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bobbygedd
07-29-2003, 09:10 AM
it seems we have discussed every single topic related to lawncare, over and over again, and beat it to death for that matter. is there anything left to talk about? its gotten so boring, that every thread turns into bickering and arguing. ive even resorted to telling about my love life(and no one believes me anyway) . and then elephant brain goes and posts that picture of me, after i sent it to him, and he promised he wouldnt post it. think ill take a while off from the site, hope no one misses me. later
ElephantNest
07-29-2003, 09:26 AM
LOL Noooooooo! Leaving? Where will you go? There's no need for you to go making enemies somewhere else, when you're so truly despised here. I agree about things being beaten to death in the forums, because newbies can't for the life of them figure out the SEARCH feature. " Do I need a new mower?" "Belt or hydro?" "Real or fake?" ooops, maybe not that one. But other sites are the same, and I've learned to simply skip over most posts that ask a ? that was posted already 3 topics down. But I still learn from here, enjoy the comradere, and also like to help out new people whenever possible, like some have done for me. And after seeing mower_babe's picture, good luck dragging me outta' here!
See you soon, Bobby. You'll be back, and we'll be here saving your seat. ( With whoopie cushion on it of course)
~Nest
walker-talker
07-29-2003, 09:43 AM
Don't go......bobbygedd......come back!!!!.........bobbygedd....
Ok seriously, I believe you lovelife story....really, I do!!!
No....really serious this time. I actually find some of your stories very humorous and breaks up some of the hum -drum threads that have been coming up lately. Yeah, you would think we have talked about everything, but you have to remember we are having more and more people join this site which brings new insight to the same 'ol subjects. I love to see others new set-ups for fall clean-ups. I enjoy hearing of others marketing campaigns....success stories as well as stories of failures.....pricing structures.....projecting a professional image (love the one Jim Lewis posted recently)....and the list goes on.
I have to admit, the threads asking "should I get a Walker or Exmark", yes those are getting old. Maybe there should be a forum created that is titled "complaints" where we can go and talk to each other and speak out mind freely without censorship or moderators....you know, "tell us how you really feel about ultimate lawn", with no fears of getting banned, but I really don't see that happening. I am bored and this all I could come up with.
MATT
Sorry UL, you get picked on the most so your name just came to mind.
Lombardi
07-29-2003, 09:45 AM
The "Do a search" response is what is getting beat to death. There are new members logged on every day and they all can share their insight and personal experiences on topics that have been discussed before. If you want all newbies to just "do a search" instead of asking questions that are important to them, this will become a very boring site.
Cooper Landscaping
07-29-2003, 09:49 AM
I have to agreed with Lombardi on the most part, bu on the other hand there are some subjects that have absoltely been beat to death and a lot of people won't even read the threads with titles like "Exmark v. Walker" or "Mulching or bagging?" For the most part the only time i post a reply of "search" is when it will truly benefit them or if everyone else refuses to answer or even look at the thread.
-Coop
drobson
07-29-2003, 09:56 AM
The best of both worlds would be for them to do a search first and do some reading, then they can ask more educated questions and make comments on what they have already learned.
Although I do have to admit that when I search on some items I find information that is old and outdated. You are more likely to get quality information by posting the question directly.
LawnMower
07-29-2003, 10:09 AM
I guess every conversation in life has been talked about before at some point. Just not with the same people day after day, like in this forum. But the newbeez have never talked about it before.
One of the great things about a forum, is the personal conversations. Ya, others have asked the same questions before, but it wasn't you asking them. The people were answering someone else's questions, not yours. Even if was the exact same question. Every one wants to feel special. Doing the search feature takes away the personal touch and makes ya feel less special.
Especially the guys that mow by them self's. They cant wait to get home to jump on LawnSite.com just to talk to someone. If I had to use the search feature after a long lonely day of not talking to anyone, I would start talking to my self. That's all fine and dandy as long as im not in the check out line somewhere talking to my self.
The search feature is great, and I do use it all the time. But I love the personal responses to my questions even though they've been asked so many times before.
I feel special, lol.
The influx of new members keeps any topic alive.......................
Like with everthing else...............a break is needed time to time...........See ya soon Bobby :)
dvmcmrhp52
07-29-2003, 11:37 AM
Why would I want to spend an hour of my time doing a search and coming up with totally unrelated subjects rather than just ask my question?It seems to me it is the self appointed know it alls that are getting boring around here.And as well I am about where bobbygedd is with this site and the constant personal attacks and bickering and whining etc.It is a great place to learn if some people would just get off their high horses.
nuff said.
Ah yes dvm
This industry is very "ME" oriented. That is why the clashing of opinions.
