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mtdman
08-04-2003, 08:00 PM
When I was a little kid, one of the best things I got to do was help my dad mow the lawn. In my earlier years, I was in charge of picking up sticks and debris in the yard. As I grew, I got to actually push the mower for half the yard, and help my dad empty the grass catcher. The best part about it wasn't the actual cutting, it was the time I spent with my dad. Father and son bonding time. He taught me how to mow a yard, and it was a cool thing. Along with listening to Ernie Harwell and Paul Carey do Tiger's games on the back porch, mowing the lawn with my dad is one of my favorite childhood memories.

When I was in Jr High School, I was cutting for a few neighbors and making a modest amount of $$ as well. I started with a few, but was soon doing a half dozen lawns on the block. I soon gave that up for the better income of a paper route, but I always enjoyed mowing our yard at home, and doing a few folks when they were on vacation. After my grandpa died, I was in charge of cutting my grandmother's lawn. Again, the best thing about that wasn't the cutting but the time I spent with her talking and eating the sandwhiches she made.

Fast forward to college, early 1990s. I came home from school for the summer after freshman year and found that my best friend was working for a landscaper in town. Didn't know much about that kind of stuff, and never thought that people could actually make money mowing lawns. Up until that time, it had never occured to me that people would pay an actual company to take care of their lawns. Most of my neighbors were still using the kid down the street and giving him $5 to cut the lawn. This whole idea of a lawn care company was new to me, and very attractive as well. I started paying attention to the lawn crews that would cut the mini-mall down the street, and quickly became jealous of the big mowers and cool machinery. 'What a great job', I thought. But the summer job I did have and the classes I took during the spring term kept me from taking any lawn care jobs for the summer.

Fast forward 4 years to the end of my 5th year at U of M. I was bored to death with school, it had become apparent that I was not going to med school with the grades I had in college, and I couldn't stand the research job I had at a cancer lab at the Hospital. A life devoted to science and biology wasn't exactly what I thought it would be, and certainly didn't pay that well. Everything I thought I wanted to do in life was not working out, and I dropped out of school with 3 classes left to take to graduate.

That summer a friend that I met working at a local grocery store and I started a lawn business. The idea, at first, was to make a few $$ on the side by mowing a few lawns in the area. Advertise in the paper and get maybe 10 or so old ladies that needed the help. I wanted to start small with push mowers and cheap equipment. He wanted to go out and buy all brand new big stuff before we even had a contract. We ended up with a mixture of small equipment at first, then buying a walk behind after a month or so. That summer saw us doing everything from mowing lawns to (badly) landscaping to installing brick pavers. That partner and I never quite saw eye to eye, and eventually we agreed to call it quits. He bought me out for $500 and kept the company. I went back to working at the grocery store and wondering what the hell I was going to do with my life, and if I would ever go back to school???

mtdman
08-04-2003, 08:11 PM
That following winter was a bad one for me. I was young and pissed off. Didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. The job I had sucked, my car died, and I was pretty broke. I wasn't real happy with the way the previous year's attempt to start up went, and I was convinced I could do much better. It was a long, cold, angry winter for me.

When Spring arrived, it was like a rebirth. I managed to get the vehicle running, and I was determined to start again with my lawn business. I decided to enter into a new partnership with a different coworker who I had known for quite a while prior to working together, and considered a friend. We started out by buying a craftsman mower, a ryobi trimmer and a hand held blower. We worked out of the trunk of my car, and managed to hold a whole 12 customers through the year. It wasn't a very fruitful enterprise, but it was a great learning experience. We made enough to add a second push mower and pay off all the equipment. Not bad for part time work.

