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PrecisionLandService
01-13-2004, 04:22 PM
Whats the trick to getting a nice looking angle pattern going on a lawn....... If u dont get the right angles it doesnt look as nice... Also, is there any ways to make the cut patttern stand out more?

rodfather
01-13-2004, 04:43 PM
To begin with, it helps to have a nice lawn (thick and lush).

Another issue is type of grass. Some grasses stripe better than others. I might be wrong, but I think cool season grasses (Kentucky Blue, Fescues, etc.) stripe better than a Warm Season grass like St. Augustine or Bermuda.

Next issue is the size of the prop and how it's shaped.

Lastly, as for patterns, either run at 180, 90, or 45 degree mowing pattern to get the results you like best.

pjslawncare/landscap
01-13-2004, 05:38 PM
Not sure the angle, but this is what I do. This is tall fescue/Kentucky blue grass mix (Cool season)

rodfather
01-13-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by pjslawncare/landscap
Not sure the angle, but this is what I do. This is tall fescue/Kentucky blue grass mix (Cool season)


Prop like that pj looks nice with a 45 pattern on it...real nice if ya wanna double back the opposite way too a second time.

pjslawncare/landscap
01-13-2004, 05:56 PM
We alternate weekly if yard enables us too. Some are sloped so bad we must go side to side only.

rodfather
01-13-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by pjslawncare/landscap
Some are sloped so bad we must go side to side only.


Slopes in Indiana PJ? Hell I thought Indiana was like Kansas...LOL...J/K too

Hamons
01-13-2004, 06:05 PM
What's wrong with Kansas rodfather?

rodfather
01-13-2004, 06:11 PM
Nothing...just flat for the most part. It was just a joke btw. In fact, you have one of the greatest R&R bands of all time to come from where you live in Overland Park...Kansas.

Damn do I miss them (they might be a little head of your time though).

MikeLT1Z28
01-13-2004, 06:26 PM
like their song, they are dust in the wind ;) ok, boo me now, that was bad!

rodfather
01-13-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by MikeLT1Z28
like their song, they are dust in the wind ;) ok, boo me now, that was bad!


Really...btw, don't give up your day job...LOL

Wells
01-13-2004, 06:57 PM
Angled Striping

Expert Lawns
01-13-2004, 07:18 PM
different direction each week. yes, i stripe, but by my next visit, sometimes they have disappeared

Expert Lawns
01-13-2004, 07:19 PM
sometimes they haven't. oops, got these pics backwards. oh well, you get the ''picture''

pjslawncare/landscap
01-13-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by rodfather
Slopes in Indiana PJ? Hell I thought Indiana was like Kansas...LOL...J/K too
Oh yea, by the Ohio river here, there are some pritty good slopes. I have one that is 2 acres back area and all sloped heavily. My equipment purchases are geared for this type of mowing (walk behinds).

Royalslover
01-13-2004, 10:52 PM
I guess I've been mowing too long and getting too bored. Last year I started mowing in circles and following curved sidewalks and such. My customers love it and it's different from every other yard in town. Hamons, Do you mow in deer Creek at all?

Chris Wagner
01-14-2004, 03:48 AM
Like this?

Chris Wagner
01-14-2004, 03:49 AM
Or this?

Team Gopher
01-14-2004, 07:54 AM
WOW Chris,

You are a true artist! Amazing!

bigshoe
01-14-2004, 10:50 AM
Wow Chris, those stripes look nice

Razorblade
01-14-2004, 11:40 AM
Chris, Those stripes are pimp! What kind of equipment are you laying those down with?

Chris Wagner
01-14-2004, 01:47 PM
Thank you for the sincere compliments, guys.

I took these two years ago of our work at our Church where I'm director of grounds. Yes, I cut the pattern and shot the pics. The second pic is taken from atop the Church.

Of course we're always on a limited budget, but both pics were cut with a John Deere LT155. No special attachments.

Here's a different angle of the first one... I like how the trees are just changing colors.

Chris Wagner
01-14-2004, 01:50 PM
Oh yeah, up until last year when we spent about $45,000 on a an irrigation system, we just relied on Mother Nature... I think the year those pics were taken we had some nice rainfall.

Kelly & Sons
01-14-2004, 02:29 PM
Looks very nice! Good Job! I get my walker on Friday... I cannot wait to start practicing the "striping"

PrecisionLandService
01-14-2004, 07:46 PM
Chris .. nice work.... Those lines are really sharp !!! whats your trick

maal
01-14-2004, 08:53 PM
WOW

Your pride really shows o those lawns.

