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mexiking
05-27-2004, 11:13 PM
Well guys, I just installed this little design for a customer of mine. What do you guys think??? All comments good and or bad are Welcome.

mexiking
05-27-2004, 11:14 PM
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mexiking
05-27-2004, 11:15 PM
The Angellos Plant List

Symbol Qty Plant Name Size

HC
2
Spruce Spirals
5 Gal

WH
3
Winterberry Holly
7 Gal

BX
4
Dwarf Boxwood
3 Gal

MFA
2
Mountain Fire Andromeda
4 Gal

GS
2
Goldflame Spirea
3 Gal

VRD
1
Variegated Red Twig Dogwood
3 Gal

KGH
1
King George Heather
2 Gal

Hosta
2
Hosta August Moon
2 Gal

GJ
1
Groundcover Juniper
3 Gal

Gj
2
GC Juniper Blue Rug
3 Gal

BNS
3
Birds Nest Spruce
4 Gal

MG
2
Maiden Grass
3 Gal

CC
15
impatients

mexiking
05-27-2004, 11:17 PM
Those pics were of the Left Side... This is of the Right side. Oh and I forgot some dwarf euynomous and 2 hydrangeas on the plant list.

hole in one lco
05-27-2004, 11:24 PM
looks good My only suggestion to you is to plant the begonia or impatiens in clumps not as a border just my personal preference tho

mexiking
05-27-2004, 11:26 PM
impatients grow nicely the way I put them, well at least I like them like that.

ElephantNest
05-28-2004, 12:24 AM
Looks great! Keep up the good work,

o-so-n-so
05-28-2004, 08:19 PM
Red mulch is not for me. I have customers that have it and thats ok. Not my favorite color of mulch though........




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WeatherMan
05-28-2004, 08:23 PM
Looks good will look great at the end of the summer when the plants grow up.

NNJLandman
05-28-2004, 08:36 PM
Looks good my man, i can't wait till my install Im working on now is done so I can post some pictures. Keep up the good work....did you do the walkway n stuff there too?

Jeff

mexiking
05-28-2004, 09:29 PM
yeah nnj thanks and weatherman, they wouldnt take any other mulch but red.

dvmcmrhp52
05-28-2004, 09:35 PM
Mexiking,
I think ya done good.
The only thing I would have done differently would be to put something smaller in front of the window on the right side.
Keep up the good work.

GreenMonster
05-28-2004, 09:38 PM
Looks good king.

Sorry, I hate red mulch too. I try to steer folks away from it -- I don't want to be seen forkin' it!:o

Nice install.
:)

landscapingpoolguy
05-30-2004, 10:08 AM
right side looks good because it looks filled in and mature...left side looks a little bare...i prolly would have done more foundation planting......the spiral albertas are nice but a pain to prune.....they will grow out soon enuff.....I think a water feature of some sort on the left would look nice too

Chuck

paponte
05-30-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by dvmcmrhp52
Mexiking,
I think ya done good.
The only thing I would have done differently would be to put something smaller in front of the window on the right side.
Keep up the good work.

I would have to agree, especially under the second story overhang. Might have some problems there.

mexiking
05-30-2004, 06:47 PM
That dwarf jap maple was already there, Ill post the before pics. Were going to transplant that jap maple somewhere else in the fall or early spring.

landscapingpoolguy
05-31-2004, 05:10 PM
i would leave it there it looks good

Chuck

ShadyTree
05-31-2004, 11:54 PM
I am a landscape architect, and personaly i think its way to spotty. There is no plant massing and the transitions for plants are off. rather then use a bunch of different plants keep it simple and play with color. dont be afraid to pack it in there. As the plants grow some will die off and thats fine, in the beginning stages those are filler plants to make it look full. as it grows it will naturally kill off some but it will still look full. Research you plant material and pay attention to the mature growth.
But other then that, keep at it, and good luck on your other projects.
ShadyTree

blafleur
06-01-2004, 12:12 AM
All of our theories about design dont overrule the customers desires. The most important thing is, what do they think of it?

