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rwb
02-25-2004, 12:56 PM
what do you use to spread compsted manure on small lawns? besides a shovel and a tractor mounted pto driven spreader.

yardmonkey
02-27-2004, 11:45 AM
I use a 5-gallon bucket and my hand. I find this to be quite efficient for spreading anything that won't work in my broadcast spreader. I can put a truckload of compost onto a 1500ft lawn prettty evenly in less than an hour. It is very satisfying to me to apply organic materials by hand.

There are spreaders that can supposedly put down just about anything. I have not used one. They are expensive. Here is a link to the Spyker Mulch-n-More spreader at A.M.Leonard ($582):
http://www.amleo.com/index/item.cgi?cmd=view&Words=298s
They also have this in a tow version.
I'm not sure what a "compost spreader" is, but I suspect this is like a cylinder with holes in it.

Dchall_San_Antonio
03-02-2004, 02:21 AM
The cylinders with holes in them don't work. Even if you prescreen the stuff going in, they plug up from the inside. I've never seen a spreader that worked that was practical for small areas. If you are doing sports fields, you might look at farm implements used for slinging manure. Generally they have a conveyer belt that drags compost from the bottom of a hopper and drops it into a whirlygig to throw it out.

Or you could look at using something like a hydromulcher or the machine they use to blow insulation into walls. Those things can blow some very serious quantities in a very short time.

I've also heard of people putting the familiar small piles in the yard and hitting them with a leaf blower to spread.

craigs lawncare
03-06-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by rwb
what do you use to spread compsted manure on small lawns? besides a shovel and a tractor mounted pto driven spreader.

What do you guys think of this?
http://www.newerspreader.com/details.htm#how
I plan of purchasing one of these soon.

Craig:)

Puttinggreens
03-07-2004, 10:59 PM
I have a Cushamn 3 wheel truckster I use for my business. Three years ago I bought a Cushman topdresser unit for it (used $2000) and it works great. I actually spread Earthmate, Phila. PA product, by the acre. Does a great job after aerating and seeding a lawn. Helps keep the young seedlings from drying out but also improves the soil characteristics.

craigs lawncare
03-09-2004, 07:19 PM
Judging by the lack of response to this thread about available soil/manure compost spreaders, there is either a lack of interest in compost spreading or this is simply an area in the green industry market that is still waiting to be tapped.
I think there is interest in the idea of compost spreading. I my-self could sell a ton of top-dressing work if I had a spreader but there just does not seem to be a device on the market that is affordable and practical.

Craig

dylan
03-13-2004, 04:12 PM
My favorite subject! There are a few excellent treads on composting. Some might be doubles.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=60461

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=65135

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=56259

Here are some pics of my gear for topdressing.

Craig, check out my topdressor. Yes they are expensive but they do an excellent job and will last a very long time. Mine is between 20 and 25 yrs old. Used ones are available from golf courses.

dylan
03-13-2004, 04:16 PM
topdressing requires lots of gear.

dylan
03-13-2004, 04:22 PM
Here is an 8000 sq ft job that we topdressed. It is several days later and the topdressing is disappearing. In the background, (3000 sq ft) the lawn was so bad we rotadaironed it. Over 40 yards of compost and soil went into this job. Took two of us most of the morning. We cleaned up and set up the sprinklers in the afternoon. The tractor is great for loading the topdressor.

30 yrds used to take two days and three guys.

dylan
03-13-2004, 04:32 PM
Found some more. They might be doubles. Lots to read here. There is tons of info and every machine available is listed, with pictures too. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=53928

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=50262

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=46633

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=18691

dylan
03-13-2004, 04:37 PM
David
You mentioned a hydromulcher a few posts back. I've been looking at the hydroseeder units by Turf maker and they look heavy duty enough to spread liquid compost. Ever experimented with this? Would it be beneficial to add compost to the mulch, seed, fert and water in the hydro tank? Could be a "new" service here or at least something to make your company different.

