot; or more during the summer and bring them down to 2.5&quot; in the fall. Just tighten the doubles up just like you would a single blade and you should be fine.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townserver.com/elm/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[EDL]

Doe any of you use longer bolts to hold on the double blades of do you use the stock bolts.<br>

[paddy]

how could you use larger bolts? i'm not taking a drill to my spindle. OIC, i'm kinda dumb, i could erase that, but i won't to show my train of thought. I don't use longer bolts, but I do use one less washer up top, the 4th washer did fit, but i prefer only 3 up top, and none below

[JB1]

I'm a believer.After reading the posts, I went out and tried it on a grasshopper used two gator blades all i had, it was awsome, i put it down low to try it and mowed through foot high grass with good results. Good idea.<p>thanks

[Alan]

Well,, the Lazer hit the turf for the first time today. With two blades per spindle as well. I'm a believer! Used an Exmark mulcher as the top blade and a high lift on the bottom. Got into some high and heavy stuff that was a bit damp, no problem. 25 Kohler got into the governor a little but that was all. I'll get some gators to try up top next, gotta order them, nobody here stocks them.

[Davis TLC]

I began using double blades last fall when I was shredding leaves and mowing what little grass we had growing after the drought last fall. I love them. When I bought my Dixie Chopper this spring I got a set of gators and hi-lift blades while I was there. Been running double blades on it for past 2 weeks, really makes a difference in the way the lawn looks. Thanks Eric, for the info on the double blades.<br><p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townserver.com/dtlc/&quot;&gt;Rich@Davis Total Lawn Care&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[Doug406]

in regaurds to toro and others, should i cut a notch out of the cradle to fit another blade? This would create the perpindicular thing some of you are speaking of.

[Grassboy]

Hey Alan what kind of Exmark do you have? Did you have any problems fitting the two blades onto one bolt?? Keep me updated on how it's working for you, if you have any problems, and if you find a really good combo of blades. I really don't want to ruin my spindles on my Exmark Lazer Hp 48&quot; 21 hp kaw. I have seen on this post that a lot of people have liked this setup, but most of them own Dixie Choppers.

[Grassboy]

Hey Alan what kind of Exmark do you have? Did you have any problems fitting the two blades onto one bolt?? Keep me updated on how it's working for you, if you have any problems, and if you find a really good combo of blades. I really don't want to ruin my spindles on my Exmark Lazer Hp 48&quot; 21 hp kaw. I have seen on this post that a lot of people have liked this setup, but most of them own Dixie Choppers.

[Grassboy]

HEY ERIC,<p>Have you heard about anybody trying this double blade thing on my model of Exmark?(It's in my last post) Also, should I put a washer between them or add anything other than one extra blade to spindle??? I want to be absolutely sure before doing this because I don't want a blade going into one of the kids in my neighborhood because it flew off the mower. That definitely wouldn't be good for a business. LOL

[Alan]

Grassboy, like I said in my post, Lazer. 60&quot;, 25 Kohler. I did go to bolts slightly longer to accomodate the extra blade, had to cut some to the right length, didn't have any that would do in stock lengths. And I wish someone would explain to me just how they figure any extra load on the spindle. Stone made some half cocked comment about thrust loads being greater (has to be thrust load, he was concerned about the weight). As far as radial load, since the blades are in balance no matter how they are positioned to each other, why should that make a difference? Maybe a bit of extra load (thrust) from the two sets of lift wings but that would be about it. And how is the extra blade going to fly off your mower?

[pete]

Alan, <br>My thoughts would be that some how you are incresing the moment on the spindle by adding another blade. Im working on my degree in civil engineeing, i have to take statics but thank god not dynamics ( if i had to use dynamics we'd have big problems) so i cant really say what is going on. It seems to me that the mower was designed to have 1 blade, by adding another one it would seem to add more stress to the machine. It seems that you would be detereorating the machine some, how much is a question of how overbuilt the spindle is. I think that most machines would be able to handle this added load, and the only problems will be with motors not having enough ass to keep the tip speed up in high grass. I have been curious about the 2 blade system and im going to try it when i get back home for summer. Im also going to go talk to some of my ME freinds and see if they have any thing to say. Hope i made some sense in all that rambleing.

