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MikeA
07-16-2003, 06:18 AM
I purchased my home in NJ during last November

Almost my entire backyard is being overrun by this plant. It is spreading like wildfire. Can anybody tell me what it is and how to get rid of it?

In most places it is packed in pretty tight in bunches

Thanks
Mike

Green Pastures
07-16-2003, 02:22 PM
They are Violets.

You need Confront.

MikeA
07-17-2003, 08:08 AM
Thanks. I have them all over the place. I am thinking about not get rid of them because there is so many it is choking the grass out.

Are these violets, as in the flower? Will they flower at come point?

Green Pastures
07-17-2003, 10:10 AM
Yes, Violetts the flower, but not the variety you would buy at the nursery. Those are wild Violets. They SPREAD like wildfire.

Kill them now with Confront.

Use a spreader sticker.

Keep some on hand for later this year and next spring/summer, some will be back.

MikeA
07-17-2003, 01:34 PM
They do spread like wildfire. At this point I probably have more of them than grass. In some areas that is all that I.

Can I buy Confront and a spread sticker at Home Depot type of store? Is there any draw backs to using it?

I have also just planted new grass seed in some areas. It is ok to use with the new grass seed?

Green Pastures
07-18-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by MikeA
They do spread like wildfire. At this point I probably have more of them than grass. In some areas that is all that I.

Can I buy Confront and a spread sticker at Home Depot type of store? Is there any draw backs to using it?

I don't think so, but then again I don't shop for chemicals at H.D. I get Confront and S.S. at Lesco. I doubt you can get Confront at H.D. You can probably get something with similar active ingredients, but it will be less effective as it's probably not as concentrated.

I have also just planted new grass seed in some areas. It is ok to use with the new grass seed?

Probably not, but it's OK cuz the seed you just planted most likely won't make it through this summer anyway. Unless you're watering every day, the soil is perfect and you don't cut it below 3" high.

You'll probably end up having to visit Lesco or some other Turf supply house, kill the violets and then just deal with the patches till fall which is the best time to seed again.

Feel free to ask more questions, we're here to help. Just remember to look out for us and our pocketbooks when you need us.

Come to think of it. It may be more cost effective for you to hire somebody to spray for you. The smallest bottle of Confront I've ever seen is 1 gallon and it was ?$65? give or take a few $$, I really don't remember and the spreader sticker was in gallon jugs as well and that was like $14. You only use an ounce or two per gallon of water. So a gallon would be a lifetime supply for you.

Check with some local landscapers and have them come out and give you an estimate in writing and ask them what they will use. If you don't hear them say Confront and that they use a spreader sticker, don't hire them.

Whatever you do, don't use Trugreen/Chemlawn.

MikeA
07-18-2003, 08:47 AM
Thanks for the info. I really do appreciate it. I was able to find Confront over the internet at http://www.carrollgardens.com/productlink.asp?product_id=420-20-13357 in granular form. Do I want it in this form or in a liquid form?

As far as the new grass seed, I planted it about 5 weeks back in two spots and 2 weeks ago in another. I have been watering it religiously 2-3 times a day. I hope it holds. It has been growing pretty good in most places. Weird thing is I planted one side of my house and it grew in very spottty with alot of bald patches. After 4 weeks the bald patches started to fill in.

Let me ask an off topic question also if I could. I put in a patio and 2 weeks back I seed around the 4 sides of the patio. One side of the patio the grass is growing great, the 2 other sides so-so, and the 4th side it is very slow. All the sides get sun and water. I did nothing different. What is up with that? Am I missing something?

Also, it is probably 6-12 inches on each sided that I seeded. It seems like the grass grows faster in the center. So if If the section is 12 inches wide, it is growing great in the middle 3 inches but very slow on the edges. Is that normal?

Thanks for the help

Green Pastures
07-18-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by MikeA
Thanks for the info. I really do appreciate it. I was able to find Confront over the internet at http://www.carrollgardens.com/productlink.asp?product_id=420-20-13357 in granular form. Do I want it in this form or in a liquid form?

I always prefer to do week control with a liquid. Except with pre-emergent. Try to find it in a liquid. You must use a S.S. with it though.

