View Full Version : Best way to sell your leaf service to exsisting clients
SpudsM15
09-04-2003, 04:08 PM
This is my first season in the biz. after working for someone else i know what is involved in clean ups but have no idea how to estimate, I was thinking just use the same month cost of mowing to charge. The guy i worked for did clean-ups 3 times a year once in oct. nov. then dec. of coarse he had good clients.
I'm afraid that my clients will not want to pay for the service 3 times.(they whined about the time i came and cut during the 2 week period we didn't have rain!)
Stupid me forgot to add this into the season agreement at the beginning of the season.
Anyways I was thinking of writing a letter explaining the cost and when service will be performed (in the form of a second agreement)
My main question is what do you look for while estimating a leaf cleanup?
paponte
09-04-2003, 04:22 PM
We charge hourly. they can have as many or as little as they want done. It pretty much works out to be the same amount of money. :cool:
SpudsM15
09-04-2003, 04:25 PM
Ok so you just give them a rate before you do the job?
I assume this works good but i have had some people freak out after doing a landscaping job! The type of clients want to know the price before i do anything its annoying I would have to say i have a 90% price complaint rate.
cklands
09-04-2003, 06:12 PM
I give them a price for their "Fall Clean Up". Which means I give them a price to get rid of all their leaves. To me it doesn't matter if I go twice for 4 hrs at a time or once for 8. The price was for the 8 in the first place. This works great for the accounts that you mow every week. We start cleaning them when we mow.
MOW ED
09-04-2003, 06:27 PM
I tell them my hourly rate. I have a high demand for service so weekly customers get first crack and others are if I can get to them.
We will never give one price for a clean because of too many variables, weather being the biggest.
Make sure you get enough to cover your time and expenses, it is nothing like mowing and the dust beats holy hell on you and your equipment. Good Luck. Don't lowball.
First of all you realy don't want to have any of them waiting till all have fallen and then go cleanup.
Why?
Your now past Thanksgiving. Weather changes with the breeze, it may become to cold, or worse snow. That is only part of the scenario. Waiting till the end all the leaves are more than likely wet through to the bottom. It's heavy, takes up much of the time, and of left on the lawn you now have damage where the leaves were left to lay.
If it all possible you will want to follow your route from start to finish and do 2 or maybe 3 rounds till your done. Done meaning all leaves have fallen (except Oaks) and you have left the property as clean as possible. This saves you a great deal of work in the spring.
Charging. A good rule of thumb would be about 2x your monthly. More if the homes are covered with trees. Now if you can discard the leaves in wooded areas around the property then much of your work is easier so you can fluctuate withe price. But if your carting away and paying for dumping then don't shoot yourself in the foot.
With what I described you can figure 1.75 x to 2.25 x of your monthly.
Myself I am charging 1.9 to 3x, most average to around 2.25x I would guess. But we cart everything and pay for dumping. Oh, I will be increasing the fee for fall cleanup this year anyway. So that % goes higher......... :)
SpudsM15
09-04-2003, 08:18 PM
humm.. interesting...
I wonder what tell will say when i give them a 300 estimate...
I think i'm gonna stick with an hourly rate....
Lowball?is $35 an hour by myself lowballing? If my helper is with me it goes to $60 i think thats about $3-5 under my markets standard...
BSDeality
09-04-2003, 08:40 PM
$45/hr is the absolute minimum i'll work at with anything that sucks down gasoline.
walker-talker
09-04-2003, 09:27 PM
Last year my existing clients said just do it...so I did and billed them $45 an hour. I think that was a little low. I think $60-$75 would be more appropriate. Last year I tarped and threw in the back of my pickup truck. This year I will be able to do much more efficiently. I have a grain truck with a leaf box that will hold 21 cubic yards and a debris loader. I lost a lot of estimates last year because I had figured on some that I would have to dump my truck 3 or 4 times, so estimates were high. With my new truck this year I won't have to do that thus won't have to estimate so high. Having the right equipment will get you more jobs.
Good luck
MATT
SpudsM15
09-04-2003, 09:34 PM
I was thinking of turning my trailer into a leaf box with a leaf loader. Think thats a good idea oposed to bagging it by hand which i hate doing!
Of course i'll have to unload it by hand but that shouldn't be a problem...
I need to get some prices on leaf loaders...
What do you guys think make the box or not?
leeslawncare
09-04-2003, 09:48 PM
I work fall clean ups- 45.00 hr solo 65.00 with one helper.i hate leaf clean up ,but i do it for my regular clients .removal is extra!!
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