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SunriseLawn
10-24-2003, 08:21 AM
Does anyone know anything about the Ever Ride Warrior ZTR? I was at a dealer yesterday about 100 miles from home checking out Maruyama equipment and while talking to the owner of the shop he told me about a new mower coming out this coming year-the Ever Ride Warrior. He told me some specs and the retail price which peaked my interest. Does anyone have any further details on the mower, seen it in person at the Louisville show maybe, or can sort out the specs and tell me whether it is worth following up on? They have a web site to look at, but with me being new to this biz and never having a ZTR, I hope maybe you guys can provide an assessment on the quality of parts their using, etc? Anyway, here is the website in case you care to look.



Thanks,
SunriseLawn
http://www.everridemowers.com

excel25
10-24-2003, 06:29 PM
Runs great....GOOD deck design has HUSTLERS brake system, the deck is attached at the front instead of the back so will move with the front end. 13mph, 12 Gal fuel.

locutus
10-24-2003, 09:06 PM
I wonder if Hustler produces this mower?

Envy Lawn Service
10-24-2003, 09:30 PM
I think not. The color is the only similarity.

cblackwe
10-26-2003, 03:34 PM
I replied to a previous post on this topic w/ what my dealer told me about them. I looked at one and it appeared to be top quality. They only come w/ Kawi engines though and I am Kohler man...Distributor was present when I was looking the machine over and didn't sound promising about offering additional engine choices. Apparently Honda looked into producing a ZTR several years ago. After a couple years of development they sold their progress to this company who had been participating in the process from the beginning. Hence, you get the EverRide. Seems to be top notch quality , Only time will tell in this business, its performance on-the-job will rule..

moonkat
12-25-2003, 12:33 PM
Now that the snow's let up, and the grass is growing again (!!!), need to think about mowers....
Anyone got more info on this promising design ?
I am in Maryland and trying to see it up close in MD, DE, or PA.

Very interesting combination of features...
25 hp Kawi
60" 7 ga deck with enlarged exhaust chute !
18,900 fps bts
13 mph transport speed
Only dealer listing is in Missourri by a very helpful Rodney Johns at Arki Tec Landscaping. http://arki-tec.com/

He has best photo to date.....
http://community.webshots.com/s/image2/8/16/78/106481678qqPhjH_fs.jpg

moonkat
12-25-2003, 12:45 PM
that is.....
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=106481076&photoID=106481678&security=qqPhjH

rodfather
12-25-2003, 01:48 PM
So how much are they?

proenterprises
12-25-2003, 02:16 PM
is their a website...or does someone have a price on one of these units.

weve
12-25-2003, 04:26 PM
EverRide's website is:

http://www.everridemowers.com/html/index.aspx

I saw this mower at the Louisville Expo.

moonkat
12-25-2003, 04:56 PM
Rodney Johns at Arki Tec said $7500 was list price.

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=106481076&photoID=106527596&security=rcSqgg

Richard Martin
12-25-2003, 05:22 PM
Here's the pic:

http://community.webshots.com/s/image2/8/16/78/106481678qqPhjH_fs.jpg

proenterprises
12-25-2003, 05:57 PM
FYI guys those pics arent coming up.

Otherwise-I just watched the video (without sound). The design looks good. It seems to be built nice, strong and though. From what I can see, the specs look good and it dosent appear to be a POS. The price :7,500.00 is decent (providing i could find a dealer somwhere around here)

I know some guys knock buying the "cheapo" versions of the real thing but this may be a good option for my first Z, when that time comes.

try and get those pic links to work if you can....thanks!

moonkat
12-29-2003, 10:11 AM
Folks,
I've posted all three pics from Rodney Johns in my Webshots album titled "EverRide Warrior 60" ZTR" at:
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=107389650

Rodney described the machine as having been developed as Honda's entry into ZTR lawn care market. Product was in design development and field testing for three years (probably red paint then) and Honda decided not to proceed.

I first became interested (see website - http://www.everridemowers.com/html/index.aspx) by the design features, especially the lazer-cut plate steel frame, floating deck and 13 mph top speed (25hp Kawi) motor. The manufacturer, Auburn Industries is a parts supplier to and 20% owned by Kubota.

The design development by Honda explains why the machine appears so well engineered and constructed (from photos).
I've got the EverRide brochure and will post to webshots when I have time to scan.

