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sildoc
01-10-2004, 05:23 PM
Ok, again as you all know I have been the market for a 36" mower. Well today the toro dealer finally made my mind up, I think that is. They offered me the 36" hydro fixed deck with mulch kit for 3600.00 that is about maybe 50 over there costs. Any ways my other options are the exmark tthp 36" 04 for 4100 and a husqvarn 42" hydro floating deck for 4000.00. Neither the exmark and husky price include the mulch kit.
Would you all stay with the toro 36 proline or would you spend the extra on the exmark of the husky?

Fareway Lawncare
01-10-2004, 05:35 PM
The main problem I have w/my Toro hydro's is the T-Bar control is not condusive to independent wheel control on zero turns which can lead to more 3 point turns & divoting on z turns.

sildoc
01-10-2004, 05:46 PM
Sorry i did not mention that the toro was pistol grip. Thank you for your input.

newmanfan
01-10-2004, 05:56 PM
I am a dealer, so I may be biased. But we also carry other lines too.

The Toro fixed deck with pistol grip is a fine mower. Offers good quality of cut, and bagging. The NW is not conducive for mulching commercially. My biggest customers has one with the Kawasaki engine. Several hours on unit, and no problems. Just regular service.

The Kohler engine is good, but many guys don't like the sound of the hydraulic valve lifters.

Sounds like you are getting a good mower, with a great deal.

bayfish
01-10-2004, 06:24 PM
I have 2 Toro hydro w/b's and have had very good service from them. :waving:

proenterprises
01-10-2004, 06:25 PM
i have seldom used toro mowers but a few times. i woudl for sure go with the pistol grip model...i used a t bar once and absolutley hated it. maybe it is just a preference, but i would not buy a t bar machine ever.

good luck.

Rick Jones
01-10-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by newmanfan

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The Kohler engine is good, but many guys don't like the sound of the hydraulic valve lifters.
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Is that like some sort of a clattering sound at low to mid throttle? I've got a Toro Hydro 36" w/ the 15 horse Kohler and it makes a sound I don't really like at about mid-throttle.

TRex
01-10-2004, 07:28 PM
I would go for the Exmark TTHP with the floating deck. The ease of taking the deck off and changing blades is the greatest.

energy
01-10-2004, 11:12 PM
newmanfan, you are a dealer? how much are the actual invoice on those mowers? Im sure they are a lot cheaper than what sildoc is saying. sildoc, fix deck is just fine if you dont mind changing the spacers once in a while to do various type grasses. we usually have only two types here, bahia and st augustine. i do all the st augustine's first then bahia so i only change the spacers once a day on my Stander. Fixed deck gives a better cut when it comes to turns. i used to notice a little scalping with my ZTR adjustable deck when i made turns. just keep all tires inflated evenly and you will have no problems, especially on a 36". dealers always tell you it is only blah blah amount over their cost, but that is their sales pitch. slap $3400 cash on the counter tell him that is all you have, take it or leave it and throw in the tax too. I bet you will be surprised with the outcome.

sildoc
01-10-2004, 11:23 PM
There is no tax in Oregon. I have a list of what the exmark 36 cost the dealer here and I know that it is 3695 for the 36 tthp and that includes the shipping to their door. so for the toro fixed I figure that with shipping I am guessing 3500 was about right in 2002. Mind you this is with the mulch kit. I don't mind the dealer making a little other wise he wont be around for long. Any ways The west coast is more expensive to live in than that we see of the east coast and mid west. Don't get me wrong there are places like New York city and Jersey and such that cost to live in but per capita no comparison.

energy
01-11-2004, 01:05 PM
no sales tax in Oregon?!! WoW!!!

