Double blades on a mini z 44

[Trublmakr318]

Can I run double blades on my 19 horse 44 mini z? and what would I need to do this and what are the advantages of running doubles?

[mowerconsultant]

You can, you will need to use a longer bolt to attach them.
19hp may be marginal though, to run them.
Most guys run doubles to disperse the clippings faster and it also cuts the clippings a lot smaller.

Pj

[Jeds_Lawn_Care]

does running double blades void any warrantys?

[mowerconsultant]

does running double blades void any warrantys?

If it causes damage to the unit because you were running them then that particular damage wouldnt be under warranty.

[GrassmasterB]

how about running doubles on the 36'' mini z, with the 2 different length blades? will hustler ever have any different blades for the 36''? such as gators. or will the aftermarket be making the short blade any time soon?

[mowerconsultant]

how about running doubles on the 36'' mini z, with the 2 different length blades? will hustler ever have any different blades for the 36''? such as gators. or will the aftermarket be making the short blade any time soon?

I wouldnt run doubles, it isn't needed.
We do offer a few blade options.
Here they are.

36 side discharge 793802, 13.75" Stock Mini FasTrak blade
36 side discharge 793794, 20.5" Stock Mini FasTrak blade
36 catching 793935, 20.50" (right side only) very high lift blade
36 mulching 794214, 20.50"
36 mulching 794206, 13.75"
36 Gator 794222, 13.75"
36 Gator 794230, 20.50"
36 side discharge 600900, 13.75" (Fusion) Stock Mini Z blade
36 side discharge 600901, 20.50" (Fusion) Stock Mini Z blade

As far as aftermarkets, I am not sure, you would have to ask them.

Pj

[gps_jetskier]

I have a problem with mine leaving a stripe on the trim side since the deck was "updated" (larger opening with replacement deck). I have the non-xr7 deck like we talked about in another post. I'm wondering about doubles, fusions, or even putting an edge all the way down these for some help. I'm running the same blades I always had since new. I'm not sure the cut is as good as it was before the newer deck. Thought maybe it was the belt tension, but that's not it.

[GrassmasterB]

thanks PJ, i wasnt aware that hustler was making the gators for the 36. i only knew about the side discharge and mulching. i'll be stopping by the dealer today to order some. thanks again.

[mowerconsultant]

I have a problem with mine leaving a stripe on the trim side since the deck was "updated" (larger opening with replacement deck). I have the non-xr7 deck like we talked about in another post. I'm wondering about doubles, fusions, or even putting an edge all the way down these for some help. I'm running the same blades I always had since new. I'm not sure the cut is as good as it was before the newer deck. Thought maybe it was the belt tension, but that's not it.

Your still running the offset blades?
With the newer version of the old deck you need to run the Fusions with the spacers.
E-mail me and I will send you the information you need.

Pj

[gps_jetskier]

Well I'm running the same blades I've always had. I've had two sets all along. My dealer never mentioned to me when replacing the deck (you'll remember the paint issue) that I should run different blades. They are wavey and sharp for about 4" on each end. So they probably are not Fusions. Looking under the deck I see the bottom of the spindle in the deck, a section that's about 1.5" long (a spacer prolly?), the blade, and then bolt. Sort of bums me out to get the deck sorted out only to find out it obsoleted my blades in the process...or at least made it worse. Those blades are like $60 a set as I recall.

[mowerconsultant]

Are those the wavy mulching blades?, if so you are fine, other than you may need to run the spacer above the blade.
If they are the offset blades then you can still run them, they are not hurting anything, you just not getting the best cut quality with the offset's.
We updated those decks in mid 2005, enlarged the opening and went to a flat Fusion blade that is sharpened almost all the way to the center, when this change was made to a older version of that deck you need to put a blade spacer (when running the flat blades) above the blade to get it to run at the right level in the deck.
Or you could change out the spindle shafts to the newer longer style.
I guess we need to know exactly what blades you are running, then we can go from there.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/mowerconsultant/work/wavymulchingblade.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/mowerconsultant/work/offsetblade.jpg


Pj

[gps_jetskier]

As for the deck. Hustler replaced my first deck for a paint problem. The replacement deck was the newer version with the larger discharge. In all fairness the deck cut better with the original deck. Now I suspect that I'm running "not as good" blades in the setup and maybe that's the reason.

I have the offset blades shown and I'm fairly sure there is a spacer in there also. I haven't taken the blades off since the newer deck was put on. I had some other goodies put on the machine by the dealer and he sharpened them for me. The blade is about 1.5" from the end of the spindle. The blades are about 1.5"-2" off the ground when the deck is touching the ground. Course... I don't mow with it that way. Are you suppose to have a spacer with the original (non-Fusion) offset blades? Maybe the blades are too far down in the deck? I'm not sure I have the right setup.


Your thoughts?

[mowerconsultant]

Your certainly not to have the spacer and run the offset blades, it puts the blades to low in the deck and affects cut performance in your region and also is a safety issue.
If you have the spacers you need to run the Fusion blades, you will see a world of difference.
All this is assuming that the dealer put your original spindles in the new deck shell, if the deck came with new spindles then they already have the correct shafts and you dont need spacers.

Pj

[gps_jetskier]

No it was just the shell. We reused the spindles I had. There was nothing wrong with them. Huslter just supplied the shell and a few misc parts like a couple antiscalp wheels and a new chute. I'll go check again, but I'm pretty sure the deck has the spacers on it. Does this mean he put it together wrong?

[mowerconsultant]

If the dealer put spacers in and used the offset blades, then it is wrong.
I would make sure thats the case before I call him though, double check it.

Pj

[gps_jetskier]

Here's my deck as I got it back from the dealer. I mowed with it like this last year, and they just sharpened the blades this year. Can you tell me if this is right? If it's not I'm really disappointed.

gps_jetskier

[mowerconsultant]

Here's my deck as I got it back from the dealer. I mowed with it like this last year, and they just sharpened the blades this year. Can you tell me if this is right? If it's not I'm really disappointed.

gps_jetskier

You have the old style offset blade in the newer version of that deck (wider discharge opening), there is not a problem with it and there is nothing wrong.
The cut could be better with the Fusion flat blades, you can bolt Fusions on, you just need to buy them and a spacer kit to compensate for the offset blade.
When we made the change on that deck we made the discharge opening wider and went to the Fusion blade at the same time.
There are plenty of customers out there that opted to just enlarge the opening of the discharge for better discharge.

Pj

[gps_jetskier]

OK. So what's above the blade there, yet below the spindle housing, is just the end of the spindle shaft? There's no spacer in there you're saying. I haven't had it apart in so long I can't remember. What's the going rate on a set of Fusions these days then?

[mowerconsultant]

OK. So what's above the blade there, yet below the spindle housing, is just the end of the spindle shaft? There's no spacer in there you're saying. I haven't had it apart in so long I can't remember. What's the going rate on a set of Fusions these days then?

There are no spacers that I can see, what you are seeing is the spindle shaft.
The Fusion blade you need to buy is part # 795252, check with your dealer for pricing.
You will also need a spacer kit, part # 352542, again, check with your dealer for pricing.

Pj