Thanks Dylan

Dchall_San_Antonio
03-14-2004, 04:54 PM
The spreader that dylan has illustrated holds 1/3 of a cubic yard in the hopper. That will cover 300 square feet. Assuming the hopper is 24 inches wide, you will drive 150 feet before having to stop and refill the hopper. To cover an acre you would have to stop 130 times.

A hydromulcher and a 12 yard truck can blow about 10 yards per hour (I think I have that right) or 10,000 square feet per hour. An acre would take all morning and a couple trucks.

I don't know what the farm implements can sling but I believe it is a lot more than that. The self contained one I saw most recently would hold about 3 yards and needed a PTO.

craigs lawncare
03-15-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by dylan
My favorite subject! There are a few excellent treads on composting. Some might be doubles.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=60461

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?...ght=topdressing

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=65135

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=56259

Here are some pics of my gear for topdressing.

Craig, check out my topdressor. Yes they are expensive but they do an excellent job and will last a very long time. Mine is between 20 and 25 yrs old. Used ones are available from golf courses.


Dylan,

Nice machine... I have seen a few pic's of this on lawn site. I would like to get one this summer, but I am just not willing to spend hug $'s for a compost spreader right now.

Craig

mtdman
03-16-2004, 12:04 AM
I think for the most part this is a major untapped area of the green industry, so far. You can either go with large tractors and implements, or something like what dylan has. But for the small to medium sized homeowner yard, there isn't really a good solution for spreading compost as of yet. And certainly not an inexpensive answer, imo. I would really like to get into doing this, I just haven't figured it all out yet.

Turco, who makes that machine dylan has, does have some of the best equipment I've seen for this. Their stuff is more for golf courses than residential homes, and that equipment is somewhat expensive.

www.turfco.com

mtdman
03-16-2004, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Dchall_San_Antonio
The spreader that dylan has illustrated holds 1/3 of a cubic yard in the hopper. That will cover 300 square feet. Assuming the hopper is 24 inches wide, you will drive 150 feet before having to stop and refill the hopper. To cover an acre you would have to stop 130 times.

That is a major drawback to this machine, as I see it. Turfco claims the spreading width is 31 inches or so. It would be a pain to keep refilling the thing. But, still much easier than spreading with a wheel barrel and shovel.

dylan, do you find that you have to stop to refil often?

dylan
03-16-2004, 05:20 PM
Mtdman
I used to stop and fill ALOT. (still way faster than a wheelbarrow because there is no raking to spread it out)I added extra sides to my machine and more than doubled my capacity. It now holds around 1/2 or 3/4 of a yard. Not too bad. The machine empties in about 30 seconds or one minute but by that time the tractor has scooped up the next bucket full and you are off to the races again. With a tractor and a topdressor, the work goes very fast. It used to take me hours to load it by hand. I think the ultimate set up would be two topdressors and one tractor. Good for large sites.

If my machine holds 3/4 yard heaped and I am applying 1 yd per 1000 on a 10000 sf ft lawn that equals 10 yds and 14 stops for loading. Not too bad. 30 seconds to load. one minute to spread.
So, 14 times 1.5 minutes equals 21 minutes to do 10,000 sq ft. Hm, I don't think I'm that fast but even if you double that time to 42 minutes, that is a pretty good production rate. I'll keep better track of times this summer for a comparison.

Another alternative is using a dump truck/ trailer with a "gate" opening. This small opening only allows a small bit out at once. Just park your topdressor underneath and filler up! Eliminates the tractor and cleaning up the mess left by dumping on the ground. You are then limited to the capacity of your dump. Good for small lawns.

mtdman
03-16-2004, 05:50 PM
Most of what I'd be doing is around 6000 sq ft in size. That wouldn't mean too many reloading stops. Having a helper running a wheel barrel back and forth would probably help with the loading, too.

What kind of extensions did you put on the hopper? I really like that machine, and I see Turfco is selling it for around $5000 direct online. Decisions, decisions.

:D

Puttinggreens
03-16-2004, 08:25 PM
I see you are discussing the turfco topdressor.
I started with a similar machine,,, may even be a turfco, couldn't tell by the time I picked it up from a golf course. Check out Turfnet.com under they're used equipment. I have seen used topdressors like what you are interested in.