The next year I moved up to a pickup truck and we started early with advertising. We did the paper, made fliers, went door to door, everything we could think of to get work. By May we had a customer base of 50 clients and we were working 5 days a week, half days after work. We had a nice flow of cash, and saved enough to buy a 52 inch walk behind and trailer. At leaf time we added a back pack blower, and made even more doing leaf cleanups. Things were definitely looking up.

mtdman
08-04-2003, 08:16 PM
The next season, our third, I quit my grocery store job to do mowing full time. I got a lot of slack from that. Many of my family and friends were giving me a hard time about going back to school, or looking for a 'real' job. They were sure I'd end up in the poor house broke by the end of the summer. No one wanted to consider that lawn care was a respectable job or that I could make a good living doing it. Why was I wasting my life and education doing lawn care? Why don't you go out and get a regular job, working for someone else? Everyone shook their heads at Tom, the lawn mowing underachiever.

Well, that third year we went from 50 customers to 100 full time clients, and moved up to full time. We worked our butts off all summer, saved more $$ and bought more professional equipment. I made more than enough to support myself, and a little to get me through the winter. We also attempted our first snow plowing season, which was a whole story in itself. Underachieving or not, we were full time, making $$, and doing fine.

mtdman
08-04-2003, 08:26 PM
The next three years was more growth, more $$, more stability, and more hassels. We reached a point where we didn't want to expand more, or start another crew, and just maintained our customer base. We added more services, tried a few things we didn't like, and gained experience. The whole time I kept hearing people ask me when I was going to get a 'real' job, and quit the lawn bizz. I just shook my head and told them I had a real job.

On the advice of my now wife, I did go back to school and get my degree. But having a biology degree, and taking 10 years to get it, really didn't qualify me for more than maybe teaching. I was pretty happy with my business, and I was my own boss. I didn't see the advantage in giving up the lawn care bizz just to get a 9 to 5 job that maybe paid a bit more, working for someone else. The bottom line is, whether or not people believe that lawn care is a 'real' job or profession, I make a living and support myself and my family. I don't answer to anyone but myself and my customers, I am the boss. That's something that appeals to me, and when I look back at my employment history, it's the type of job and employment situation I've always enjoyed the most. I've also studied web design at the local community college, and I may be the most over educated lawn care pro in the area. Underachiever or not, I'm happy and I plan on keeping at it.

My partner in the business quit this year, after 7 years together. I think he was not as suited to the life as I am, and not necessarily as enamored with the self-employed aspect of the job. I am still good friends with him, and he helps me out from time to time when I get behind. I've had to downsize to about 75 accounts per week (from about 110), but I am making way more money now than ever. I don't plan on quitting anytime soon, and I am unsure as to whether or not I will expand. It's all up to me, and it's all in the future.

:D

poconorudylawncare
08-05-2003, 02:17 PM
your story should be put in book form I guess your living proof of what happens when people just listein to themselves
awesome story

PPLMike
08-16-2003, 10:19 PM
Great story.

Mithrandir
08-27-2003, 08:35 PM
Great story Tom. I agree with you that I would rather do something I love and be my own boss. Never let anyone tell you that you cannot do what you set your mind to :)

leadarrows
08-27-2003, 10:23 PM
I appreciate your taking the time to post your story. Being in business for your self is rewarding but scary some times. Your story is well written and inspiring. Thanks.

mtdman
09-02-2003, 11:30 PM
Thank you all. I hope to keep adding chapters for quite a while. And I am always willing to answer questions from newbies.

:D

Ozi_Brisbane
09-04-2003, 09:38 PM
I can relate to your story.

I spent far too many years at university getting degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. None of them made me happy. Mowing does.

Sure I'm overqualified for the job, just like you. But it makes me tremendously happy. I tried the 9-5 job. Money was excellent, but the work conditions weren't. I never knew how long I'd have my job. It all depended on some idiotic managers making the right decisions. No thanks. I like to direct my own life and not leave it in the hands of others.

If I succeed it will be due to my own efforts; if I fail, this too is due to my efforts ( or lack of them).

You made a good choice, mate! You must do what makes you happy, not something that just has prestige attached, but makes you miserable. Life is too short for that.