65hoss
12-29-2003, 10:14 AM
At GIE I looked at them. There are a lot of things similar to the Hustlers. Not just the brakes. I personally asked Paul if they made the Warrior. He said no.

eXmark and Hustler have a lot of companies copying a lot of their stuff. Some are leaders others are followers.

johnhenry
12-29-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by 65hoss
At GIE I looked at them. There are a lot of things similar to the Hustlers. Not just the brakes. I personally asked Paul if they made the Warrior. He said no.

eXmark and Hustler have a lot of companies copying a lot of their stuff. Some are leaders others are followers.

Very well said and also I might add how long can they stay in business.

I always wait at least 3 years for a company to be on there own 2 feet. before I even consider them.Plus it takes about 3 years in court for any copyrights lawsuits to be settled.

moonkat
12-30-2003, 02:41 PM
The manufacturer, Auburn has been manufacturing for decades and is parts supplier for AGCO (Massey Ferguson ?), Kubota, and New Holland. From Lawn & Landscape article on EverRide site:
http://www.everridemowers.com/html/press.aspx

"While this is the first time the company has designed a product and taken it directly to the market, ACI is no stranger to the equipment arena, Loynachan points out. The manufacturer started in 1926 and has designed and produced implements such as grass catchers and mower decks for original equipment manufacturers (OEMs). ACI enjoys solid relationships with Kubota, Case New Holland and John Deere, and will continue producing products for these companies while it diversifies its business structure by entering the mower market, he adds.

But stretching into the zero-turn mower manufacturing sector offers more security for the business – and a new way for it to reach end-users.

“Our business model was such that we were making equipment for OEMs, but all of those OEMs have their own manufacturing facilities, and if the economy or a specific segment of the market were to turn down and one of our customer's volume were to decrease, it could cause them to say, ‘We need to make these products ourselves,'” Loynachan says. “(This arrangement) didn't give us a warm, fuzzy feeling about the long-term stability of our business.”

With $4 million in facility upgrades for new tooling, the operation is now up to speed for commercial mower production, Loynachan notes. Besides ramping up manufacturing capabilities, ACI performed three years of tests on the EverRide Warrior before this year's introduction. With so much competition in the zero-turn mower market, ensuring the product exceeded current lines was a priority for the EverRide team.

“We took the top four mowing units in the market today and then we had our test technicians go outside and mow side by side,” Loynachan says, describing one of the performance tests. “We put a flag on each sample – you don't know which one is our mower and which is the other brand. Then, we have a crew of people analyze each cut.”

Besides performance, durability is also crucial when introducing a new product, Loynachan notes. “We like to go where the testing would be most extreme, which is why Florida is good,” he says. “The high grass is difficult to cut and the sand is very abrasive, so it really shows you if you have any weaknesses in your product. Then, we got the mowers in the hands of contractors who put lots of hours on the equipment – the guys who put 30 to 35 hours a week on a piece of equipment.”

From Lawn & Landscape article on EverRide site:
http://www.everridemowers.com/html/press.aspx

Buba
01-05-2004, 09:08 AM
The EverRide Warrior will be at the Mants Show in Baltimore Maryland Jan 7-9. Any questions regarding this product can be answered at the show. This show is held at the Convention Center.

moonkat
01-05-2004, 09:33 PM
Buba,
Thankyuhthankyuhthankyuhverrrmushhh !

moonkat
02-08-2004, 03:35 PM
Didn't make it to MANTs but I did get to kick the tires yesterday.

Very well designed and well made with good components.

First person photos at:
http://community.webshots.com/album/116997805hgaExj

Confirmed at least 12 mph top traveling speed on asphalt (front axle locked blades off). Speed/terminal velocity limited by small parking lot test area....only about 100'-12 spaces of double loaded parking. Popped right up to 12.1 mph on gps.

moonkat
02-11-2004, 08:29 AM
Added info and pictures in this topic of this forum:
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61444

gogetter
02-12-2004, 01:01 AM
I wonder how well they cut? The brochure I have says the blades are overlapped by 1.5" to "eliminate streaking & uncut grass".

It also says it has the highest (8"), and largest (149 square inches) discharge area.
Sounds like it would throw grass pretty well. I guess that's why they call it the "EverFlow Tunnel Deck".

I'd like to see one in action.

John Gamba
02-12-2004, 06:41 AM
Is the deck Baffled???? Or does it just cut and throw like the honda commercial mowers.
John

moonkat
02-12-2004, 11:36 AM
Of course the manufacturer will claim that it has the best cut, but I will settle for a good single cutting of tall wet grass for our acre lawn and 8 acres of pasture grass. Yes, I'm looking for something that can double as a field mower but faster.

