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[mike]

I give small gifts to my customers at Christmas, cup,pens,etc. I usually put my business name on the item so I can count it as adverising. I have gotten small items from my customers at Christmas, but I expect nothing. Their gift is allowing me to do their lawn. Have a Merry Christmas.

[Mark]

Your right about there lawns are our gift, I get to know my clients very well, We are all on a first name basis. I get a little something every Chirstmas, and i always send all my clients cards. I try and let them know how thankful i am to have their business, and always do the best job i can ,always. Merry Chirstmas to all on the Forum. Marks Mowing Service

[stick9]

Wow. Were both of you guys the suck-ups in school?! Excuse me Mr. teacher-sir, is that a new suit? It looks GREAT!!!!!! Where DID you buy that? GIVE ME A BREAK!! Their gift is allowing me to do their lawn!!!!!!!?!? WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!?!?!? Fellas .. fellas .. This is work, my friends. You do the best you can .. you do a great job.. this is work. You are providing a service, these people NEED the work to be done!! If you didn't cut THEIR lawn, you can cut their neighbors!! Or the neighbor around the block!!!!!! I can tell you by experience .. if you do a fantastic job .. (great cutting, experienced trimming, EDGE EVERY DARN WEEK [INCLUDING CURB], blow ALL cement AND beds WITHOUT causings a wind disaster, AND above all else, service on a regular basis) ... YOU WILL GET MORE ACCOUNTS!!!! AND, the quality of your accounts will improve as well due to the 'pick and choose' method. We turn down AT LEAST 1 account a day .. usually more in the summertime .. how, you may ask? Because we CONSTANTLY DO A PERFECT JOB!!!! This is NOT a GIFT to cut these peoples lawn!!! This is the basic supply and demand curve we all learned about in business class. We provide a phenomenal service, people WANT the service. Really, it's a gift to HAVE US do their lawn .. we're LETTING ourselves cut their lawn .. That's my gift to them!!

Merry Christmas!
STick-niNE

[dhicks]

It cost me about $17.50 per customer this year for a Christmas goodie bag that included a large Yankee candle, log cabin candle topper and a stuffed bear. Remembering my customers at this time of the year is not being a suck-up.

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[Charles]

I do good work for my customers. I never send any of them cards or give them gifts. Maybe I should lol. But my Christmas bonus checks should start arriving soon in the mail anyway. I have thought about sending out cards this year. Still haven't made a decision on that yet. Whatever works for you. I don't think it hurts to send a card. Giving them anything with your company name on it is great for anytime of year, EXCEPT as a christmas gift lol. That would be tacky.

[Vandora Lawn & Landscape]

We probably need to be religiously cautious. I think a "Happy Holidays" card is more appropriate than a "Merry Christmas" card. I've got a number of jewish customers who probably wouldn't like to get a christmas card. Do you???

[landscaper3]

We give out around 100 xmas cards to our customers. Kindness will go a long way and only shine a brighter image on your company unlike others here LOL.

[thelawnguy]

I send out holiday cards to my customers. A select few also get gifts, Italian cookie package from a local bakery to the "shared heritage" customers, and wonderful cheese from http://www.oldtaverncheese.com/index.shtml , (this is the real stuff, not the glue stick crap from swiss colony and others of the same ilk) to my other big dollar customers.

Mr Stone did you recieve your card yet? ;)

[landscaper3]

HEY!!!! Lawnguy can you put me on your list, those cookies sound mmmmmm-good.

[thelawnguy]

Email me a street address and Ill UPS you a box.

Nobody else!!!

[Keith]

We give about half of our customers gifts. We average spending about $25 on each.

[Lanelle]

Remembering customers with a gift at this time of year is a nice way of saying "Thank you for your business". Customers who have been with us for several years must expect that a gift is coming their way, since they often have a gift to give us in exchange! We love those! Sometimes its money or gift certificate, sometimes its a food treat. And then at Girl Scout cookie time, some of the customers receive a fresh box of cookies. That is a big hit with them. Often they call and ask to order more from our resident Scout!

[KirbysLawn]

Originally posted by Vandora Lawn & Landscape
We probably need to be religiously cautious. I think a "Happy Holidays" card is more appropriate than a "Merry Christmas" card. I've got a number of jewish customers who probably wouldn't like to get a christmas card. Do you??? Absolutely not. Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ, that's it, plain and simple. Why send a card at all if the card dodges the purpose of the holiday? Sending a "Happy Holiday" to a Jewish person is still sending them a card at Christmas, they know why the card is there, go ahead and tell them, if not don't send a card.

