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01-12-2004, 04:45 PM
I thought I would post some pictures of my stuff while I wait for some more snow to get here:)


1995 Chevy K2500hd
5.7L V8 4x4 Auto
4.10 gears overload springs
200amp HO alternator and Dual batteries

EZ-Dumper with sides

Western Unimount snowplow 7.5'
w/ prowings (for a 9'4" clearing width)

Taken last fall

01-12-2004, 04:46 PM
#2 Plowing 8" of snow on Jan 4th, 2004

01-12-2004, 04:53 PM

2003 JD Ztrak 757
60" 7-Iron Deck
25HP Kawasaki
Powerflow bagger
Looking for an OCDC if anyone has info

2002 JD GS30 Walk behind
36" fixed deck
13HP Kohler
Gear drive
Side catcher

2001 JX75 21"
6HP Kawasaki
Blade clutch
5 speed

#3 Taken when new on Oct 17, 2003

01-12-2004, 04:54 PM
Taken when new on Apr 6, 2003

01-12-2004, 04:55 PM
#5 Apr 23, 2003

01-12-2004, 04:59 PM
Two Cycle

(1) Stihl FS85 String trimmer
(1) Stihl FC85 Stick edger
(1) Stihl HS75 Hedge clippers
(1) Stihl BG85 Handheld Blower
(2) JD BP60 Backpack Blowers


01-12-2004, 05:00 PM

01-12-2004, 05:01 PM

01-12-2004, 05:07 PM

Lesco stainless spreader, just passed pest. app. test

Older Troy-bilt rear tine tiller

26"/8HP mtd two stage snowblower

Lots of other stuff

01-12-2004, 05:24 PM
Ryan, how do you like your edger. Im contemplating between the half shaft unit for my FS85, or just buying the complete unit. this year I bought a FS46 trimmer and use it alot more than my 85. This would free up the powerhead if the 85. I bought the hedge trimmer attachment and love it. Info?

Expert Lawns
01-12-2004, 05:29 PM
that is some pretty equipment. seeing all that green makes me anxious for spring

01-12-2004, 07:35 PM
TLC9 -

I love the edger. It works great. I've never had it clog with the new design. The giant debris flap works great also, never get any mud on my legs anymore.

I personally like having a dedicated piece of equipment if i use it a lot. If I were to have an extended hedge trimmer, pole pruner, and power sweeper, then I might buy a split shaft unit for those three.

Is your fs85 a solid shaft or does it have a split in the middle? Either way, if you don't use it as a trimmer very often, I would just put the edger attatchment on it. I would buy the straight shaft if you do decide on that.

Here's a close shot of the head on the edger. You can see the huge debris flap and the no-clog design.

01-12-2004, 09:25 PM
GLS how about a picture of the duel battery setup.

01-12-2004, 09:57 PM
nice gear man!!!!!!!!!!!

01-12-2004, 10:53 PM
Dual battery setup.

Bought the drivers side tray from dealer and two new batteries. Hooked them up in parallel. Twice the reserve capacity.

Not shown in this pic is the new 200amp alternator. Upgraded from stock 105 amp unit. I have a pic of the two alts next to each other if anyone wants to see em.

01-12-2004, 10:57 PM
what do you run two batts for (sorry if stupid question)

maybe your amber light?

Green Care
01-12-2004, 11:23 PM
It may be for other things such as plow,dump or spreader I think.

01-13-2004, 03:46 PM
The main reason I run two batteries is for the plow. It sucks a lot of juice raising/angling it several times a minute. I also am running the mini lightbar on top, headlights, two rear aux. lamps and two front/side aux. lamps (not shown in pics) in addition to the heater and stereo. So that puts quite a load on the electrical system.

01-13-2004, 04:30 PM
Very nice! I am not a Chevy man or a John Deere man but I have always admired your setup. It looks very clean, professional and very well kept. The truck is just gorgeous! Those wheels are great on it and that is my favorite Chevy body style anyway. Nice setup! The lawns in the photos look top-notch as well.
Arenít you thinking about a larger trailer sometime? Looks like itís big enough but crowded for extras? Does the trailer have brakes?

01-13-2004, 04:45 PM
Thanks Eric.

Things are getting very crowded on this trailer. What I would really like is an enclosed trailer (like a 8.5' x 16), but I don't really have money for one right now. If I bought a 16' open trailer, I would have to unload all of the stuff everyday. The trailer I have now gets backed into garage, just barely fits. I think I will have to make due with the trailer I have now for a while.

Trailer doesn't have brakes but I am considering adding them. We'll see what happens.

Here is a pic of the trailer at the end of last season. I have no floor space left. It is especially crammed in the fall because I have no room for blowers etc. in truck bed with leaves back there.

You can see I even have the gate tilted back so the hopper can stay on the z.

01-13-2004, 05:13 PM
lets see a picture of the alternator setup.im not into plowing yet but i will be and i own a chevy truck so im getting some ideas.

01-13-2004, 05:54 PM
I bought the alternator from a company called Alterstart (http://www.4alterstart.com) (<--click for website).

They list it as $250 on their site but they sell it on ebay for $200.

I've only had it on for about a month, but so far so good. I've got to plow with the new setup too. It works great.

First pic shows the new alt. next to the old stock alt. It's not huge, but it's a lot bigger than the stock one.

01-13-2004, 05:55 PM
And this one just shows it bolted in to place.

I forgot to mention, it bolts right on with no modifications.

01-13-2004, 07:41 PM
Wow you're packed tighter than I thought! I'd noticed the tilted gate. if you could get the enclosed in the same color as your truck that would be really sweet! The HO alternator and dual batteries is a great idea.

Expert Lawns
01-13-2004, 08:22 PM
GLS, tight squeeze but it must get the job done. looks good

01-13-2004, 08:53 PM
looks like a nice setup does anyone know any sites on how to setup a duel battery...

01-13-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by randy2625
looks like a nice setup does anyone know any sites on how to setup a duel battery...
Easy- just add a tray and battery and run a heavy gauge cable from positive to positive and negative to negative. Leave the power cables for the vehicle hooked to the original battery just like they were.

01-14-2004, 07:23 PM
Everything looks so new, how many hours do you have on the mowers

01-14-2004, 11:07 PM
ZTR only has about 20 hours, I bought it late fall.

Walk Behind has about 125 hours.

21" doesn't have an hour meter, but it has been used a lot. That is the mower I started with. It probably has about 300 hours on it. I wish I would have added an hour meter to it. I will next time.

Basically all of the 2-cycle stuff shown was bought new within the last year except the fs85 which I have used 2 seasons.

Truck, plow, and dumper are 1995. Truck has 85,000 on it.

Trailer is a 2002.

01-16-2004, 01:53 PM
Everything looks great!! It's nice to see some other Deere's on this site...not too many from what I've seen.

Is your 21" self-propelled? I'm running JS 63 3-speed mowers (and a 36" JD walk behind). Looking to get a more powerful Deere 21" this spring though.

01-16-2004, 02:38 PM
Thanks Jeff.

Yes, the 21" is self propelled, 5 speed.

If you like your js63's, you'd love the jx75. The 6hp kawasaki engine is great. It has .75hp less then your engine, but it probably has more torque and feels more powerful.

Blade clutch is also a plus...if there is a stick or some trash in the way, all you have to do islet go, pick it up, and keep mowing. Don't have to restart it. Also nice if you bag a lot.

01-19-2004, 11:24 AM
After 10 hours a day i have no time to keep my stuff this clean . Do you wax your equipment or something. All my stuff looks used , is all your stuff new?

01-19-2004, 12:59 PM
Almost every picture I posted was taken when the equipment was new. It does not stay that clean, although I blow them off at the end of the day and try to wash them about once a month. They never have or never will recieve a coat of wax:)

Almost forgot...I added brakes to the trailer. Trailer side costed about $200 which includes (2) electric brake assemblies, (2) drum and hub assemblies, breakaway kit, wiring, and 7-pin plug.

I didn't have a brake controller in the truck either so that was another $100.

It was easy to do and well worth it IMO. Stops a lot better now.

01-19-2004, 03:28 PM
I love the lettering on your truck. It is a must to have B I G eyegrabbing letters. Another thing I like about the lettering is that you didn't put too much info, to read quickly. Simply: lawn mowing and snow plowing.

Overall terrific looking rig.

hole in one lco
01-19-2004, 04:24 PM
You will need a capacitor if you wont to run batt in seres.If you are going to put a good amount of lode on your batt by optima.

and i think somebody owns stock in JD

:D :D :D

01-19-2004, 09:55 PM
Ryan thats a awsome set up! do you have a AOL OR AIM s/n?

01-20-2004, 03:44 PM

sbvfd592 - I had AIM a long time ago but I don't even remember what my s/n was. You can PM me or E-mail me if you want though.

01-20-2004, 08:59 PM
Nice Equipment GLS!

Randy2625- You can wire two battery up in two different way.
1st is called a parallel connection which is what GLS did like already said you simply add another battery and connect the positive to positive and negitive to negitive terminals. Then pull your negitive charge and positive charges form seperate batteries.