Deck underside is one photo I didn't quite get, but the EverRide video (http://www.everridemowers.com/html/action_video.aspx#)
shows the deck underside (about 1/4 way through). Looks to be unbaffled at front with deck front edge a couple of inches from blade tip, and rear baffle tracing the arc of the blades. This is the first assymetrical deck I have seen but was told that the
deck design was adapted from Simplicity(?). I have yet to see another non-symetrical deck.

Their brochure is now online:
http://www.everridemowers.com/media/Brochure.pdf
Spec Sheet:
http://www.everridemowers.com/media/Hi-Res_Warrior%20SpecSht.pdf

moonkat
02-12-2004, 11:44 AM
I suspect they have done aerodynamic studies to tune their deck just as they did structural analysis to arrive at their "unibody" design chassis. Blade tip speed is quoted as "18,900" for both 60" and 54" decks, and they use a slender .205" thick blade...probably necessary for 1.5" overlap.

I'm very interested to hear first person experiences of mowing with this machine !

Turfdude
02-12-2004, 11:56 AM
Very nice machine. The baggin system pto comes directly from motor (the impellor) it sits up high by bagging unit. Priced at MANTS for the 60" at around $12,000. Nice machine 16 wheel motors - wow, but mucho dinero

moonkat
02-12-2004, 01:39 PM
Some distributors are offering intro pricing of $6999 while snow is on the ground.

moonkat
02-20-2004, 09:23 AM
Better photo of EverRide Warrior 60" :

John Gamba
02-20-2004, 10:21 AM
Any under deck pics??

moonkat
02-20-2004, 03:05 PM
John,
Deck underside is one photo I didn't quite get, but the EverRide video (http://www.everridemowers.com/html/action_video.aspx#)
shows the deck underside (about 1/4 way through). Looks to be unbaffled at front with deck front edge a couple of inches from blade tip, and rear baffle tracing the arc of the blades. Very distinct tunnel across front of deck from 5.5 to 7.75" at discharge.

BTW, the above photo is with the deck at max/transport height of 6".

Got any pics of eXmark deck underside ?

John Gamba
02-20-2004, 04:00 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by moonkat
[B]John,

Got any pics of eXmark deck underside ? No i will have one tomorrow:D
John

moonkat
02-22-2004, 04:29 PM
EverRide Warrior site updated to include "Parts Manual":

http://www.everride.net/images/parts%20Manual.pdf

and "Owners Manual":

http://www.everride.net/images/Operators%20Manual.pdf

page 12 has several diagrams including underside of deck.

JKOOPERS
02-22-2004, 04:48 PM
honda got away from it for a reason dont ya think?

FFMED74
02-22-2004, 07:30 PM
I have a contact nuber for the district guy for the midwest Mike Kazda 1-800-589-4145. He called me last week and told me about the mower, sounds ok, but our local dealer wont carry them for at least a year, new line and wants them to get the bugs out first. I can post a spec sheet if you want? This guy is out of Chicago area I think.

moonkat
02-22-2004, 08:29 PM
jkoopers:

"Honda got away from it for a reason......"

What I'm hearing from dealers and from one district sales manager is that when manufacturers learned of Honda's intent to compete in the commercial mower market, they threatened to stop purchasing Honda engines. Honda decided they were an engine manufacturer first and pulled their interest in commercial mowers......

Of course, if there is more to the story, I'm all ears !!

moonkat
02-25-2004, 08:32 PM
Only picture of Exmark Lazer Z deck underside I came across...imagine it without the baffles.

http://www.exmark.com/pdfs/micromulch.pdf

Envy Lawn Service
02-25-2004, 10:55 PM
About the deck

Believe it on not, we actually have a dealer for them here now, which is surprising to me. So I have done a little tire kicking myself.

The deck is original. Take a second look at mooncat's picture taken from between the rear tires. As you can see, the deck is very shallow all the way across in the rear. In the front it is stepped. So 1/2 - 3/4 of the trim side chamber is normal depth. The front of the deck ranges from normal depth up to an 8" discharge height. So the front of the deck is more like say....a discharge tunnel.

It's somewhat like the old Kubota deck and Toro SFS deck in that it's shallow in the rear and deep in the front, creating tunnel flow for the clippings. But the deck is all welded construction and I would guess that it does a better job than either of those decks. But that's just a guess.

