Wright Stander cooking my feet.

[morin3]

I bought a new Wright 36" Stander on Monday of this week, began mowing with it and have loved it. On Wednesday I carried it back to the dealer to have the cutting depth lowered. Got it back from the dealer and used it on Thursday and after mowing only a short time I noticed that both feet where getting hot.
Has anyone else had or noticed this problem? Had no problem with hot feet before the cuttting depth was lowered.

RLM

[Likestomow]

You might have gotten one of the new Bar-B-Q editions by mistake. Put steaks on that grill, not feet!

[dishboy]

I don't think I would stand for that!

[brucec32]

LOL at that pun.

When you have to take a mower to the dealer to lower the cut height, I think it's time for a redesign. (I know you don't have to, but it is daunting for someone without much experience with mowers, at least compared to moving 4 pins)

I have read other reports of burned shins, etc, from the hydro position.

I feel the stander is an innovative design that can really speed up things on certain types of properties. But it has had some significant flaws that haven't, perhaps through arrogance and pride (no amateur can tell me my design is flawed! ) , been rectified in the many years its been out. I really WANT one, but can't pull the trigger yet with the problems that exist. For example:

1. fixed deck design limits ease of height adjust, range of adjust, and precise adjustment of proper deck pitch angle. Chop n' drop mowing doesn't require such precision, but the very properties the Stander is likely to be used on (smaller, higher quality turf) sure do. Fixed decks are also more difficult to get over the crest of a trailer ramp, and impossible to get up a steeper ramp into the back of a truck. Nobody wants a mower that hangs up on the trailer ramp. A walk behind you can safely pop up the front end on to solve that problem. Not really the case with the stander, unless you're really experienced with it.

2. Safety control in foot plate instead of handles means you can't walk it when you need to in wet situations while still mowing. Also has led to reports of engine cutting off or stuttering on rough terrain. Would add greatly to the machine's utility and versatility.

3. ABYSMAL blade pitch speed of 15,700rpm on 48" models, and less than optimal on some others. Wouldn't a simple pulley change fix this guys? If you have to slow down to mow cleanly, you're losing a lot of that productivity the stander gives you.

4. Until just this year, no real mulch kit, and still no custom designed blades made to work with this deck design. I'd like to see a real commitment to mulching quality. Not having to bag saves more time than any other single mower design feature.

5. Narrow tires on 36" models cause rutting/tracking problems and also traction/turf damage problems in turns. A narrow platform to stand on is preferable to a mower that destroys lawns in certain conditions. At the very least make wider wheels/tires (even if they stick out too far to get through 36" gates) an OPTION. I feel the smaller standers make the most sense, it'd be nice to know they will leave all lawns looking like they were mowed by a walk behind mower.

6. Mixed reports on quality/distance of discharging w/o clumping.

7. Website that was ok for 5 years ago, but many one-man companies here on lawnsite have better and more complete ones than does Wright Mfg.

The advantage the stander has of not having to tow around a sulky is a big one. Seems a shame to muck up the easy to fix stuff on it.

[locutus]

Bruce32, What specifically dont you like about Standers? LOL:D

[Fareway Lawncare]

Well Said Bruce!

The Stander's Need Floating Decks & Adjustable Controls to enable WalkBehind Mode in Soft Turf...

[Likestomow]

A Stander with an adjustible deck isn't possible, but a Sentar that works like a Stander... well that IS possible!

[J.Gordon]

Bruce very well said, you just explained the reason I didn’t buy a stander! If they improve their design I will buy one.
Likestomow if they made a 36’’ Sentar. lol

[Burger]

brucec32, don't sugar coat it man, tell us how you really feel.

[MacLawnCo]

Bruce, until you run one for any length of time, keep your opinions to your self please.

[barringtonbrothers]

Mac I dont run them but I have friends who do, and I see work done by other companies who use them. After looking at the standers for 2 years now deciding on my next purchase, I agree with every thing bruce said. Sure I would like to stand on a mower as opposed to a wb, but the limitations of the stander out ways the advantages in my eye. I dont have to buy crap before I call it crap. I can tell from experince what works and what doesnt, and Im not calling wright crap, it doesnt do bad, just not as good as I think it should for the price. And those are my OPINONS Mac, and I dont keep them to my self.

[geogunn]

bruce--did you say you had a stander? please respond. thanks.

GEO

[Fareway Lawncare]

You only need to have run fiXed deck Walks & run the Stander Once on a Small Lawn w/Wet Turf to make the observations Bruce Made....Good Call Bruce!

A 36" Sentar is in the Works!

