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M11792
07-13-2003, 04:44 PM
Question to single person operators:
How many jobs per day can you do by yourself? If it is a perfect day, no rain and you had as many accounts as you could imagine....8,10,12 plus jobs? More? Less? What is your normal start time?

Still planning my path. Thanks for any help you may offer.
M11792

mtdman
07-13-2003, 09:27 PM
I am solo, I do mostly residential lawns, and I can get 15 a day done on a good day. On a great day, 20. Average day is 12. Heck, the other day I started at 1pm because I had a morning Dr's appointment, and I ripped off 13 before 8pm. But that's me.

:D

M11792
07-13-2003, 10:28 PM
MTD
How many total accounts do you service? Are they all mow, edge etc... or any special services? Just trying to figure out my plans. What type of average do you charge for a normal job (cut,edge no monster yard)?
M11792

mtdman
07-13-2003, 10:34 PM
I have 84 accounts total, about an average of 75 per week. And that's waaaay too many. This is my first year on my own, and I went a bit overboard on signing people up. I would like to have about 65 a week. That's regular mowing, a few edgings and other services thrown in. And it's also after 8 years of business and experience. No way I could do that many in my first few years if I were on my own. If you want more advice, feel free to email me.

:D

temlawn
07-17-2003, 05:54 AM
2-3 per hour depending on size and how much of a hurry your in...:blob3:

BSDeality
07-17-2003, 06:52 PM
size of the lawn, drive time and obstacles in the lawn all add up to what you can get done in one day of work. some days it could be one large commercial complex or 40 postage stamp sized lawns.

A1 Grass
07-21-2003, 12:48 AM
Wow! I am impressed with some of the numbers here! I just started "soloing" this year after tagging along with a friend for a couple of years.

I was/am very limited on my starting budget and I am currently using door hangers with the most success, but even they are a dissapointing .2% return. That's okay, because I am learning about this business right now.

I like to start at about 8:30-9:00 am. I have been hammering all closeby areas with the flyers so most of my customers are within 1 mile of where I live (cool, right?). I think I could knock out 8-10 (35's) by 4 or so (which is when I like to quit!). Takes me about 45 minutes total to do one.

Unfortunately I only have about 10 customers right now (plus overflow from my friend's business 70 miles away).

Big salute to you guys doing 20 or more! You must really HAUL AZZ!

Smitty58
07-21-2003, 08:18 AM
Mtd - if you are doing 75 per week with an avg. of $30 x 34 cuts that is $76500 per year. Thats a lot of money to cut grass. I'm of course guessing on the per cut price and how many cuts ,but based on what I've read thats probably pretty close. Do you do that well? I'm only doing this part time and in my first year ,but if thats the kind of money that can be had...no wonder you see so many little trailers with mowers strapped to them.

GLAN
07-26-2003, 10:02 PM
Hard to ask a question. "How many in a day"

Lots of variables.

size of property, size of lawn area
do you do edging, line trimming, and bed work at all?
do you blow?

Do all the customers get all the above?

Also, are lawns treated with fertilizers?

Bagging, mulching?

Type of grass, terain?

ElephantNest
07-26-2003, 10:59 PM
Let's see. Just got new mower, and first day with it did 14 yards in 5 hours. Was the end of the week, so it was all that I had left. Actually, that was Fri. and Sat.'s load, but was done by 2:00 Friday, and that's with an hour for lunch, started at 8:00. One yard I didn't do the back (small but dogs were left out), and one yard was my own. So I guess in a full day I could do 25 or so alone, but wouldn't want to do that for long at all, I'm getting old.

~Nest
http://pnavy.com/nest/albums/SomeStuff/eXmark.jpg
^^ My new employee ^^


And yes, all get mulched, weedeated, edged, blown. Nothing more, nothing less on mow days. Other services are arranged seperately. Some people edge every other visit, I edge each visit.

ksland
07-27-2003, 10:54 AM
Im right with MTD MASTER. Just 34 accounts semi-solo 2 days mowing and 3 days of other stuff. Mowing makes up about 30% of my total gross

logan
08-01-2003, 12:15 AM
I can't believe what I read here. I can do 10 with a lot of stress on my person. I start at 8 and finish at 4:00. I think that the main thing to consider is the fact that if if you charge the right price, then you don't have to do so many yards in a day. Ask you potential customers if they want hedges and weeds included in their agreement. Then you can get even more per yard and once again you can get home before it get too hot, before you get too tired, or before everyone else who charges too cheaply. Good luck to you.

JTHutch
08-05-2003, 08:42 PM
I would have to say the biggest varieable for me is how much driving I have to do. My accounts are stretched out and I get killed by driving sometimes up to 10 min. between jobs. I'm Hoping to change that by adding new customers to my list in the areas I already have customers but I keep getting calls from other areas. Oh, well I live in a small town so can't complain to much. I can to about 10 on my own starting at 8 a.m. finishing at 5:00 pm 1 hour lunch. I know if I had more lawns to mow I would carry my lunch but I don't yet.