This is not directed to you directly Vandora, but something that really gets under my skin is people who avoid giving the day, Christmas it due respect. X-mas http://www.unionturf.com/burn.gif..really burns me up, stores are quick to capitalize on Christmas but remove "Christ" from it.

I have a friend who professes to be an atheist but he still celebrates Christmas, how's that? I'm a Christian, I send Christmas cards, not "Holiday" cards, I often add verses inside and place tracts inside also. If they are a understanding customer they will understand your kind gesture.

I'm sure not going to stand before God one day knowing I removed "Christ" from the holiday just to avoid offending someone over money! Could imagine such a vauge card on any other holiday.

Everyone have a great Christmas.

[guntruck]

Well Kirby, that point should be well taken amongst us all!! I agree with that, without CHRIST there would be no holiday, and as you said i too think a good customer would understand.

[Vandora Lawn & Landscape]

Kirby,
Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest christian on my block, but I think if the tides were reversed, and if judaism was the majority religion you would be probably be offended if you recieved a happy haunakuh (sp?) card. I just think tact and consideration are necessary when we do business. Yes, sending out christmas or holiday cards is doing business.

Also, about your friend who celebrates the charity of Christmas, you and I both know that unselfish giving is a major tenet of Christianity. We know your buddy is a closest Christian. :)

[KirbysLawn]

Originally posted by Vandora Lawn & Landscape
Kirby,
Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest christian on my block, but I think if the tides were reversed, and if judaism was the majority religion you would be probably be offended if you recieved a happy haunakuh (sp?) card.

No, I wouldn't be offended, takes a little more than that. If I did have that much of a problem I think I would need to move to a more approprate country. If I lived in a country whose base religion was Judaism, I would not at all be surprised to get a card celebrating that event.

I'm glad to see your a Christian also, then you understand why I say God first, including representing Him first, without embarrassment, guilt, our fear of repercussions. If I loose a customer over a Christmas card, good riddance. Maybe I will be rewarded several times over.

Christians are Gods children. I have children also, I know it would hurt if my children avoided telling people about me or was afraid to mention me on an event such as this for fear of a simple offence. Sorta like having your birthday party and everyone wanting to hide your name and who you are.

Originally posted by Vandora Lawn & Landscape
Also, about your friend who celebrates the charity of Christmas, you and I both know that unselfish giving is a major tenet of Christianity. We know your buddy is a closest Christian.

Giving is a part of Christmas. The unselfish part is the hard part for many, most expect a gift in return when we shouldn't. We personally buy our children gifts, we give a few family members gifts, but that's about it. We concluded years ago it was strange; you by me a $20 gift & I buy you a $20 gift, either of which we may not use or need. The stores make out like bandits, December 26th every heads back to the store to exchange for something better or get their money back, not the real picture of Christmas.

We now have started adopting a needy family each Christmas, for the last 6 or 7 years. Gather gifts & food through our work and deliver them on Christmas eve. Much better than getting presents and a much better portrayal of Christmas.

We did not adopt a family this year due to the load dealing with my fathers death. My wife did go to help at "Operation Christmas Child", opening and sorting gift boxes from all over the world sent for needy children. The load they were sorting the other night was from Mexico, sent here for needy children, amazing huh?

Ray

[dhicks]

TheLawnGuy: Hey I need some cookies too... Perhaps we could get a list of names and do a Secret Santa, thereby, pick a name and send a small gift. Ho-Ho-Ho.

[lawnboy]

Kirby that is an awful thing to say. There are many different religions. Chirstmas is not the only holiday that people celebrate over the holidays. Do you get out into the "real world"? I would be very offended if I was one of your customers and read that post. You should always play it safe. There is also New Years coming up that is a holiday in case you didn't know.

[Chuck Sinclair]

STick-niNE

You need to mellow out guy stop and think about if it weren't for the Customers there would be NO you!

We anit s#** with out them. I gave each customer a card and a box of candy just to let them know i appreciate their biz.

