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jsaunders
04-18-2003, 05:04 PM
Went and looked at a customers new house that they just bought during the winter and thay want a price to mulch/edge and do a spring clean up. I was there for 25 mins just measuring:eek: Edging: 1,155 linear ft. Mulch: 8,300sqft:eek: = 77 yrds @3'' 1,100 sqft has gound cover so I doubled the spread rate
Now the good news:rolleyes: - NO dumping on the drive way- small rock pebbles, no tractors, wheel barrows only ( lots of wheel barrows)
I have never seen so many beds on maybe an acre of land. Now I was thinking of renting a bed edger to make quick work of the edging. I can pick up the hemlock blend for $22 per yard. What are your thoughs on pricing. Thanks Joel

BRL
04-18-2003, 05:47 PM
I did a commercial site with a Brown bed edger. Multiple beds & tree rings that was 880 linear feet. It was 6 man hours including pick up\drop off of rental, and hand edging some areas that the machine couldn't do. I figure roughly 3 yds of mulch\ man hour if wheel barrowing all over the place, more if you can get close to the beds. For that job, I would highly recommend finding a company with a mulch blower & sub the mulch part of the job to them. They will be in and out in a few hours with no wheel barrow ruts, no raking, no mess. Also because the blown mulch is more efficient, most times they use less mulch than hand spreading, so they might get the whole job with 1-60 yd load. I would have them do that one load, then if it's not enough, make sure they start with the furthest beds, so if you do have to bring some more, you will be wheel barrowing to the closest, easiest beds.

" 1,100 sqft has gound cover so I doubled the spread rate"
I'm not sure what you mean by that part.

ksland
04-18-2003, 07:38 PM
6 g's

ParkerLawn
04-18-2003, 10:13 PM
I would estiamte the job at $5000 from the figures you gave but as always it is hard to give estimates for sites unseen but this is my figure from info provided.

Little Guy
04-18-2003, 11:50 PM
No less than $8,000 including mulch, application of mulch and edging. 10,000 - 11,500 if it is more difficult to lay the mulch than you average job. Throw in some preen or something to help them feel like they are getting more for the $!

Hope it helps!


Little Guy!:blob2:

GarPA
04-19-2003, 05:40 AM
rough estimate between 7k and 8k. I cant imagine a homeowner and I dont care how much money they have spending that kind of money on mulch. Like said above, see if you can find someone to blow it in might be better ...I also dont know what you mean by doubling the rate on the ground cover??

And for sure rent the bed edger to increase your profit margin.should be able to rent one for about $70 a day...

Ssouth
04-19-2003, 02:45 PM
If the mulch could be dumped on the street, you could still use the tractor to load wheelbarrows. For larger mulch jobs we use 3-4 people. Four is best. One loading mulch into 3 wheelbarrows at a time. It's very efficient because nobody gets tired. You should be in and out in a day easily.

PRapoza451
04-19-2003, 09:50 PM
Why are you calculating at 3". We've always used 2". That would be 51 yards. I'd say $3570.00 to purchase and spread the 51 yards and $400.00 to edge with a Brown bed edger.
What do you mean doubling it up for ground cover? Are you trying to kill the ground cover? If so why not Roundup it. One application at $95.00 should do it and save labor and mulch. Can't estimate the cleanup without seeing it.
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Paul

landscaper3
04-20-2003, 01:50 AM
At 8300sqft on the mulch calculator its 52 yards at a 2" trigger depth and 77 yards at 3" trigger depth, We can edge up to 100ft per minute (edging only) With our Walker bed edger, (if open area and can go without too many obsticals) 1 hr x2employees picking up sod cut. Cost of job, fuel, employees, mulch @ $1,322 say $1,400.00 . .35cents per edged foot 1550 $ 544.25 plus $75.00 to haul away, Mulch $60 per yard (black) at 52 yards $3,120.00 installed and approx $300.00 in unseen factors. $4,039.25 with approx $1,400 invested. This is for 2" bid and 3" bid would run around $5,539.25. We get 4-5 trailer truck loads of Dark mulch at $1040.00 for 64 Yards! Take into factor no weeding is priced in this bid, its for only the above,

jsaunders
04-20-2003, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the replies. The "Double up" part for the ground cover was worded wrong- 1100 sqft normally 11 yrds @ 3'' but with the ground cover I figured inly 5.5 yrds of mulch to cover / fill in the sparce areas. I will look into a company that can blow in the mulch, but I'm not sure if the blower hoses are long enough for the area. I'll just have to find out.
The price that I can up with was alittle over $5,000. Joel

fblandscape
04-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Why would you want to put mulch in where there is ground cover????

ParkerLawn
04-20-2003, 11:07 PM
I always fill in sparse areas to make the appearance look better. Most ground cover has empty spots or sparse spots that if you cover with mulch throughout give it a much more professionally done job look. It is the small things like this in a job that make a difference.

fblandscape
04-20-2003, 11:28 PM
But by placing mulch in there, you hurt the rooting environment for the ground cover to fill in.

BRL
04-21-2003, 02:10 AM
The mulch blowing truck I hired can go 150 yards from the truck. Should be able to reach most residential jobs?

ParkerLawn
04-21-2003, 09:06 AM
Fblandscape, that is completely untrue. If you put down an excessive amount to where it will smother the roots, than it might, but filling in sparse spaces there is so little mulch it can't do any harm. I have 1 house that I have been doing for 4 years and we mulch it about 3 times every year. The have a huge front area of ivy and we fill it with mulch and it has done nothing but continue to grow. Some groundcovers as phlox, etc of this nature I wouldn't put mulch on but you have to know what you can can't do. Our mulch here is also mix with compost so it is actually fairly healthy.

Paradise Landscapes
11-10-2003, 01:01 AM
8,300 SqFt @3" deep = 77 yards?

I'm bidding on a job that is mulching at 10,094 SqFt. I want 2" deep,
I am using .25 (3") on calculator for ballpark figure. It teels me 25 yards at 3" deep. No weeds! I haul away edgings, that's 1200 linear feet.

Mowing, 33,601 SqFt @ $100.80 per cut (take 33,601 x .003)
This includes trimmng and blowing.

P.S. This job is 33 miles away from me. How should I charge those prices for a doctors' building?

Groundcover Solutions
11-10-2003, 01:13 PM
As for mulch blowing, If it needs mulch then they can reach it. standerd truck holds around 300ft of hose but they can always bring more in. it may take longer if the beds are further away, because of more clogs in the hoses. but if it is really that far away then i don't think you would want to do all of it by hand!

dvmcmrhp52
11-10-2003, 08:07 PM
Paradise landscapes.........10,000 sq.ft. comes out to 93 yards at 3 inches deep, 62 yards at 2 inches. Sure hope you don't get that job the way you just figured it.

j saunders......5000.00 at 3 inches.