IT appears to be a discharge only deck, unless you want to bag. It might work pretty well for the masses though....

Envy Lawn Service
02-27-2004, 02:53 AM
OH, I forgot to add..... maybe I'm wrong, but the frame design doesn't apper to be so original.

moonkat
02-27-2004, 08:37 AM
Looks like:

Husqvarna ZTH6123LXPQL ZTH Mower, 23 HP Kohler Liquid Cooled Engine from Kimco website.

Just started seeing this model, though no pivoting deck.
Husqvarna site has good specs on their ZTHE6125 and they do call the frame "unibody".

http://international.husqvarna.com/node1520.asp?id=28357&intLanguageId=1

Unibody looks like the coming trend !

HustlerZman
02-27-2004, 10:19 PM
MOONKAT,

I just kick the tires of the eve ride!

It is a one heck of a machine! I really liked everything that I saw on it. The construction looks beefy, somewhat like hustler. The raising and lowering of the deck is far better than other that I have ever seen.

The deck is attached to the front of the instead of the rear like most that I know of. This should help with scalpping. The front axle has the option of pivoting or not. This one had a 25hp kaw. with a 60" deck and h/d canister filter. It also has some nifty tie down locations on the front casters.

The deck is interesting! Thin at the rear of the deck and one heck of an opening at the discharge chute! NO MORE CLOGGING!!!

My dealer said he could sale to me for $7800 -$7900 im sure he's good for 2-300 more off of that..

Didnt crank it or ride since there is snow on the ground here in SC... isnt that crazy!!!

Over all it looks like a great machine !!!!!

HustlerZman
02-27-2004, 10:30 PM
Moonkat,

What I was going to say.......

It's nothing like the Husky..... the two machines are in different classes while setting in the showroom. I personally dont know what either of them can do in the field.....

Envy Lawn Service
02-27-2004, 11:44 PM
moonkat,

"Unibody" may be the coming trend, I dunno. I haven't done a hardline inspection of the Yazoo/Kees-Husqvarna frame or the EverRide frame. But from what little I have noticed, to me I don't see much of a difference. I mean, undoubtbly the unibody wedge frame rails, from the seat to the front axle are probably stronger than the square tubing on others and at a minimal weight increase.

So I think yes, it's probably stronger, but mostly it's mentioned as a marketing difference in hopes that those in search of a new machine might be swayed by it. But I don't think it's anything to run out and trade for.

To me the best feature of the EverRide is the pivoting axle/deck carrier/deck. A pivoting axle is ok and all. But when you attach the deck carrier and deck to it so it pivots with the axle, for the most part it makes for a better contour cut. Ferris and Country Clipper are also that way.

moonkat
02-29-2004, 07:01 PM
HustlerZman:
Glad to hear someone else shares my enthusiasm for the EverRide ! Several distributors are offering intro pricing for the EverRide at $6995; for example Oneills in the NorthEast. Hayes in OK advertises this price on their website and there may be others out there.

Envy,
Hope you are right about the pivoting deck as my lawn is not the flattest.

I just put down a deposit so I'll see pretty soon if it will cut grass.
None too soon as we had a warm 65 degree day today ;-)

Russ4148
03-01-2004, 10:22 AM
Moonkat, What dealer did you go with? I am also in MD, and would like to look at the 54" deck model. Without being too noisy, were you able to deal at all, or was it sticker price?

Russ4148
03-02-2004, 09:24 AM
Moonkat,
Thanks for the info. I guess I'll plan a trip up to PA for a look see. With the weather warming up this week, I will be watching for your personal experience reports. Thanks again. (I'm down in California, by the Pax River NAS 20619). Russ

moonkat
03-03-2004, 11:08 AM
Russ & HustlerZman,

More info now on EverRide site - parts and owners manuals:

owner's manual:
http://www.everridemowers.com/images/Operators%20Manual.pdf

parts manual:
http://www.everridemowers.com/images/parts%20Manual.pdf

Very informative about design and setup/maintenance.

mag360
03-03-2004, 12:02 PM
The everride and husqvarna frame design is very similar---the everride is 7gauge steel and husky is 10gauge but has a piece of square tubing the size of an exmark or tiger cub frame running the entire length of it. I think they are comparable in strength.
To my understanding everride manufactures parts for many other mower companies and probably designed or manufactured husky's frames. I know they manufacture the John Deer vac system for the F687.

moonkat
03-05-2004, 10:01 AM
Chip,
Super comparo on your topic "Demo Results - Scag, Ferris, EverRide, Husky, JD, Exmark"
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63921&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

About zerk-fittings & lubing the EverRide; it has 11 zerks including the three blade spindles which are greasable tapered roller bearings....