GTLC
01-14-2004, 09:03 PM
I think we need to talk to David Mellor!

Sauls1686
01-14-2004, 09:32 PM
Chris,

Do the curbs help u out at all on lawns like that? I think they help me, im not good enough to do it with out some guideline.

Mickhippy
01-14-2004, 10:21 PM
And done on a $3000 tractor with no attachments. hehe Go figure!

Chris Wagner
01-14-2004, 11:19 PM
LOL, Mickhippy... it can be done. Right deck pitch, high lift blades, sharp blades.

But, I think it you spent 40 hours/week on a 10 acre property, you could get it to look real good too. You guys who work different properties all the time have so many different variables to work with. I'm working with the same property the entire time... and although it changes, the curves and tendencies are generally the same.

To Sauls... yes, curbing helps. There's a sidewalk there now, so we'll see how that works this next year.

My trick isn't really anything new. I've learned a lot of what David Mellor teaches on my own... as well as tricks from his book. The basic way I work is to lay the first pattern you want... say an east to west. Cut that same direction a few times to really get the grass to lay down. Then come back and mow an alternate direction... say north to south. Your old stripes should be really bold and your new ones will stand out as they are fresh. Now, you can alternate those two directions... one cut east to west, the next north to south.

Of course, if we used a roller or other techniques, we might be able to cut out a few steps.

Chris Wagner
01-14-2004, 11:28 PM
This was taken this last Spring.

chefdrp
01-15-2004, 11:31 PM
this was this past fall.

LawnMower
01-16-2004, 10:14 AM
My BobCat ZTR tripes great. It even stripes better when I have the Protero grass catcher on it.

I go one direction one week, then another the next week.

bigamp
01-17-2004, 10:09 PM
New to the biz and love the striping. I haven' t seen any of that here in NE Florida. How did you learn that and how do you charge for it? Does it cost extra?

alpine692003
01-17-2004, 10:19 PM
I dont think it costs extra? Just makes the customer want your services more!

I just bought the book, PICTURE PERFECT! it's alright!

Expert Lawns
01-17-2004, 10:24 PM
a few stripes

Expert Lawns
01-17-2004, 10:27 PM
as good as that last one turned out, I'll try another one....

Expert Lawns
01-17-2004, 10:41 PM
sorry guys

chefdrp
01-17-2004, 11:20 PM
I dont know how you can mow and not get a stripe? Just go one way going and the otherway comeing. Its just bent grass blades. and reflecting the light.

Kelly & Sons
01-18-2004, 02:28 PM
I feel ya bigamp... here in Jacksonville, the St Augustine grass looks basically the same, no matter which way you cut it. I just bought a walker 26hp 48GHS, so I am going to see how it works, and see if I can get some good looking stripes!

LawnMower
01-19-2004, 11:21 AM
Kelly & sons

Try cutting the grass high. It might bend over better. In my picture I'm cutting it at 3 inches.

lilred731
01-19-2004, 12:19 PM
Last year I used a 21" Toro pushmower and created stripes on all of the properties I cut using it. Most of the time I had it on the highest setting 3 1/2" Some request a lower setting and the mower still stripped well. I just wished I would have taken some pictures of the properties maybe this year I will.

lilred731
01-19-2004, 12:23 PM
Last year I used a 21" Toro push mower and created stripes on all of the properties I cut using it. Most of the time I had it on the highest setting 3 1/2" Some request a lower setting and the mower still stripped well. I just wished I would have taken some pictures of the properties maybe this year I will.


Sorry didn't say this.

To get angles start cutting the property from the middle outward using the angle you want. Start at a corner and cut through the middle and continue to the end of the property or something else. This is how I do them.

DieselDeere
01-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Chris Wagner
Of course we're always on a limited budget, but both pics were cut with a John Deere LT155. No special attachments.


Wow mine could never do that. 38" cut 15HP Kohler Chris?

Chris Wagner
01-20-2004, 06:19 PM
Correct.

C.T. Lawn Care
01-20-2004, 06:47 PM
go both ways

yourlawnguy
01-20-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by bigamp
New to the biz and love the striping. I haven' t seen any of that here in NE Florida. How did you learn that and how do you charge for it? Does it cost extra?

Striping is nearly impossible here in Fl. however it can be done. These stripes are in a Bahai lawn cut with a Hustler walkbehind and Jungle Wheels. The Jungle Wheels are what create the stripes, the platform rests low enough to push the grass down. Even if you are able to create stripes on these warm season grasses they generally dissapear real quick.