2nd is call a series connection which is where you connect a positve terminal from one battery and a negitive terminal from the other then pull you positve and negitve charges from the two remaining terminals again on seperate batteries.

Which one you will need is depenant on what the use is. The series connection is what most disieltruck are setup on. They require alot of voltage all at one time. A parallel

01-20-2004, 09:01 PM
Sorry hit the wrong button. A parallel circuit will double your amp/hour therfore allowing you to be able to run more electrical equipment.

01-20-2004, 10:14 PM
Just cruising this post - Series hook up doubles voltage - do not use or you'll fry stuff!

Franchi Contractors
01-21-2004, 01:53 AM
yea definatly a nice setup Ryan

01-30-2004, 01:08 PM
Nice setup Ryan... Those mowers are nice, especially the ZT

01-30-2004, 02:15 PM
Nice Equipment Ryan! How do you like your E-Z Dumper? What is the capacity? I am considering purchasing one this fall.

01-30-2004, 04:24 PM
Thanks Mike.

trimmerhead - I love the ezdumper. It's worth every penny.

Not sure if you want weight capacity or area, so i'll give you both.

Weight capacity of dumper itself is 3 tons I think. But, the truck can only handle 1.5 tons with dumper in it.

Dumper without sides will hold 2 cu. yds. With my sides on it will hold about 4.5 cu. yds.

jason r.
01-30-2004, 08:59 PM
What size is your trailer? Very nice stuff. Love the dumper!!

01-30-2004, 11:56 PM
The trailer is a 6x12 and isn't big enough:realmad:

I bought the 12' to begin with because it was big enough for what I had and anything bigger wouldn't fit in my garage. If I upgraded to a 16' I would have to unload everything at night and keep the trailer outside. What I really need is an enclosed trailer. But, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

01-31-2004, 11:58 AM
I would definitely go with an enclosed trailer. I have a Haulmark that is 8 1/2' by 16' that i will never get rid of. It only costs around $5,400 with the landscapers kit, so if you can afford it get it.

01-31-2004, 02:48 PM
Looks like your set up very nice Ryan. Thanks for the pictures. Very impressive.
Did you make the wooden sides on your ez dumper?

01-31-2004, 03:03 PM
Yes, I made the sides for the dumper PJ.

I can't decide if I want to paint them or not?

What do you guys think? I was considering painting them black but not sure.

01-31-2004, 05:29 PM
man GLS that setup is making me drule, everthing tou did looks so professional especially the sides of the ez dumper

01-31-2004, 06:23 PM
I can't decide if I want to paint them or not?
Actually , I like the natural look. IMO I would just polyeurothane them

02-02-2004, 02:22 AM
IMO, I would paint my sides black to match the ezdumper but polyuerothaning them would still look good and protect them from the weather.

02-11-2004, 10:28 AM
actully ryan i like your sides the way they are now, as far as putting a coat of polyurathane would not be a good idea, its just dosen't hold up IMO. i would use a good quality water sealer and just seal them mabye once a year and they should last a long time. I would recomend either olympic water sealer or thompsons

11-08-2004, 02:31 PM
I just recently bought a new JD 757 60" ,, I saw your pics and was curious if you used any kind of a stripe kit on your mower ?


11-09-2004, 07:58 PM
No striping kit, it's all stock. We've thought about adding one, but think it stripes fine without one.

11-12-2004, 12:37 AM
GLS, How many accounts do you have?

Any problems with the truck? Hows the gas milage?

Nice looking setup!

11-12-2004, 07:46 PM
~35 lawn maintenance contracts in 2004. We do a lot of landscape maintenance (shurb trimming, mulching, etc.) and landscaping also. Gotta keep a light load until college is finished.

The chevy has been a real good truck. It's almost to 100k of hard miles. No major problems. Water pump, starter, and head gasket replacement (common problem on the 350's) is all I can think of. Gas mileage is 7-8 towing the trailer, up to 12mpg on the highway.

The duramax hasn't had any problems yet. It's getting a blizzard 810 snowplow this weekend. The fuel mileage for it is up to 18 on the highway, about 12 towing the trailer in town (both trucks are driven with a heavy foot).

I don't know if I ever posted a pic of the duramax in this thread, so here is one:

Eric 1
11-12-2004, 08:24 PM
Man if that aint one pretty truck.

11-17-2004, 11:08 PM
one nice thing of a truck like mine (one ton flatbed with sides) i can haul 10 yards of debris with open top sides, and up to 4 tons (3.5 would be alot better). gotta 7.5 liter big block 460, EFI, hooked to a a/t with 3.55 gears gets 6 mpg towing trailer around town, maybe 8 without trailer on highway (once got 9 babying it).

That dual exhaust on your blue truck? Both are sharp trucks.

11-18-2004, 12:37 PM
The blue truck has a cat-back dual exhaust, no muffler. The black one will be getting a 4" exhaust soon, probably without a muffler.

What size is the deck on your truck FSM? We might put a dumping flatbed on the blue truck someday, it obviously wouldn't be as big as yours. Did you ever get a hoist put on it? That would be a must for us.

11-22-2004, 10:52 AM
Ryan, it is a 7.5' x 12' bed. No dumper yet :crying: shooting for one next season. Alot of the pictures of my truck you have seen were a 8' wide bed but 12' long. If you've seen it with the tall red steel sides then that is a 7.5' wide 12' long bed. I changed the beds to accomodate the sides, and the few inches in width dropped helps visibility issues with the mirrors and trailer and all.
If you go with a dumping bed on your blue truck, I think 7 or 7.5' wide would be good, and 8 or 9' long I'd say would be a good managable size. Thing about that type of setup vs. what you now have, you will gain capacity in weight and volume because your current setup has to weigh quite a bit by itself, and takes alot of usable space too. Flatbeds are more versatile as you know, with easily interchangable side options, the ability to side-load pallets (run a spreader on the receiver hitch and load pallets of salt on the bed in winter), not worry about it getting beat up a little here and there, unlike a pickup bed worrying about getting it dented.
Good luck with everything. You have a nice setup. How's the trailer situation coming along?

11-22-2004, 07:58 PM
Thanks Eric. We have rearranged some stuff on the trailer so it is easier to load/unload. We have 2 backpack blower racks and 2 backpack sprayer racks along with the trimmer rack that was already there. The rest of the junk is pretty much out of the way, except for the bagging pieces (ie blower, chute). It's actually pretty efficient now. We'll probably be keeping the current trailer for a while. Most likely will get a dump trailer before a larger landscape trailer.

11-22-2004, 08:24 PM
If you are getting a dump trailer, would you still need the '95 Chevy? You may come out money ahead if you sell that truck and get a dump trailer, plus have alot more capacity than the dumper in your pickup. A dump trailer would be useful for alot of things and you already have a really nice and reliable, very capable truck with your new crew cab there, so a backup truck may not be too necessary.

11-22-2004, 08:37 PM
We would probably use a dump trailer mostly for landscaping materials like mulch, gravel, stone, etc. The dump insert would still be nice to have to through debris into when hauling the mowers around. Not sure if I mentioned earlier or not but me and my brother run the business, so we need two trucks. They both have plows now...we just installed a blizzard 810 on the dmax. Hopefully we get alot of snow this winter payup

Eric 1
11-22-2004, 08:49 PM
With just 1 trailer why do you need 2 trucks. You had just the 1 for a long time.

11-22-2004, 09:03 PM
1) Needed another plow truck. 2) One of us can take one to do a job where trailer is un-needed (hedge trimming, landscaping, etc) and the other can mow. 3) Personal vehicle. 4) We'll get more use out of the trucks in the future.

Eric 1
11-22-2004, 10:09 PM
After i posted i realized, that makes good sense.

John P.
11-24-2004, 07:10 PM
I love that truck, it looks really nice. What do you think of it? Im thinking about making a switch from my chevy 3500 dolley to a single rear whell reg. cab 2500. How is it for plowing? Towing? and hauling loads?

11-24-2004, 08:52 PM
I could not bring myself to work in that nice of a truck. Your set-up seems perfect... a 36" and a 60" really do the trick. You must have green in your blood!! Congrats at doing so well at 18!!

11-24-2004, 10:15 PM
Hey, i was wondering is the size of your trailer? I'm kinda in this dilemma of what size trailer to buy. I have a 48 and a 36 walk behind but some day if i require the right size accounts i want to buy a viper 62 with a Peco and was wondering if a 6x12 would be to small. Thanks

11-25-2004, 02:25 AM
I've got a 6x12 right now, I pack a 60" ztr, a 21" wb, and a 36" wb and that is a full load. I have to put the 36 on at an angle across the back, kind of a pain but it fits. If I were you go with a 14 or 16 an extra 2-4 feet can make a huge difference and it won't make that much difference on price. I'm stepping up to an 18 foot dovetail with rear and side gates, I'll have it in March and will post some pics.