[Jason]

Grassboy,<p>My 52&quot; Lazer I believe has the same spindles as the 44&quot; and 48&quot; decks. And I use the stock bolts. You don't need longer ones. Just torque them down according to the book and you'll be fine.

[Charles]

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[Charles]

Grassboy. theres a big world outside Clevelend. You should try and see it sometime lol. I live in the south carolina. The ground temps are much warmer here most of the time. Alot of people plant Centipeed. Centipeed looks good at 1/1/2&quot;. Alot of answers in this forum do not apply to the country as a whole. Now using 2 blades on my lazer even a 2&quot; cuts into the ground on slight inclines. So I went back to gator blades and am just cutting inward and chopping up the grass and that looks good too. Now I cut fescue and zoysia and st augustine, bermuda, 2&quot; to 3&quot;. The grass grows so fast here that you better cut it a little shorter or people will complain

[lawrence stone]

Alan wrote:<p>&gt;Stone made some half cocked comment about thrust loads being greater (has to be thrust load, he was concerned about the weight). <p>Sorry I made no such statement.<p>But I offer the following concerning the<br>double blade nonsence.<p>1. If you need to put two blades on your mower you should go out and buy a real piece of equipment instead of the poorly designed<br>machine you are using now.<p>2. Any time you modify a machine you are exposing yourself to severe liability.<p>Have any of you double bladers discussed this<br>matter with your counsel?

[Ssouth]

As far as bolts. I started using the two blade system almost a month ago. I went to a fastener shop and got bolts 1/2&quot; longer just to be safe. No problems. Personally, I think you should get bolts that compensate for the added blade.( only seems reasonable) Three bolts only cost $2.50.Better safe than sorry.

[Alan]

Oh well,, we can't all have beat up old Toros that we need to carry spare parts for. And I don't mow for any lawyers, and I doubt they would appreciate the finer points of mowing anyhow.

[lawrence stone]

Alan wrote:<p>&gt;Oh well,, we can't all have beat up old Toros that we need to carry spare parts for. <p>No most contractors have to buy new machines and take them to the dealer (rip off).<p>But this is the kind of reply I would expect from someone who on his best day can only<br>make $40 per hour.<p>Most scrubs in my area make more than that per hour cutting senior citizens lawns for <br>cash with a 21&quot; MTD.

[Grassboy]

Lawrence stone,<p>Don't down those little scrubs, I used to be one of them. Well........ I guess I still am, only with a lot bigger equiptment.LOL

[Jason]

. Any time you modify a machine you are exposing yourself to severe<br> liability.<br>Stone. I love it! You hit it on the head! Yes , exactly you are exposing yourself to liablitity. Every time that an enthusiasist's bike runs down the quarter, with their 80 cube harley, they are open for litigation. From the ported and polished head, reshaped combustion chamber, secret ground cam, and overbore block, May I possibly mention the stroker crank! Of course it's fun to modify, yes I know we are talking mowers here,not full bore quater mile machines. But humor me here. Just had to blow off some steam, I do miss my big block Torino.

[Alan]

Well, Mr. Stone, if I'm a &quot;scrub&quot; I guess I'm content to be that way. I think I prefer being an old hick country scrub to being one of those know it alls from the big city. The first time you responded to anything I posted you displayed quite a large dose of pompous, exactly what I would expect from reading stuff you have posted. There is a lot of knowledge to be shared here, but from what I can see you talk quite a lot but say very little. It's also rather interesting that you keep your e-mail address &quot;private&quot;, I guess that says quite a lot as well.<br>

[MRPLOW]

Ok here in Cleveland the grass is growing like crazy, so I was desperate to try something new on my 52 stander. First I used all regular with a high lift on the bottom at the discharge, the results were ok, it left a strip of grass at the discharge, but the clippings were definetly reduced. So next I took the high lift blade off and just used all regular blades and presto the results were great, I am now a believer. Just one question is it nescessary to keep the top set of blades as sharp as the bottom?