[Twotoros]

I don't make enough money (low money town) on my accts to be giving perks yet the customers in my town act as if I were robbing them . I like about 20% of my customers and would and should at least send a card to them but didn't. When the money starts to flow as it should I will but 'em all a present.

signed , thankless job in Yakima

[dmk395]

Hey Happy Holiday cards can never hurt, just mail them and add a magnetic business card, worst case its good advertising.

[bob]

All my customers get a Christmas card. A handful get a holiday tin with an assortment of pretzels inside. My top customer (over five figures of business) gets a gift certificate for a helicopter ride.

[cclllc]

How many of us get gifts from our customers?

[TGCummings]

Ray,

Do keep in mind that celebration of the Winter Solstice dates back long before the birth of Christ, and is a celebration adopted by religions and cultures around the world, in modern and ancient times. Christians simply adopted the date for their celebrations circa 200 AD. So, to say the celebration this time of year is "a celebration of the birth of Christ, plain and simple" is misleading. For the Christians, that's true, but for many it is not. Happy Holidays is more appropriate in most cases, since the celebration is a composition of all beliefs and religions. Think of it as a show of respect for your customers' individual beliefs as opposed to any type of 'political correctness'...

-TGC

[groundsguy1970]

Dear signed , thankless job in Yakima,


I hope you have a happy holiday and maybe some of your better clients will leave doggy bags on their porch for you.
Good luck in the new year,
GG'70
;)

[strickdad]

Originally posted by stick9
Wow. Were both of you guys the suck-ups in school?! Excuse me Mr. teacher-sir, is that a new suit? It looks GREAT!!!!!! Where DID you buy that? GIVE ME A BREAK!! Their gift is allowing me to do their lawn!!!!!!!?!? WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!?!?!? Fellas .. fellas .. This is work, my friends. You do the best you can .. you do a great job.. this is work. You are providing a service, these people NEED the work to be done!! If you didn't cut THEIR lawn, you can cut their neighbors!! Or the neighbor around the block!!!!!! I can tell you by experience .. if you do a fantastic job .. (great cutting, experienced trimming, EDGE EVERY DARN WEEK [INCLUDING CURB], blow ALL cement AND beds WITHOUT causings a wind disaster, AND above all else, service on a regular basis) ... YOU WILL GET MORE ACCOUNTS!!!! AND, the quality of your accounts will improve as well due to the 'pick and choose' method. We turn down AT LEAST 1 account a day .. usually more in the summertime .. how, you may ask? Because we CONSTANTLY DO A PERFECT JOB!!!! This is NOT a GIFT to cut these peoples lawn!!! This is the basic supply and demand curve we all learned about in business class. We provide a phenomenal service, people WANT the service. Really, it's a gift to HAVE US do their lawn .. we're LETTING ourselves cut their lawn .. That's my gift to them!!

Merry Christmas!
STick-niNE we get several accounts a year from people with this attatude

[Randy Scott]

I don't believe that I should bury my nose up customers you know what. The idea of saying you would be nothing without them is a little strong personally. I don't disagree with appreciating them but you need them just like they need you. For all the money that they may spend all year long on all sorts of things, how many give them gifts. Does the grocery store, or car dealer, pharmacy, your own personal physician, retail stores, or any other expenditures throughout the season give you gifts at Christmas time? I doubt it. I believe a card, or maybe for the larger more prosperous accounts, something nicer can be given, but as far as feeling obligated to do this, I think not. All I can afford this season is to send Holiday cards, if I feel I will lose someone over something like this, let 'em go. I guess I also feel the "Happy Holiday" card will cover everyone. If we are going to allow others into this country and they are free to practice their beliefs, we need to respect that. I'm not saying I necessarily agree, but that is what we live in today. So in closing, whatever your thoughts or beliefs, enjoy this time of year and be glad you are here and can spend time with your loved ones. Nearly three months ago we all had a real eye opener. It is too easy to forget how unlucky some were. We should be glad WE are still able to gather here and shoot the breeze. Happy Holidays to all!

[TGCummings]

Wow, this one was really pulled from the archives! :D

[MOW ED]

From the archives but still relevant.

I don't know about you people but I send out Christmas cards to all of my customers.

When I take on a new customer I do not ask if they are Christian or Jew or Muslim or atheist. I have never had a customer ask me what religion I practice. It doesn't matter.

If I somehow know of their religious affilliation I would send an appropriate card. If I unknowingly offend someone and they take it personally then I don't want them as a customer.


