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brettmc
02-26-2004, 11:00 AM
I did a search and couldn't find a definition for scrub. What is a scrub?

Reason I ask is...I might be one!! I have only 2 mowers, both 6-7 years old, 1 backpack blower bout 3 years old, 1 trimmer bout 7 yrs old (gonna buy a new Shin or Stihl today tho). I work out of an old 1983 Chevy K10. I work part time (computer systems guy full time) and have about 10 accounts (which will hopefully increase after my ad in a local newspaper comes out next week). I don't try to undercut prices cause I'm prolly the most expensive guy in town...I price my lawn maint/landscaping at $40-$50 per hour plus materials. I work clean and smart and have no complaints from my customers, most of which I have had for over 3 years. I'll add 1 or 2 customers every year and drop 1 or 2 a year. Usually the ones that drop off are the ones that ask me to do extra duties and are appalled when I bill them for it. If they cry and moan over having to pay for extra work, they get canned diplomatically. Am I a scrub?

Brett :cool:

65hoss
02-26-2004, 11:05 AM
So what exactly is the point to this? Trying to start something? Trying to make yourself feel better?

This is a pointless thread that will only stir the pot up.

clcare
02-26-2004, 11:13 AM
I have always considered a scrub someone who does lawn or landscaping part time and tries to underbid and uses beat up equipment that professional's won't.
These people take work away from kids that I would normally hire for summer help, and are usually pushing snow with a 4 wheeler there customers usualy won't use them for a second year.

brettmc
02-26-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by 65hoss
So what exactly is the point to this? Trying to start something? Trying to make yourself feel better?

This is a pointless thread that will only stir the pot up.

I've seen references to "scrub" but don't know what one is and if I would be referred to as one. If I am, it won't change anything cause I'm waaaay past the point of caring what other prople think of me. All I'm lookin for is a simple definition. If you don't like it, go read another post.

Brett :cool:

pjslawncare/landscap
02-26-2004, 12:10 PM
Good luck Brettmc. Seems that no one wants to say exactly what a scrub is, but use the word as a label or attention getter. The best I figure, "scrub" is enemy #1.
I asked one time simply where does the word "scrub" come from? Is it abbreviation like"stupid, crappy, underhanded,dumbass"? I simply wanted to know. It was amusing that a couple people responded as if I just shot there dog or something. Its just interesting how that word brings such aggression out of us lawncare guys. Whats up with that? Again, I just simply want to know.

Let it Grow
02-26-2004, 12:16 PM
I never heard the word until I came to this site, but I see them as the guys who drive around pretending that they are a business because they own a lawn mower & trimmer. The ones who don't pay any insurance, workers comp, and can underbid anyone they want. These guys take work from those of us who are proffessionals, and drive the prices down.

That's my two cents worth!

gogetter
02-26-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
Am I a scrub?


Yes. Simply for asking this question.

brettmc
02-26-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by gogetter
Yes. Simply for asking this question.

Nah, I don't qualify. However, I would try to undercut YOUR prices!!

Brett

65hoss
02-26-2004, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
I've seen references to "scrub" but don't know what one is and if I would be referred to as one. If I am, it won't change anything cause I'm waaaay past the point of caring what other prople think of me. All I'm lookin for is a simple definition. If you don't like it, go read another post.

Brett :cool:

If you had done a search you would know that there is no simple answer to the question. Different people have different opinions. You would also see that this subject always starts fights. Its never a productive topic, but a destructive one. Based on the responses you have given, that is what you are looking for.

J&R
02-26-2004, 01:04 PM
MY definition of a scrub. IS some that has more work than he can do and still can't afford to buy a new mower.

brettmc
02-26-2004, 01:12 PM
If you had done a search you would know that there is no simple answer to the question. Different people have different opinions. You would also see that this subject always starts fights. Its never a productive topic, but a destructive one. Based on the responses you have given, that is what you are looking for.

Awwww, go :cry: somewhere else.

Let me repeat myself, I'm just looking for a d-e-f-i-n-i-t-i-o-n. If you have nothing to contribute except BS, just go away. If you're just trying to increase your post count, again, just go post somewhere else.