My background is mostly golfcourse so I am more familiar with the larger topdressors. The small unit I had like the Turfco was good until the properties started getting bigger. You lose alot of time transporting back to the truck for more material. Also, they are tough to use on hills, the centerof gravity is not very low,,, especailly if you build up the sides. Most of these machines are origianlly designed for topdressing putting greens with a materail high in sand content. In other words, they are designed for a material much heavier than compost so you can get away with raising the sides a little.

I found it difficut to make money at the rate of organic matter I wanted to put down so I dropped the rate way down and topdress every year. I am at 2 to 2.5 thousand squre feet per cubic yard. I only topdress on top of aerification and seed and my customers love it.

Turfco also makes some good pull behind models if you ever want a larger model. I know these are on Turfnet.com, just need to keep looking. Most of the good used golfcourse equipment usally shows up in the winter when superintendents are slow.

Hope you can use some of this info.

dylan
03-17-2004, 09:07 AM
$5000 eh? Maybe time for another?

For the sides, I just bolted on some sheet metal/ plywood to the existing sides so that it continued out at an angle. The original opening would have been about 30" across. Now it is 68" across to match the bucket on the tractor. I'll put a picture up when I drag it out of the barn.


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Does my drawing make sense to you?

The center of gravity is very high on these machines. For steeper lawns you will need helpers to keep it upright. i've considered an outrigger wheel that locks into position. I've rolled mine at least three times! Takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

Thanks for the input puttinggreens. Lower application rates might be interesting but so far my customers like to SEE what I've done. I'll experiment with rates this summer. Could be more $ in my pocket and that is always a good thing!
Turfquip is a good source for used I agree. Those machines can last a very long time.

mtdman
03-18-2004, 04:29 AM
Thanks for the additional info dylan. I understand what you are saying about the extensions. Thanks for the help!

I found this link while searching on the web, for those interested:

http://grounds-mag.com/ar/grounds_maintenance_focus_topdressers/index.htm

craigs lawncare
03-18-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by mtdman
I think for the most part this is a major untapped area of the green industry, so far. You can either go with large tractors and implements, or something like what dylan has. But for the small to medium sized homeowner yard, there isn't really a good solution for spreading compost as of yet. And certainly not an inexpensive answer, imo. I would really like to get into doing this, I just haven't figured it all out yet.

Turco, who makes that machine dylan has, does have some of the best equipment I've seen for this. Their stuff is more for golf courses than residential homes, and that equipment is somewhat expensive.

www.turfco.com


mtdman, You hit it right on the head with that comment!

Craig

dylan
03-23-2004, 12:02 AM
Buying topdressers used is one option to save some money. I agree it hard to spend big dollars on a machine that will see minimal use. On the other hand, I'm glad they cost a lot of money because it really limits the competition. If they sold an amazing topdressing machine at walmart for say $300 bucks, EVERYONE would be topdressing.

Could you rent one from a local golf course? They don't use them every day.

If you compare one commercial wb or zturn against a topdresser they are both in the same ball park ($5000- $10,000)
If you were topdressing lawns (say 1-3 per day) five days a week it would not take long to pay for such a machine. Especially because the opportunity for higher profit margins is better with topdressing. 3 lawns per day at $200 or $300 is $600 or $900. (these numbers for illustration only because 6-10 lawns per day is possible) You have to cut 20 $30 lawns to get $600.

You just have to decide when to make the jump from the wheelbarrow and shovel and doing 10 yards per year to using some topdressing equipment and doing 250 yards per year.

craigs lawncare
04-01-2004, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by dylan
Buying topdressers used is one option to save some money. I agree it hard to spend big dollars on a machine that will see minimal use. On the other hand, I'm glad they cost a lot of money because it really limits the competition. If they sold an amazing topdressing machine at walmart for say $300 bucks, EVERYONE would be topdressing.

Could you rent one from a local golf course? They don't use them every day.