Oz.

GLAN
09-14-2003, 07:43 PM
Very nice story, extremely well written......:)

T.E.
09-25-2003, 12:02 AM
Enjoyed your story very much!

HOMER
10-08-2003, 06:58 AM
It reminds me of Rayn Newman...........he has an engineering degree and look what he did with it.............drives a stupid car around a track! I'm sure he was told to get a real job too.

Keep the positive attitude and stay within your limitations and you'll do just fine.

turf9
02-01-2004, 09:17 PM
I really enjoyed that story mybe one more kick at the cat is in order thank again

Green Finger
02-06-2004, 09:00 AM
Good story, very inspirational.:angel:

Rossislawn
02-06-2004, 03:08 PM
Man that was a sweet story. Your motivation for all us new guy's. Thank you for the push.

BCF
02-06-2004, 07:09 PM
That's a good story when work is slow and even you're having a hard time believing in yourself. Thanks.

Ursushorribilus
02-06-2004, 10:04 PM
Yes, very inspirational...I'm seeing a common thread here...individualist/loners with drive, square pegs with no desire to fit in with the round multitudes, who want to define their own existence...I see this pattern again and again on this site. Your story is well told. Tony

mtdman
02-15-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by BCF
That's a good story when work is slow and even you're having a hard time believing in yourself. Thanks.

I think the number one thing I have to thank for where I am today is my determination. There were many times when I thought I should just give it up, many times when I was discouraged and bummed out. I just kept putting my head down, ignoring what everyone else was saying, and pushing through. Lots of bigger companies would laugh at us when we were just newbies, but I ignored them and I was convinced that doing things differently, not like everyone else, would teach me more and get me further than the rest of the pack. Maybe I was stupid, maybe I was determined, but I just kept pushing and didn't stop. Get that attitude, and keep it, and you'll do fine.

:D :D

bobdawg
02-18-2004, 01:17 PM
My story is not really a story, but more of an intro. In May of 2002 my father and I were getting ready to mow at his house and my grandmother's house. They are each on four acres of land. It took two of us all day to mow, trim and cleanup both properties. Before we started my Dad sat on one of the ride-ons and looked me in the eyes. I never saw the look of fear in anyone like I did this day. After a few gulps he told me with teary eyes that he had cancer. He fought hard, but lost in January of 2003. The best memories I have of my father are those days when we got together and mowed the fields. When he died, I realized that I took life for granted. I also realized that some parts of our lives are more important than other parts. Specifically, I realized that it's not all that bad to have dreams and try to achieve them, no matter what people think. I too have a college degree and work 9 to 5 as a PC Technician. I make decent money, but hate the whole corporate mentality. My boss got laid off 5 months ago after being with the company for 12 years. 12 Years! He devoted 75% of his life in that 12 years to working for this company. He missed out on watching his children grow up and his devotion to the job created tension in his marriage. He basically sacrificed his family to the company and the corporate suits just said one day "sorry, but we have to cut back". I just won't let that happen to me. These are the reasons why I'm starting over soon. Right or wrong. I'm going to get all my ducks in a row, and devise a solid business plan. And then, I'm outta there! Sure, I won't make a lot of money in the beginning. That's OK. My lifestyle doesn't require much. I'll make it through, and one day a couple of years down the road I'll post my success story here. It's refreshing to hear stories from people that had the same drive, ambition and vision that I now have. Thanks for the inspiration.

jasond
03-03-2004, 09:57 AM
Good reading...this work is satisfying work...and anyone that knocks it is obviously insecure about themselves.

Just a quick insight for you in regards to those around you who always made recommendations to get a 'real' job.

Back in the late 30's, my grandfather was a milk man, and delivered milk to over 600 homes daily in Sacramento, CA. Often times, he would greet doctors, lawyers, professors, etc. and they would always treat him second class (after all, he was ONLY a milkman). Well, he only work 6 hours a day, from 4:30 AM until 10:30 AM, and made over 35K per year (which nowadays would be over 100K).