Brett :cool:

LawnPerfect
02-26-2004, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Let it Grow
I never heard the word until I came to this site, but I see them as the guys who drive around pretending that they are a business because they own a lawn mower & trimmer. The ones who don't pay any insurance, workers comp, and can underbid anyone they want. These guys take work from those of us who are proffessionals, and drive the prices down.

That's my two cents worth!


Let it Grow summed it up perfectly.

Rhett
02-26-2004, 01:22 PM
How about: A person that operates without paying taxes and required licenses.

LawnPerfect
02-26-2004, 01:25 PM
dont forget about insurance

gogetter
02-26-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
Nah, I don't qualify. However, I would try to undercut YOUR prices!!

Brett

Oh Yaaayy! Another one of these kind of members. Man it gets old.:rolleyes:

NCSULandscaper
02-26-2004, 01:37 PM
If you did a search for scrub definition on this site, then you must have mis-spelt it. This topic has been beat to death.

gator-town
02-26-2004, 01:38 PM
Defiinition of a SCRUB ... this is easy ... someone who posts comments like However, I would try to undercut YOUR prices!!

DLCS
02-26-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by NCSULandscaper
If you did a search for scrub definition on this site, then you must have mis-spelt it. This topic has been beat to death.

yes, and all it does is bring on a argument. :(

65hoss
02-26-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
Awwww, go :cry: somewhere else.

Let me repeat myself, I'm just looking for a d-e-f-i-n-i-t-i-o-n. If you have nothing to contribute except BS, just go away. If you're just trying to increase your post count, again, just go post somewhere else.

Brett :help:

If I wanted to increase my post count I would have started a thread like this.

dkeisala
02-26-2004, 01:55 PM
Operating under the table and under the radar are two defining factors of a scrub. Kinda like the two greasy guys I saw operating out of the a$$ end of a beat up Ford Granada one day :)

NCSULandscaper
02-26-2004, 02:02 PM
I think this thread needs to be closed before the s**t hits the fan.

fga
02-26-2004, 02:16 PM
a srub is someone who is not running their business "by the book". for example (no taxes, insurance,etc.) Usually people who work like this have tendencies to low ball and undercut business with more overhead from..... taxes, insurance,etc.. therefore causing "uneasyness" towards them. period! Done!

I don't think the quality of your machines matters as much, as long as your playing a fair game.

Pilgrims' Pride
02-26-2004, 02:35 PM
Does anyone agree that a scrub could also be a larger company who just has a bad (and proven)
reputation for underhanded business practices?
Or do we have a better name for them?

brettmc
02-26-2004, 02:58 PM
Ok, Ive got a good idea of what it means now. For all the folks that posted with coherent input, Thank You. All others, and you know who you are, thanks for such a warm welcome to this site. (insert sarcastic smilie here>

Brett :cool:

laborador
02-26-2004, 03:03 PM
Hey brettmc

you mentioned that you work full time in the computer field. How is that career going. I am getting out of that field because I can not find permanent employment and getting into the landscaping field. It seems like their is a much better future in landscaping than in computers.

brettmc
02-26-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by laborador
Hey brettmc

you mentioned that you work full time in the computer field. How is that career going. I am getting out of that field because I can not find permanent employment and getting into the landscaping field. It seems like their is a much better future in landscaping than in computers.

I'm kind of in a niche part of the computer field. It's good in that only certain people do what I do and bad as in there aren't just a whole lot of these types of computers around. I work (operate, program) on IBM AS/400s. It keeps bread on the table and my vette in the garage! What type of computer work do you do? I will tell you one thing tho, you're ALWAYS better off working for yourself than for the boss.

Brett :cool:

gogetter
02-26-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
Ok, Ive got a good idea of what it means now.

Had your fun? The same answers you got in this thread are ALL over Lawnsite. Anyone that searched would have read them (by the hundreds).

Amazing how you didn't see them when you searched. <insert sarcastic smile here> :rolleyes:

brettmc
02-26-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by gogetter
Had your fun? The same answers you got in this thread are ALL over Lawnsite. Anyone that searched would have read them (by the hundreds).

