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JML
09-04-2003, 10:44 PM
I am having a huge problem thinking of what to put on the side of this building. I haven't done any design work in months, and my head hurts just looking at it? Any ideas...
He wants to keep it as low cost as possible. I was thinking a hedge, but what should I put in for some height? The planting area is roughly about three feet wide... Thanks

JML
09-04-2003, 10:50 PM
the other half.

Grassmechanic
09-04-2003, 11:04 PM
What is the exposure? If it's not a northern exposure, I'd go with Anthony Waterer Spirea broken up every now and then with a Skyrocket or Wichita Blue juniper.

dvmcmrhp52
09-04-2003, 11:06 PM
What about some tall grasses with other perennials in between?
Looking for height all along or just to offset?

GLAN
09-04-2003, 11:18 PM
I would do Emerald Green Arborvitae at the columns

Yew Densiformous in between.

Liriope under the window towards the front.

mdvaden
09-05-2003, 12:26 AM
I like that "at the columns" idea, but for the earlier suggested Wichita Blue Juniper.

Blue on red is a great pair of colors.

Maybe use Moonglow Juniper, it can be 1/2 the price of Wichita.

The Moonglow should be sheared at least once per year, twice is better to prolong its existence in the space to maybe 2 to 3 decades.

There's a photo of a sheared Moonglow on my pruning page at www.mdvaden.com


In between, I'd either go with Emerald Arborvitae, sheared at 4' maximum height, or vacate winter foliage between columns and plant:

Pennisetum alopecuroides (several varieties) - Fountain Grass

JML
09-05-2003, 12:38 PM
I was thinking about the arbs and the liriope, you re inforced my decision on using it. I like the idea of the hedge. Was thinking about maybe like a holly that gets berries.. What could I use to add a little height other than the arbs.. Think a small magnolia would look good? Thanks again guys...

GLAN
09-05-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by JML
I was thinking about the arbs and the liriope, you re inforced my decision on using it. I like the idea of the hedge. Was thinking about maybe like a holly that gets berries.. What could I use to add a little height other than the arbs.. Think a small magnolia would look good? Thanks again guys...


You don't have much space. Magnolia is out. Remember your in a parking lot. Plantings are basic and simple with hassle free plant material.

The Wichita's have been problematic in our neck of the woods. The color contrast is nice though. Junipers would be double the cost of the Arborvitaes.

Or if you need more height from the hedge then Hicks yews

NCSULandscaper
09-05-2003, 02:45 PM
I would try to go with skyrocket junipers and white indian hawthorns in between. Cant get anymore low maintenance than those.

Grassmechanic
09-05-2003, 02:47 PM
Glan - what's the problem with wichita's out your way? Ours here are just beautiful, and hardly anyone uses them. Highly underrated juniper, if you ask me.

GLAN
09-05-2003, 03:06 PM
Yes highly underated.


Not sure exactly. We had used them a couple years cause the blue is fantastic. I had replaced all with the exception of a small hedge at one home.

We found that they cannot tolerate the watering from irrigation systems for one thing. Very prone to blights. They never trimmed well, anyway you did them. They just tend to die back after trimming.

Now a days they are no longer in the nurseries. Once in a while I will see a couple but that's all.

The other thing if they are against a wall the back died out and the plant becomes side heavy, would fall or lean.

GLAN
09-05-2003, 03:09 PM
Hawthorn?

The needles?

Not low maintenance that I have ever seen.


The Indian is common for lower lattitudes not up here

Team Gopher
09-05-2003, 03:16 PM
Hi JML,

How about ornamental vines (http://www.kennedyscountrygardens.com/vines.htm)?


http://www.kennedyscountrygardens.com/vines12.jpg

Rtom45
09-05-2003, 03:18 PM
Why not try to espaliate (sp) some pyracantha along the walls?

GLAN
09-05-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Rtom45
Why not try to espaliate (sp) some pyracantha along the walls?


Again the Thorns. Not low maintenance.

NCSULandscaper
09-05-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by GLAN
Hawthorn?

The needles?

Not low maintenance that I have ever seen.


The Indian is common for lower lattitudes not up here

Indian Hawthorn has no needles. Low growing evergreen mounded shrub that requires little to no maintenance.

NNJLandman
09-05-2003, 07:59 PM
I was thinking boxwoods or Manhattan Euoynomous in between the pillars. With one arb at each pillar or this nice tall shrub with red smallish round leaves....can't think of the name.

Jeff

GLAN
09-05-2003, 09:31 PM
NCSU


That variety is not very common up here. Though there are many other varities making their way into the nurseries in the last couple years. Let me find out about them.

JML says he's Jersey shore, now north our south I don't know ;)

Regardless we both are in the same zone.

NNJLandman
09-07-2003, 06:16 PM
Sand Cherrys was the shrub i was thinking of.

Turfdude
09-07-2003, 06:44 PM
JML,

Since you list the Jersey shore, you would want to take into consideration the heat (multipled of course by the black top) and of course the winds. Since the planting area is not too wide, I'd suggest sticking w/ some basic junipers that will thrive down there. For height, go w/ either spartan or moonglow junipers. There are a plethora of grasses that will thrive down there too. Barberry is okay, but not too many since they're deciduous. You may be able to incorporate some steeds upright hollies too. They'd make for a good hedgerow and stay fairly columnar.

Turfdude
09-07-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by NNJLandman
I was thinking boxwoods or Manhattan Euoynomous in between the pillars. With one arb at each pillar or this nice tall shrub with red smallish round leaves....can't think of the name.

Jeff
Photinia red tip?? or hot shot??

Green in Idaho
09-09-2003, 01:37 AM
Mural!

Forget the water, temperature, space, requirements of greenery.

That wall deserves a mural of Jonny Moseley catching some serious air!