If you compare one commercial wb or zturn against a topdresser they are both in the same ball park ($5000- $10,000)
If you were topdressing lawns (say 1-3 per day) five days a week it would not take long to pay for such a machine. Especially because the opportunity for higher profit margins is better with topdressing. 3 lawns per day at $200 or $300 is $600 or $900. (these numbers for illustration only because 6-10 lawns per day is possible) You have to cut 20 $30 lawns to get $600.

You just have to decide when to make the jump from the wheelbarrow and shovel and doing 10 yards per year to using some topdressing equipment and doing 250 yards per year.

Hey, renting from the local golf course is a great idea.
Never actually thought of that one.
I still think there has got to be a cheaper rout than several thousand dollars.
Our local Quality Farm and Fleet has a small manure spreader that is probably 1/3 the size of a normal one. Has anyone used a manure spreader before?

Craig

mtdman
04-28-2004, 12:20 AM
Any updates on the never ending search for a good spreader? The local Lesco guy suggested I just use a regular commercial drop spreader with loose compost. I don't know about that one. Although I have found a good supply of compost locally from the city. And I added a small paragraph to my Aeration page on my website about top dressing with compost, which has gotten me a ton of response without even advertising it. I'd like to get a program together before the fall. I need to find a good applicator, and decide whether to use real compost or pelletized compost. And find a supplier for pelletized compost in my area, if I go that route.

I've inquired at a few golf courses, but no one has a small enough top dresser to use residentially.

:D

Duramax99
05-03-2004, 09:23 PM
There is a company in pennslyania that makes pellitized compost. We just started using it this year in our organic program. We spread it with on e of those prize lawn big foot spreaders. It works great and is more conventional than using a tractor and a topdresser.

Duramax99
05-03-2004, 09:28 PM
You can do two things. There is a company in Pennslyvania that makes pellitized compost that is dehydrated. You can spread it with a Prize lawn big foot. This is a great alternative to using a tractor and topdresser. It is less time consuming has the same result and is inexpenisve, so it can be an easier sell to the customers because it will provide the same benefit as loose compost.

muddstopper
05-04-2004, 07:57 PM
Actually, I am thinking about spraying it on with my hydroseeder. If I can run 350lbs of lime and fert thru it, compost should be a breeze. Bowies tailgate mulcher straw blowers are made to suck and blow and might be another option.

twwlawn
05-04-2004, 10:34 PM
www.newerspreader.com I went out on a limb and got the spreader. Got tired of spreading compost or top dressing on lawns by hand. Could not find any helpful information and decided to take a chance and hopefully find something that will help me and others to apply compost or top dressings to lawn area's.

I have put 35 yards of compost & composted manure thru this spreader, dry and wet. To test how much material comes out of the spreader, I tested it on my driveway, the depth of material was 1/4" to 1/2". With dry material there were no problems and the wet materials would ball up some, seeing that I installed the agitator and that helped and no more balling up.

The spreader works okay, the lawns that I did first, new grass is coming up nice. I hope this helps in trying to find something low in cost.

mtdman
05-05-2004, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by twwlawn
www.newerspreader.com I went out on a limb and got the spreader. Got tired of spreading compost or top dressing on lawns by hand. Could not find any helpful information and decided to take a chance and hopefully find something that will help me and others to apply compost or top dressings to lawn area's.

I have put 35 yards of compost & composted manure thru this spreader, dry and wet. To test how much material comes out of the spreader, I tested it on my driveway, the depth of material was 1/4" to 1/2". With dry material there were no problems and the wet materials would ball up some, seeing that I installed the agitator and that helped and no more balling up.

The spreader works okay, the lawns that I did first, new grass is coming up nice. I hope this helps in trying to find something low in cost.

I've seen that before. What do you use to pull/push the speader? Hook it to the back of a rider mower? Also, how often do you have to refill it? The Lesco guy recommended a regular drop spreader, don't know if that would do the job.