Grass Master
03-05-2004, 08:26 PM
Sunrise.....

which dealer in Ohio did you get the info from??

hartlawnmain
03-07-2004, 10:58 PM
I just posted the same question...I looked at one yesterday and was really impressed. Yes, it is a Honda design. Most welds are notched instead of just welded. Hydraulic hoses are 3/4 instead of 1/2" and will use regular motor oil instead of having to use Mobil Synthetic. Hydro pumps are fan cooled. This mower looks awesome. I plan on demoing one tomorrow. They quoted me $7900, but I think they'll come down some. Also, they told me they can finance through John Deere which my Great Dane is through. New finance terms of 1% of balance the first year, 3% the second year. 9.9% apr.

Everrider
04-07-2004, 04:38 PM
Just picked up 60 inch deck model for $6775.00

One nice Machine. Buit TUFF

Leisure Lawn
04-07-2004, 06:08 PM
Ever....


Where in Ohio did you find a dealer??

Martino
04-08-2004, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Leisure Lawn
Ever....


Where in Ohio did you find a dealer??

I'll bet somewhere in the Cleveland/Akron area. Word has it that it's real easy to get a jump on the mower reps in that territory.

moonkat
04-08-2004, 11:17 PM
EverRider:
Nice price, dude.
Got mine in mid-March.....
Now if it will only cut grass !
Expect this weekend will tell.

Guess that makes me EverRider2 !?

Everrider
04-08-2004, 11:34 PM
I found an EverRide Dealer in Pataskala, just east of Columbus.

Worked a Sweet deal, bought alot. :blob3:

moonkat
04-09-2004, 12:56 PM
EverRider:
BTW, I was reading up on maintenance and looking for supplies for the early (8 hours) oil and filter change and 50 hr hydro fluid change.

Oil and filter no problem, but came across a discrepancy between the manual and the tag on the hydro fluid reservoir.

Manual says "non-detergent 20-50 oil" (which API says is SA, SB or SC grade and no longer manufactured), and fluid reservoir tag reads "20-50 SJ oil" (IIRC). So I emailed Everride Tech support and got response to couple of questions I had...........

RE: Your EverRide Inquiry - 3/14/04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff,

Thank you for your positive comments about the EverRide mower. We are very confident we have a winner with this mowing machine. Look for other, smaller ZT's and walk behind commercial models in the future.

Now for your question. The decal on the oil reservoir is correct. The original information put on the web-site referring to "non-detergent oil" was incorrect. This was a recommendation from the hydraulic component supplier, but because most oil companies no longer offer non-detergent oil, a low foam SJ/CD motor oil is now approved. The web-site information was corrected and will be posted when
it is next updated.

Yes, the tie down points above the front axle can be used as lifting hooks if you have a hoist, block and tackle, etc. Car ramps can also be used under the front or rear wheels to raise the unit for servicing and deck cleaning. The tow plate on the rear frame can be used as a jacking point. However, always use jack stands or other blocking material on either side of the EverRide unit to avoid tipping it off the jack.

Glad to be of service,

John Hollenbeck
AUBURN CONSOLIDATED INDUSTRIES, INC.
2100 "J" Street - Auburn, NE, U.S.A. 68305
Tech Service Phone: (402)274-8692 - FAX: (402)274-8663
E-Mail: jhollenbeck@EverRide.com

YMMV

moonkat
04-10-2004, 11:21 PM
Folks,
First mow of the season........
Yes, it cuts grass.........at 10 mph !

Well, that is, with what Spring growth we had so far.
Did my lawn (1 acre) and pasture (6 acres) in 2 hours !

Varied from about 6 inches new growth down to an inch. Used to take me 8 hours to cover that area with the Craftsman 20 hp 48" deck DLT 2K. Was doing about 10 mph in the pasture. Next time I'll bring a GPS or install a speedo.

Have fun !

Gtotoy
04-12-2004, 07:09 PM
Hey guys I just bought one today,, havent had a chance to cut yet, but looking forward to it. Also this is the first mower to use that "Mow-Eze" stuff.. I just sprayed it on...! I'll post reports in a day or so.

Elkbow
09-07-2006, 09:37 AM
Now that the Everide ZTR’s have been out a while, what are your thoughts after more seat time? Do they have a mulching kit available?

