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Runner
11-20-2003, 08:47 PM
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of the X485 Garden tractor? I looked at this the other day, and am swayed in that direction. I've shopped for quite some time for a small tractor, and this thind is one nice package for the money. 25 hp, fuel injected - liquid cooled. Hydrostatic, w/power steering. With a 54"mower deck, a 48" in. Hydraulic tiller, and a front loader, this package is 14k - out the door. Now, I know, 25 hp may not be all that much, but for the price,.. it's well worth it. Being fuel injested, it would help. For tilling, moving dirt or rocks, pulling a boxscraper or aerator, and things of this sort, it would do fine. Someone on here said not long ago that they have a bushhog that they use with their 25 hp, but I've been told by SEVeral that for a bushhog, you don't want to go under 33-35 hp, so you have enough out the back. A compact tractor, around 30 hp, is around 16 grand, with NO attachments. Does anyone have one of these X series?

mmacsek
11-20-2003, 10:16 PM
Runner,
I hope this helps with your decision. I have an older JD 318 with a loader and a 50" mower deck. Mine has an 18hp Onan, hydrostatic, and power steering. This tractor amaze's me, especially the loader. I plan on using it for a pull behind aerator next year. I understand the hydraulic tiller does a great job. The x485 is a bigger tractor and more power. With the fuel injection the gas consumption should be alot better then mine. Good luck and hope this helped. Matt

J.Gordon
11-21-2003, 12:09 AM
''Someone on here said not long ago that they have a bushhog that they use with their 25 hp, but I've been told by several that for a bushhog, you don't want to go under 33-35 hp, so you have enough out the back.''

Runner, 25 Hp is plenty for a bushhog. Being its not too big. I had a 14 HP. Diesel 4-wd compact that would pull a 4-footer easily. Just make sure your tractor has enough weight to pull the cutter without bringing the front-end off the ground when you raise the three-point.

lamarbur
11-22-2003, 07:59 AM
you have to watch these HP ratings on tractors. Half od them state gross engine HP and the other half state PTO HP. I have a Mahindra 41 hP (engine), it has 33 HP at the PTO and I use a 5 ft Befco hog mower. Most of the time I have a Bradco 11 ft hoe hanging off the backend.

Avery
12-07-2003, 09:14 PM
You don't have to worry about that with JD. They give both engine and PTO HP. And they underrate both of those.

newleaflandscape
01-14-2004, 07:30 PM
Ya to give you an idea i have a 1070 and it is rated a thirty nine horsepower. But what some people dont realize is that back in the day horsepower ratings were set at half throttle now however these newer tractors are rated by the horsepower when it is wide open. Something to think about. What is nice about having something a little bigger, when you are running anything off the pto, you dont have to run it wide open for it to work conveniently. Make sure you think about john deere a little more. If I could do it again I think I would buy a New Holland. The damn parts are so expensive. I called to see how much the three point hitch would be because we lost ours, just the arms and sway chains were 1900 dollars. Ridiculous. I called New Holland to see what a new three point would be and it was only 600 bucks. I have to say these New Hollands have so many convenience features on them now. My next tractor will deffinitly be one of those, but I have to say my deere has ran real great for me.

olderthandirt
01-14-2004, 10:58 PM
Runner
New Holland tc-30, 30hp Diesel $13,500 otd 4x4 with a loader

Mac

Imow4u2
01-18-2004, 12:54 PM
For about the same money you can jump to a 4115 and have some thing.. It you stay with the 400 series I would go with the 495 so you get the diesel and be sure to get the cat. 1 3 point which is an option with this new series... If you are serious about the loader step up to the 595 and get 4wd

prolawnguy
03-13-2004, 10:06 AM
I wouldnt buy an X series without 4-wheel drive. I have an X585 and love it. Spend the xtra especially if you are going to pull an aerator on hilly areas. It is worth its weight in gold. If you figure the cost of weights and stuff like that on a 2 wheel setup the cost just about averages out.

57ringo
03-15-2004, 06:23 PM
Does anyone have a rear PTO and a 3 point for sale to fit an X485?

32fever
03-30-2004, 11:07 AM
I've been out shopping as well. I found two JD dealers and was surprised at the price difference. Apparently 1 of them doesn't need to sell stuff:)

But, in looking at a 585 or 595 (one had 585SE in stock) and the 2210, the 2210 is actually less money. Both places tried steering me in that direction. Anyone have any experience with the 2210? I looked at a 4110, but it's a little larger than I need.

Was looking at Kubota BX2230 as a comparison.

Any comments? Did they tell you about the 2210 when you looked at the 485? I heard the loader comes on and off easier with the 2210 than X series, but not sure if that's true. I don't think they had recent experience with them (even though they are dealers)

32fever
03-30-2004, 11:14 AM
Oh, and the 2210 came in at less $$ than the Kubota. That kinda surprised me.

Stewart
03-30-2004, 04:12 PM
My local JD dealer had a 2210 with FEL, box blade, 5' brushhog and tandem axel big tex trailer for just over $13,000 for what it is worth. Good luck!

clcare
03-31-2004, 08:26 PM
loader without 4x4? useless!!
buy the 2210 or bx22 Kubota.
3point hitch is requirement for any business

gl1200a
04-01-2004, 02:47 PM
My Father has a 2 yr old X495 with the 62" convertible deck and the 49" one stage blower. Great machine! The diesel is what's needed for the extra torque. Well designed, comfortable and a real work horse. It throws snow 30 feet.

Red Hemlocker
04-09-2004, 09:40 PM
check out the Kubota BX23. I bought mine with loader, 54" mower and backhoe for $17,000. 17 hp@pto. As lamarbur stated, check hp @ pto. 48" tiller may be too much. I bought a 39" DelMorino tiller with sliding head for $1,500.00, works great. BX23 is very user friendly. Loader, bakhoe, mower disconnects without wrenches in about 2 miutes.