11-25-2004, 11:51 AM
Which truck are you talking about? If your talking about the GMC, then I can't answer for plowing yet because we havn't had any snow yet. It should plow great other than the fact that the turning radius is on the long side. It tows great, the duramax (all diesels would) has tons of power. It hauls very well too; don't feel like the things going to fall apart when the beds overloaded a little. If you meant the chevy, then it too is a great truck. Plowing-wise, it is perfect. It could use a little more power for towing, but it's not too bad. EZdumper makes hauling materials a breeze. We abuse the thing when it comes to hauling. We constantly haul 5 cy of mulch, 2 tons of gravel occasionally, all in addition to the weight of the dump. Let me know if you any other questions about the trucks.

Our trailer is a 6x12. It was fine at first, but it is on the small side now. We are able to cram a 60" ztr, 36" wb, and 21" on it. A 16' would work a heck of a lot better though. We went with the 12' so it would fit in the garage (no unloading at the end of the day). We will probably step up if we get a shop or something someday. I would go 16' if I was you.

11-25-2004, 05:18 PM
thanks for the info

John P.
11-26-2004, 12:36 AM
What is the most weight you have had in your chevy 2500 dump insert,and and it was still able to ride fine?

11-26-2004, 10:05 PM
I feel comfortable with 2 tons (plus the ~700lbs dumper). The tires feel a little squishy over 2 tons.

This is probably the heaviest load we've had in it. Don't know the weight, it was measured by volume. The loader operator had a different interpretation of a cubic yard than I'm used to I guess.

Gilla Gorilla
11-26-2004, 11:43 PM
Hey GLS was that pile on the driveway from one dump with the ez dumper???
If so that was a hell of a lot of top soil.

11-27-2004, 12:05 AM
Yep, that's one load. It's actually compost so it's probably lighter than you'd think.

John P.
11-27-2004, 03:36 AM
You said that you felt comfortable with two tons in the k 2500 dumper...............is that truck stock as far as tires and suspension go? What have you done to that truck besides the dump insert and plow. And how do you like the k 2500 as a landscape truck?

11-27-2004, 10:45 AM
It has a set of overload springs on the rear. Tires have been upsized to a 265/75/R16 D, higher load capacity but not a E rated tire. That is pretty much all we have done to the truck. Can't do a whole lot...the axle on this truck is a semi-floater, didn't get a full-floater unless the truck had a 454 or a 6.5 diesel. No problems yet though.

John P.
11-27-2004, 04:59 PM
What are the overload springs? Are they the same thing as like "add a leaf"? What was the cost of that upgrade, and the benefits of having them. Do you feel like you are up to the same suspension as a one ton truck?

11-28-2004, 03:37 PM
The overload springs I have are an extra set of leaf springs that contact only with a load. You could also simply add springs to the factory set. Other options are air bags or timbren load boosters.

Cost for mine I don't know. They came with the truck when I bought it. They work great though. Very little sag when loaded. Does it feel like a one ton truck? I guess suspension wise it does.

The first picture shows the overload springs on the top. Factory overload spring on the bottom.

The second picture shows the springs under load (very heavy load :D )

John P.
11-28-2004, 10:02 PM
What did you pay for the chevy? Have you had it sence new? And what jobs have you taken on that you felt the truck did not have enough power or could not haul enough to make the job alot easier?

11-28-2004, 10:15 PM
We bought it two years ago with about 60,000 miles on it. One owner before us, which was my uncle. Paid $10k, which included the snowplow and ez-dumper. I thought it was a pretty good deal considering we wouldn't have to add a plow or ezdumper (I know trucks that come with a plow might have been put through extra abuse, but I know what its been through being that it was my uncles). Great starter rig in my opinion.

Honestly, it suits our needs perfectly. I always want MORE power, but it has plenty for what it does. Same goes for hauling, you could always use MORE capacity. But we seldom have big jobs that require extensive hauling.

John P.
11-29-2004, 06:48 PM
I saw in one picture you had the dump insert in, and in another picture (the one of you snow plowing) it was out. Are the dump inserts something that can be taken in and out easily? I hear they weigh 700 pounds.

11-29-2004, 07:37 PM
They are fairly easy to remove/install. Unhook from battery, unbolt 4 bolts, and slide it out. Our method involves 2 sawhorses (height of truck bed) and a few guys. After it is all unhooked, slide the unit out a few feet. Put the back end on one sawhorse. THen, have two guys holding the unit back and have the third guy drive the truck forward. Once the unit is almost all of the way out, put the second sawhorse in place on the front end of the unit. Then just drive the truck the rest of the way out. No lifting involved, just sliding.

Here's a picture of it on the stands. Works very well for us. We take it out in the off season to get rid of the added weight, add visibility while plowing, and prolong the life of the dumper by avoiding road salt.

This picture was prior to a repaint...

John P.
11-29-2004, 07:44 PM
Thats what powers the dump to be able to handle 3 tons!!!! (that is the motor directly below the window guard isn't it???) You might have told me this before and if you did I'm sorry................but what did you pay for the insert? What have you hauled with it.......i figure you have hauled mulch and i saw the pic of the compost you hauled, but what other jobs have you done with it? And what big benifits have you seen with it?????


11-29-2004, 08:30 PM
Thats what powers the dump to be able to handle 3 tons!!!! (that is the motor directly below the window guard isn't it???) You might have told me this before and if you did I'm sorry................but what did you pay for the insert? What have you hauled with it.......i figure you have hauled mulch and i saw the pic of the compost you hauled, but what other jobs have you done with it? And what big benifits have you seen with it?????


His insert came with the truck.

11-29-2004, 10:29 PM
As ALarsh already said, the insert came with the truck when I bought it. But you can get a new one for around $2,000-$2,500.

This particular year of dump insert has a lift capacity of 2 tons rather than 3 tons. Never had it not be able to lift a load though.

We have hauled all kinds of material in it. Crushed stone, mulch, topsoil, compost, leaves, grass, brush, river gravel, sand, the list goes on.

Types of jobs it is used for: debris disposal (grass, leaves, brush), hauling crushed stone, gravel, sand for landscaping jobs, etc.

Another great benefit is being able to load wheelbarrows easily. You can tip the dumper up a little bit, just before material slides out. Put a wheelbarrow under the gate and slide the material out, no scooping involved. Huge time and labor saver.

Some more pics:
1. The motor, gets the job done. This one is much different than newer ones.
2. Scissor lift system. Also gets the job done. There are a few brands that have telescoping cylinders.
3. Using a ramp to load sod from edging.
4. Dumping out a load of sand.
5 (6). Using the "sliding material out" technique with sand for a walkway job.

11-29-2004, 10:33 PM
A couple more pics.

1. Using the sliding out material into wheelbarrow technique again with mulch.

2. Hauling chopped up leaves...Mulching then bagging with ztr, then dumping bags in dumper.

Even if we did nothing but use the dumper to put debris from maintenance work (leaves, grass, shrub clippings...), I think the dumper is still worth it. Would like to get the truck craft aluminum shorty model for the gmc.

Another use for an insert is to use a tailgate salt spreader. A few of the manufacturers offer a spreader for their inserts (truck craft, downeaster, and I think ezdumper now). Would like one of these in the future too.

John P.
11-29-2004, 11:07 PM
GLS ........thanks for all the great pictures. I really appreciate the all the pictures you post. You have some really nice equipment and two great trucks!!! I was wondering if you could tell me a Little bit about you company, and the history if you wouldn't't mind. (accounts, how many sides jobs you normally do, those types of things)

11-30-2004, 03:34 PM
About the company. Well it's me (18 years old) and my brother (20 years old). We are both obtaining degrees in horticulture, so we might be considered part-timers for now. Business was officially established in March 2003. Like a lot of guys, we started cutting at a young age, before either of us could drive. Slowly obtained more and more equipment (and QUICKLY learned that buying commercial equipment pays off). Started off with an '89 chevy halfton loading equipment in the back. Later bought a 4x8 to accomodate a lawn tractor. Finally stepped up to a 6x12 to fit all of the gear onto. Then bought the chevy truck. etc...

As I said above, we are both in school so we don't take on a whole lot of work yet. Lawn maintenance contracts was about 35 this year, varying sized lawns. Snow removal accounts is around 15-20. We do tons of mulching in the spring. Did a few hardscaping jobs this year (a few retaining walls, a walkway...).

John P.
11-30-2004, 06:57 PM
When are you done with school?, with those degrees sounds like you want to stay in the landscape business. What are your plans for out of school, just going Full time? And you said you do alot of mulching what tips do you have for a guy getting into the business with mulch jobs? what do you figure your cost per yard and time to install is?

11-30-2004, 09:27 PM
I will be done with school spring '09, my brother will be done spring '08.

Yes, we will be staying in the landscaping industry. Would like to run mainenance crews and do landscape installations. Maybe start a nursery or something. Not sure yet, but definately will be related to horticulture.

Most of our mulching jobs come from current customers. Do a good job and the word spreads. Time to install varies greatly. I can't really give a time because it depends on the installer(s), depth of mulch, access to beds, plants to go around etc. Look for a landscape supplier in your area for wholesale prices. Double shredded hardwood should be under $20. Much much cheaper if you get a bulk delivery (~90cy).

John P.
11-30-2004, 09:48 PM
What type of stuff do you do to do a good mulch job? Bulk mulch price is 90 cubic yards of mulch? and you buy that much where do you store it.

