Tt/tthp '04

[LawnJoe]

I just spoke to my dealer today to see if see if he would try to find out if the '04's would have either a higher horse power (19 or above) on the TTHP or offer a 48 inch deck on the full size TT. He just called me and said its a no to both of those. Is that what you hear on your end? Has anyone else heard anything?

[ULTIMATE LAWN]

Please Give us a Clue eXmark.

I need another 48" and am seriously considering the Hustler Super 48" WB w/23 Kaw if eXmark doesn't at Least put a 19 on the 48".

I really don't want the Hustler But the eXtra HP on the 48" is needed.

Give us a Hint!

[eXmark]

Guys,

It doesn't look like we are going to have anything larger that 17 hp on the TThp for 04. Nothing is 100% certain until the first one rolls off the assembly line but it looks like the 17 is the engine we'll be using right now.

The closest I can get is the TT52 with a 20hp, 23ph Kohler or a 23 hp Kawasaki.

Thanks

Terry

[GeorgiaGrassMan]

I love my new 48" TTHP, but I do have one (and only one) complaint. It needs more HP for mulching.

[LawnJoe]

Thank-you very much. It helps a great deal in my decision making. Both are still great machines! Exmark makes a good product and I'm stickin' with them.
Joe

[MacLawnCo]

what a crying shame. at least Hustler listens to what their customers actually want (super wb). Terry, how hard is it for you guys to add an extra engine option...you already have the 23 kaw sitting in the factory for the TT. Saddly there is appearing to be a dishearening trend with exmark. Whats up with this bull?

[PaulJ]

Are you listening exmark?

More horse power on the 48" Please
is what i'm hearing. Several times.
48" not 52"

The horspower is one of the reasons I will probably be buying a Hustler.

[eXmark]

Guys,

We hear you. The TTHP chassis as with most of the walk behind line (exception is the TT) was designed for engines of a given dimension, power and weight.

That being said with a large increase in power, weight and vibration we would probably run the entire machine through our testing program as if it were a totally new design that had never been tested. There's a reason why our stuff works, aside from a few little glitches here and there. The last thing we want to do is bring a proven design to market with a new engine that creates performance or durability issues. I've talked to engineering and our product development group and they are all aware of your desire for more power.

Your suggestion, requests and demands have not gone unnoticed and we thank you for them.

All I can say is we are listening and will add this to the list of things to look at.

Thank you

Terry

[PaulJ]

Then how about a 48" deck on the larger Turf tracer chassis then? This would be better anyway with the features that the truf tracer has that the HP doesn't.

[LawnJoe]

Terry,
Thanks again. I totally understand. As we all know, Exmark has done a great deal to build its brand image by building great products. I know you don’t want to do anything to jeopardize that. When you’re ready to bring out a 48 with more power, I’ll be anxious to see it. In the mean time I ordered a left over ‘03 TTHP.
LawnJoe

[MacLawnCo]

Terry, since you are going to "R&D" the extra HP machines, why dont you let PaulJ and i demo them for you? Id even do that free of charge. BTW, did you ever get my email? I have not gotten a response from you or the sales link on the web site.

[ULTIMATE LAWN]

Hello,

Thank you for making sure everything works properly before sending it to market.

I was in discussion with my dealer last year to fit a 23Kaw on the 48" TTHP & was close to going ahead until he cited the reasons you listed above.

Would not the Tracer Frame with narrower tires & a 48" Tri-Vantage Work?

[GeorgiaGrassMan]

Don't wait too long Exmark. The 48" Hustler SWB arguably has a superior control system, a much bigger motor (25 HP) and very large tires at a TTHP - not a TT price. If they had a decent dealer in my area, there would be one on my trailer now where the TTHP sits. I, and I would speculate most of the guys here, don't want to defect to Hustler, but if they come out with machines that have overwelming advantages, it will be hard no to.

[eXmark]

Mac,

I forwarded your request to our distributor for your region. E-mail me at terry.eckert@exmark.com with the dealer of your preference and I'll try to arrange the demo for you.

Thanks

Terry

[eXmark]

Guys,

Thanks for the posts. We are actually looking at several things for the walks right now. Power will be one of the things we re-visit.

While we are evaluating the power concerns you may want to consider some of the features of the TTHP not offered by all manufacturers. Some of these would include "no tools" belt adjustment for the clutch, no electric clutch, separate choke/throttle cable (eliminates difficult starting due to incorrectly adjusted choke) on the go tracking adjustment, 4 pin height adjustment, ECS controls (some people prefer them), 18,500 fpm blade tip speed, cut quality semi-pneumatic (no flats) front cater tires, and balance.

You may also want to consider the fully welded seams on the mower deck shell. Combine that with the gusseting, reinforcements and bumpers and you've got a pretty solid deck.

Hopefully we're at least offering some of what you want until we get all of your concerns addressed.

Thanks

Terry