Happy Holidays
(see now that is sensitive to all of us)

[HOMER]

I sent cards last year and never even got a "Thank's for the card" from any of my customers...........it's very doubtful that they'll be getting any from me. Last year was the first year I did it, didn't gain anything and don't expect to lose anything by not sending one this year.

I will not spend 15-25 bucks per customer I can tell you that!

Ray, I agree with most of what you said but.....................If a man tells me he is an atheist he cannot be considered my friend.

[TGCummings]

Originally posted by HOMER
If a man tells me he is an atheist he cannot be considered my friend.

Now that is truly unfortunate...

[lee b]

I wish everyone a wonderful Christmas and my customers too. But, I don't send customers anything {but a bill}, the check is my reward and their's is a job well done. Christmas is a holiday for christians, if you don't believe in Christ, that's fine by me. But, I don't care to hear your dribble about offending anybody else by sending them a Christmas card. If anyone sent me a card on Christmas that didn't represent Christ as the reason for the season, it goes in the trash. Political correctness is destroying the moral fiber of this country, I want no part of it. I agree whole-heartedly with Ray and Homer's point of view.

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by HOMER
If a man tells me he is an atheist he cannot be considered my friend.

Well I guess I won't be paying Homer a visit this winter since I am a "practicing" agnostic.

[Administrator]

Its so easy for one to get under the others skin when you let them know exactally what gets under your skin. ??

[HacMan91]

I agree with you stickdad. Our business has had a tremendous growth this year. I give our clients cards etc every year. Its easy to forget the competition cuts the grass next door or accross the street. So any appreciation to the customer will give an edge.

[Albemarle Lawn]

Or card or I give a little free service to customers that give us referrals

[HOMER]

There are those that are Christians
There are those that are straddling the fence
There are those that are flat out atheist

If you tell me you are atheist then your telling be you are anti-Christian

Anti-Christ

I would then have to consider you a worshipper of Satan.

How would GOD feel about me then.

I have to see him one day you know.

Agnostic, One who doubts the possibility of knowing the existence of GOD

Atheism, Denial of the existence of GOD

Stone, you could still visit. Your just in doubt!

And no it's not unfortunate. What is unfortunate is a closed mind, closed to the truth.

I took what Ray said to heart. If I call you my friend then we do things together, go places, work........blah blah blah.

This I could not do. Do I know people that claim there is no GOD? Sure I do. I don't get my gun and shoot them.....I just pass and re-pass. We don't get chummy.

I'm no saint, and to pass myself off as one would be wrong. I do believe in Jesus Christ, I do believe there is a GOD.........I also believe Satan exists, he has to because it's written in the Bible. I don't think you can mix Christianity and Satanism in a friendly way.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by HOMER


I would then have to consider you a worshipper of Satan.



I would not say I actually worship Satan but I did shake his hand at the HSBC arena.

[SCAPEASAURUSREX]

I try to give most of my customers something , some sort of gift, last year I gave out a nice planter with a poinsetta in it , the year before gift certifs, for a local garden center, ( which went out of business and no one got to use them ) .. This year I am going to give them some sort of evergreens.. and I usually send out cards too.. If I have time to get to it.. LOL

Never , NOt once has a client ever given me anything, no money , no cards , Nada... Oh well..

[1stclasslawns]

The managers of the apartments I do get 2 lbs of Courseys smoked bacon (THE best bacon on earth).

And a couple of others get goodie trays.

Gifts go only to accounts worth over $3000.00 per year

jim

[bobbygedd]

man, it is the customers that feel that i SHOULD be thankful that they LET me cut the lawn, that are the biggest pain in the butt. my customers and i have mutual respect. they thank me for the nice work, i thank them for thier bizness.

[fshrdan]

I don't think you can mix Christianity and Satanism in a friendly way

Homer, Jesus hung out with the street people, whores and bums during his time. That's why the Pharasees hated Him... and ultimately killed Him. IMHO, to have the kind of attitude you have is to limit your efficacy as a Christian.

My father is an outstanding witness, simply because he looks at people with different faiths (or lack thereof) with understanding, acceptance, and love. One of his best friends was a die-hard atheist. It took dad 8 years to succeed in showing this fellow the truth. That's incredible patience!

I don't mean to personally attack your views, but it burns my hide when I hear the kind of crap I heard from the mouths of established leaders like Falwell after the bombing. That's not Christ-like at all.