Envy Lawn Service
09-07-2006, 09:31 PM
Now that the Everide ZTR’s have been out a while, what are your thoughts after more seat time? Do they have a mulching kit available?

So far as I know, they don't have a mulch kit and honestly I don't think they have ever had one in mind. I believe they were shooting for having side discharge as their forte. Have you ever even had a look at their deck? It's a serious TUNNEL deck if I've ever seen one. Big deep tunnel in front, shallow in the back.

http://www.everride.com/images/Warrior_Features5.jpg

It will certainly be interesting to see how they mature as a company.

Elkbow
09-11-2006, 10:48 AM
Can we get some comments from Everide owner? What do you like about them, what would you change? Have you had any problems with yours? If so, what did you think about the way it was taken care of?

lzrj
09-11-2006, 03:10 PM
i just bought an 05 warrior the other day. Havent got to use it yet but one thing that concerns me is that the two middle pulleys in the middle of the deck are pretty close together. When you engage the PTO at lower rpm, the belt bounces for a few moments and hits itself traveling on the other pulley. I noticed they made the 06 warrior's front pulley larger and the belt is further apart which prevents that. Thats the only thing I noticed after an extensive check of the machine. I do like everything else about it. I researched mowers for the past six months before choosing the everride.

John Gamba
09-11-2006, 03:16 PM
i just bought an 05 warrior the other day. Havent got to use it yet but one thing that concerns me is that the two middle pulleys in the middle of the deck are pretty close together. When you engage the PTO at lower rpm, the belt bounces for a few moments and hits itself traveling on the other pulley. I noticed they made the 06 warrior's front pulley larger and the belt is further apart which prevents that. Thats the only thing I noticed after an extensive check of the machine. I do like everything else about it. I researched mowers for the past six months before choosing the everride.


They had a problem with the front caster brackets coming off.

lzrj
09-11-2006, 04:53 PM
Not sure what brackets you are talking about. If you are talking about the brackets that hold the caster wheels, they are welded to the deck. I guess you might be talking about the welds breaking causing the brackets to come off, but thats the first I heard of that being a problem. I did hear that they had some problems with their seals on the hydos when they first came out but that had since long been corrcted. I also heard that some spindles were wearing out because they were not greased from the factory and no one checked before they were ran. They said that also had been corrected. I talked to several people running them in the area before I bought and everyone that had one loved them and had several hundred hours on each with no major problems.

John Gamba
09-11-2006, 05:32 PM
Not sure what brackets you are talking about. If you are talking about the brackets that hold the caster wheels, they are welded to the deck. I guess you might be talking about the welds breaking causing the brackets to come off, but thats the first I heard of that being a problem. I did hear that they had some problems with their seals on the hydos when they first came out but that had since long been corrcted. I also heard that some spindles were wearing out because they were not greased from the factory and no one checked before they were ran. They said that also had been corrected. I talked to several people running them in the area before I bought and everyone that had one loved them and had several hundred hours on each with no major problems.


They had a pic of the whole Assembly broken off. Ask envy he will know, he was in on that thread.

John

Envy Lawn Service
09-11-2006, 09:14 PM
Yeah somebody had some caster forks break clean off.
Seems like maybe they bought a pair of Warriors or something when they first came out.

Maybe those were 2004's?
It's been a while, can't remember really...

Heck guys, I wanna know how the new ones cut.
Every MFG has growing pains with new models... even seasoned companies.

corey4671
09-12-2006, 11:23 PM
For real. I am SERIOUSLY considering buying one of these this fall and wanna know!

corey4671
09-12-2006, 11:39 PM
ALSO...those of you who have gotten the DEALS on these mowers, which motor did you go with? Briggs? Kawasaki? Kohler? The Briggs is WAY cheaper. Do you guys think the Kawasaki or the Kohler are worth the extra money?

Envy Lawn Service
09-12-2006, 11:46 PM
ALSO...those of you who have gotten the DEALS on these mowers, which motor did you go with? Briggs? Kawasaki? Kohler? The Briggs is WAY cheaper. Do you guys think the Kawasaki or the Kohler are worth the extra money?

The Briggs 26/60 would probably make a nice one.

However, be sure to ask specifically about the engine warranty.
If considered for commercial use it might be 1 year only.
Some are 1 year, some are 2 year... point being, FIND OUT.

Also, what is the price difference? In a lot of cases I find there is just no reason not to go with the Briggs unit. Even if it dies right after the warranty is up, there is enough saved on the purchase to cover a re-power.

