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madupz20
05-28-2003, 02:16 PM
Aside from the Price, tell me what you all think. I have heard the speil about the "price wars", but I want business. And Im not looking for 30+ clients. Rhody does just fine in terms of professionals.

LAWNGODFATHER
05-30-2003, 12:53 AM
The guy is ugly.

Lawn mowing is 2 words

You will mulch my whole lawn for $25?
PS My lawn takes 10 yards of mulch.

Be more specific.

Mowing Trim n Blow lawn

$10?

"free estimate" or "Call for a bid"

Let it Grow
05-30-2003, 03:20 AM
I agree with LAWNGODFATHER. Also by advertising that you are a college student it makes it seem like you are just in it for a quick buck. Most people will probably call because they think they will be able to get you to do their lawn for next to nothing. I'd get a business name an put it on the flier instead.
I hope it goes well.

mr.lawnzap
05-30-2003, 03:48 AM
im glad you dont work in my town! 10$$ to mow,trim,blow your gonna lose money doin it that cheap but obviously you dont realize how expensive it will get for you. you should re-think everything your doing and yes the little guy is ugly. why cut your profits so short? at least charge an average price. people like you are bad for our trade, if your customers are smart thell hire a pro with some common sense. hell youd make more money working for someone else than with those prices!!

madupz20
05-30-2003, 03:40 PM
Ha-ha. Ok maybe your right about the guy being ugly, but I'm all set with the advice now. I placed the flyers in churches, and a few other select high traffic places. I have 15 lawns lined up. PS That was in less than one week's time. About the whole $10-25. Haven't you heard of bait and switch? In response to you zap, You saw the $10 and jumped out of your tree. In Rhode Island, most peoples yards are 500< sq. ft. Especially in the area that I live. You couldn't differentiate between $10 and $25. You can STFU about how I hurt your lawn business in Tulsa. Its called free enterprise for a reason. I'm going to get business. I use a $150 lawn mower, which is financed for less than $7 a month. If I keep these 15 customers alone I will make out this summer like a bandit. Thanks for the dick-headed remarks, and good luck down there in good ole' OK. O.K.?

mr.lawnzap
05-30-2003, 08:56 PM
your welcome scrub.

gogetter
05-30-2003, 09:06 PM
You've got some real balls dude! You come on to a site full of proffesionals and ask us what we think of your SCRUB (and I don't use that word lightly) operation!?!?!

Then you BRAG about your "bait and switch" tactics?!?! What a joke!

Let it Grow
05-30-2003, 09:13 PM
I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just trying to help. If you keep the attitude you have, you will be sick of mowing lawns, and your customers will not like you by the end of the summer. It sounds like you plan on screwing some people over but you gotta remember that they ca screw you back just as easy. Be honest, do good work, treat your customers right, and you'll have a business that you can be proud of.

louislawncare
05-30-2003, 11:03 PM
Wow,
Your definately on your way, you got it figured out, good job, but why you asking for our opinions when you throw **** back at us when we tell you the truth. One problem I have with your
operation is the financing for $150.00. What idiotic bank gave you a loan for $150.00? You shouldhave walked along the roadside and collected aluminum cans for a day or two and you would have been able to come up with that much money.

Other problem I have is you advertising your scheming buisness in local churches. For as Jesus said "My fathers house will be a place for worship, not a den of theives". As you have clearly sinned in the eyes of the lord, "Bait and Switch". May the lord have mercy on your soul Matthew and I do hope you will think of this next time you come up with a scheme like this.

Rustic Goat
05-31-2003, 05:41 AM
Did you say how old you are, physically I mean, we can tell your mental attitude by your remarks.
I ask, because your flyer looks like it's for someone that just started Jr High, and I wouldn't hire that punk to clean out the dog pen. The picture just looks like it's saying "I'm just a dumb kid trying to squeeze you out of a few bucks, and I could care less about the quality of the work that I do cause I sure don't care how I look.

Your attitude follows through on your remarks to replies that you asked for.
Grow up, this ain't Mayberry!

You really should consider working at a car dealership with the attitude that you have. That is a serious suggestion, take it please.

a1 lawncare
05-31-2003, 02:17 PM
hope ya'll got a dental plan

madupz20
05-31-2003, 04:56 PM
No Im not "Screwing" anyone over. Im cutting piece of **** lawns that wouldn't be cut otherwise. You can call me a scrub. In fact, I take kindly to that. Its good to get a solid customer base with a week in the business. Still gets me payed.
The $150 was financed through sears and it included all my purchases. The true number was more like $550 (Weed wacker, Edger, Blower, Bags, Gas Can, Two of every replaceable part for my machines)
And I know all of you are as holy as you are professionals.
**** it, like I said I posted the brocure to see what you thought. Obviosuly it stirred something in you to say that the kid was ugly. Good, it gets you to look at it. The price was jumped upon with regards to costs etc.
Finally I am very confident that you all couldn't pull over a 20% (75 of the "Jr High" dog pen cleaning,ugly kid brocures/15 customers) in terms of marketing customers the way I did.

madupz20
05-31-2003, 05:11 PM
And lewis how is it a scheme?. I said bait and switch, but that doesn't mean that I cut the lawn and THEN tell the people the Jacked up price. They get an estimate. My price range really is $10 to $25. And you people wouldn't understand that, not being from the area. SOme lawns are tiny, less than 15 min work.