I know I am guilty of it, as is everyone here. Problem is where one is not willing to accept the opinion of another. Those that have that difficulty will no doubt have some difficulty relating with their customers, and more than likely just about everyone they meet.
Does not make them a bad person.
It's not easy for some to grasp that another may have a better idea. Or another may be doing it all wrong. It is all in the perception of the individual. One goes through life knowing they are allways right, will most like never know or understand that they might be wrong. Let alone a better or easier way.
Humanity is a creature of habit. Left alone repeating over and over. Then only they are correct.
An open mind is so desperately needed in this business. Having an open mind relates directly to not performing an operation only based on the fact of the date. Nature throws curves at us all the time. One must adapt. Same goes with interelations with each other......................
dvmcmrhp52
07-29-2003, 12:10 PM
Well said Glan,
Have to get back to it,Have a good day.
mower_babe
07-29-2003, 12:36 PM
Don't leave us Bobby, as Elephant so nicely stated: why go anywhere else to make enemies, I mean..er friends?
You are the one that shakes it up around here. I agree that things might get a bit boring around here, but such is life.
Don't worry, I am sure tomorrow some hot little 20something that you mow for, is gonna try to molest you and you will do the respectable thing and write about it here. ;) just kidding - you know you are loved. :p
Don't leave or I am going with you - wait, that might not be much of a deterrent!
:blob1:
parkwest
07-29-2003, 12:55 PM
bobby, I don't know of anyway possible for someone to go directly from New Jersey to Idaho... I think the culture shock killed too many that tried and so it's be outlawed, I guess... anyhow if you do make it out here, stop in and the first round is on me. lol
Fvstringpicker
07-29-2003, 03:43 PM
My sentiments on the general "do a search" response.
do a search = old ideas and old information
answer their question = new ideas and current information
I won't be able to live with myself if your gone dude! Amongst all the BS and "my mower is better than your mower" we can always count on you to add some leavity or comic relief intermixed with good advice. :cry:
MOW ED
07-29-2003, 04:16 PM
You want to join the ranks of Stone, Phil Nillson, ah mayby your better off gone.
Just kidding, I wouldnt know what to do if I didn't see a new thread with your name on it. Change your focus, take a vacation but don't leave.
KirbysLawn
07-29-2003, 04:17 PM
"do a search = old ideas and old information "
Really? Last time I checked The BR 400 had the same power now as it did 3 years ago. The rate for Dimension, Primo Maxx, Banner Maxx, Compass, Momentum, and so on also has not changed in quite a while. The debate about "what blower is best" also seems to be the same. What about trimmers? We had THREE threads running consecutively a few weeks ago about which trimmer is best.
The information on doubles seem to be unchanged, mulching kits without baffles still throw the grass in your face, Peltor Selects are still the red ones, aeration is still the process of punching holes in the ground, and it goes on and on.
Now, here's the problem. When the search feature is ignored, and a new thread is started without looking for the answer the topics and the function it's self become diluted, finding the answer does become more difficult. If someone was looking for an answer, found a thread that had most of the information, and even if it was outdated they posted their question in that thread, they would still get the answer they were looking for, the "old" information would be viewed by newer members, and information related to certain topics would stay in one place, one thread, instead of 50.
Shame is some of the "old and outdated" information that was posted by people like Lazer, EricELM, GroundKprs, Stone, Thelawnguy, Southside, Ed, Homer, Guido, and many more is going unread. People who took the time to share their information, the same information that is still useful today.
bastalker
07-29-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by bobbygedd
it seems we have discussed every single topic related to lawncare, over and over again, and beat it to death for that matter. is there anything left to talk about? its gotten so boring, that every thread turns into bickering and arguing. ive even resorted to telling about my love life(and no one believes me anyway) . and then elephant brain goes and posts that picture of me, after i sent it to him, and he promised he wouldnt post it. think ill take a while off from the site, hope no one misses me. later
Hey bobby even when there aint no more to talk about, somethin always comes up to talk about:D
Originally posted by KirbysLawn
"do a search = old ideas and old information "
Shame is some of the "old and outdated" information that was posted by people like Lazer, EricELM, GroundKprs, Stone, Thelawnguy, Southside, Ed, Homer, Guido, and many more is going unread. People who took the time to share their information, the same information that is still useful today.
Kirby,
I agree, there some really good info here, just have to search for it. by the way where is Homer haven't seen him here for awhile?
Rustic Goat
07-30-2003, 03:03 AM
Bobby, isn't that a line from the movie 'The Jerk'?
Originally posted by mower_babe You are the one that shakes it up around here.
