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shearbolt
06-28-2003, 11:14 AM
Have some 25-0-15 40%SCU 20%U-Flex 7%S 3%Fe. Would you put this on with this weather forcasthttp://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/IAZ039.php?warncounty=IAC013&city=Waterloo

kickin sum grass
06-28-2003, 12:30 PM
what is 20% u-flex?

HarryD
06-28-2003, 02:38 PM
U-FLEX is a slow release N. I have a few bags of the close to the same stuff if the places have sprikler systems I would not be to worried

timturf
06-28-2003, 05:59 PM
forgot to tell us how many lbs per 1000 you are going to apply?

I wouldn't be afraid to apply up to 8 lbs per 1000 of 38-0-0 nitroform this time of year in my location! That's 3.04 lbs per 1000 of actual n with normal average temps of 88 degrees.

CMerLand
06-28-2003, 06:12 PM
TIM,

Having read your background info and not being certain of the release characteristics of nitroform, (although I do know its slow release) are you suggesting he put down 3 LBS of N per 1000 in one application???? All the literature Ive ever read coming out of Rutgers and other turf sights recommend 4 to 5lbs of N FOR THE YEAR with most to go down in the Fall.

Not being critical, just need to know if that advice was accurate and to learn some more regarding nitroform.

timturf
06-28-2003, 06:54 PM
nitroform is 67% win
3 to 4 lbs of n /1000 /year is adequate maintenance rate for my area!
2/3 of n should be avaiable for late summer and fall!

NO, I didn't recommend he put down 3 lbs of n /1000, but I can think of a few examples where I would consider on cool season turf!

KenH
06-28-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by timturf


I wouldn't be afraid to apply up to 8 lbs per 1000 of 38-0-0 nitroform this time of year in my location! That's 3.04 lbs per 1000 of actual n with normal average temps of 88 degrees.

Im confused.......:confused: :confused: In one app???

bobbygedd
06-29-2003, 10:27 AM
just put the whole bag down, whatever happens, happens, if u smoke the lawn, u could just tell them it was a fungus and sell them a thatching +seeding job.

philk17088
06-29-2003, 09:17 PM
Now thats thinking like an entrepreneur!payup

jsaunders
07-03-2003, 09:39 PM
Thats a GOOD one Bobby!!:D :D

Hamons
07-07-2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by timturf
forgot to tell us how many lbs per 1000 you are going to apply?

I wouldn't be afraid to apply up to 8 lbs per 1000 of 38-0-0 nitroform this time of year in my location! That's 3.04 lbs per 1000 of actual n with normal average temps of 88 degrees.


The key to Tim's post is that it is Nitroform. Nitroform® is a controlled-release nitrogen. It is manufactured by reacting urea with formaldehyde to provide slow release nitrogen in carbon-linked polymers, which last up to 12 months of growing season. Nitroform® is actually consumed as a nutrient and energy source by microorganisms. A small percentage of the nitrogen is immediately made available to plants through water solubility, and the balance gradually released through the continual digestion of Nitroform® by the soil microbes. It is the most controlled -- slow release fertilizer on the market.

I think Tim was making a point to shearbolt that it would be fine to apply a product right now if it had the right release characteristics. We needed more information to give good advice.

Whats in the bag is only a small part of the decision making process. we also need to know the type of turf, how much N has already been applied and how many pounds per thousand you are putting down now. Are you trying to correct a problem such as excessive nitrogen leaching from the soil due to heavy rains or are you just trying to make things grow?

These should be standards for all applications posts.

timturf
07-07-2003, 02:27 PM
good reply jeff!!!!!!

SELDOM would I apply 8lbs per 1000 of nitroform (3.04lbs n per 1000) at on time, but I wouldn't be afraid too!!!!!!
Wouldn't apply 3.04lbs n per 1000 with other products> You need to look at % of slow release, and how does product release. Micro organism, water, partical breakdown. Even within these breakdowns the manufactor can determine how fast they break down into available n.
So, how much breaks down in week 1, weeks 2-4, weeks 4-8, weeks 8-16, weeks 16-24 and weeks 24 thru year 2. Now what are you trying to accomplish? Choose the best source and rate of application to get desired results!!!!!!!!