“Do not judge so that you will not be judged.For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye,’ while there is a beam in your own? You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces. "-Matthew Chapter 7 V1-6.

But, lets not get Biblical, this is lawn mowing.

Rustic Goat
05-31-2003, 06:20 PM
You quote from the Bible, then say let's not get biblical, and that follows your posting filled with substituted cussing and prior name calling.

If you won't take criticism, DON'T ask for opinions. If you want to play where the adults do you'll have to at least act a little more mature.

Where you get your percentages from I don't know, (or care). Percentage of customers in an area isn't what it's all about, it's doing quality work and getting paid enough to cover overhead with profit left over.

Your lashing out at those that criticize really does show a measurable amount of immaturity. What almost all posts have been trying to tell you is, LOOK & ACT PROFESSIONAL. Age does not keep you from doing this. Your wording, name calling, and attitude in your posts are what made many of the reply posts 'put downs' on your style.

One thing I'll give you, at least you're trying to figure a way to make money/a living. Put a cap on your hostility, and learn to take offered advise from professionals in the business your trying to get into, even when it doesn't suit your thinking.
Act like you want to succeed, don't act like or think you're owed success.
Good Luck

madupz20
05-31-2003, 06:50 PM
I'd like to retract my statements. I also want to apologize to those whom I offended, and as I look at the views that is 186 of you. I will use this site as a guide, and not as some self deprecating podium where I can puff my chest out. The point is, I am a scrub. I convey that point to the customer. I work hard, but they know I am limited in regards to services I can provide. My brocure is just another avenue for me to get business for people who would otherwise not have their lawns cut. Also when I worked with a landscaping company, I felt the smaller homes were ignored becuase they wouldn't dish out the $35/hour. I have been using the brocure now as a business flyer, writing what I feel is a fair estimate on the brocure itself. This has gotten me good business. I wish not the be a thorn in the sides, and I respect all of you as professionals. I should hold myself to a higher level when it comes to "smack talking" on the internet.

mr.lawnzap
05-31-2003, 08:00 PM
i respect a man who can admit a mistake, no harm no foul, you could put a better looking guy on that flyer though, id be glad to send you a picture of myself pushing my mower but theyd probably be disapointed when you show up and not me. seriously though think about it from the stand point of lost money,from here on out get the max you can your damn sure earning it out there mowing your *** off

Rustic Goat
05-31-2003, 11:23 PM
Hey y'all, I think there might be a real person inside that mad-up character.

Your last post shows you do have grit and a real personality.

Best wishes with your venture, may your hard work turn into the success you're after.

LAWNGODFATHER
06-01-2003, 02:30 AM
Now that I have a new operating program (got rid of Windows ME) I see a water mark in your pic.

And I gave you a straight up critique of your flyer.

Also 15 customers in a week, come on, should do that in a day;)

gogetter
06-01-2003, 04:57 PM
You come here and apologize then you send me this in a PM:

"Im sorry im a scrub. Ill move to your neighboor hood and I'll bait and
switch your customers with cheap prices and see how much they honor
your "quality work"

Please do come to my neighborhood. I hope you like the taste of your own teeth. Now fade away ya piece of ****.

promower
06-04-2003, 02:18 AM
If your prices are $10-$25 what happens if you get a call for a job that may take you 2 hours. You should just leave all dollar amounts out of your flier. It might make your estimates. I bet when you quote someone at $15 they say why not $10? what makes my lawn $15?. Not trying to knock you or anything but I just advertise service not the cost.

lawn perfection
06-13-2003, 03:07 PM
THE FLIER IS POOR! YOUR PRICES REALLY DON'T BOTHER ANYONE, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! YOU FINANCED 150 MOWER! YOU DON'T NEED MORE CUSTOMERS,BUT YOU DO NEED COLLEGE! DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL, YOU CAME ON HERE ASKED FOR ADVICE, GOT IT THEN GOT MADD. SORRY TRUTH HURTS.

lawndreamer
06-18-2003, 05:52 PM
He'll be paying $7.00 a month long after the mower breaks and he's out of the business.

broken leg
06-21-2003, 10:23 PM
Well if he bought his equipment from sears he well still be paying for it when he throws it in the trash halfway through the summer. what goes around comes around.