John P.
11-30-2004, 09:54 PM
GLS .................I had no idea your from Illinois, where abouts are you going to school? I'm from the land of Lincoln myself. You work with your brother?, how does that go I'm sure things can be pretty difficult sometimes.

11-30-2004, 09:57 PM
No, I meant if you get a load of ~90 cubic yards of mulch you can get it really cheap; if you have a place to put it and a means of loading it. We just get a contractors discount, have them load it.

Good mulch job -- don't cover plants with it, keep the desired level of depth, don't just throw it down-spread it, keep it off the pavement, don't pile it up around foundation. It seems like common sense, but I have seen a lot of crappy mulch jobs.

11-30-2004, 09:59 PM
We are going to school at western illinois university in Macomb.

We do have quite a few arguments, but we get along pretty good considering.

John P.
12-01-2004, 07:55 PM
Can i ask you where you had the decals done on the k2500 and what the cost was? Do you think that they have helped you get jobs? Have they ever worked against you with having your number and all on your truck in anyway?

12-01-2004, 08:26 PM
We had a local shop print them. We "designed" the layout and installed them ourselves. Still holding up great. I think the cost was $160, probably could have gotten them cheaper, we didn't shop around much.

I don't think people see the truck driving down the road and call. I think they see the truck parked at jobs and maybe write the number down then after they see what type of work we do. I think it also helps with recognizability, they see the truck over and over and the name sticks in their head. I think some people think we have a big fleet of trucks. I've had people say "I see your trucks all over the place", even though it's just the one.

There are times when we could do without the lettering, but we don't do much personal driving with it anymore (try to keep road rage to a minimum :D )

John P.
12-01-2004, 08:57 PM
Road Rage lol ...............thats exactly why i thought that in some cases i wouldn't't want them. So in a way you have seen some business come from them.............i bet that makes you feel good when they say they see your trucks everywhere.

12-01-2004, 09:12 PM
How do you like your Stihl FS85's? How do you like the edger attachment?

Thanks for answering all of your questions GLS. :)

12-01-2004, 11:46 PM
Ryan, you sure do love the green ,but I guess where you live you don,t have a whole lot of choice but to love the green. also I wonder how many of the guys out there will know why it has to do with where you live.

12-02-2004, 12:51 AM
ALarsh -- The stihls have been great (especially after switching to opti-2 2-cycle oil). The stick edger works great. Plenty of power, confortable to use, doesn't clog, doesn't throw mud on pant legs, etc. No problems with it at all. We even use it to edge beds in the spring prior to mulching. We will definately be sticking with stihl 2-cycle.

turftammer -- I think that deere makes some nice equipment. I also think there are a lot of other brands that make nice equipment too. A lot of the reason we buy deere is because of the dealer support though. We looked at some other brands prior to the ztr purchase but wern't happy with the dealers. So we went with the 757 and don't regret it (would buy another one again). There are quite of few guys running other machines (lots of exmark/toro, lesco, etc.). There probably are more guys running JD though since their world headquarters is in Moline. Both of my grandfathers worked for deere. I guess we got hooked on green when we bought the push mower because my grandpa gets an employee discount :) Doesn't apply to commercial equipment though :angry:

I'll throw in a pic of a mulching/edging job we did this spring. Stick edger works great for the curves.

John P.
12-02-2004, 06:39 PM
When you have mulch jobs do you automatically do the bed edging for them or do you charge for that? Do you have a typical rate at which you spread one cubic yard of mulch?

12-02-2004, 07:54 PM
Bed eding is done seperately. We let the customer choose (we recommend it but don't automatically do it). Yes, we charge by the cubic yard. We give a discount for larger jobs.

Lux Lawn
12-02-2004, 07:58 PM
Was there any edge there to start with or is that all from the Stick Edger?

John P.
12-02-2004, 11:38 PM
What type of exhuast system do you have on the K2500?

12-03-2004, 09:40 PM
We are going to school at western illinois university in Macomb.

We do have quite a few arguments, but we get along pretty good considering.

When i started out, i started with my younger bro, we argued all the time, he wanted to do jobs his way and vice versa! Makes me laugh how we used to argue in front of the customer sometimes, or he would tell me to go get his rake in front of the customer and vice versa, we did get along more than we argued, He does not work with me any more though, not because the arguing though, He was serious about it for the first 3 months then gave up so i bought him out for the half of the money he put in for equipment. that was almost 3 years ago and now he regrets it, he sees all the loochy that i make! Boy i tell you we had some funny days.The main thing you guys need to do is to try to stick together! Partnership with family can be tough! You guys have to much of nice equipment, and i hope you guys make a sh*t load of money

12-03-2004, 11:46 PM
Lux Lawn -- The edge was overgrown. We redefined the edge, but a lot of it was pure sod. We have used it to create edges though.

John P. -- it has a cat-back dual exhaust. Had an exhaust shop do the work. The exhaust was from the muffler and beyond was trash when we bought it.

We just bought a 5" exhaust for the duramax. We havn't put it on yet though.

All Lawns & Landcare -- that sounds a lot like us :D

John P.
12-05-2004, 01:32 PM
Are you licensed in the state of Illinois? I'm working in Illinois too and wanted to figure out how to become legit. Do you have insurance?

12-05-2004, 07:06 PM
My brother has a commercial pesticide applicators license in Illinois and Iowa. I will probably try to take the test sometime soon.

Our business isn't really licensed. We called the cities that we work in and they said it wasn't necessary. That was for lawn maintenance. We are beginning to do landscape installs (including hardscaping like retaining walls) which is probably like a contractor, so we might have to be licensed for that. I would make some calls because i'm not sure how exactly licensing works.

We are fully insured. It sucks to have to pay all that money but it is necessary. I would definately get insured if you arn't already. Also, don't forget about taxes payup

John P.
12-05-2004, 09:00 PM
Do you have an idea on how the insurance pricing works? Im tying to get just a basic insurance plan.

12-05-2004, 10:22 PM
There are a lot of factors involved. Differerent companies obviously have different rates. And it depends on how much you want to be insured for (500k/1mil liability, etc.) and what you want to be insured for. We have general liability insurance, commercial trucks insurance, etc. all in one plan.

I would find an insurance agent to talk to and have them give you a quote.

John P.
12-21-2004, 11:46 PM
GLS.........i read in an old post that you said you had rust problems in the k2500 due to the ez dump where on the truck is the rust and can you have a spray in bed liner done if you have a dump insert?

12-22-2004, 12:14 AM
dear John,

Not really a dear John letter but....

Yes you can have a spray in liner installed, You will want to remove the dump body first, then spray, then reinstall. Cost ~$500 or a little less, they will charge to remove the dumper if they have to do it, Probably $100 if they do it.

I had my liner installed prior to the dumper installed,

12-22-2004, 02:11 AM
I was probably talking about rust on the dumper itself. If I was talking about rust on the truck, it is very minimal (just around the bolt holes, nothing major). The dump insert, though, is getting quite a bit of rust.

You can have the bed sprayed. I would have done it if it was newer. I just don't want to put $500 - $600 in it. I don't think the dumper has too much life left in it anyway. We were thinking about putting a dumping flatbed on it someday.

I definately would have the bed sprayed if it was a newer truck with a new dump insert going in. We had our other truck sprayed with rhino. I would seriously consider spraying the insert with lining (smooth inside, rough outside) if it wasn't stainless steel or aluminum, and it wasn't too expensive. It would last forever then.

John P.
12-30-2004, 11:48 PM
GLS are you looking to sell that truck?

12-31-2004, 12:37 AM
Nope, they are both in service :)

01-01-2005, 06:06 PM
im sorry if it has already been posted, but what size is that trailer??

01-01-2005, 08:33 PM
It's a 6x12

John P.
01-01-2005, 08:49 PM
Did you get that a farm and fleet........how much weight have you Had on it? what did you pay for it?

01-01-2005, 09:16 PM
Yep, bought it at Farm & Fleet. I think the manufacturer is Barron Fabrication. Don't remember what we paid for it.

It is built pretty tough (square tubing for framing AND siderails as opposed to angle) but it has a lot of flaws...

Gate -- mesh isn't supported very well so we reinforced it. In the upright position, it leans forward a lot; we fixed that by adding a bracket to allow the tilt of the gate to be adjusted. The lip is c-channel which can make it hard to get equipment over it when slippery, it needs a piece of angle on the end.

Paint -- sucks. It is flaking off everywhere. It should be in mint condition because it is stored indoors while not in use and is kept pretty clean. Gonna have to repaint it black one of these days.

Added a lot of stuff to it also. Added another board to the floor to get rid of the gaps. Added sides to close it in. 6 HD D-rings. 2 sets of fastraps. Junglejim wheel chock for push mower. Trimmertrap, 2 jungle spracks, 2 bp blower racks. One of the most important things we've added was brakes. Spare tire. Replaced both packs of leaf springs after one broke w/out a load thankfully.