I wonder what the 26/60 sells for?

Rons Rightway Lawncare
09-12-2006, 11:50 PM
I have demoed a Everride twice. They cut fast and will cut through tall grass, but they throw out long clippings and the clippings don't seem to be reduced in size much by a second pass over them. They do NOT like to be backed up over grass - leaves alot of discharge even if backing over a cut area - and they will rip up the lawn easier than any other big ZTR I have used when making turns.

I think they would make a good mower for someone looking to cut huge areas like parks and large neighborhood common areas, etc... but not good for normal residental lawns...

TRY one before you buy one...! You might like it or you might not. I have a good friend who is a dealer for them and he would give me a hell of a deal, but I just don't think it is the mower for me to use on my small lawns I cut.

lawns Etc
09-12-2006, 11:51 PM
Yes Go Kawi have 2 Warriors both 25 kawi no issues other than regular stuff like belts one is a 04 and the meter is at 1134hrs and only had 1 spindle go so this year bought 2nd one and still good luck my only recomendation is put Bobcat blades off a 61" they have a little more lift and seem to make a better discharge

Envy Lawn Service
09-13-2006, 12:00 AM
I was afraid they might throw the clippings out at pretty much the length cut off.

Most commercial mowers already spit out longer clippings than I want to see.

The Lesco is fantastic on this point.
It chops the clippings nice and fine.

lzrj
09-13-2006, 12:13 AM
The 54" 25 hp kawi I picked up was a cash price of $6,550. Not sure what the briggs unit would of cost but I wanted to stick with the kawi after all the reviewing I did. If it came with the Vangaurd I might of considered that model of Briggs but was leary of the ELS model. I had to go with the 54" due to my john deere room in my basement only having a 58" opening. The 54" was almost impossible to find. I called every Everride dealer within a 200 mile radius of me and this was the only one that had one due to the 60" being about the same price and was what everyone stocked. I had to travel 150 miles away to get it. The same 06 54" model to bring in at our local dealer was $7,400. The local dealer said he didnt blame me and still would be glad to service it for me.

jmq
09-13-2006, 12:33 AM
I have seen the city employees use this mower.....no other info though...sorry!

Green King
09-13-2006, 04:00 PM
Elkbow

I am not an everide owner however my dad owns two of them and likes them alot. This past weekend I was running behind so I borrowed one of his machines and used it. The machine will cut. It stripped pretty decent. My complaints with them is they are too small for what I do, they ride too rough and they just are not a hillside machine. For normall cutting they are awesome. but If you are going to be mowwing 8-10 hrs. straight I would use something diffrent.

corey4671
09-14-2006, 10:46 PM
Currently have the 25hp kw 54" on a demo for a couple days while my Woods M2560 is in the shop. So far after about four hours of running this machine, I am IMPRESSED. Dixie Chopper, you are NOT the world's fastest lawn mower! I have driven Choppers. Warrior has got you whooped. Cub Cadet, you don't have a Tank. This thing is SOLID! My M2560 is a falirly long mower so it has a decent ride. I was concerned the Warrior would beat my brains out like the Chopper did, HOWEVER, I ran it over the roughest yard on my route and it seemed to ride smooother than my Woods! The controls are smooth and the motor just sounds SWEET. A few observations; When turning around, as has been mentioned here before, inside tire WILL tear up the turf if not careful. Doesn't seem to want to back uphill very well either. The biggest selling point to me though has been the quality of cut. Several yards that I mow are..less than perfect....They are very uneven which many times would cause my Woods to tilt to one side or the other and leave uneven spots that I would have to trim off with the trimmer. The Warrior, CRAP! It looks like it has been cut with a 20'" push mower y'all! Everride has done their homework on this mower! I may very well be the owner of a 26hp KW 60" within a week! Can't beat the financing deal either! 36 months 0% with no payments for 6 months! WOW!!! NO..my Everride dealer has not paid me anything to post this! I have just been THAT impressed with the quality of this machine. I had almost gotten to the point that I was tired of this business and ready to quit. This demo has reignited a fire under me!!! Go getcha one..getcha two of em!!

lzrj
09-15-2006, 12:29 AM
So far, Ive been impressed with the support I have recieved from the factory. I've called the company direct several times and they had been extremely helpful. They are mailing me some items I requested and want me to email them photos of the belt closeness I talked about a few replies ago in this thread. They seem to be trying to improve upon their mower each year to work out the bugs and really make it one of the best mowers on the market. Only time will tell of their product catches on with the LCO world to help them survive to maybe become the next Exmark or Hustler. One thing they do need to work on from what I have seen is getting established dealers on board to help sell and repair their products.

