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llama
05-10-2003, 08:31 AM
What is the best way to rid a yard of clover. It seems to be taking over the lawns in my area.

TheGrassGuy
05-10-2003, 08:57 AM
Mecoprop is normally what is used around here to control clover, but is usually mixed with 2-4D and dicamba. I have a lot of people asking me to seed some clover into their lawns because chinch bugs don't feed on clover.

Gene $immons
05-10-2003, 09:25 AM
Try a product called "Confront" - Lesco sells a brand called "momentum" that also works well on clover.

Richard Martin
05-10-2003, 12:32 PM
Virtually any weed and feed will get rid of clover fast. Are you sure it's clover and not oxalis? Oxalis is difficult to remove with weed and feeds.

KenH
05-10-2003, 09:54 PM
Spray is most effective onthe small clover leaves. Granulars are useless.

LAWNGODFATHER
05-11-2003, 01:18 AM
Millennium is another one that will knock down the clover.

I think its Trimec Plus that will too.

Strike 3 also has dicamba and mecoprop and will knock out the clover.

rkk95
05-11-2003, 08:19 AM
grass guy it seems kind of odd to me that someone would seed clover in their lawn to protect from chinch bugs, why don't you treat with insecticide?

TheGrassGuy
05-11-2003, 01:50 PM
RKK95
Most are treated with insecticide - those who ask for the clover do not want the insecticide. Different reasons for this - kids, shallow wells, pets, etc. It does not "protect" the lawn but the clover is still green when the chinch bugs are finished with the bluegrass.

Hamons
05-11-2003, 10:56 PM
I've had great luck this year with Speedzone killing the clover in my yards.

Chris Wagner
05-13-2003, 07:19 PM
Clover is almost always green... not good for a very high maintenance turf, but it's less unsightly than some of the other weeds.

When cut, clover supposedly carries quite a bit of nitrogen when it breaks down.

mr.lawnzap
05-13-2003, 07:44 PM
clover is a nuisance weed here, i use momentum on it. i personaly think trimec plus is overated, youd be better off adding your own msma to a mixture so that its more powerful. the other trimec in the mix is just wasted if you spraying crabgrass or other grassy weeds. momentum is the way to go with clover .

Gene $immons
05-13-2003, 08:24 PM
I sprayed a fescue lawn a week ago that had white clover Big time. I used Momentum for the first time and it worked excellent. I only used around .75 oz per gallon of water. It was also less expensive than Confront.

LAWNGODFATHER
05-13-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Gene Simmons
It was also less expensive than Confront.

It costs more than Confront.......

It has confront in it, once you take out enough Confront to make a gallon, you will be paying ruffly $120 a gallon for Confront.

Then you are also paying for Lesco 3 way braod leaf.

I agree Trimec plus is a waste of money, I would rather s[ray Drive 75 or Manage and actually not harm the surrounding turf.

Spraying 2,4-D on carbgrass or Nutsedge is a waste.

2,4-D will kill clover, if you read the label you have to mix it stronger than for a dandilion.

Grassmechanic
05-20-2003, 10:04 AM
There was at one time a product called "2+2". It was 2,4-D and MCPP. It was made I believe by Diamond Shamrock (how's that for dating one's self!). Worked great on clover. Same as Trimec, but without dicamba, which can cause health problems for ornamentals if used near their rootzones. I haven't seen it around for 5-8 years, but I haven't really looked for it since using Millenium. I may have to look for it again if problems with clopyralid persistence in compost is not resolved, but that's another problem...

Mike

turf78
05-20-2003, 02:11 PM
Lesco Momentum is: 3 to 4 pints/A. Cost around $33.00 a gallon

50.7% 2,4-D
3.8% Triclopyr
1.3% Clopyrlid

Confront is: 1 to 2 pints/A. Cost around $119.00 a gallon

33.0% Triclopyr
12.1% Clorpyalid


Both are good products. Momentum is great on clover at a lower cost and very low odor.

Gene $immons
05-21-2003, 07:35 PM
Thanks for doing the math turf78. Momentum is cheaper.