I tell you what, if i lived anywhere nearby, i would travel there to purchase anything i need. listen if you have the cash, i mean the bills, it never hurts to try. you are thinking right about them making more money or they wont be around. think about it if you were a salesman, would you rather make a sale and make a little money or let the person walk out the door to the next guy? i dont make a lot of money, but i make my money s-t-r-e-t-c-h as much as i can. i have a family friend who bought the exact Viewpoint genuine leather couch and chair for $5000 and i paid only $1800 for mine! He is rich, but when i told him, he got sick. I apply this to everything i buy, cars, lawnmowers, even food. If my idea works, you techinically have almost enough money to buy you a trimmer, edger, hedge clipper, or a blower. Makes sense? if you let them dictate your purchase, they win you lose.

sildoc
01-11-2004, 01:33 PM
energy, This is true, however they started out at 4700.00 after countless talks with other toro, exmark, husky, john deer, and a honda dealer that has a 99 for sale, this is the best deal so far. Although I would have bought the honda if we received enough snow to make it worth buying (had a snowblower attachment with it for 4000.00).
I have also been up and down the west coast from southern oregon to northern washington and they are still beating most prices. Although I had a better price in washington by the time sales tax was added It was almost 200 more. I will try the green back approach but I rather pay a little and get good and quick service if I were to break down. I Have all of the trimmers, edgers, hedge trimmers and blowers that I need at this time. My next purchase will be an enclosed trailer probably sometime at the end of next season. Then I will have to really travel since the two trailer sales places here are a bigggggggg rip and do not deal.
I am still waiting to hear from the exmark dealer to see if he will match but told the toro guy I have to wait a couple of days till I could come and do the transaction. We will see.

I can tell you all that when I was looking in the season all shops were holding firm at roughly over a grand over their costs. Now is the time to buy with new machines coming out on the market and tax comming due.

sbvfd592
01-11-2004, 01:48 PM
Exmark and never look back. We have over 80,000 in toro equptment at a GC i worked and my exmark could out mow them any day of the week better stipeing better all around construction.

lawnchopper
01-11-2004, 01:57 PM
we bought a toro 36" fixed deck belt driven. It cuts wonderful we even build a plate to cover the shoot so we could mulch with it....the only problem with it I feel is that since the deck is so light its seems to jump around alot so its harder to control. If it wasnt for back yard gates to worry about i would rather have a toro 44" hydo.

sildoc
01-11-2004, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by sbvfd592
Exmark and never look back. We have over 80,000 in toro equptment at a GC i worked and my exmark could out mow them any day of the week better stipeing better all around construction.
exmark is a 180 mile drive. toro 15 miles husky 13 miles, hustler 180 miles.
exmark is my number one but the drive if something breaks is a dreadful thought.

FrankenScagMachines
01-11-2004, 09:35 PM
The Toro pistol grip hydro fixed deck is 99% the same as eXmark. The other 1% is the decals :p Toro builds quality machines anyway, IMHO, their downfall is the SFS deck, but a fixed deck is same as Exmark. Fixed deck is no problem. Not as convenient as floating deck to change heights, but very livable. If the dealer is good, GET IT! Sounds like they're bending over backward to get you a good deal. Just ask around about this dealer to check if it's good. If they're not, go get the Husqy.

newmanfan
01-12-2004, 09:54 AM
Sorry Energy- Not our company policy to share that information.

energy
01-12-2004, 11:25 PM
come on newmanfan, this is a learning forum, isnt it? what does it matter what the actual invoice cost to you is on any particular item? the decision to make the sale final boils down to you, the seller. give sildoc, me and some other interested discussion members some insight. the trend of negotiating is already in effect, why not enlighten us on your cost?

homerescue
01-13-2004, 08:09 PM
my toro dealer in wv had the 44" hydro floating deck pistol new for 3900.00

sildoc
01-14-2004, 04:45 PM
Well I did it. Pick it up next monday when they get the mulch kit on and everything lubed and such. 3689 with mulch kit and proslide. I must admit I hated parting with that much cash. Oh well I will be makin it come march 10 fold. Thanks for everyones input. I just wish they would get exmark and scag dealer closer so I can really compare.