Bryan

BCSteel
06-01-2004, 12:29 AM
Oh ya, thats just what people want to hear, pack them in there because some are going to get crowded out and die.

I think that it looks good and is easy to maintain.

ShadyTree
06-01-2004, 01:39 PM
you normally dont tell people that, its just for the designer to know, so the plantings dont look real spotty in the beginning stages

jajwrigh
06-01-2004, 08:43 PM
Looks good, but personally I don't care for red mulch...great work though!!

mexiking
06-01-2004, 10:10 PM
thanks for the input everyone
personally I like it, the only thing I would change is the type of Holly and go for an evergreen one next time and not a decidious. The only good thing about those is the winter color that itll have

Henry
06-02-2004, 08:14 PM
I like the winterberry hollies but I think they are in the wrong place. They'll probably cover that window in a couple years.

mexiking
06-02-2004, 09:41 PM
yeah ... they need yearly pruning

daveyo
06-02-2004, 11:25 PM
Looks good, we do jobs that size alot, if you don't mind what was your total costs and profit, i.e man hours ect..

Daveyo
Landscape design

mexiking
06-02-2004, 11:33 PM
-removal of existing shrubs $400
-Installation $700
-Other fees $150
-Plants $1200 was quoted got them for $1000
-Profit of 15% = 367.50

Bid: $2800

mexiking
06-02-2004, 11:48 PM
all done in like 7 hours with 4 guys

prizeprop
06-04-2004, 10:39 PM
You need to make more money on these installs, just think of the time you put in for meeting with the client, your design and then your presentation to the client. Also take into account your time at the garden center purchasing your materials and if you offer a garauntee on plant survival; if just one of your larger priced specimens dies, there goes a third of your profit. If you do lawn maintenance do you profit more than $367 a day? You probably do, so why go through the work of an install if you make more cutting grass etc. Put at least a $1000.00 in your pocket for a job of this size.This way you can pay yourself $367 and put the $633 back into the business for equiptment.Especially in NJ ,the market will bear it! Just some advise, please dont take it the wrong way. Thats what were here for.

mexiking
06-05-2004, 01:19 AM
100 per day labor on each guy
= $400 dollars
plants $1000
thats $1400
Rest is for company , equipment , etc
which is $1400, i dont think its bad.

ckf
06-05-2004, 10:52 AM
ShadyTree,

I am also a LA and would never think of doing something like that! That is simply absurd to even think of that!! If you're design is done properly, it will grow with time and that should be stated to the client. If they want it to be full immediately, then use mature plant material and adjust pricing accordingly. If the client can't afford that, then explain it to them. One of the first things I was taught was to NOT overcrowd which is just common sense. I mean come on now, jam a bunch of things in to make it look full? What will you tell the client when things start to die? Unfortunately, you are the type of LA that gives the rest of us a bad name as in we have no common sense just book smarts. Give me a break!

Mexiking,

Looks good but some of the plants should have been placed in different locations as well as different variations. Great job though.

Chris

mexiking
06-05-2004, 03:11 PM
hey thanks ckf... This was my first design after finishing my landscaping certificate. I need more experience doing this. Where in North Jersey do you work? Whats the name of the company? And I also not agree to over plant... If you plant correctly the plants shouldn't die... I agree with all that you said

prizeprop
06-05-2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by mexiking
100 per day labor on each guy
= $400 dollars
plants $1000
thats $1400
Rest is for company , equipment , etc
which is $1400, i dont think its bad. No, $1400 IS GOOD. I agree. I guess I just misunderstood, I thought you said profit was $367.

mexiking
06-05-2004, 11:49 PM
well , I just added that, because thats how they recommend doing it in school (15% profit) but in reality it was 1400 other than the expenses i mentioned