Don't haul a lot of material in the trailer other than mulch. We put ~5 cubic yards of double shredded mulch in it. Don't know what it weighs. If it was a tandem or had a higher capacity axle/tires, we would put taller sides on it for more mulch.

John P.
01-02-2005, 12:46 AM
How long have you been plowing for? Where you ever plowing when you where still in high school?

01-02-2005, 02:14 AM
This is my 3rd year plowing. The previous 2 seasons we only had 1 plow truck, this season we have 2.

2 years plowing while in high school. Skipped school if necessary. We didn't get many plowable events the last 2 seasons though, I didn't miss more than 2 days of school per semester.

John P.
01-02-2005, 04:05 PM
How often could you get the work done and not need to skip school, and did you parents support you in the idea of skipping classes?

01-02-2005, 04:30 PM
I had good attendance in high school. I never missed more than 2 days per semester.

It all depends when the snow comes. If a snowstorm ends by ~midnight then we could get all of our accounts cleared by morning.

My parents didn't care. I kept good attendance and a good GPA.

01-03-2005, 12:46 AM
Was wondering if you have been out plowing with your new duramax yet? If so how she run for ya? How do you like the Blizzard plow? What size and what was the cost on it?

01-03-2005, 02:46 AM
The duramax hasn't got to plow any snow yet. We have had zero plowable snowfalls this season. I hope we get something soon. I can't wait to try out the new blizzard.

It is the Blizzard 810...8'/10' plow -- each wing can hydraulically expand 12" to make the plow 10' wide.

Even though we havn't plowed with it yet, it is an awesome plow from what I can see.

$4,145 cash and carry.

01-03-2005, 02:47 AM
Forgot to attatch this one...

02-15-2005, 10:56 PM
How do you like that ezdumper? what does one run? any info is apprecieate.

02-15-2005, 11:10 PM
How do you like that ezdumper? what does one run? any info is apprecieate.

This topic has been brought up in the thread.

02-15-2005, 11:12 PM
GLS - can you comment on how the new truck plows now?

I gotta admit, she sure looks pretty. :)

02-16-2005, 12:10 PM
I think I talked about the ezdumper earlier, but it works great. They run about $2,000 (maybe a little more installed) for an 8' steel. I wouldn't be without some type of dump ever again. We would like to eventually put an aluminum flatbed dump on the chevy.

The new truck plows GREAT :) The plow can hold a ton of snow. The width of it and the ability to scoop the wings really speeds things up. And the diesel is great for pushing. We have some really steep driveways that we plow that a gasser would struggle to push up in 4hi. The diesel just lugs up it in 4hi with a big load of snow (unless it breaks traction, but we keep a lot of ballast in the back). I really have nothing bad to say about the new truck/plow, except the plow needs a shock absorber on it because when the moldboard trips that thing really bangs back hard.

John P.
08-11-2005, 01:49 AM
looking into buying a john deere walk behind what do you think of yours

08-12-2005, 03:44 PM
It cuts well and has been reliable. The bagger that JD sells kinda sucks, but we discharge most of the time. The 13 horse seems to have plenty of power.

I would prefer a hydro, but we don't use it enough to justify it.

Only other thing is the fixed deck. It works fine for us because we rarely change the cutting height. If you do you are going to want a floating deck.

Deere has some new walk behinds out too that come with the 7-iron deck (48" or 54" only).

John P.
08-13-2005, 12:33 AM
did you buy yours new? i looking for a used one and was wonder what problems people have had with them

09-26-2005, 09:49 PM
Not to jack you thread.

GLS. I aked you a million questions before buying my ez dumper. And if you Want to run a pickup with dump capabilities.. $2200 for the insert is great. I have it in an f250.

It will hold

5 yards of mulch.
6 yards of mulch mounded
3 yards of topsoil(overloaded)
2 yards for regular jobs
8 yards of leaves.. or so with covered wagon set up and leaf loader.
2 tons of stone. Yes, #57 3/4 blue is what we do gravel drives with. Such a breeze for regravel jobs.
3 tons of stone... whooops. weighed out at 14k, dident dump, had to hand load some, WONT DO IT AGAIN.

But for what most people haul, its great, we spend more time weighing in and out of the dump then we do unloading.

sometimes you need a f550, sometimes you dont.

09-26-2005, 10:31 PM
The insert is a great tool. One of these would make a nice addition to it for bigger landscaping jobs...

I know a lot of guys debate on dump insert vs. trailer. They are both good for certain things. The insert is nice to have with all the time, and of course if you are pulling a maintenance trailer with mowers. The trailer is great for the big loads.

09-26-2005, 10:51 PM
what length is that dump trailer?? width, carrying capacity?? That would be my next purchase

09-26-2005, 11:11 PM
14' x 6.5'

GVWR = 13,400 lbs

09-27-2005, 12:08 AM
how many yards of dirt does that trailer hold?

10-04-2005, 12:47 AM
hey GLS haven't seen you here in a long! On your blue truck do you have a back rack that holds your light? Ill be getting an ez- dumper dump insert and wondering if i can have a back rack on and and also have the ez dumper in the bed. can you get some pics of how you did yours? How do you like your dump trailer? how much $$ did you spend for, what are the pros and cons of having both?

10-04-2005, 05:23 PM
Not sure how much dirt it "can" hold. Volume wise, I think like 6 yards w/out sides. I have no idea how much weight that is though. It all depends on the type of dirt.

We've been really busy...havn't had much time to come here...
The trailer isn't ours, it was a rental. We used it for a hardscape job that required a lot of dirt to be moved out, no place to dump on site.
The warning light on the blue truck is actually just mounted to the roof (suction/magnet mount). It does have a cabguard/headache rack that it could be attatched to though. Would have to run a wire into the bed and through the rail of the dump.

10-04-2005, 10:14 PM
Hey GLS , What kinda Tires and wheels on that blue truck? Need new tired for my 00' K2500 and those look good.

10-05-2005, 06:38 PM
The wheels are the stock polished aluminum wheels on the new body style trucks. You can usually get them pretty cheap, look on ebay. I think they usually go for about $400/set.

The tires are goodyear mt/r's. The size in the more recent picture is a 285/75/r16, the old pics near the beginning of the thread are 265/75/r16 (the 285s were on the black truck, but it got bigger wheels and tires and we switched them over to the blue truck).

The mt/r's are a good looking tire, and probably a good mud tire, but I don't think we'll be buying them anymore. They just don't last long enough.

steve's total lawn care
12-22-2005, 11:45 PM
Hey i have that same stihl blower and hedge trimmer very nice equipent Stihl manufactures very good equipment ive had mine going on 1 year now since purchase.

12-23-2005, 09:49 AM
How many miles did you buy the Duramax with? How many miles do you have on it now?

How much did you pay?
Any problems?


12-23-2005, 03:42 PM
Bought it with around 50k miles (I think). It currently is at 100k (almost).

Paid $30k

Problems: injectors replaced at 75k miles. Covered under the 200k mile warranty. Other than that, problem free.

12-23-2005, 03:53 PM
I havn't posted any new equipment pics yet.

Here is our new trailer, bought it last October.

12-23-2005, 03:55 PM
Here is our leaf loading rig. Lesco 16hp loader w/ swing mount.

12-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Bought it with around 50k miles (I think). It currently is at 100k (almost).

Paid $30k

Problems: injectors replaced at 75k miles. Covered under the 200k mile warranty. Other than that, problem free.

GLS - how much was that 200k warranty and from whom did u buy it from?

ever get any problems with trying to get things fixed by the warranty company?

12-24-2005, 02:26 AM
Actually, the 200k mile warranty is for fuel injectors only.

GM extended the warranty on 01-02 duramax diesel engines to 200k miles for fuel injectors only. The engine is covered for 100k, and the rest is just the 36k. I guess GM extended the warranty because they knew fuel injectors were an issue.

12-24-2005, 11:57 PM
Very, very, very nice equipment all the way around! How does the duramax plow with the full crew cab? I wanna replace my 01 Dodge with a crew cab diesel (either Ford or Chevy) and have that as my personal truck but not sure about hanging a plow and spreader on a crewcab doing residential drives....:confused: :confused:

12-26-2005, 02:10 AM
Wow, I'm impressed. You have alot of nice equipment, and I really like the leaf setup you have. I want to put something like that on my truck.

12-26-2005, 01:26 PM
Thanks for all of the comments.

The crew cab can make plowing resi's a bit difficult, but it's not too bad. The width of the plow makes it easy, but it is a pain to get turned around. It does real good on commercial lots. We use our other truck for the real tight drives.

12-26-2005, 11:08 PM
WOW, very nice equipment. Sometime, I would like to have a Deere ZTR. Thanks for the pictures.

12-27-2005, 01:50 AM
Hey GLS always loved your set-up now thing just got even better with the enclosed.

12-29-2005, 10:31 AM
can any body tell me how i ned ot start my buisness out i need help

12-29-2005, 09:12 PM
can any body tell me how i ned ot start my buisness out i need help


Welcome to lawn site.. .. start a new thread.. here http://www.lawnsite.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

The just starting in business thread... and search the forum till your hearts desire. there is alot of info here.


