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Ric
06-04-2003, 10:40 PM
Last three days lawn Doctor of New Jersey has called and threatened to file suite if I donít stop doing business as Yard Doctor. I have been in business for 5 years under that name in Florida and everything is legal. Lawn Doctorís call back phone number is 732-946-0029 ext 253 Charlene is the person that keeps calling and threatening a law suite. 732-946-8960 is the number showing on my caller ID.

The small businessman is a dying breed in corporate America today. I state only the fact here and wish to say more but will leave that to you.

bruces
06-04-2003, 11:35 PM
Ric,
Is this company doing business in Florida?

If not, it sounds like they are just harassing you.

In any case, you should just roll over and quit, change your company name or go out of business, after all, they are the big company, you have no rights.

Or, on second thought, tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.

Good luck with your battles.

BRL
06-05-2003, 12:33 AM
"Is this company doing business in Florida?"

LOL They are all over the country, just that's the Home Office. They are number 2 or 3 Lawn Care behind TG\CL according to the trade rags? They did over 60 million in 2001. I can't believe they'd have a good case for this one. Problem is, they are so big they have the money to waste on the lawyers to actually push the issue. Hopefully they don't really push the isuue, and if they do I hope you win. Good luck.

KirbysLawn
06-05-2003, 01:30 AM
Tell them to bring it on, they have **** for a case.

Runner
06-05-2003, 02:47 AM
How long has Lawn Doctor been in business? Does anyone know? This could be the deciding factor. You think YOU have it bad,....? We have a local guy here that has a business called Scott's Lawn Care. He's been in business here, for SEVERAL years. Now, what about THIS case!? However it turns out, I think you'll be safe. I have a friend that used that phrase "The lawn doctor has your prescription for a greener, thicker lawn." He has since stopped using that slogan since we now have a Lawn Doctor franchise working our county as well.

BRL
06-05-2003, 12:13 PM
According to their web site they started in 1967. But I still don't think Yard Doctor infringes on their copyright. Especially if they weren't in his area when he started. I thought I read a case where some of the Scott's lawn company names (there are many such named across the country) were allowed to continue if they found the Scott came from their name. If they were using Scott's because they used Scott's products & weren't part of the Scott's Lawn Care franchises, then they were forced to change their names.

coyoteman
06-06-2003, 08:48 PM
I've had the same problem. Call your lawyer and get hime to contact them on what grounds they have. Tend to one they will back off once they see a law firms letter head. It's not the copyright you need to worry about it's the trademark or common law trademark issue you should look into. Just my two sense worth.

LAWNGODFATHER
06-07-2003, 01:09 PM
Ignore them until you received paperwork otherwise it's bogus.

CMerLand
06-07-2003, 05:49 PM
Hey BRL,

Didnt you run into a problem with some "whack and hack" with lousy business manners having the same name of your company but like the next town over? Would hate to start marketing in that town to only find out you already have a bad reputation thanks to that guy. Did you check in with your county clerk on that to find out what you could do??

I know I had to register my company name with the county clerk at the courthouse when I first started my business, which prevents anyone else from using that name in this county, but not elsewhere in the state.

Gotta watch those business names or you can end up paying dearly for not registering yours prior to starting work.

CMerLand

elvis 6certifide op.
06-08-2003, 03:05 PM
named your self affordable doctor or lecture doctor or grass doctor or ric doctor or ric the yard doctor or ric the lawn and yard doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or the lawn boy. they dont have a case at all

KenH
06-08-2003, 07:19 PM
Hey Elvis---- Its "CERTIFIED.";)

elvis 6certifide op.
06-11-2003, 08:40 PM
count them yard doc termite and wdo, general house pest and rodent control, lawn and ornamental pest control, natural ares weed management, aquatic pest control, right of ways contracting. darn i could have been a limb loper. i could have bought me some high heel work boots.:blob3:

ParkerLawn
06-17-2003, 10:48 PM
Here in KY you have to register your company name before you can legally do business under that name. As long as it isn't the same, you can use whatever you want. If you look in the yellow pages under lawncare, all of them sound the same in most cases. I would tell them *&^% off. That is exactly what I hate about big companies, they just can't stand for anyone else to make an honest living. Serves them right!