Daniel

[KirbysLawn]

Daniel good post.

Boy is this a blast from the past!

Stone, you know what "Agnostic" means? Either way, agnostic or not it changes nothing, one day you will meet your maker. Believe it or not, makes no difference now, but it will later. Do you celebrate Christmas?

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by KirbysLawn


Stone, you know what "Agnostic" means? Either way, agnostic or not it changes nothing, one day you will meet your maker. Believe it or not, makes no difference now, but it will later. Do you celebrate Christmas?

MERRY X-MAS

Oh please spare me the fire and brimstone.

I meet my maker on a weekly basis for she lives in a senior hi-rise across town.

My religious convections are none of your business. Most folks who live in my area keep their ideology to themselves and do not wear it on their sleeve.

[groundsguy1970]

An Agnostic will believe it when he sees it....he is neither sure of existence of a creator, but would believe it if shown.

[rixtag]

I would really like to have such a huge, endless pool of customers from which to choose like you guys. I wish that I was so great and powerful that I could afford to drop customers and potentially great relationships because I did not agree with them , their opinions or their ability to pay.

You say that because of ____ you would not be their friend and because of ____ you would drop them like a hot rock and because you didn't make enough money from them you would not give them the time of day.

I believe that you reap what you sow. All I am hearing is me-me-me! I am not sure about all of this selfishness but the way I was raised is to give regardless of THEIR beliefs.

Give regardless of whether you will recieve.

Give because it makes you feel better for having done so.

I would suppose that some of you would only loan money if YOU thought the cause was enough, not the person you are loaning it to.

I am really disappointed in some of you for the self-centered display I have just read.

I am sad to hear this from what I considered to be a pretty good bunch of guys.

That is all I am going to say.

:( :(

Rick

[HOMER]

Dang,

I go away for a couple days.........come back and we're still on the subject!

Not to toot my own horn but I consider myself a very generous guy. I find time to do the right things and hurt when I see things that are being done to others that shouldn't be.

Religion is a choice. I choose to believe there is a Jesus. I also choose to believe that Satan was kicked out of Heaven for trying to run the show.......so I have read.

If GOD wanted to socialize with satan He could have kept him in there..............I'm just trying to lead by example.:blob2:

Just because I won't go out of my way to befriend an atheist doesn't make me a bad guy. I just choose not to. If that same atheist was about to be mugged or shot I'm sure I'd jump in and help him if I could.........if he was out of gas on the side of the road I would stop and give him what I had in my can BUT I DANG SURE AIN'T GOING TO ONE OF THEM MEETINGS WITH HIM AND WATCH THE IDIOTS SACRIFICE SOME POOR SAP!

I think I've stated my position for the final frickin' time..........like it or not!

[bobbygedd]

i like it

[TGCummings]

Fair enough.

Now that I think about it, I don't have a whole lot of Christian friends, either. I prefer honest people. ;)

[lee b]

Homer, I agree with you, but you have to remember that most people have been brainwashed by political correctness. You're not supposed to judge anyone for any reason, everything every body does is supposed to be ok........ The one thing a man can do is choose his friends, and I think a man's friends say alot about his character. I'm sorry if it offends you, because I don't think I could be friends with an atheist either.

[James234]

Some of the comments made by Kirby and Homer are not taught by the Christian faith. Love thy neighbor comes to mind. It doesn't say, "Love thy neighbor, unless he's an atheist, then you can hate him all you want". You guys have demonstrated yourselves to be bigoted religious zealots. Seems to me the USA is currently hunting down guys with ideas similar to yours. The USA was founded in part on the idea of freedom of (and from) religion. In truth you are being anti-American if you criticize anyone for practicing their own religious (or non religious) beliefs. Also, from a legal standpoint you can't discriminate against folks because of religion or lack thereof either in clients or hiring help. You are running a business, not a religious organization. You guys seem to be big lawsuits just waiting to happen!

[TGCummings]

Yikes, this is getting ugly...

Okay, I agree with this guy in spirit but not in attitude, 'kay? ;)

Now, let's change the subject and, if we can't all be friends because of my propensity for "human sacrifice" (we do this at all the atheist meetings, by the way!), we can at least remain civil. :angel:

Still love ya, Homey!

[1MajorTom]

Landscaper3 Quote: HEY!!!! Lawnguy can you put me on your list, those cookies sound mmmmmm-good.
Lawnguy Quote: Email me a street address and Ill UPS you a box.
Nobody else!!!