01-22-2006, 08:38 PM
Hey GLS,

Great Setup! Love the green machines. Hey I Was wondering if u still had ur 6x12 trailer? I May be interested in buying it. Would love to hear back from u!

5x10 Carry On Trailer w/racks
Craftsman 22.5hp 50in deck w/plow,weights,and chains
(parents but get to start using it in 06) Toro Z150 52in deck 20hp Kohler
6.5hp Craftsman Bagger Mower
STIHL FS55RC Trimmer
STIHL BG55 Blower
STIHL FC44 Edger

Toro,STIHL,Chevy,and Carry On
Can I Say Anymore?:gunsfirin

zim bob the landscaper
01-22-2006, 09:34 PM
wow thats some awesome equipment i see u use the ez-dumper a lot they look awesome i like the blizzard i want one but my dad says there junk for his reasons, i like them but there still not as good as the fishers IMO.

01-23-2006, 12:16 PM
Thanks guys

We would sell it for $950. That includes brand new tires and brand new brakes, the aluminum tongue box, 6 heavy duty recessed D-rings, and treated plywood sides. It does not include any of the racks we had on the trailer.

We are either going to keep it for mulch, or sell it for $950 and get a larger equipment trailer.

It is in fairly good condition. All of the lights work, I don't think there are any dents. There is some a little bit of rust, mainly on the fenders.

Let me know if you are interested.

01-23-2006, 06:15 PM
Hey Gls I Might Be Interested!

Thanks For Replying!

03-06-2006, 02:21 PM
Hey I love looking at ur setup. I like how ur trailer is arranged. U got any new pics of everything setup in the enclosed? Havent had baraley any snow this season Dec. started off good but now theres nothing. Would love to see new pics. Thanks!:walking:

03-06-2006, 07:22 PM
Thanks. I just took some pictures of the inside of the new trailer last Saturday. I'll post them tonight or tomorrow if I remember.

Yeah, this winter has been kinda crappy. We did get 2" Saturday night-Sunday though. They were calling for maybe mixed precip but mostly rain. It ended up mostly as all snow. We wern't ready for it, but it was nice to make a little extra cash before spring.

03-06-2006, 09:43 PM
Yea we didnt get but ice and mix here the drive cound'nt even we plowed so i didnt make anything but saturday i started advertising im looking into getting 10-14 weekly accounts though i am in school so gotta keep it small then this summer i'll try to add more and i would really like to get into mulch this season i love doing mulch. Hey thanks for the quick replys! -Mitch-

03-06-2006, 10:09 PM
That last picture you posted in the parking lot looks very sharp, props....

03-06-2006, 11:21 PM
Here are the pictures:

First one is with blue truck, ez-dump is removed for winter.


#1 - View from back


#2 - Trimmer rack, the deere on the top will be replaced with another stihl trimmer this year


#3 - Green touch BP blower racks, pole pruner above


#4 - Custom hedge trimmer "sheath", hand tools hanging on some long u-hooks from lowes


03-06-2006, 11:26 PM
Looks great! Nicely organized!

03-06-2006, 11:27 PM
And the rest:

#5 - Custom workbench and cabinet (forgot to take inside pics of cabinet), Kobalt tool chest; WB, push mower, and spreader fit under workbench.


#6 - First aid kit (came w/ trailer), fire ext., light switch, trash can, rakes on another u-hook, JungleJim BP sprayer racks (sprayers are in heated area right now)


#7 - Door storage. Holds tarps, peltors, and the gutter tubes


#8 - Another view of the drivers side wall.


There is a lot of additional room when the bagger for the ZTR is removed.

03-06-2006, 11:40 PM
im brad im 16 and own and run brads lawn care i currently mow 9 lawns well get back to me soon tttul brad

03-06-2006, 11:41 PM
: im brad im 16 and own and run brads lawn care i currently mow 9 lawns well get back to me soon tttul brad

03-07-2006, 07:31 PM
VERY NICE & organized! Thanks for the pics. Hey what happened to the lettering on the Chevy that was like the coolest lettering ive ever seen! Are you gonna get the trailer lettered that would be sweet! -Mitch-

03-08-2006, 12:57 AM
We took the lettering off of the chevy last fall...both of the trucks are also our personal trucks. It was just a little too showy for me.

Nothing is lettered right now because we are not really looking for much additional business right now. My brother and I are both in college. When we finish, we plan to letter things up again and come up with a new name...hopefully do more landscaping than maintanence.

03-09-2006, 09:27 AM
Now after thinking about that it makes great sense. I am 7th grade and when spring comes around man am i busy bc i normally mow on weekends but some times i have to mow after school and it can b hard. Thanks 4 the reply!

04-12-2006, 05:53 AM

Great equipment, great setup, great everything.

I was wondering how you liked your 36" GS30 Walk Behind. I am getting ready to buy a very lightly used (30 hrs. or less) 1999 from the dealer and was wondering if you had any problems with yours or just advice in general.

Thanks - From a fellow college student / busy LCO.

04-14-2006, 09:47 AM
I think the GS30 is great for the price. It cuts good and has been reliable.

A hyrdo would be nicer, as would a floating deck/easier way to adjust deck height; but that of course costs more.

We would like to get a wright stander this year, probably a 48" floater. Keep the 36 for gated lawns.

To sum it up, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the slightly used gs30.

12-16-2006, 10:57 PM
Just purchased a new dump trailer. 81" x 14', 14k GVW (7k axles), 10k jack, 10-ton hoist, 3in1 gate. Still have to mount the tarp roller and build some sides for it. We'll be making a leaf box for it and mounting the leafloader before next fall.

On edit -- just noticed in the pics that the jack wasn't all the way up, it doesn't usually hang down that low.




Purchased earlier this year are the Wright 36" stander and the Lesco 50-gal sprayer...



12-16-2006, 11:06 PM
Awesome!!! That stuff is so cool. Nice weather were having here was in the 60's today. -Mitch-

12-17-2006, 12:29 AM
Beautiful stuff.

RedMax Man
12-17-2006, 11:05 AM
Nice Equipment. It looks like business must be going well. Keep up the good work.

Lawn Enforcer
12-17-2006, 04:46 PM
Very nice equipment, and good luck to your business! How much did you pay for the stander, and how do you like it?

12-17-2006, 10:40 PM
GLS, I noticed in your signature that you had a STIHL FS85 as well as a FS110RX. I was looking into purchasing one of these and have a few questions that I thought you might be able to help me out with...

1. how does the flex cable drive do on the FS-85 compared to the solid drive on the FS110RX? Any noticeable difference?
2. Does the FS85 seem to have enough power for everyday maint?

I would really like to purchase the FS85 because I just don't care for the 4-MIX trimmers. Let me know what your take is.

-Chris Dagenais
Wheaton Landscape Specialists

12-18-2006, 03:27 PM
GLS just wondering how you like the change from a open trailer to a enclosed trailer? i am in the same spot that you were in i have a 12 foot open and think i want to upgrade but dont think i want a open becuase i dont want to have to put the equipment in the shed every night.
1- do you think a 16 foot would be enough room for 2 John Derre ZTR?
2- what is the gas mileage with that enclosed?
3- is it hard on the blue chevy to pull that enclosed?

12-18-2006, 05:52 PM
Nice stuff, my question is about the pro wings on your plow. Do they add any extra stress to the king pin and cylinders? Also how were they to install?

12-18-2006, 07:35 PM
Hey scottsQLS I would like to look at/buy your trailer you have for sale,.

12-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Thanks for the comments.

The Wright stander was around $4500 if I remember correctly. We love using it. It cuts great and it is very comfortable to use. I would recommend one to anybody. The only reason I would consider another walkbehind is if I had steep inclines to mow.

The fs85 actually has the solid shaft, I think it was the fs80 that had the flex in it. So I couldn't tell you what the difference is. I believe that there is a lifetime warranty on both types though.

The fs85 definately has plenty of power for normal use. We have several accounts that include trimming weeds/tall grass on steep slopes/ravines every month or every other month and it has ample power for that also. The 110 I do like better though. It is slightly heavier, but it has a lot more power, especially at the bottom end.

I am very pleased with the transition from an open to enclosed trailer. It is really nice to have everything inside and the ability to lock it up. The walls add so much room for miscellaneous tools. And best of all no unloading equipment at the end of the day.

I would think a 16' would hold 2 z's, just depends on what else you want to fit in there. Our trailer holds everything, but I wouldn't mind an extra 2' for stuff we don't always carry like spreader, fert, etc.

I really don't know what the fuel mileage with the enclosed is. It's all city driving for us and all I know is the mileage sucks. Enclosed doesn't really make a difference for us, it doesn't see the highway that often.

The blue truck pulls the enclosed fine. It is a bit sluggish going up hills but it does a descent job. The duramax tows it like nothing is back there.

The prowings don't seem to put any extra stress on the plow parts, at least I haven't seen any negative effects. They were fairly simple to install, a little tricky to get everything lined up. I do recommend replacing the rubber edge that comes with it with a polyurethane edge. It will hold up better. Wings are a great addition to a straight blade if you have to move the snow (rather than windrow) or want some extra width.

