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AB Lawn Care
10-03-2000, 10:13 AM
What are your thoughs on using a flat bed vs a box?

TLS
10-03-2000, 10:24 AM
I use a 16' tandem axle trailer. I installed a 50" curb side gate (at front) that I keep my 48" SCAG in. The back gate lets my DIXIE (soon to be 27hp Lazer) come off without moving another mower. My Lawnboy is in between the two. I have Trimmer trap on drivers side with Echo trimmers and edger. BP blower (Echo/LESCO) is behind scag. I back entire trailer in garage every night (just fits length wise). I have a 7.5' high garage door, so an enclosed trailer is not an option for me. Plus I can walk up to any side of my trailer and hop up and go. Or grab a tool and go. I don't lock my equipment. I live in a fairly good area, and besides thats why I have $25,000 worth of contractors tool insurance!

AB Lawn Care
10-03-2000, 02:24 PM
Sorry I should have maby explained a bit better.I'm talking about pick-up truck boxes vs installing a flat rack or bed in place of a box.I use a trailer,I just want to know if any of you guys like/dislike using a flat bed in place of your box?

scottb
10-03-2000, 03:21 PM
If I had a truck i was willing to dedicate to a work truck only I would switch to a flat bed. Growing up on a farm it sure was nice to use. From what I see from the local large Landscape companies it looks like the way to go for hauling equipment.

AB Lawn Care
10-04-2000, 12:25 PM
I have really been thinking of using flat beds in my trucks.Here is why-

1 will take a very long time to wear out

2 will not rust out like a box will

3 cheaper that getting a body job on your box every 5 years,or ever 3 years up here in canada!

4 it can be customized to your set up.Trimmer racks,blower racks and so on.I have a blower rack on my truck box,but the blower gives my paint on the box a beeting.

5 if you use simliar trucks you can allways use the flat bed on an other truck if your truck dies.

Does anyone else use flat beds unstead of boxes????

Acute Cut
10-04-2000, 04:16 PM
I switched my 73 chevy box in for a self made bed. the only real problem is that i can now carry only about 1/3 of the amount of grass in the back. I made the sides of my bed in such a way that i can take them off and use them as ramps to load mowers into the bed without any help. I have a trailer, but the ramps are for emergencies and to send a one man crew out on a quick job if need be and leave the trailer with the big job.

the removable sides do help in unloading things thought. Brances take NO time whatsoever now. Ill post pics later when i get the chance.

not sure if i helped ya at all. Sorry.

Acute Cut

Twotoros
10-04-2000, 04:55 PM
I love my toyota flatbed. I can carry 2-21" , a 36" , trmmer and blower. Two utility boxes under the bed and in the front of the bed I have a box for up to 70 cu. foot of grass . The big plus is getting in tight drives on busy roads and other hairy spots. Also have a 82 gmc disel 4x4 that has a custom bed some built . I could put a small rider or a larger walk if i had them plus 2 21"ers etc. I put utilty boxes on this one also .

AB Lawn Care
10-04-2000, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the replys!

That is a neat idea for using the sides for ramps!I may just use that!

Any one else use flat beds?

Have any pictures????

thanks!

slingshot
10-04-2000, 08:15 PM
all my trucks are 8x10 or 8x12 flatbed stakebody dumps except for 1 pickup and they are duell wheel 1 tons. the flat bed is alot better than a pickup box for us. take the racks off in a min and load or unload from all sides plus you can fit alot more on the truck i will post pics soon

Tim1075
10-04-2000, 08:41 PM
Do any of you find it easier to plow with a flatbed rather than a rack body or box or some sort?

AB Lawn Care
10-04-2000, 08:51 PM
I don't use plow trucks,but I bet you would have a better view when backing up!

Twotoros
10-04-2000, 11:25 PM
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1246404&a=9209117&p=29932478&Sequence=0&res=high

Thanks Kirby and Eric for helping me get posting a pic right
This is my 82 I aquired when I bought out another biz this spring . I had some changes made to the bed and added the utility boxes .

[Edited by Twotoros on 10-05-2000 at 03:27 AM]

Scotty
10-04-2000, 11:27 PM
We use a 1 ton 4x4 with a 8' x 9' dumping flatbed. During spring and fall clean ups we install 42'' solid stake sides

Hardy Enterprises
10-04-2000, 11:51 PM
I have '99 F350 with a flatbed. I personally like the flatbed to work out of. It is a lot easier when loading pallets on the truck. There also easier to customize to your particular needs. The one disadvantage is if don't have sides on it you have to tie stuff down more.

