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Stephen
01-08-2000, 07:22 AM
Does anyone know if lesco has a website or if there is a catalog i can order? No Lesco here in NY that i know of. Thanks for the help.<p>----------<br>Stephen<br>

jeffclc
01-08-2000, 07:27 AM
www.lesco.com

peacedog
01-08-2000, 05:24 PM
I have checked out their website and it is very basic. I doubt you'll find what you want.<p><p>----------<br>Blake<br>Ferta-Lawn

Eric ELM
01-08-2000, 06:05 PM
Lesco is based out of Ohio, so I would think there would be some in NY. They are all the way down to Miami. Call the 800 number and they can tell you where a dealer is. I can't believe they don't have a dealer locator on their site.<p>----------<br>Eric@ELM<br>http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/index.html

Lazer
01-08-2000, 06:11 PM
Yeah, I didn't see any dealer locator, either. (Probably site designed by same guy who designs their mowers: pretty, just don't work well)<p>Okay, that was uncalled for, but here's their number: 1-800-321-5325.

JML
01-09-2000, 05:05 AM
Lazer, have you ever used Lesco Mowers. Why do you say that they don't work well. My 36's are three years old and my 48&quot;s are 2 years old. I have not had any problems with them. They are certainly more dependable then something bob-cat or exmark would make..<br>Maybe you have had a bad experience, but everyone else i have talk to swears by Lesco.

geogunn
01-09-2000, 09:39 AM
jml--I can dito your comments on lesco machines by my experience with mine. dollar for dollar, since I've been in the buisness, I've done exceptionally well with my lesco. I'm not going to tie my future purchases to only lesco because there is a great market out there for the lawn cutters money. I'm gonna gonna look at all of 'em including lesco for my next purchase.<p>GEO

Keith
01-09-2000, 11:04 AM
JML, Dude, what are ya bashing Exmark and Bobcat for?LOL. I don't own a Lesco, they may be ok. But I do have an Exmark and a Bobcat, that have been good mowers.

fireball
01-09-2000, 11:18 AM
steve <p>just call 1-800-321-5325 and tell them you want to buy something. Lesco has several ways of getting to you. They have stores in all the bigger cities in NY. (rochester, buffalo, syracuse, albany, west nyack, poughkeepsie etc). they have stores on wheels that primarly call on golf courses but they will stop by your house if you arrange an appointment. They also have individuals roaming the countryside called msr's or T&O specialists. they also have individuals that call on Home Depot accounts and retail shops. just call and something will happen. Their web site is basic but the future enhancements will probably be like any other big company and you will be doing all your business through web sites. see phil nillsons site for what the future will bring

Lazer
01-09-2000, 06:52 PM
JML-<p>I love Lesco, I spend tens of thousands with them every year on Fertilizer.<p>As far as their mowers go, they're simply copycats. They have never made an innovative machine. The used to &quot;sub-out&quot; the building of much of their equipment and now they have a deal with MTD. MTD! <p>I guess I just have more respect for the companies that are the innovators: Scag, Toro, eXmark, Bobcat, Dixie Chopper, etc.<br>Lesco equipment has never come out with something new, never been responsive to the needs of the commercial cutter.

SLSNursery
01-10-2000, 06:12 AM
I have some experience with Lesco equipment and materials. I have some sprayers, spreaders, and a Lesco Renovator, and have used mowers and their aerator. I am less than impressed. As Lazer mentioned, they are copycats not innovators. In fact, we have to find innovative ways to keep the seed hopper on our Renovator. Lesco Stores sell the equipment, but have no real professionals on staff to service the stuff. They usually send it down to some mechanic in the area to figure out. <p>They sell a lot of fertilizer and chemicals, and have a pretty good place in the market. I know and like their people who I am familiar with. However their corporate offices are becoming pretty aggressive, and buying fertilizer plants, removing the local blenders from the marketplace, therefore driving prices up for comparable product.<p>These statements are not speculation on my part. Our business built a big drive through building and set up a nursery to sell landscaping products and services to landscapers. In one respect, we essentially compete with Lesco, even though they are a few towns away. However we don't sell equipment, because we aren't equipped to service it correctly. <p>In conclusion, I often suggest to others that support of a local dealer for products from trimmers, mowers, fertilizers, etc. is a good way to do business. I am not knocking Lesco, just saying to buy from an independent local dealer when possible. You will probably be more satisfied, and receive higher quality service.<p><p>----------<br>Phil Grande - Soundview Landscape Supply - http://members.aol.com/slsnursery<br>Ivy League Landscaping - http://members.aol.com/scagrider

JML
01-11-2000, 10:38 AM
Copycats or not, the machine is built good at a very reasonable price.. Hey Lazer, lesco mowers ARE NOT made by MTD anymore. Lesco has their own factory and assembly plant that manufacturers all of their equip., whoever told you that was misinformed. i am just impressed with my local lesco service center, so thats why i am arguing this. and their employees at this center are ex-landscapers and know just about everything so they are very helpful..