Amazing how you didn't see them when you searched. <insert sarcastic smile here> :rolleyes:

Whatever:rolleyes:

My search was specific and quoted. It got some hits, I scanned, I saw nothing definitive. If it bothers you so much, why do you read it? To me it sounds as if YOU are the troublemaker. Just roll over and go back to sleep, cuz....with your sister.

laborador
02-26-2004, 04:31 PM
brettmc,

I am in the networking part of computers. I am sure you know that the job market sucks and thats why I am changing fields into landscaping.

brettmc
02-26-2004, 04:53 PM
Lab,
You would think in a city as large as Jxnville there would be more opportunity for network ppl. I see some ads here for network types. I see many ads for web people tho. I would like to do that kind of work but I'm too old to learn new tricks!

Brett

gogetter
02-26-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
Whatever:rolleyes:
To me it sounds as if YOU are the troublemaker. Just roll over and go back to sleep, cuz....with your sister.

Dude, you're 42 years old and that's what you come up with? Come on, gimme a break. If you're going to be an ass, at least be a clever ass.

There are 16 year olds on this site that act more mature then you have in this thread.

Let it Grow
02-26-2004, 04:58 PM
Come on guys, if you want to dog on each other all day, then PM each other. Don't waste everyone else's time.

crawdad
02-26-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by brettmc
Whatever:rolleyes:

My search was specific and quoted. It got some hits, I scanned, I saw nothing definitive. If it bothers you so much, why do you read it? To me it sounds as if YOU are the troublemaker. Just roll over and go back to sleep, cuz....with your sister.

Maybe you were too specific, and need to drop the quotes. What did you put in the search thingie?
Maybe I can help. I'm pretty good on the computers, though lawn work is my full time job. Maybe I should do computer work on the side, get someone to pay me cash payup ya know what I mean? No need to get on the paperwork...that way it's all profit!
So, anyhow, what was the question? Oh, yeah, what's a scrub...
Well, m-w.com says

<<Main Entry: 1scrub
Pronunciation: 'skr&b
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, alteration of schrobbe shrub -- more at SHRUB
1 a : a stunted tree or shrub
b : vegetation consisting chiefly of scrubs
c : a tract covered with scrub
2 : a domestic animal of mixed or unknown parentage and usually inferior conformation : MONGREL
3 : a person of insignificant size or standing
4 : a player not belonging to the first string >>


There are other definitions, but nothing pertaining to the green industry. Glad I could help, I'm happy to see you're making plenty of friends here.
Crawdad :waving:

brettmc
02-26-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by gogetter
Dude, you're 42 years old and that's what you come up with? Come on, gimme a break. If you're going to be an ass, at least be a clever ass.

There are 16 year olds on this site that act more mature then you have in this thread.

We talkin bout the same thread? :rolleyes:

PCLL
02-26-2004, 05:05 PM
I only wanted to second the Insurance suggestion.

Norm Al
02-26-2004, 05:17 PM
a scrub is one of them little bushes,,,,,when you line up a whole bunch of em they will make a hedge!

steve in Pa.
02-26-2004, 06:11 PM
we call scrubs, scamscapers here. guys with full time jobs and scape and cut lawns not maintain them, on the side for the extra CASH!!!!!! If they knew all the ins., workmens comp., all the license's you need, and every other permit ect. that you need to be a real landscaper full time they wouldn't even think about doing it.

impactlandscaping
02-26-2004, 06:20 PM
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awm
02-26-2004, 06:27 PM
a scrub is he man that gets the jobs he can an gets by with know how,,sometimes ..rather than buying an whole passle of equipment to make it look like hes doing well. a scrub is the one u see with less shiny equipmen than u. and waves at u.. which of course u ignore.. then he just chuckles to him self as he thinks of how many hes seen come an go..
a scrub is usually friendly and not hung up on image.. imagin in this country of haves to havenots a lawncare man who adtually finds somebody he feels adequate enuff to look down on.. in the end its this fellow that could probbly learn a little about life and lawncare from this same scrub..theresc really no scrubs just folks that like to put people in classs and label them..jmo

CNYScapes
02-26-2004, 06:27 PM
a scrub is anybody who underbids me and steals my contract.DONE:drinkup:

1MajorTom
02-26-2004, 07:20 PM
Let's put this one to sleep now ok?