He told me this story last year when I expressed to him how certain people (relatives, friends, etc.) would make fun of what I did. He told me he always got the last laugh, and that what was drove him to being so successful. He said that everytime he saw one of his customers, that when he said, "Good Morning", he would always whisper to himself 'ASHOLE' afterwards!!!! LOL

He volunteered for duty in WW2, and then life changed for him...but being a milkman definately gave him a great outlook on life.

Good luck to you in your endeavors!

stxkyboy
06-17-2004, 12:32 AM
If you had worked a little harder in school u could be making 200 to 600 grand right now as a doctor.... just a thought....its working hard when it matters thats what counts

bnphelps
06-24-2004, 09:48 AM
Enjoyed the story. I can also relate. I'm a professional nuclear engineer working for a electric utility in N.C. but also maintain a small lawn business on the side. The utility has a flex schedule and allows employees to work four 10 hour days. I operate my lawn business on Thursday evenings and Friday. I have 22 customers and also maintain the common grounds area and three well lots owned by the local water company. All of my customers are located in the subdivision where I live so I have no driving time and STILL have the weekends free (though I must admit my Fridays are very intense)! My fellow co-woking engineers used to give me greif about my lawn business but I'd let them know that I was making more $$ per hour walking behind my mower than they were in that stale office envirnoment!

txlawnking
06-26-2004, 03:18 PM
When I first came to this site, you were one of the few people whose opinion I respected, and your story confirms my belief in my own biz aspirations, thanks , man.

mtdman
06-28-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by stxkyboy
If you had worked a little harder in school u could be making 200 to 600 grand right now as a doctor.... just a thought....its working hard when it matters thats what counts

LOL! If I hadn't spent all my time watching cartoons, you mean? Nah, being a doctor wasn't for me, it really wasn't what I was interested in. After working in the lab and being around MD/PhDs all the time, I realized it just wasn't for me. Those people are incredibly dedicated and totally into what they do, and are some brilliant people. And they also spend ALL their time doing it. The guy I worked for would sleep at his office 5 nights a week, had been divorced twice. Despite the fact he was a doctor and made lots of $$, I couldn't see that he ever did anything to enjoy it. Not to mention he spent 12 years in school nonstop to get there.

I spent 5 years at UofM, all were miserable. I enjoyed the education, but I did not fit in with the expectations everyone else had of life after school. Didn't know what I wanted to do. I certainly didn't look forward to spending my life in the professional rat race, and after spending 2 years working in a lab under ground with no exposure to the outdoors, I hated the thought of being trapped inside a building for the rest of my life. It just wasn't for me, and that's okay.

My philosophy is this: There are lots of different things to do in this world, do what makes you happy. I created a business from scratch and I get to work in a field that I enjoy. I'm outside all day, I get 4 months off a year, and I'm the boss. While many people have asked me when I'm getting a real job, when I'm going to do something with all that expensive education, why I'm doing lawn care, I don't give a crap about that. I'm happy doing what I'm doing, and I got there on my own. But at the same time, I realize it's not for everyone and wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wasn't really into it, just like I wouldn't recommend being a doctor to anyone who wasn't really into it.

txlawnking, THANKS!!

:D

Island Lawn
10-28-2004, 01:55 PM
Great story!
Thanks for sharing.

I ended up just short of a masters degree after 11 years at 7 different colleges.

Underachievement is Underappreciated!!!

mtdman
10-28-2004, 10:12 PM
Great story!
Underachievement is Underappreciated!!!


Amen to that!

:D

205mx
04-08-2014, 10:10 PM
Where are you now?
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whiffyspark
04-08-2014, 10:29 PM
Subscribed
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Armsden&Son
04-08-2014, 10:37 PM
He hasn't been on since 2012...

Cool story though...

205mx
04-09-2014, 08:13 AM
Yeah, but what's the end game?
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