[Eric ELM]

Mr. Plow, You don't need to sharpen the top blades each time. I'm glad you like the way it mows. Right now we need all the help we can get with all this rain we are finally getting. That, along with the grass seeding, makes for a lot of clippings to make disappear. Good Luck.<br><p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[EDL]

I have added gatorblades to the high lift blades on my lazer, I have the mulching kit on it, and the blades bog down a lot in tall grass, i have a 23hp kohler should i take the mulch kit off,

[Eric ELM]

EDL, It might be worth a try to take it off. The way the grass is growing here in the north, we need all the help we can get. Good luck.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[Eric ELM]

Some of the new guys were asking about double blades, so I though I'd bring up this discussion on doubles. BTW, I got a set of the Brackets to hold the blades in an + formation for my new Chopper and so far I like it. It isn't necessary, but thought I'd give it a try.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>The Grass is always Greener on the other side of my competitors fence

[Turf Cutters]

Eric, did you have to remove any spacers when you installed the blade brackets? I just brought mine and it looks like I will be cutting at least a 1/4&quot; lower.

[Eric ELM]

Turfcutter, Yes, I took out the 1/2 inch spacer. This will give you a 1/4&quot; higher cut than you had before you put them on.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>The Grass is always Greener on the other side of my competitors fence

[Blackhawk Lawn Care]

Where does one get a set of the X brackets to hold the blades at the 90 degree angle. We are currently running a Hopper G2/61&quot; deck and a JD 54&quot; W/B. Would love to get the double blade set up on both machines.<p>For the record, Has anyone heard of, or tried the MEGMOW system. Uses the same principle of the dual blades, except that it is a giant disk with 4 smaller swing blades, similiar to a brush hog style blade. I believe the website for this company is www.megmow.com, I know they will be in Louisville this year.

[Eric ELM]

Blackhawk: I know Dixie Chopper sells a bracket, but I ran double blades for the past 12 years without one. If you hit something, the blades will move, but it's not a big deal to loosen the bolt and fix it. I am trying this bracket from DC now on my new Chopper and so far I do like it. I don't have to worry about them moving, but it's not something you have to have to try the 2 blade system. DC also has blades that have a 3 3/8&quot; wide area that is raised to accept another blade so all 4 tips are cutting at the same time, but it doesn't work any better than just putting 2 other blades on the same bolt. I hope this helps. I just posted this on the other question on 2 blades, check out that post also.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>The Grass is always Greener on the other side of my competitors fence

[Blackhawk Lawn Care]

Eric, Thanks...<p>I switched my Hopper over this morning, we ran for about eight hours with it, The qualitity of the cut was far better then I expected. Plus we were able to get out cutting about an hour earlier then I expected. The noise level is a bit louder, but with hearing protection, you dont even notice it. <p>I added 222 loc tight between the blades, and rechecked the squareness after eight hours of solid cutting, didnt even move. I torqued the bolts to factory spec of 55 FT LBS. I am a believer... Thanks

[Jerrys Lawn Service]

Eric, I have three words for you OH MY GOD!<br>We tried a high lift blade on the bottom<br>and a Gator Magnum on top today on our<br>Snapper 52 inch hydro walkbehind, it was great,one pass and your done.One more added<br>bonus was the stripeing, it was much more<br>intense! Next I going to try it on our Turf<br>Tiger, I'll have to let you know what happens.<p>Thanks again!<p>Thanks again! <br>stripeing was much more intense!

[Eric ELM]

Jerry: I'm glad this worked out for you. I get email all the time thanking me for letting them know about the double blades. Does your lawns look sort of like this?<br>&lt;img src = http://elms.bizland.com/pierce.jpg&gt;<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>

[Guido]

Eric, your such a showoff!!! LOL Those are intense for the least, looks almost like a painting, great Job!!<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://communities.msn.com/guidosequipmentpics/&quot;&gt;&quot;Guido&quot;&lt;/a&gt;<br>David M. Famiglietti

[Eric ELM]

Dave: I just had to sneak in a picture of a lawn I mowed Thursday with my new Chopper. It was late last night when I posted it, so it was a brief post. I got this Chopper with the stripping kit and it seems to do a decent job. I don't want to clutter this forum with pictures, so I have a picture of the stripping kit on the stripping page on my website, if anyone wants to see what it looks like. I will add more pictures to my website when I get some more time. <p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>