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eslawns
09-29-2000, 09:08 PM
I didn't know if I was the only one who thought of this or not. My dealer sells me 1 gal mix Shindaiwa oil for 42 cents per bottle, as long as I get a case. The Stihl is 83 cents for the 1 gal mix, regardless of how many I buy. 2 seasons ago I got 3 cases of the Shindaiwa. After I got it home I realized it was 40:1 and all my stuff was 50:1. At first I decided to take it back, but opened 2 of the plastic wrappers. I did some quick math and came up with the idea of using 1.25 gals of fuel instead of 1 gal. You still get a 50:1 mix, but a cheaper bottle goes further and saves me a few bucks. It may not matter much if you use 5 bottles a month, but big multi-crew outfits might be able to save a hunk of change. Let me know what you guys think.

Barkleymut
09-29-2000, 09:25 PM
I buy 2.5 gallon mixes of Stihl for 89 cents each.

BUSHMASTER
09-29-2000, 09:30 PM
man the cheap compared to cols, ga the going rate for 2.5 gallon mix from stihl is about $1.76-$2.35 depening on who you buy it from...

curlawngreen
09-29-2000, 10:29 PM
5 gals $40.00. You do the math.

LoneStarLawn
09-29-2000, 10:39 PM
Barkleymut .42 for 1.25 gallons mixes X 2

equals.....84 cents for 2.5 gallons thats better than .89 cents I think....

Jim Buessing
09-30-2000, 12:34 AM
Delaer prices vary and they sell oil on what the market will pay. Also one dealer may have lower prices on Shi oil over Stihl oi lbecause he probably bought the Shi oil on a pallet quantity and the Stihl he does very little of. There is a big price reduction for buying by the pallet load.

Richard Martin
09-30-2000, 10:49 AM
All of you are getting hosed! You can buy 1 gallon of Echo E.P.A. 2 cycle oil for $11.00 that will make 50 gallons of 2 cycle mix. It will take 20 of those little bottles at 84 cents a piece to make 50 gallons of mix. $11.00 vs. $16.40.

turfman99
09-30-2000, 11:47 AM
Ace Hardware 1 gallon 2 cycle oil is $ 7.99.

Packaged for Ace by Chevron.

Top that.

curlawngreen
09-30-2000, 12:13 PM
My above post is for 5 gals of STHIL. $8.00 including tax, per gal.

Kirk Kempen
09-30-2000, 12:18 PM
eslawns:
Be careful reducing the mix ratio of any 2-cycle oils. The maximum label ratio of 40:1 shouldn't be exceeded.
Higher quality oils, (especially synthetics), will allow higher ratios, but I would NOT suggest going beyond the mix ratio printed on the package. The slight savings may cost you a seized engine.

FYI:
I've used Amsoil synthetic 2-cycle oil for the last 5 years, with great results. This is around $8 a quart, and can be mixed at ratios up to 100:1.
I do however, stay on the safe side, and mix a little richer than that. This oil burns very clean, and provides much better protection than non-synthetics.

If you check out the guys racing 2-cycle dirt bikes, they use only synthetics. It provides much longer engine life, through reduced friction, and cleaner burning.

Richard Martin
09-30-2000, 03:50 PM
Curlawngreen wrote:

{My above post is for 5 gals of STHIL. $8.00 including tax, per gal.}

Just goes to prove, the bigger the package, the better the price.

Turfman99 wrote:

{Ace Hardware 1 gallon 2 cycle oil is $ 7.99. Packaged for Ace by Chevron}

Is this TCW oil? If so, no thanks.

dhicks
09-30-2000, 08:58 PM
I use Amsoil at 100:1. No problems!

Barkleymut
09-30-2000, 09:26 PM
I am interested in the Amsoil mix. How do you measure these amounts? Does it have a little cup? I sure do like the disposable bottles but if its better for my equipment then I may have to get some. Is there a place on the net where I can buy it?

Eric ELM
09-30-2000, 09:31 PM
http://amsoil.com

Keith
09-30-2000, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Barkleymut
I am interested in the Amsoil mix. How do you measure these amounts? Does it have a little cup? I sure do like the disposable bottles but if its better for my equipment then I may have to get some. Is there a place on the net where I can buy it?

The great thing about Amsoil 100:1 2 cycle oil is the fact that if you have any common sense, you cant screw it up :)
Whether you mix 1 1/4 ounces with a gallon or 2 ounces it will work fine. Both the small bottle and the quart bottle have measurements on the side. I usually like try to mix 8 ounces with 5 gallons for an 80:1 mix.

I have been using it for about 8 years with no problems.

BobbyBcuttin
09-30-2000, 09:43 PM
for doing any ratio go to any motor cycle shop and ask for a ratio riot cup it's got all the mixtures you could think of from one gallon to 2.5 gallons it's what you call idiot proof

lawrence stone
09-30-2000, 09:44 PM
Amsoil at 80 to 1 is the way to go.

Very little smoke. More fuel less oil means more power.

bdemir
09-30-2000, 10:11 PM
I started using amsoil and noticed that the weed wip vibrates when i use it and now i add more like the 80:1 ratio and it doesent vibrate as much. I also noticed that the amsoil makes the starts easier and the wips do not go out as easily.

Toroguy
10-01-2000, 11:37 AM
bdemir,
Do you mean you use less string or do you mean the string feeds more difficultly?

Thanks

bdemir
10-01-2000, 03:51 PM
No, not the string the weed wip vibrates because of the speed. Im sorry for not making it clear.

I get more vibration at high speed with the 100:1 ratio and seem t get smoother operation at 80:1 ratio. The more oil the smoother it seems to go and its easier on the wrists. To me it just seems to vibrate because the 100:1 ratio is to high in fuel and i prefer the lower ratio to keep the vibration down at high speeds. All day with the weed wip can be painful at the wrist joints.

leeslawncare
10-01-2000, 08:58 PM
I always buy the 1 gallon exxon superflow @ wallmart.Lesco sell tip-an pour bottles in all sizes .the are great! less wasted prouducts.i use them for every thing rouund-up momentum an oil .

bdemir
10-01-2000, 10:20 PM
Toroguy now i see what you are asking. When i say that the wips dont go out i mean that they dont turn off. I am tlaking about them stalling out not the string going out. Sorry, My fault for not being more clear.

awm
10-02-2000, 11:55 PM
Im sure there are cheaper products but Ihavent
had a engine failure or clogged exaust sinceI
started using the stihl 2.5 gal mix. and high grade gas

Sammy
10-03-2000, 02:34 AM
Stihl oil and 89 octane.