Duramax, are you talking Laurel Valley? I've had them in mind for a while, but they have no distributors anywhere around me in Michigan. I even went so far as to email them about shipping to me. And so far I've had no luck finding anything similar near me.

twwlawn
05-06-2004, 08:24 AM
Mtdman, Pulling the spreader by hand with dry compost is ok if you got alot of energy, not with wet material, perfer to pull with tractor. Spreader will hold one wheelbarrow load plus a little, has a three foot spread path, area of coverage is between 500 to 600 sq. ft. per load. Regular drop spreader will clog up, tried and done that. I know that one LCO that buys the pellitized compost and spreads with a rotary spreader. He says it works but perfer's the loose compost as far as costs are conerned. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions, be glad to help.

Five Diamond Lawns
05-08-2004, 10:08 AM
Hey, twwlawns thanks for being the one to put out the dough and try this spreader. I've been reading about it for a couple weeks and have done nothing about it.
So, how does it compare to doing it by hand? Time wise??? How many yards spread in an hour???? Do you use a helper to be most efficient????

One thing I was toying with is attaching a piece of chain link fence behind the unit to drag and work it into the soil. Any thoughts????? Would the spreader hold up to that???

Thanks again for trying it not just talking about it!

twwlawn
05-08-2004, 07:14 PM
Five Diamond Lawns, The spreader works great compared to doing it by hand, I have a helpers bringing compost to refill the spreader, I have spread up to 6 to 8 yards in an hour. Attaching a chain link fence to the rear of the spreader could be done, anything is possible. Hopes this helps.

Five Diamond Lawns
05-09-2004, 10:20 AM
Thanks, twwlawns! That helps a lot. 6 to 8 yards a hour thats great I'll own one Monday!!!!

geoexplorer
05-21-2004, 12:14 PM
I came across a spreader manufactured in Ontario, Canada called the mini-topper. It's big bucks - about $500 + shipping. As a homeowner, a bit steep for me. I'll be going with the Laurel Valley Pelletized Compost which just became available in my area. Website for the spreader is: http://www.sportsturfmagic.com/

twwlawn
05-22-2004, 12:34 PM
I looked into that mini-topper and the shipping was 200 bucks, plus it would take up to 2 -3 weeks to get it. Maybe later on down te road I'll get it. The spreader I got awhile back is doing the job so far. I also talked to a company out of Seattle that was gettting one, the owner just took over and said to get back with him in couple of months to see if they are worth it or not.

If you get it, let me know, if not, I'll go out on the limb again. Gotta find the best tool for the job.

craigs lawncare
05-23-2004, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by twwlawn
www.newerspreader.com I went out on a limb and got the spreader. Got tired of spreading compost or top dressing on lawns by hand. Could not find any helpful information and decided to take a chance and hopefully find something that will help me and others to apply compost or top dressings to lawn area's.

I have put 35 yards of compost & composted manure thru this spreader, dry and wet. To test how much material comes out of the spreader, I tested it on my driveway, the depth of material was 1/4" to 1/2". With dry material there were no problems and the wet materials would ball up some, seeing that I installed the agitator and that helped and no more balling up.

The spreader works okay, the lawns that I did first, new grass is coming up nice. I hope this helps in trying to find something low in cost.


Twwlawn,

Glad to hear the newer spreader was adequate for the job. As you know I had been thinking of purchasing this piece of equipment. How has it been holding up? I think I would rather use actual compost rather than granulated, thats why this cheaper alternative spreader is appealing to me. Do you think if you somehow modified the top so it could haul a bigger load, it would handle the extra increased capacity?

Craig

twwlawn
05-23-2004, 11:01 AM
Craig,

132 yards of composted manure has gone through the spreader, it is holding up with no problems. Anything is possible to modify equipment to meet certain needs as long as the structure of the equipment is not degraded to function properly. The sides can be extended for a larger load. I have not done that or added anything to the spreader because it meets my needs as is. The spreader works for me, its alot better than using a wheel barrow and rake. Hopes this helps, contact me with anymore questions, be glad to help.

