Question about LazerZ Model Difference

[jasonlong]

Talked w/ local dealer today. He kept pushing a LazerZ AS. I can not find any reference to the "AS" model in anything I have. Looked like a reguar Z w/ ROPS to me. Dealer said it was between a HP and a full Lazer. Price was good, but he said it was introductory only. ANy information would be nice.

[eXmark]

Jasonlong,

That's another one of those secret models.

The AS or Advantage Series is a new model for this year. Over the years we've been adding feature after feature and most of them come at a price. The AS is a Lazer Z without all the bells and whistles or a clone of the original Lazer Z.

Standard features on the Lazer Z such as the cup holder and foot lift assist will be options on the AS. Drive tires will be 23X10.50 Turf Mates, caster tires will be 13X5 just like the original Lazer Z.

The AS will be available only with Kohler air cooled engines. A 20 hp on the 52" deck and a 23 hp on the 60" deck. The engines will not enjoy some of the standard features of the Lazer Z. The AS will not have the clean out ports, canister air filter, quick release oil drain and rpms will be set at 3600 rather than 3750.

Fuel capacity with be 8.5 gallons just like the original Lazer rather than the 13.5 gallons on the new Lazer Z. Throttle, choke, PTO and hour meter will all be in the front console just like the original Lazer Z as well.

There are a few other minor items as well. The AS will have all of the structural upgrades and the 5.5” deep deck that the Lazer Z has enjoyed over the years but not all the features.

Thanks

Terry

[John Gamba]

Sad but true.

[brucec32]

Looks like Exmark is a step ahead of me. I'd suggested something along those lines recently.

I like the idea. Some folks don't need 13.5 gallons capacity, or the various other improvements, but just want the basic guts of the big lazer w/o having to go down to a 44" 17hp HP model to get the price they can afford. The things that matter most, deck size, power, and cut quality are still there.

[accuratelawn]

I,m glad to see this option. A 25 would be a better engine option.

[DieselDeere]

Are the clean-out ports part of the air cleaner?

[eXmark]

DD,

The clean our ports allow easy access to the cooling fins for clean out. They are available only on Kohler engines and a pretty good deal for guys mowing in a lot of dusty dry conditions.

Thanks

Terry

[John Gamba]

Originally posted by John Gamba
Sad but true.

You didnt have to print it. I was kidding.
John

[eXmark]

John,

I didn't know if you were kidding or not. I pretty much print anything unless is malicious or just inappropriate.

I just figured everybody has a right to their opinion. When they disagree with me they also have the right to be wrong.........now I'm just kidding.


Have a good one.

Terry

[John Gamba]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[jasonlong]

I decided to go ahead and get the AS. For the money, the bells and whistles were not that important to me. I did get the dealer to throw in a foot assist for the deck lift and a cup holder. My only complaint so far is the amount of blow-out from the front of the deck while mulching. Another observation is that it will not hold a hill as well as my Hustler Mini. Nevertheless it is a well built machine. I am sure its performance will increase as my hour s on it do.


http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/154/154330/folders/101345/687140Exmark1.jpg

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[John Gamba]

Oh lordy!!!!
The peanut tires are back! How is the trim side with the 52 Ultracut deck. Oh put the anti blow out baffle on will help out .
John

[Keith]

Originally posted by John Gamba
Oh lordy!!!!
The peanut tires are back!

I always called them the "dog bone" tires :)

[DieselDeere]

Are the clean out ports standard?

[eXmark]

DD,

The clean out ports have been std. on all Kohler twins for a year or two.

Thanks

Terry

[John Gamba]

Hay Keith, John

[Blessed 1]

Looks like they had a bunch of old gas tanks/ tires/ consoles and 23 hp Kohler's they needed to get rid of hence the Lazer AS.

[MacLawnCo]

what sort of price reduction are we talking about in exchage for those (lack of) features?

[eXmark]

Mac,

Let's just say the tank style isn't the only thing that'll remind you of the original Lazer Z.

Terry

[MacLawnCo]

Terry, do you have any photos of the 60" AS? Im intrigued. BTW, your distributor still has not gotten with me on the demo issue.

[John Gamba]

Terry
Do you get more trim side on the 52"AS, Compared to a regular lazer?

Thank you john

[MikeLT1Z28]

how do those tires compare in your testing area compared to say, the carlisle's that you used to run? i'm thinking that might be why his mini held the hill better. i think crazygator tested all of them and the exmark was the only one that held the hill he was testing on. wally?

[GeorgiaGrassMan]

Hey Terry,

I know dealers set their own prices and all that jazz but what would you guess is the street price difference between a Lazer HP and a Lazer AS? Also, are 52" and 60" the only deck sizes the AS model will come in?

[eXmark]

Guys,

Trim capacity will stay the same on all AS models vs. the standard Lazer Z.

The traction of the two tire is fairly comparable but the MultiTrac C/S is a superior tire in terms of tread life and it does perform better in a wider variety of conditions.

The AS will only be offered with a 52" deck with a 20 hp Kohler or a 60" deck with a 23 hp Kohler.

It's tough to compare prices between the AS and any other riders we offer because of the limited engine choices. You’re not really comparing apples to apples.

The 20/52 will run around $7200 and the 23/60 will run around $7700.

Thanks

Terry

[ple_1969]

terry,

What is the blade tip speed on these advantage units?

Pete

[eXmark]

Pete,

All UltraCut and Tri-vantage decks run around 18,500 fpm.

Thanks,

Terry