ElephantNest
08-05-2003, 10:01 PM
All I can say is either y'all are doing something wrong, or don't have the proper equipment for the job. 10 in a day? As stated, I can do 15 in 5 hours, so if I worked a 10 hour day....30 yards. Majority of them are 5000 sqft or so, some larger. One is over an acre. I have a few together here, and a couple together there, and driving time is not too bad. And I'm OLD! C'mon you young guys, let's here some numbers! What is keeping y'all at only 10-12 yards? Size? Doesn't sound like it. Driving time? No, doesn't sound like that either. This has gotten me very curious, as I know I'm not Superman. How can our numbers be so different with the lawns being almost the same sizes, etc. Hmmmm......


~Nest

logan
08-06-2003, 09:30 AM
I can't believe it still Elephant. I have a 52 Surper Surfer and a 36 Wb and I spent from 9:00 to 4:30 and did 10 yards (15 minutes for lunch). Teach me your techniques. Of course, I did hedges on some and sprayed weeds on some. If I could do as many as you I would be rolling in the bucks. I am a solo operator and I mow, edge, trim and blow on every yard. Tell me your secret please.:D

ElephantNest
08-06-2003, 10:06 AM
No secrets. I usually bring the eXmark, a 21", T-270, and echo blower.

Ex: I have a street with 4 almost side by side. I hop out, and mow everything, 2 on one side, and then mow the fronts of the two on the other side, and one back. Then I push mow a small backyard, grab the weedeater, and trim and edge, always walking at a brisk pace. Then I blow, usually blow everything towards my truck if it is too much to hide, then toss it in a bag and throw it on the truck.

Ok, to eXmark all 4 yards, minus one backyard takes about 20 -25 minutes. Push mow, 10 minutes, weedeat all 4 yards, another 20 mins, blow is 10-15 minutes tops. There is an hour, maybe 1.25 hours, and got 4 done. Then on to the next neighborhood.

Not sure if I take offense at "I can't believe it still Elephant." or not. I guess it's hard to know when someone online is pulling your leg, but I ask you this: If you have read any of my other posts, I think you will notice that I am honest, and try to help people here, not lie to them, correct? I mean, you're entitled to your opinions, but what part of what I say is SO hard to believe?? That's 4 yards in about an hour, x's 4 is 16 yards in 4 hours, with probably an hour of drive time altogether. 5 hours.

Having the mulch kit helps, because I wasn't done as soon when I used the Viking, with reg. blades. But still not that far off. Of those particular 4 accounts, 3 of them pay $30.00, and one (my only cheapo) pays $20.00 because she got me the other 3 accounts. Most of the others are $40.00 yards, and one being $70.00. Not bad when it's just me, but I don't have the accounts to do this everyday. Working on that.

I would be MORE than glad to have someone come with me one day, maybe someone from near the area, and maybe they can explain what goes on better than me, maybe from a different perspective. But I know that I timed myself, because it was the FIRST day with my eXmark, so I should get a touch quicker when I become more accustomed to it. Not by much though, because I am a veteran on eXmarks.

I left at 8:00AM, took an hour for lunch, and was home by 2:00PM, and had 14 + mine done. Believe it or not.

~Nest

lugnut#6
08-06-2003, 12:49 PM
elephants honesty and reputation is,without question,the best!

comes from being southern and raised with integrity:)

DennisF
08-06-2003, 08:48 PM
I'm 50 years old and can do 10-12 lawns in a 6 1/2 hour day using a Hustler Z w/ 52" deck. The lawns average about 8,000 SQ/FT. This includes trimming and edging. I start at 7:30 am and mow until 2:00 pm. It gets too hot after 2 o'clock here in Florida so I head home for the pool. The Hustler Z sure makes a BIG, BIG difference in the fatigue factor.

logan
08-06-2003, 09:30 PM
In no way was I calling you a lair. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was said with more of an amazement inflection. I can see that if you have that many yards on one street how you can do so much work. I usually have to drive 10 minutes to each of my yards, which means that I can only do 10-12 in a day. Today I did 9 yards 2 of which take about an hour each to do. Sorry once again that you thought I was calling you a lair, my fault for not using one of those cool little faces over there on the left.

ElephantNest
08-06-2003, 10:31 PM
No worries, I wasn't thinking you were calling me a liar, I just don't want you to think that it is too far fetched for you to reach. You, too can get this ammount of work done, just need to do some rearranging. I would seriously consider HEAVILY hitting the areas you already have accounts in with flyers, doorhangers, etc. Get more accounts in the same area, then, as needed, drop the ones too far out for too less money. Two average paying accounts usually create more profit than one good paying account out in the boon docks. Travel time there, then the work, travel time back, all adds up.

Also, I only have one neighborhood where I have 4 in a row. I have 2 and 3 together in other places, and some solos too. But the solos are all on the way to and/or from other jobs that are more clumped together.

~Nest

JTHutch
08-08-2003, 10:06 AM
I don't own a larger walk behind yet and only have a 42" Dixon and a 21" wb. Have some yards with fences and gates are too small for the ZTR. About 60% I have to mow the back with 21" wb Some of the back yards are 4-5000 sqft. That is what slows me down. I'm looking for a 32 or 36" walk behind but probably won't get one unless I can pick up 10-20 more accounts next year. And Like I said I can do 10 in an 8 hour day and I take some breaks and don't push too hard I could do 15 easily if I wanted but choose not to burn myself out. :)