Let me ask an off topic question also if I could. I put in a patio and 2 weeks back I seed around the 4 sides of the patio. One side of the patio the grass is growing great, the 2 other sides so-so, and the 4th side it is very slow. All the sides get sun and water. I did nothing different. What is up with that? Am I missing something?

Could be lots of things. Drainage, something just under the surface like excess concrete, construction trash, etc. I've had "dead spots" in customers lawns that no matter what I did could not get grass to stay there. Dug up the area eventually and found a half full tube of silicon based caulk! I assume it was dumped by the window contractor who put the windows in the new house.

Also, it is probably 6-12 inches on each sided that I seeded. It seems like the grass grows faster in the center. So if If the section is 12 inches wide, it is growing great in the middle 3 inches but very slow on the edges. Is that normal?
Thanks for the help

Yes, lot's of reasons as well. Shade from the surrounding grass, heat from the nearby patio, blah, blah.

MikeA
07-18-2003, 09:20 PM
As far as cutting the new grass.....I was planning on cutting it over the weekend and seeding any bald spots. Sounds like I should make sure it is 3 inches long. Why is that?

BTW, thanks for all of the help. I appreciate it.

Green Pastures
07-18-2003, 09:48 PM
Grass (fescue type) should never be cut under 3", especially in the summer months. I never cut it less than 2 1/2" and only then in the fall when I'm doing leaf clean up.

It develops a better root system if allowed to grow to 3" tall. It shades the ground, keeping the soil temperature lower, I've seen grass roots that have literally been fried. It obviously kills the plant to have fried roots.

Scratch up the bare spots with a rake or something to get the seed INTO the soil, NOT laying on top of the soil. Better contact with the soil means quicker and higher percentage of germination.

Then water every morning for like 2-3 weeks.

Nebraska
07-19-2003, 02:01 AM
They have beautiful purple flowers in Spring to early Summer..

MikeA
08-17-2003, 09:47 PM
I have had no time to take care of my run away wild violet problem. They are spreading and spreading. Since it is mid August already, is there any reason to do anything about them. Will they die out in the winter? I am hoping they die out and come spring I can jump on them at an early stage and keep them in their place.

MikeA
08-21-2003, 04:14 PM
Anybody have an idea?

Thanks

Nebraska
08-21-2003, 06:11 PM
Mike......It's a secret that lawn care professionals would rather you hire them for......

I'll give you a hint: In order to get there you'll need a lot of momentum. :)

GLAN
08-21-2003, 08:20 PM
Mike

the violets will not die over the winter.


do a fall spray application as you have been instructed in the above posts.

Retreat in the spring. Do again next fall if needed.


FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE LABEL

MikeA
08-22-2003, 08:30 AM
Thanks for the info. I was hoping they would die but I guess not. These things really are a pain

MikeA
08-27-2003, 10:38 AM
I have been looking for Confront in liquid form and can't find it on the web or anyplace for that matter. I am not even sure who makes it, I think it is Lebanon though. Can somebody point to either a place to purchase the liquid form on the web, or the manufacturer's web site and I could always ask them.

Thanks

Nebraska
08-27-2003, 05:23 PM
It's going to be difficult to find since anything containing clorpyralid is not labled for use on residential turf anymore. It's a voluntary pull by Dow.

MikeA
08-27-2003, 09:29 PM
Does that mean I won't be able to buy it?

Actually after my post I found it on the interent for $190/gallon. A little much for me since I will probably never use it all. I also found it in the granular form for $50. Will the granular form work just as well?

GLAN
08-28-2003, 10:57 AM
Find anything at your local garden center. Make sure the label list of weeds controled that violets is included.

Mix your spray according to the label, add a sticker according to it's label and apply.

More than likely you will need to retreat in 2 weeks.

NNJLandman
08-28-2003, 08:52 PM
Mike where in NJ are you might be able to help you out.

Nebraska
08-28-2003, 11:27 PM
Mike....

Really, how much time have you spent on this? Just hire it out, spend quality time with your family, and be done with it.

MikeA
08-29-2003, 12:16 AM
I am in central NJ, East Brunswick. And how much time have I spent, not much except for the research. The proper research will limit the time it takes to do the job right the first time.

MikeA
09-09-2003, 09:34 AM
I got some stuff at Home Depot by Ortho. It says is handles wild violets. Thanks for the help on this topic. Hopefully it takes care of the problem