Hey Bill, that was last year. Just wanting to know what lucky Lawnsite member(s) you are going to send them to this year. :laugh:


On the serious side: This is getting way off topic. Let's get this commerical forum thread back on track. Thanks.

[lee b]

I don't believe anybody said anything about hating atheists. Not being friends does not equate with hate. James 234, don't you choose who your friends are? What's un-American about practicing free speech? I choose my clients as well as my friends and if I don't like a client, I have the right not to work for him, for whatever reasons I choose. You seem to miss the real reason America was founded - FREEDOM - to do whatever I want [within the law], when I want, and choose my friends as I SEE FIT, not to your satisfaction but mine. I don't have to abide by your ideals, but mine and those of God as I percieve them, that is FREEDOM. Talk about political correctness run amuck.......:angry:

[fshrdan]

Okay, sorry to get back on the subject, but I just mailed out Christmas cards to all my customers. I'm too cheap to do gifts, though. Maybe when profits are higher...

Last year I got gifts from 2 customers. One gave me a nice button down and one gave me a basket of cheese and stuff. I thought that was real nice. Maybe they realize I'm worth more than I charge:cool:

[James234]

Freedom! Yes, you are correct, up to the very point you made about being within the law. Based upon your remarks (in a public forum that goes around the world for anyone to read) and some of the other remarks made, you are just marking yourself as a business ready to go to court for discrimination. You can pick your nose and your friends. It wasn't too many years ago that some folks said that they had the "freedom" not to serve blacks. Your freedom comes with responsiblity. Freedom does not allow you to be a bigot.

[TGCummings]

I've been meaning to start doing Holiday cards, and I thought this was going to be the year, but I just didn't get around to it. I'll need to start planning further ahead next year for this.

I generally get a little 'gift package' from about a half dozen customers, and a bonus check from another 6-12 totalling $100-$300 dollars. Got my first one yesterday for $40. ;)

[rixtag]

I send cards to all customers, yes even the ones that cancel their contract.

It is a token of appreciation for the income they provided to my business and my family regardless of how much or little it might be.

Rick

[AltaLawnCare]

Bac to the subject at hand,...before this post gets closed or deleted.

I sent out christmaas cards - one of the major benefits of running your own business is that you can make these calls.

I got a card from one of my customers, who I picked up late in the season, it said...

"Merry Christmas, Congratulations on a job well done."

That meant a lot to me, I hope when they picked my card out of the mail box it meant as much to them. :D

[Lawn Dog2001]

I always sent out holiday cards in the past. This year i sent out desk calenders. I always receive a few cards back from the customers Im closer with. Some send a little bonus to.

What ever I send, it always says Happy Holidays. This way I cant offend anyone. Even if someone is an athiest, they cant deny its the holiday season. All Im doing is wishing them a happy one.

[Mowin4cash]

Originally posted by Vandora Lawn & Landscape
We probably need to be religiously cautious. I think a "Happy Holidays" card is more appropriate than a "Merry Christmas" card. I've got a number of jewish customers who probably wouldn't like to get a christmas card. Do you???


All of mine get a Christmas card. That's what the season is all about right? If they don't like it, tough!

Mike

[HOMER]

Somebody needs to re-read my last post on this subject...........oops..........it WAS supposed to be my last one until I was called a bigot.:blob4:

I wuv you.............and you................and you..............and you

heck..................I wuv evweebuddy...............I don't care who u is..................I jus wuvs you.

Bin Laden............I wuv u too................go ahead.kill more of us. I'm suppose to wuv you for doing that 9/11 thing.

Come on folks, I think we better stop while we're ahead don't you.

We all have our own inner thoughts and to reveal them on this public forum that is designed to discuss lawn care issues is a little crazy.

So for my last and final comment (I guarantee it) I would like to say that I'm truly sorry (trying to be politically correct) if I Offended any members religious belief or personal views.

I still WUV EVERYBODY.................Ya'll are my little Homeys;)

All of you are welcome at the Homey Hotel any time you are in town!

I still wuv u too TG!

Stone...........practicing "antagonistic" or not.............look me up if you get close to southeast Alabama............meeting you would be a HOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

I'm now officially closing this thread, so don't come back.

Oh, I can't do that can I?

bigot my azz:blob2: