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AB Lawn Care
11-15-2000, 09:51 PM
In a couple of years we may decide to buy a tractor for snow removal.We have talked to dealers,and think a good start would be a 80-100hp tractor.We would most likely buy an older tractor to start and I am wondering what brand of tractor do you guy's think is the best???Which brands have you have trouble with???We would probably have a blade on the front and a blower on the back.What's your favorite brand?????

Scag48
11-15-2000, 10:59 PM
80 HP is kinda overkill for plowing don't you think? If you gonna blow it, 50 hp would be plenty. I would recommend 4-wd though. It really comes in handy if you are using chains. If you want a snowblower, I would also recommend getting a tractor where you can put a 3 point hitch on the front. That way you can run your 3 ponit blower on the front. If you get a blower, hyd. would be the best for a front mount blower. John deere 7000 series offers a front pto but those are a little pricey. My recommendation for you would be a 50 or 60 HP John Deere tractor with 4-WD, front 3 point hitch, hyd. blower, and a cab for your tractor. Add a blade on the rear and you've got a serious snow moving machine. This system works. We've got a 27 HP
4-WD Kubota with the front blower and a 6 way rear blade. In 4-WD and with chains it will go anywhere. Plenty of power. Blows snow 45 ft. Good Luck.:)

AB Lawn Care
11-15-2000, 11:20 PM
I'm not shure where you live but up here in CANADA we get snow BIG TIME!I would be using it for both commercial and only for the ends of residential drives.I would not want to put that much weight on a residential drive.Up here there are guys using tractor in the range of 50-60hp for commercial parking lots,but I would need somthing that I could depend on for 3 foot storms.Thanks for the input.What's you brand of choice??

Hardy Enterprises
11-16-2000, 12:17 AM
As far as using it for snow I have no clue. I live in Mississippi and around here if the weatherman mentions snow everybody goes home to sit by the fireplace. As far as tractors in general goes I like Kubota. I have a M8200 which is a 80hp that I use to pull a 15' batwing bushhog. It has plenty of power and I have had no problems with it.

Jay

AB Lawn Care
11-16-2000, 11:26 AM
Thanks for the help!Anyone else?

snow
11-16-2000, 12:43 PM
i like the new holland tractors which are bi directional, you could have a snowblower on the back and a plow in front. It has a pto on back for a snowblower, i think i've seen the tractors made by brown bear. Chuck smith mentioned the neck strain, with this tractor you just turn the seat around so u don't need to hurt your neck. I''d look into a bi-directional one because they seem versitale.
Scag48- an 80hp tractor is not overkill for what it's going to be used for. Until you use something don't call it junk. my friend had a 9010 and a 9020 excavator and loved them.



bryan

Scag48
11-16-2000, 08:18 PM
John Deere or Kubota. I think that is your best bet. I thought you were talking about parking lots when you said plowing snow. Then you should get a bigger tractor.

diggerman
11-16-2000, 11:22 PM
I dont think that question can really be answered,I have a JD,Ford,Agco, and have run case tractors.They all are of good quality but if you are buying used you will find a major cost diff between the brands.Here in Iowa we joke alot about green paint and the extra cost especially in used.Also in used each brand has its star and its dog,you will learn some of what these are from cost.Trouble some machines do not hold their value and good ones do.Here Case make a good reasonably priced machine as long as you do not go to old.Ford also has a very good product that can be found for good prices.As for HP, 80 to 100 is what I would choose, anything smaller and you might as well buy two decent pickups instead.I'm assuming that you want this machine for those times when less just won't do.

diggerman
11-16-2000, 11:26 PM
I didn't see the 2wd part,if your going to buy used get 4x4.You will get much more performance out of the machine, and for pushing large quanities of snow it is a must or at least a want.Lots of guys here push snow with 2wd but I can only assume the wish they had 4x4.It needs to be a real 4x4 not front wheel assist.

AB Lawn Care
11-17-2000, 06:33 PM
Thanks for the info diggerman!

Can you tell me which brands are expensive/cheap when it comes to parts???Do the john deere's hold up longer or do people favor them just becouse they use to make excelent machines and have stuck with the brand.

Scag48
11-17-2000, 07:01 PM
I know for a fact that Kubota parts are expensive for me if I had to buy parts. I don't know about the rest of the country. It's probably because there is only one dealer in a 60 mile radius. John Deere has been around forever and I actually think know that you should get a John Deere. I think John Deere is better known in the large tractor category. Kubota I think makes a better compact tractor, just my opinion. Happy hunting.:)

AB Lawn Care
11-17-2000, 07:38 PM
Here is the ultimate tractor for snow-

http://www.ctctel.com/richfarmequip/12.htm

diggerman
11-17-2000, 11:53 PM
Actually my father and I have thought about the bidirectional tractors for snow for years,and I have run several.The older ones are red and yellow and were made by Versitle,the seat swivels inside the cab so the tractor can be driven from either position,this means the machine will travel just as fast in reverse as it does forward.It is interesting because many of the tractors made in Europe like my Agco (which is actually made by Sami Lambroghini Hurley) have the option to be ordered with a permanent rearward facing drivers station. My problem is that when not being used for snow I have very little use for the tractor,the loader is a farm loader and not nearly as productive as my 2TLB or my 3yd RTL.

I find it interesting that often people complain about the cost of parts for certain brands like Cat and John Deere.I have found that they are no more expensive than any other brands and often the parts come quicker.Buying used equipment often comes down to a particular group of machinery that you have found.You could spend months going over every used tractor out there, but the fact is if you find one that fits your criteria and priced well then once it is checked by a qualified nonpartial party it can be bought.Most Cat dealers will check out a machine that is privatly for sale in another part of the country for a fee they then provide you with a report. When we buy equipment it usually comes down to a gut feeling sitting on the machine and working it,listening ,looking and operating.