Don't say that! Now look what you've done, what's that stain on his pants, no wait, I REALLY don't want to know.
Is he gone yet?
Bobby, you know you're just looking for attention, hope you got what you deserve here.
Really, is he gone yet?
OK, now it's really time to bring out the good stuff!
Doc Pete
07-30-2003, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Rustic Goat
OK, now it's really time to bring out the good stuff!
Here it is.... Anyone want a sip???:D
new info ,meshes with the old.
that way u keep up with whats currently the best. or at least currently. thot to be the best.
a good example is ive madethe full circle back to using a hand file on my blades.
i wouldnt even think about putting a grinder on a blade unless it was so bad that i needed the the grinder to get to a starting place for the file.
ps my grinder blades of the past would have all fit into that category.i dont look at nothin that dull after a days cutting anymore.loto metal being wasted out there. considering the edge of a grinder
shapened blade,really does just last a matter of hrs.to me its as simple as two and two is four. just my example of new method, old method,. and new again:) time tells the story,everytime. even if she does,change her story now an again.
mower_babe
07-30-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Rustic Goat
OK, now it's really time to bring out the good stuff!
LMAO!
what good stuff, Goat??:D
GraZZmaZter
07-30-2003, 11:45 AM
mower_babe - how come i didnt get to see a pic???
Walker talker - are you referring to jim's thread "how to win at the LCO game"? Best thread ive read on here!
walker-talker
07-30-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by GraZZmaZter
mower_babe - how come i didnt get to see a pic???
Walker talker - are you referring to jim's thread "how to win at the LCO game"? Best thread ive read on here!
Yeppers.....that would be the one. Great stuff and oh so true.
MATT
Doc Pete
07-30-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by bobbygedd
it seems we have discussed every single topic related to lawncare, over and over again, and beat it to death for that matter. is there anything left to talk about? its gotten so boring, that every thread turns into bickering and arguing.
FWIW,
Part of being a teacher is never tiring of teaching the same old stuff over and over again. Actually, as each newbie asks the same question in a different way, it’s still an enjoyment when they take our information and mold it to fit their particular needs. Along the way, we also learn by taking their “spin” on our thoughts, adding it to our library of knowledge, and become “again” ready with bigger and better ways to help the next newbie.
So far, I haven’t tired of helping……………
bobbygedd
07-31-2003, 12:35 AM
lookin for attention? my furry oozing buttocks! im not looking for attention, and im certainly not going to another site, this is the best one there is (besides, i dont know any other sites) . its just been very boring here lately. i didnt miss it at all, yup, after 2 days, 9 hours, and 11 minutes, i didnt miss it at all. besides, i got a few things to post.
parkwest
07-31-2003, 12:48 AM
bobby, it take you that long to look at a map and see that I was right there is no easy way to get here from there for the "free" beer?
Welcome back and help me figure out what mower babe is up to with having everyone post their mugshots. She's up to no good, I know it! I just can't figure out the angle she's working unless she's starting her own love connection website and needed photos to start it????
bobbygedd
07-31-2003, 12:52 AM
yea i dont know whats up with her, i think shes just boy crazy. where the heck is idaho anyway?
parkwest
07-31-2003, 01:06 AM
yea bobby, I've been concerned about her for a while now. Seems like something happened to her after she read the hook-up topic. Seems like she hasn't been herself since. LOL
Idaho is... well let's see... from Jersey you would... hmmm! Just head west until you hit the Pacific, then backpedal a little.
mower_babe
07-31-2003, 09:27 AM
ok - YUK, just YUK. nothing more to say about Bobbys backside!
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anyway, i am telling you - I have used to learn my powers for good and not evil. I am not up to nuttin with the pictures. I swear..........
turfcare
07-31-2003, 05:17 PM
I have to agree with Bobby! I have not been using this site for a couple of weeks until today. This site has gotten pretty boring and quite frankly I have gotten tired of people being to serious and arguing. It also gets pretty old reading "use the search". Why even post a question or make a comment? If everything has already been discussed then why even have a forum. I think some of you think this should be a search only site. New people join this site every week and I think it would be good to hear their opinions about anything whether they are new to this business or a seasoned veteran! Just my two cents worth. I think I am going to a more friendly forum in my spare time for a while. One on my true passion "Hunting". Bobby I'm sure you'll appreciate that!
A1 Grass
07-31-2003, 06:26 PM
I kinda like the fact that the same questions get asked a lot - I read them so much that I can now answer those questions instead of asking (though I might be BS'ing a little)!
Fvstringpicker
07-31-2003, 06:44 PM
If folks don't want to use the search, it's going to be hard to stop them.
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