Jay

AB Lawn Care
10-05-2000, 09:46 AM
Twotoros-That's a great flat body you have on that truck!Me and my partner where toying with having a beaver tail on the bed like your's.Did that truck have a short box?It looks like it has a short wheel base?

Runner
10-05-2000, 10:01 AM
Gary,
That's a pretty cool kennel for huntin' dogs on that truck! Here in Michigan, according to state vehicle code, any stake bed, dually or not, that tows a trailer MUST be registered with a G.V.W. registration. This costs about $400.00 on top of the cost of a "commercial" plate. Gets me everytime.

Getmow
10-05-2000, 07:15 PM
See if this works. This is what I use.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1248301&a=9224893&p=30012516

turfman99
10-05-2000, 08:04 PM
We are using F 250's with the dump box insert. Your money returns to you on that investment in about 18 months. We're in and out of hte dump before most guys even get started. I use three of those with 16 foot single axle trailers. Switching over to enclosed trailers next spring.

I also use two Klip King trailers with the hydraulic dump loader and box. 1 22 foot and one 15 foot Klip King.

I will try and post pictures in the few days. I'll probably start a new thread.

I have mixed feelings on the Klip Kings for route work. We use both those on dedicated sites. They work pretty good for one or two stops a day, but much more that that and they eat fuel up fast.

jaclawn
10-06-2000, 08:11 AM
AB Do you meen a fleetside pickup bed when you say Box?

southside
10-06-2000, 09:27 AM
I have a 1990 Mitsubishi Canter (aka Fuso) with a 15' flat tray body.I use a pair of 9' ramps to load the Walker on and
off. I'll get a pic up soon.

Jaclawn, I think he means a pantech body. (aka cube body)

Karl

Acute Cut
10-06-2000, 09:52 AM
Getmow:
Cool truck. I just recently saw one of those in a magazine. What do you think of it? What all can you fit on there? Is it "easier" for employees to drive? Yada yada yada, and so on and so forth.

Acute Cut

AB Lawn Care
10-06-2000, 10:11 AM
I mean the box that comes on the truck from the factory.Sorry if I was not clear about that.

Twotoros
10-07-2000, 01:17 PM
A-B , I think it had a standard bed . The wheelbase looks short because of the beavertail. I'd like to sell it and get a Bering with the 16' landscape bed.



[Edited by Twotoros on 10-07-2000 at 05:28 PM]

Twotoros
10-07-2000, 01:29 PM
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1246404&a=9209117&p=30021952&Sequence=0&res=high

My other truck (86 toyota) came with Omaha standard bed and racks and has had modifications to the bed twice . Two years ago I put a second layer of steel over the bed to make two 8'pullout ramps . Only 62000 miles on this thing.

[Edited by Twotoros on 10-07-2000 at 05:33 PM]

AB Lawn Care
10-07-2000, 03:33 PM
Hey that's a real neat toyota dually!Up here in canada I have only seen toyota duallys in the form of RV's and I have seen a dually toyota cube-truck.Are there very many in your area?????

Thanks for the pics!

Twotoros
10-07-2000, 06:27 PM
A-B , I have seen a fair amount of duelly with a shorter bed but mine is the only I have seen with the 10'. Don't know what they make now .

AB Lawn Care
10-08-2000, 10:33 PM
You have a couple of real neat setups there twotoros!Thanks for the input and pictures!

bob
10-08-2000, 10:41 PM
http://www.superlawntrucks.com/

Scag48
10-09-2000, 12:39 AM
Bob,
Thats a cool truck. The only problem is that the ramp is too long. It would seem to me that it would be a pain in the *** to find a good place to park. The truck is pretty big also. I think twotoros has the best setup. Anything that with fit a ZTR, a midsize walkbehind and maybe a 21" would work. I guess if you had 2 ZTRs, a trailer would be better.

[Edited by Eric ELM on 10-09-2000 at 05:39 AM]

AB Lawn Care
10-10-2000, 10:09 AM
Sorry scag48-I have to disagree with you there.Those superlawn trucks a supercompact.It may not look that way but if you placed a f-150 with only a medium trailer behind it you would see that those superlawn trucks are very compact.Did you know that they have the same turning circle as a f-150?????????

Getmow
10-10-2000, 12:02 PM
I have looked at these trucks and know the builder. A fantastic truck for lawn and landscape maitenance. With a price tag of $40 - $45K it is a steep investment but one that would pay off. The Izusu is a reliable platform and Tony has this system figured out. So if you are going to buy a $30K truck and a $5K enclosed trailer it might be worth the extra for one of these.

Twotoros
10-10-2000, 06:04 PM
Those superlawn trucks are nice but if you have to do some bagging where do you haul it. I would guess you have to have another truck following????/