JethroBodine
05-25-2004, 08:15 AM
http://www.earthandturf.com/multispread.htm

twwlawn
05-25-2004, 09:33 AM
JethroBodine,

I did look at these spreaders, getting them through 36" gates is a problem, plus the cost for these range from 2470.00 to 5720.00, depends on what options you want. There are some folks here on LS that use them. With the New Spreader I can get it through the 36" gates, plus the cost is alot lower.

craigs lawncare
05-27-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by JethroBodine
http://www.earthandturf.com/multispread.htm

How much are they?

Craig :)

craigs lawncare
05-27-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by craigs lawncare
How much are they?

Craig :)

Forget my last post...

Craig

twwlawn
05-27-2004, 04:53 PM
Depends of the model, look at my last post.

craigs lawncare
07-04-2004, 12:18 PM
I thought I would revive this thread.
Has anyone out there found a decent spreader?

Craig

mtdman
08-04-2004, 12:00 AM
I am really interested to hear if anyone has used the pelletized compost from Laurel Valley and what they think of it. Does it work to improve soils/growth? I am thinking that for now this is a solution. I can't justify spending the big $$ on major equipment for a service that might not take. Not to mention, I really am not impressed by the spreaders presented so far.

:D

mtdman
08-04-2004, 12:19 AM
I'd also like to hear, from those of you who do it now, how exactly your setup for topdressing works. How often you have to refill, how you work the refillings, etc. Do you have a worker running back and forth with more compost? Do you go to a refilling point? Do you shovel it in, use a scoop, whatever? Also, what are your average costs vs your average charge for what sized lawns?

I ask because I've been trying to figure out what kind of setup I would use to do this. Trying to figure how labor intensive it's going to be, exactly.

Five Diamond Lawns
01-02-2005, 03:04 PM
$3500 seems way to expensive for such a small hopper

Dchall_San_Antonio
01-12-2005, 01:40 AM
Not to mention the small screen clogging up as soon as the first compost falls into it.

gogetter
01-12-2005, 08:29 AM
Not to mention the small screen clogging up as soon as the first compost falls into it.

This is based on personal experience with THIS particular machine I assume??

Dchall_San_Antonio
01-12-2005, 10:04 AM
This is based on personal experience with THIS particular machine I assume?? :blush: :blush: :blush: I sincerely apologize. :blush: :blush: :blush:

I looked at the picture and made an assumption about the machine and how it worked but I was wrong. I saw the screen at the bottom and recognized the screen immediately as the screen that I tried to use to screen my compost. I found the screen clogged up immediately. But my assumption was that the screen was used to screen the compost for application. That's where I was wrong.

If you have prejudged that compost spreader like I did, go back to the website and look for the video. It clearly shows that the compost pours out above the roller screen. The screen is used to spread, not filter. I've never seen compost flow like that apparently does. Maybe you can go directly to the video at www.topdresser.ca/?Video

My only concern was that it looked like it would spread about an inch at a time. Was that just for demonstration? Can the spread rate be dropped down by about 1/3 to apply 1/3 inch? Anyone know?

Once again, I apologize. I thought I'd seen all the compost spreaders there was out there but I'm pleasantly surprised by this one. :waving:

gogetter
01-12-2005, 10:32 AM
Hey David. Regarding the application rate, the info I received in the mail states:

"An in-hopper agitator and rate adjustment baffle has increased the types of products that can be applied".

Dchall_San_Antonio
01-12-2005, 12:25 PM
Well well! This is the first compost applicator I've seen that works. That video really sold me. If you can adjust the application rate, even by speeding up the wheels, I'm there. I would suggest all the pros look at the video at least. I need to bookmark that video because I see this question all over the web.

Grassboy 101
01-16-2005, 09:50 AM
Has anyone in Texas used this spreader? Would like to hear from anyone who has. Am desperately looking for a small unit like this. Anyone have a used
Turfco unit for sale?