12-18-2006, 10:50 PM
Hey I was wondering why you bought the Toro Proline? Did u trade the JX 75 in? Also What do u guys have planned in terms of buying next year? Thanks! -Mitch-

12-18-2006, 11:26 PM
The JX75 was getting old and we were replacing a lot of parts. We also were looking for a better mulching mower (the proline mulches A LOT better than the jx75). We kept the jx75 as a backup mower. There were many times a backup mower would have been nice when the jx75 was the primary--cables broke, belt loose, etc..

Not sure what we'll buy next year. Hopefully we'll have a good winter to pay off some loans. Might be looking into a dingo next year. We'll just have to see how the season goes.

12-19-2006, 12:04 AM
The JX75 was getting old and we were replacing a lot of parts. We also were looking for a better mulching mower (the proline mulches A LOT better than the jx75). We kept the jx75 as a backup mower. There were many times a backup mower would have been nice when the jx75 was the primary--cables broke, belt loose, etc..

Not sure what we'll buy next year. Hopefully we'll have a good winter to pay off some loans. Might be looking into a dingo next year. We'll just have to see how the season goes.

Did you ever have problems with the transmission on your JX75? Mine is just about done for. I know mine will have to be fixed before next season.

12-19-2006, 12:29 AM
We have had to replace many cables and belts throughout the years (and maybe the plastic gears on the wheels, but not sure), but the transmission never gave up. It has gotten weak over the years though.

J&R Landscaping
12-19-2006, 05:41 PM
Set-up looks awsome. Very impressive and the trailer looks to be very well organized!

12-21-2006, 03:49 PM
WOW really like your set up. How does the bagger for the Z work? I just bought a 757 and am trying to get one used. Would you recommend the JX75 i really like it and am finally going to get it in the spring but i saw you said you had some problems with it.

Thanks Nick

12-21-2006, 11:48 PM
The bagger isn't bad. I would look for a 3-bin if I were you. Our 2-bin makes for more frequent dumping. One thing I do like about it is the rather easy on/off. We can carry the pieces (hopper, bags, power-flow unit, and the chute) in the trailer and have it installed under 2 minutes.

The jx75 has actually been a pretty good mower. We used it a lot and it still works fine. My complaints would be the cheap wheels. The plastic never broke, but the tread would wear off and we had to replace the rear wheels each season. Like I said earler, we replaced cables a lot. We also bent the crankshaft from the blade hitting a water valve thing--that was pricy, I think around $300. And the handle had a lot of flex to it, the holes where it attatched to the deck wore out and became oblong.

It was good at bagging and had no trouble discharging (obviously), but it did not mulch very well. Our new toro mulches excellent, and the honda is a lot better motor than the kawasaki in my opinion. It seems to have a lot more power. The toro weighs a lot more though and was a lot pricier.

Of course the new jx75's are completely different, so what I have to say about mine probably doesn't apply.

12-22-2006, 12:02 AM
Well thanks for the advice. An i'm lookin at the 2 bin bagger. I think when i get the money i'll get the jx75. thanks for answering


12-22-2006, 12:23 AM
Well thanks for the advice. An i'm lookin at the 2 bin bagger. I think when i get the money i'll get the jx75. thanks for answering


Don't buy the 2 bin bagger. Spend the extra and get the new vertical MCS 7 Iron blower and the 3 bin bagger or with the DFS hopper. The new blower is all steel. Well worth the money. The 2 bin only hold 9 bushel and the 3 bin holds 14 bushel. I have both and the 2 bin sucks.

12-22-2006, 12:46 AM
Ryan are you looking to upgrade ur STIHL FS 85 and STIHL FC 85 anytime soon. If you are get the 110 edger its a freakin beast i dont know why i didnt buy it sooner. -Mitch-

12-22-2006, 01:02 AM

How do you like your 95 2500hd? I love the look of it.

What engine?
Any major problems?

12-22-2006, 10:49 AM
Don't buy the 2 bin bagger. Spend the extra and get the new vertical MCS 7 Iron blower and the 3 bin bagger or with the DFS hopper. The new blower is all steel. Well worth the money. The 2 bin only hold 9 bushel and the 3 bin holds 14 bushel. I have both and the 2 bin sucks.

I guess that would be better b/c the others were plastic. Thanks for the advice.

12-22-2006, 02:35 PM
DLCS - how do you like the DFS hopper? THe new system looks nice, but I don't really want to spend the money to upgrade. Our current powerflow vibrates like heck, might be time to replace. I'm not sure if i'd like the new hopper design though, it's nice to be able to remove the bins and dump straight into the truck. When you need to haul the debris away, do you dump onto a tarp and then load in truck? I guess if you were using it just for leaves it would be fine (leaf loader) or could dump on site.

Dream - we plan to keep running the fs85 and the fc85. I do love our new 110 trimmer. The motor would be great on an edger, I know when establishing a new edge the fc85 could use more power. I'd imagine your fc110 eats right through.

stuffdeer - Thanks. It has been a really good work truck for us. It's got the 350 gasser and auto tranny. I wouldn't mind some extra power out of it, but it hasn't had any major problems. It eats a little oil (maybe 1qt every 3k miles).

12-22-2006, 02:37 PM
I almost forgot, we extended the chute on the leaf loader just before leaf season. It works much better now. Before the leaves loaded to the top but they didn't compress very well. Now they pack tight all the way to the top.

12-22-2006, 03:05 PM
Man i love the look of leaf loaders. Do u guys normally just blow the leaves into the pile then load them or do u grind then and then load them. I didnt have a catcher this year but i had the back pack blower and we just tarped but grinding and bagger seemed to work faster after i got the JD Wb. -Mitch-

12-22-2006, 03:48 PM
We usually just blow them all into a pile or along the street and suck them up. It seems to be the quickest and cleanest way for us.

12-22-2006, 11:13 PM

I ended up buying the 3 bag unit with the new style horizontal blower. The 3 bag holds more bushels than the dump from seat unit. I mostly throw the bags in a pick up truck, when I do bag, so the bag model actually works better for me. The new blower is leaps and bounds better than the old one, its actually a commercial unit. My old 2 bag unit is going to get fitted to my 647 stander this winter.:)

12-23-2006, 08:28 PM
We'll have to look into the new system. A stander with a real bagging system would be great, the side catchers are a joke.

02-01-2007, 06:23 PM
if you dont mind me asking GLS, what did you pay for those wheels on the truck? I want to put a set of those billet 2500HD wheels on my 97 k2500 this spring.


02-01-2007, 08:31 PM
I honestly don't remember what I paid for them, it was a long time ago. But they came from eBay. I would guess I paid around $300-$400, including caps and lug nuts.

02-02-2007, 10:37 AM
GLS- The trailer looks great, thats how i have my blowers and trimmers arranged also. Just wondering what you keep inside the cabinets and if you ever have any problems with the cobaly moving aroun. I'm guessing not since you still have it there. Also, just curious where you keep your gas cans. I have a 2.5 and a 5 gallon rack. They work great. Anyway everything looks great and keep up the good work.

02-02-2007, 10:41 AM
sorry i mean the kobalt toolbox

02-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Stuff inside the cabinets include: 2-cycle mix, paper towels, spare parts, cans of lubricating oil/belt dressing/etc. The other cabinet has chemicals.

We have some screws through the bottom of the tool chest just in case it decides to move. I would hate to see that heavy thing fall off the shelf in an accident or something.

We have 2 metal 5gal gas cans in the back corner that fit very well behind the wheel wells. Right now there is just a bunjee to keep them in place, so we might build a bracket or something for them. Then there is a plastic 5gal 2cycle mix near the front that we also might build a braket for.

Young Lawn Boy
02-04-2007, 10:59 PM
hey GLS...did you bolt that tool box on your trailer or weld it? i want to get one for mine and dunno what to do.

02-05-2007, 12:49 AM
If you mean the diamond plate tongue box on our old red trailer, we used some self-tapping screws. It seemed to be plenty strong, my brother jack-knifed the trailer one time and the truck bumper put a nice dent/bend to the box and the screws stayed intact. I'm sure there are better ways to attatch it, but screws are probably the easiest way.

Young Lawn Boy
02-05-2007, 08:02 PM
ya i was wonder about jack-knifing...can you turn that sharp? do you have any trouble with turning on kulvasacks?(or however you spell it lol)

02-05-2007, 08:41 PM
We were still able to turn sharp enough for anything. The box didn't stick out much farther than the tongue of the trailer...if the box hadn't been there, the truck probably would have jackknifed into the trailer tongue itself.

No problems on culdesacs.

Young Lawn Boy
02-05-2007, 11:09 PM
k thanks for the response

04-29-2007, 10:45 AM
Your stuff is so nice! After using the enclosed trailer for a while, do you think its now a major part of your equipment or its just a good part? I mean, Would you recommand it for anyone?

04-29-2007, 02:30 PM
Just curious, how many mowing accounts are you guys up to?

04-29-2007, 05:15 PM
Thanks. It would be hard for me to go back to an open trailer. The enclosed just has so many benefits for us. I would recommend an enclosed to anyone.