Ric
06-19-2003, 10:25 AM
I have received a certified letter from Lawn Doctor Inc. My lawyer tells me I have nothing to worry about. He has checked out everything and I am 100% legal and above board.


elvis 6certifide op.

BEPC Memo # 736. Gee Elvis 6 certs. That is wonderful. That is equal to the number of business names you have had on the side of your truck in the past 5 years. Oh maybe I have the wrong guy. But I don't think so since you have send me e-mail via my website. My website reads your cookies.


Signed
THE OVER EDUCATED IDIOT.
(named my you elvis)

elvis 6certifide op.
06-22-2003, 12:10 AM
including your self and 3 employees you need workers comp. ill be sure that you get a good deal.if you want ive got pictures supplied by big ric. ive got a few myself from taking your jobs.!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what do you get, when you mix 80 dollars worth of chemicals and support your lawn care bus with 40 dollars worth of income?answer; you end up sleeping with the guy across the street(high heels coca cola midget)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im going to missippi to fish in tourney!!!!!!! ill leave my spray boat at home. ill be taking my mako flats special with me! he looks real bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe he isnt wearing his mask,his nose is reallllly red !!!!!!!!!!! he needs workers comp tooooooooooooo! ill make sure you get the better ddeeaall!!!!!

im working part time and making more than i ever have . dam its good to be lic. in more than 1 cat.

elvis has left this message:p

LAWNGODFATHER
06-22-2003, 01:17 AM
Elvis wanna be, has the brain of an infant.

I didn't understand a thing, but read a post of my pee pee is bigger than yours.

Turfdude
06-22-2003, 07:17 PM
Elvis,

Grow up. I don't know what you're ranting about, nor do I care. Ric is a well liked, respected and very knowledgeable veteran of this forum. He need not lower himself to your level.

As for Lawn Dr., yes they're based here in Jersey. Their program I'm sure cannot be confused w/ Ric's. They do not use spray rigs around here. They have gas driven sprayer/spreaders. Like TG/CL & Scott's, they make their profit in high volume. Quantity, not quality.

Ric
06-22-2003, 09:27 PM
Keith

Good luck on your fishing trip. Win that tourney. Your the man.

LAWNGODFATHER
06-24-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by elvis 6certifide op.
im going to missippi to fish in tourney I guess ric knows you since he called you Keith.

I am near the Mississippi, come on by, I'll take good care of you just like Ric would.

Ric
06-24-2003, 08:32 PM
LGF

Yes I know Keith. He lives three blocks from me. He used to be at my house 5 nights a week. His Father was a pool Shooting buddy of mine before he had a stroke. Keith was the first CPO to hold a card on me. Keith can be a nice person. He has a good sense of humor and is fun to party with. Some where we fell apart. I am very good friends with his Ex partner (Chuck) who lives across the street from Keith and we network. Chuck has a very successful tree trimming business and just put a second Chipper Truck on the road. Keith's wife is a state auditor and makes good money. I wish Keith all the best.

lugnut#6
06-25-2003, 12:38 AM
im in ocean springs, ms.
what tourney?

ParksGuy
06-25-2003, 01:41 AM
I like these signs if they wanna play rough.....

Ric
06-29-2003, 01:06 PM
Thanks for all the replies. Yes I did get a letter, which I had to sign for. Not certified just saying I received the letter. It was from their sale manager not a lawyer. The letter was addressed to me at YARD DOCTOR. They demanded that I not use the name LAWN DOCTOR it is copyrighted. I had my lawyer send back a reply, which stated I do not or do I plan to use the name LAWN DOCTOR.

Here in retirement Ville Fla. Gods waiting room, we have many retired lawyers including retired Federal Judges. Therefore I have received a lot of free legal advise from professionals. The general opinion is I have an 85% to 90% chance of winning a court case. No lawyer will tell you there is a 100% chance of winning any thing. They use terms like "you have very defendable case" or "you should prevail"

The local Lawn Doctor is a nice guy and I have been to his house and seen his set up (before). He even has a wash down water recovery for his walk behind unit. He gets medical insurance, Marketing, and tech support etc. Lawn Doctor uses a granular program for the most part, which is an excellence way to go. I will stay friendly with him. I consider this Threat a dead issue.

Thank to all for your concern.