Lazer
01-11-2000, 12:10 PM
Well, JML, let's make it fair: We'll swap one of the guys from your service center and send him up here, then maybe my service center will have one guy who knows his stuff. The guys in our service center are ex-landscapers too, cause their businesses flopped.<p>Anyway, the MTD ZTR is the exact same machine as the Lesco Viper. They've got some connection, and the Viper was just introduced last year.

fireball
01-11-2000, 06:51 PM
well guys just read lesco's annual report and you will see that there is a joint venture between Lesco and MTD called commerical turf products. One day they make green machines next day they make gray and red machines. Lesco has the ideas but MTD has the manufacturing expertise. MTD could build cheap machines at a profit but they could never build commercial machines. Lesco on the other hand started in a little building in sebring florida and couldn't build their machines fast enough. they constantly have equipement shortages. Couldn't buy any renovators in october 1999. most Lesco stores don't have mechcanics because they pay on the flat rate and they starve to death if they rely on fixing their own machines. They are good machines, not innovative, no double engines, no fancy paint jobs, no fur lined seats they just go out and work. some break down but are easy to fix. remember what really counts is how many times it broke down in five years and the total cost to repair it. not what they did in the last two weeks. Talk to people that own them and find out how much time they spend fixing them. Lesco has done nothing but grow in products and profit the last few years and you don't do that by having unsatified customers. If they were as predatory like a previous author suggests, they could buy Scag and Ransomes with their petty cash fund. I suggest that instead of buying their mower right now you buy their stock and when they announce their year end profits you take your gain and buy two mowers

geogunn
01-11-2000, 06:58 PM
fireball--now that's doing some homework!<p>GEO

Lazer
01-11-2000, 08:35 PM
Thank goodness that stock surge doesn't come as a result of equipment sales & service.<p>You be lucky to be able to afford a line trimmer. (Oh, yeah, they don't make their own trimmers, either)

The Mowman
06-25-2000, 10:46 PM
We have one Lesco 48 that is three years old and another that is two. They are both used full time and are holding up very well. <p>----------<br>Stephen<br>

mowerconsultant
06-25-2000, 11:21 PM
lets see what equipment lesco makes....<br>walk behinds they used to make these solely themselves (and they are copys of a scag), now they have a joint venture with mtd called c.t.p. commercial turf products, and that is also where there current riders are made.(also available in mtd pro and cub cadet)<br>handheld equipment, used to be echo, now company called shibura(stihl and husky copies) (same as the mtd pro handheld equipment)<br>aerators and renavators, company called classen, at least thats who made em last year...<br>leaf units (truck loaders) company called salsco.<br>sprayers...this one also available in mtd pro<br>so as you can see lesco to my knowledge does not make there own powered equipment anymore. and all the powered equipment you can buy at lesco can be bought elsewhere under a different name.<br>but i do love there spreaders, best you can buy in my opinion, and you can buy those in the mtp pro name also.....<br><p><font size="1">Edited by: mowerconsultant

lakegastonlawn
06-26-2000, 10:35 AM
Lazer, I hear exmark is changing their name to TORMARK. Same friggin machine as the toro, with a fabricated deck instead of the stamped one. Yeah, boy that is really innovation, the professors at exmark really have been burning the midnight oil on that one. And word is from the guys at the shows this year, that &quot;integration will continue where possible between the two lines.&quot; Now if you'll climb down off your crippled high-horse, let's get to the nuts and bolts of the situation....I really don't give a flying blue tird WHO makes the equipment sold through the Lesco service centers. Point is , the equipment is good... not because I like the name ,or the color of the equipment ,or because it has a steering system any drunken m onkey could use(t-bar)<br>The equipment is proven in the field by people who have actually had their ASS behind it in the field. I don't care what your OPINIPON is, what are your EXPERIENCES with this equipment? NONE. How can you have any clue if you just stand back and <br>think you KNOW everything? Got two Lesco 48 inch walks and one Bobcat 48 inch walk that only gets uses as back up or on x-large jobs. Both my guys like the Lesco's better, as well. My company prefers Lesco 3 to none...THAT's my experience.<br>

lawrence stone
06-26-2000, 11:12 AM
lakegaston wrote:<p>&gt;or because it has a steering system any drunken m onkey could use(t-bar)<p><br>Well at least this drunken monkey will be<br>able to grasp a can of beer in twenty years.<p>Maybe you could use one of the camel bladders<br>with some tubing to drink from.<br>

Lazer
06-26-2000, 12:02 PM
You're right, I have no idea.<p>When you've spent over 2/3rds of your life in this industry, mowed with almost every rotary mower - including Lesco - and make over a 6 figure income, then you can tell me I have no idea.<p>In the meantime, keep doing your &quot;x-large&quot; sites with your 48&quot; walk-behinds.

Cannonturf
06-27-2000, 12:31 AM
In the 17 years I've been in the buisness, I have used many different brands of mowers.There are alot of good mowers out there and everyone has there own favorite brand just like cars or trucks. I have 6 lesco 48 belts and they have been great.I also have 6 hydro exmarks and 3 Lazer Z's which have been super mowers as well. In the past Ransomes gave me many years of service.<br>Innovative or not all were good mowers.<br>Has far as Toro being innovative all they do is buy the company and call it there own.(that's innovative?) and they would be my last choice.And some of the choppers I.ve seen I could cut better with my line trimmer<br>As far as Lesco sevice centers, I'm sure there are some bad ones, but I have to say the ones in the Twin Cities MN go out of there way to service me. I live an hour south of the cities and they will bring me anything I need.And the staff are some of the most knowledgeable people I have met.<br>I guess I might be one of the lucky ones but<br>Lesco has been a great company and has went out of there way to help my buisness.<br>Just 2 cents<br>

lakegastonla
06-27-2000, 03:03 PM
Hey Stone, about those cans of beer...got a spare?? :)

trimmer
06-28-2000, 02:34 PM
Lakegastonlawns Toro bought out Exmark and toro put there name on it as far as toro not being an inovator they have designed one hell of a deck and I do own one and probably switch all my mowers to toro. The frame and components don't cut the grass the deck does so I think toro is doing a hell of a job.

Evan528
06-28-2000, 03:48 PM
trimmer, i agree with you. I bought my first toro at the end of last year wich is the z master. I was very close to buying the exmark since its the same machine but after i tried the toro i bought it... toro makes the best deck available... i couldnt care less if they use other peoples components... they take the good features of exmark and add there own special touches.... my next mower will definitly be a toro also!