We have roughly 45 accounts, including residential and commercial from small to large.

04-29-2007, 05:44 PM
Where do you park your trailers/trucks and how much does it cost? I am starting to go through growing pains of too much equipment and not enough storage space in the garage.

What are you guys planing next for equipment wise? Are you going to get skid/tractor for work or whats the next step?

Just curious. Thanks!

04-29-2007, 05:59 PM
Our mowing trailer and trucks stay at home during the mowing season (parking area next to garage). The dump trailer also stays at home when in use. Equipment gets parked in a pole barn about 20 miles away when not in use (Grandfather's farm). We need to find somewhere closeby to park stuff. Hopefully we will buy some land within a few years. My brother graduates college at the end of this year and I will follow in December of '08. We will be able to expand our business then.

We don't have any equipment purchases planned in the near future. We would like to replace our older truck sometime. Not sure if we want another diesel pickup or a small dump truck. A dingo would also be a nice addition for our landscaping jobs. But we have no plans to buy anything soon.

09-16-2007, 10:24 PM
Any updates? How is it going?

09-16-2007, 10:52 PM
I know that this is an old post but I was wondering how you liked the bagger on the 757? I was looking at getting one for my deere. Does it do a good job collecting leaves? Does it clog or get bogged down alot? Any info that you have would be greatly appreciated.


09-17-2007, 12:27 AM
We've been really busy the last month or so now that school is back in. My brother will be graduating in December though:clapping:

We have a lot of little projects that need to get done. Our small storage shed needs rebuilt (a big white oak fell on it), we have some repair to do to the ezdumper, we need to build a leaf box for the dump trailer, we have some snow preparations to do, we started our aerations (bearing in the gear reduction box went out, waiting for that to get repaired), we've been bidding on snow removal jobs, and the list goes on:dizzy: Sorry for the rant

We fabbed a mount for the leaf loader that attatches to the rear gate. We just have to build the box for it now. I will upload some pics of that when it's done.

We don't use the bagger on our 757 much anymore. I believe the baggers are designed differently now, the blower I know is completely different. So what I have to say probably doesn't apply. We havn't used it at all this year, we might put it on this fall for a few lawns.

It picks up the leaves alright, we have to go one direction (no stripes) due to blowout on the discharge side. It doesn't really bog or clog much. I personally probably wouldn't buy one again just because we don't have much use for it, we never bag lawns and if there are just a few leaves we mulch them. When the leaves start piling up we blow them and use the leaf loader.

Supper Grassy
09-17-2007, 03:58 PM
Nice set up

09-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Ya thats a really nice setup I really like the truck!

09-18-2007, 04:29 PM
What happened to the ezdumper?

09-18-2007, 10:34 PM
The ezdumper has some good rust action going on. We just need to make some welds and maybe a few patches to keep it together!

09-18-2007, 11:19 PM
How much did you pay for the enclosed trailer?

09-19-2007, 12:47 AM
I believe it was around $6,000

Dunlaps LawnCare
09-19-2007, 10:18 PM
verry nice seat up

10-28-2007, 11:54 AM
I finally have pics of the leaf box and vacuum on the dump trailer.

The box is constructed of 2x6 green treated boards. The leaf loader basically hangs off of one of the gates and swings away with the gate.

10-28-2007, 11:55 AM
A few more...

10-28-2007, 04:03 PM
That's a very nice leaf box.

10-28-2007, 04:25 PM
You did a really nice job on fabricating that GLS. Looks very professional and should last you a really long time. Any idea what a trailer like that weighs with all the boards, hardware, vac, ect?

10-28-2007, 05:43 PM
Looks really nice. You did a great job making that! Great setup.

RedMax Man
10-28-2007, 07:05 PM
Nice leaf trailer rig Ryan.
I have an ez dumper with a leaf box and 16 hp loader also. But i want to be able to pull the trailer also. Only way i can think of is mounting the loader on the tailgate and having to take it off every time i unload. I saw that setup you had on the blue Chevy but you used the swing away kit which can't also pull a trailer.


10-29-2007, 04:19 PM
Thanks for the compliments.

I don't really know what the entire trailer weights with all of the add-ons. The trailer itself is around 5k I believe (it's a heavy one). I really don't know what the rest of it weighs. I don't believe the leaves will exceed any weight we have hauled before as leaves are light, even in high quantities.

10-30-2007, 01:03 AM
Hi Ryan - Just curious, do you and your brother both own that house or is that your parents house? How far do you guys travel to school and do you live on campus (I assume not with that house?)? How diffcuilt do you find it running the business while in school?


10-30-2007, 09:32 PM
how do you like the deeres, preferbly the 21 and the mid size walk behind

10-31-2007, 12:27 AM
That is our parents house. Hopefully we will be looking for a house with some land in the near future. We travel 150 miles / 1.25 hours each way. We usually have at least one day off per week and only go in the mornings or afternoons. It can be stressful at times to have to deal with school and work at the same time, but we get r dun. My brother is done in December and I will be done one year from then. That will free up a lot of time and hopefully we can expand our business when that time comes. So far I do not regret my decision to go to school, I feel that I have learned a lot. It would be nice to not have to travel so far though.

We actually do not use the 21" deere currently, we upgraded to a toro proline. The deere 21 was a good machine though; it held up fairly well and left a nice cut. It bags well but our new toro mulches a lot better (which we do 95% of the time).

The JD walkbehind has been a good machine as well. For the price I think it is a great mower. We have pretty much retired it to be a hill mower...it can handle hills that our other mowers can't.

10-31-2007, 09:27 AM
Do you commute back and forth everyday? Do you take the duramax each trip or do you have a little commuter car? Reason I ask is I am going away to school (45 min one way) and am trying to decide what I should do with the business.

Thanks for the response.

10-31-2007, 05:17 PM
We do commute back and forth every day we have class. We try to have at least one day off per week, this semester I have two days off.

We normally drive a '96 buick regal (gets about 26mpg, and has well over 200k miles, I think it is around 250k?). However, our schedules are different this semester so we have to drive the duramax 3 days each week right now.

We decided to keep the business running to keep some income rolling in, but more importantly so the business would have a head start when we are finished with school. This way we did not lose any clients, but rather have been aqcuiring new clients each year. Now when we are ready to go full time we will have a list of clients ready to go. Much better than starting from scratch in my opinion.

Good luck with your decision

02-07-2008, 10:33 PM
ryan,the equipment looks great!i have a 1995 chevy k2500 reg.cab 4wd 350 auto,same rims,same color,aluminum truck craft insert,western 8ft pro plus plow.my truck has 156,000 miles on it now,keep thinking of trading it in,but it is still running when my 2 2006 chevys are in the shop.keep up the good work and hang on to that 1995 2500. -mike

02-07-2008, 10:50 PM

This winter has been awesome, and I'm sure you guys are rolling in the cash! :cool2:

But how are your trucks holding up? What's your account set up like (commercial/residential)?

Is it still just you and your brother? Thats awesome how you guys were able to run the partnership, I tried it and well it didn't work out too well. :nono:

When your working, do you normally split up and each take a truck and one goes and does lawn maintenance, and one does fert./landscape maintenance, etc?

Maybe when I get my license, we could meet up somewhere and have lunch.



02-08-2008, 01:39 AM
looks good i like the well cargo same trailer im now looking into same size also... and the wright stander good mower love mine..

you have anymore pic's of the trailer?

02-09-2008, 12:43 AM
Mike - sounds like we have the same truck other than the insert and plow! It has been such a good truck to us, I hate to get rid of it. I don't know if we'll do this or not, but I would like to purchase a third truck so we have a backup truck, especially for plowing. I know what you mean about newer vehicles breaking down also!

Mitch - this has been a great winter! I wish I was done with school, it's been hectic. But the cash flow is great.

Trucks have been good. The 4x4 actuator on our old truck went out this past storm, but we were able to get the part.

We have several small offices, 4 big condos, and a couple apartment lots. The rest are residential of various sizes. We almost have too much for two trucks right now, we need to hire someone to run another truck with just a blower...that would bring our route times way down.

For snow we split up. Lawn maintenance we usually stick together, but it varies a lot. Sometimes one of us goes to get a load of materials (mulch, soil, block, etc). And some days we do split up, it just depends on the schedule.

I'm not sure which pictures I have posted of the trailer, but i'll add these...

02-09-2008, 12:50 AM
I don't think i've posted any pics of the newer blizzard snowplow? So here are a few.

pic 1: both trucks.

pic 2: blue truck waiting for snow

pics 3: two pallets of deicer; the rear air bags really keep the back up.

02-09-2008, 01:04 AM
Ryan - Looks great with that new blizzard. Are your plowing accounts charged on a per plow basis? What does your insurance costs run per year doing those condos?

Your stuff looks great like usual.

02-09-2008, 01:32 AM
GLS, what air bags do you have in the back? I assume the weight is 100% on the airbags and not on the suspension since the leafs are maxed out.

Those are really nice trucks though, they match real well. I can't to paint my old chevy to get it looking modern.

02-09-2008, 01:57 AM
trailer really looks nice if you dont mind me asking how much did you pay?