lawns Etc
09-15-2006, 08:55 PM
I as noted am very happy with mine and my dealer the only bad thing is I didnt check prices and paid 8495 plus tax for mine 25/60 x2 so he better keep up the good drop everything service that he has been giving

ow man
09-15-2006, 10:14 PM
Just visited the ACI factory in Nebraska not too long ago. Found out that they also build and own Great Dane.(purchased from Deere ACI now builds them in their own factory in Nebraska) Both Dane and Everride are built in the same factory. I do mean built..........they fabricate nearly everything. They don't just assemble, you should have seen the machine equipment and laser cutters. These folks (ACI) have a very nice thing going and looks to be around for a long time.

lzrj
09-15-2006, 11:24 PM
It will be interesting to see if they can change the image Great Dane has in the LCO world right now.

ThirdDay
09-16-2006, 07:11 AM
Word on the street in this neck of the woods is that "allegedly" the company is in major financial trouble. Dealers are not getting paid warranty in a timely fashion and there are other issues.

WREBELMACHINE
09-16-2006, 09:18 AM
lzr

congrats on your new mower. I am suprised the local dealer is willing to go ahead and service you. I know he use to on dixie choppers refuse to work on them if he did not sell them. Maybe he is getting soft in his old age lol! More likely is the fact that there are not that many everides compared to dixie only time will tell if he will continue to do that.

Third Day
It is funny you bring that up I was stopped by the local jxx/ ferris dealer who bad mouths my dealer and my equippment and he said that everide is in serious trouble. I blew it off because I do not use everide and because this guy is a used shady car salesman.

corey4671
09-16-2006, 12:18 PM
I as noted am very happy with mine and my dealer the only bad thing is I didnt check prices and paid 8495 plus tax for mine 25/60 x2 so he better keep up the good drop everything service that he has been giving

Sounds as though you feel like you could have gotten a better deal. What are some other prices you have seen for this mower?

Envy Lawn Service
09-17-2006, 12:05 AM
It will be interesting to see if they can change the image Great Dane has in the LCO world right now.

Yeah, it will be....

Personally I think Great Dane already had one POSSIBLY fantastic unit...
The 61" Chariot LX...

I really liked the unit I had here for a while... and with a few small changes I would have been crazy about it.

I think the issue with the machine was that the LX frame was really designed for the 72" deck and quite a bit of trim. So there was a clearance issue on one of the pulleys that made it impossible to lift the deck anymore and cut above like 3-3.5" which was a real bummer. It also would not have hurt it to have had a wheelbase several inches shorter with the 61" deck. Otherwise I liked it a lot.

I like driving that mower more than anything else on the market.
Love the between the legs sticks also.

Rons Rightway Lawncare
09-17-2006, 08:39 AM
Envy, in your avatar I see a Lesco ZTR. Do you like it? I have not cut with one, but looked one over from top to bottom many times while in Lesco getting fert, and they seemed to be rough around the edges so to speak. There is a yard across the street from one of my accounts that the guy cuts with a Lesco and the cut looks terrible, but who knows if his blades are kept reasonably sharp or not.

Where are you located in NC?


Everride mowers.... A good friend of mine ( another pilot ) is a dealer for Everride. He could sell one for a good bit less than 8500$. I think he sells them for around a grand less. I will see him today and will have to ask him if everride is in trouble.

Envy Lawn Service
09-17-2006, 11:13 AM
Envy, in your avatar I see a Lesco ZTR. Do you like it? I have not cut with one, but looked one over from top to bottom many times while in Lesco getting fert, and they seemed to be rough around the edges so to speak. There is a yard across the street from one of my accounts that the guy cuts with a Lesco and the cut looks terrible, but who knows if his blades are kept reasonably sharp or not.

Where are you located in NC?

Do I like it??? Love the dang thing.
The cut is great and there are a lot of nice features you grow to appreciate.
The service through Lesco is tops too.

They 'looked' rough around the edges to me too when I first looked at them. What I've realized is that it's not that really, but that they look 'different' because they have non-standard styling. Most of it is because of the fuel tanks being mounted backwards compared to pretty much the rest of the industry.

I'm located about 80 miles northwest of Charlotte.

I bought mine down in Winston-Salem.