DUSTYCEDAR
01-16-2005, 10:27 AM
i may???????????????

bullspreader
09-13-2006, 12:14 PM
A company that operates out of Ft Worth Tx. offers 4 compost spreaders that spread from 3 cubic ft to 1 cubic yard in in a matter of seconds. Check out their site at www.bullspreader.com

Daner
09-13-2006, 01:41 PM
This Is what I use for top dressing.
I can do It all with this set up fert. seed ,spray...And top dress:weightlifter: Let eer snow:)

bullspreader
09-13-2006, 04:09 PM
Judging by the lack of response to this thread about available soil/manure compost spreaders, there is either a lack of interest in compost spreading or this is simply an area in the green industry market that is still waiting to be tapped.
I think there is interest in the idea of compost spreading. I my-self could sell a ton of top-dressing work if I had a spreader but there just does not seem to be a device on the market that is affordable and practical.

Craig
Go to www.bullspreader.com The awnser to spreading compost is there.

horsemaid5
09-30-2006, 12:12 PM
Danner, where do I find the compost spreader that you showed in your last post? We have a small horse farm and a manure spreader isn't heavy duty enough for the compost. Thanks.

bullspreader
10-01-2006, 07:27 AM
www.bullspreader.com Call Daniel Ellsaesser at 817-658-6615

pick5716
10-02-2006, 06:01 PM
I see the www.newerspreader.com has now come out with a larger version that is suppose to hold 50% more. Not sure of price on larger model so if anyone picks one up let us know how it works.

http://www.newerspreader.com/images/Finished%20Spreader400.jpg

jb123
11-04-2006, 10:54 AM
Has anyone looked into or used a top dresser/compost spreader made by Bannerman. They have a push model for about $700.

Turfco Tim
11-06-2006, 11:47 AM
Wow! I am sorry I have missed out on this chatter for the past 6 months. I just got back from GIE in Columbus, OH. At the mud bog, which was officially referred to as the outside demo day, we had a Mete-R-Matic top dresser demo. The response was excellent.

We have been building machines to spread organic material for over 40 years. So I think I can provide some insight into features to be aware of when purchasing a spreader. I see that price and features are a big concern for all of you, which they should be. Something to remember is the more features you request the higher the price. Capacity, motorized drive, ability to spread a wide range of materials all add to the price, but are all very important features.

Of all the features you should look for, the ability to spread wet material is the most important. Because if it doesn't come out of the machine no matter how much or little you paid for the machine no longer matters. Any heavy organic material will contain some level of moisture. Moisture is the enemy of spreaders because it causes material to stick to the sides which can cause a "bridge". This occurs when the material sticks to the sides of the hopper and stops flowing creating a cavity below the material. This is more of an issue with gravity type spreaders. The reason this occurs with gravity fed machines is that they need angled sides to gain capacity. Material tends to stick to the angled sides causing the "bridge".

Belt type spreaders move wet material better but there are even differences in their performance with wet material. A smooth belt tends to slide under wet material and give an inconsistent spread. Patterned belts give the best performance in spreading compost type material.

I highly recommend that you purchase a machine that is self propelled. Push spreaders are inexpensive but that comes at the cost of lost productivity and lack of capacity.

When it comes to capacity remember that the larger the machine the less amount of places you can access. In a home lawn that could mean not getting in the back yard or top dressing a slope. On the other side of the coin if the machine doesn't have adequate capacity you lose productivity.

I think all of you are on the right track considering top dressing as part of your services offered. Agronomically it is great for lawns, financially it is great for you.

I hope this helps.

Best of luck!

Tim Gray
Turfco, Mfg.

pick5716
02-21-2007, 01:56 AM
Hey Turfco Tim I see you are from Blaine MN. Any chance you know of somewhere in the Twin Cities Metro Area that rents topdressing type machines. I only need to use one once or twice a year and will not get back a return for buying a good quality machine but being able to rent would work out great. Thanks for your help. You can contact me at cspickhardt@msn.com

Turfco Tim
03-10-2007, 03:34 PM
pick5716,

Sorry I haven't replied sooner. It's show season for us so I have been travelling a lot.
I can't think of anyone right off hand who rents top dressers in the Twin Cities. Check with some material suppliers like Plaisted's or Litener's. They may have a machine or be able to point you in the right direction
If I come across something I will let you know.

Tim Gray
Turfco Mfg.