[Itsgottobegreen]

morin3-were wearing sandals or something? If it was a hot day, and you foot was right against the wheel motor you might feel a little warm.

Bruce- Lawn wright (the mowing company Bill Wright owned before Wright MFG) bagged lawns, never mulch. (why they built the grassgobbler in the first place) So they never really developed one, until people asked for it. The 36" is getting redesigned from what I was told, to solve the narrow tire problem. Also I can change my mowing height, from 1" to 4.5" by myself with only hand tools and a Jungle Jack. Takes about 30 minutes to do so.

Most people who bad mouth the stander, have never owned or operated on for some time. I mean more than 50 hours of use. Every one I have talk to that owns one loves it. For all the good reasons to buy one. Wright has only been building them since 1998. The 2004 models are completely different. They are still improving the machines.

[TClawn]

I would not buy a stander because you standing on the machine and therefore more force is being put on the ground through the wheels unlike a walkbehind with a sulky where its the walk behinds weight and the your weight on the sulky so its more spread out and won't rut as much in wet terrain

[specialtylc]

Originally posted by MacLawnCo
Bruce, until you run one for any length of time, keep your opinions to your self please.
EVERYTHING you read on this site is someones OPINON.:blob3:

[Easy Way Lawn Care]

I own a 36" stander have only about 19 hours on it. (bought it this year). I love it. No rutting problems, does a 180 turn without turfing a bit (unless your not careful) actually I have noticed that it has less turf potential then my 52" bobcat with wider tires. It is extremely agile and does a very nice cut. With a jungle jack I can adjust from 2.5 to 3.0 in less then two minutes. I have no need to adjust more then that. Less maintenence (only one belt to run the whole deal instead of three) If I had it to do all over again I would by a stander and a sentar. I would much rather ride on a stander all day then walkbehind a mower. less fatique. I also have noticed that those who have never owned one complain about them. They do have a bit of a learning curve but thats about it. I do just small yards and small areas with it and its a dream. Actually it helped pull my bobcat out when I had gotten it stuck.

[morin3]

Originally posted by Itsgottobegreen
morin3-were wearing sandals or something? If it was a hot day, and you foot was right against the wheel motor you might feel a little warm.

Bruce- Lawn wright (the mowing company Bill Wright owned before Wright MFG) bagged lawns, never mulch. (why they built the grassgobbler in the first place) So they never really developed one, until people asked for it. The 36" is getting redesigned from what I was told, to solve the narrow tire problem. Also I can change my mowing height, from 1" to 4.5" by myself with only hand tools and a Jungle Jack. Takes about 30 minutes to do so.

Most people who bad mouth the stander, have never owned or operated on for some time. I mean more than 50 hours of use. Every one I have talk to that owns one loves it. For all the good reasons to buy one. Wright has only been building them since 1998. The 2004 models are completely different. They are still improving the machines.

I was wearing hiking boots with leather sides and edges and fabric across the instep. At first I thought my feet where resting against the wheel motors but this was not the case. The heat is coming from the two hydraulic pumps above my feet.

I have ran the stander a little over ten hours and I love it. Fast, maneuverable and agile. I tested it thoroughly the short time I ran it on ditch banks, on inclines, around tree roots and other tight places. It never let me down.

RLM

[GREEN ACRES L&L]

No problems with my feet getting hot. 1350 hrs on my stander and I think it is great. I have no complaints, the deck adjustments do take a little time but it's not a big deal.

[wojo23323]

My feet don't get hot at all. Height adjustments are just fine for me. 2 3/4" - 3 3/4". No problems with rutting on my 36". It might rub on the trailer ramp every now and then. It has a mulch plate which works OK. Discharge and bagging work awesome with great stripes. We will be changing to all Standers in the future.

[timinkc]

bruce...i wish more people on lawnsite would lay out their views as concisely, and clearly as you did...that was a great post.

[energy]

wow it's been a while since i last posted, but some things never change like bickering. those that have it (me) know what is up. those that dont have it and watching all the other guys use them (maybe you) dont have a clue. Anyone with a walk behind that has pistol grips ever bust your knuckles on a post or wall? Ever try to do reverse with a one wheel velky? Do a zero turn on a dime and completely be able to rotate on the tremendous short length of the mower? Fit 4 36" on a 6' X 10' trailer? Ruts? Lessen the pressure or lose some weight. Hills, you lean to one side, press your shins on the loop bar that is padded. Height change, do it off your ramp of the trailer (less than 1 minute). Feet getting hot? What isnt getting hot in the sun? Blade switch, you can figure some way to disable. Quality of cut? The best i have seen with proper tire inflation. Quality of machine? Shake the thing and you will know how well it is built. Actually i shouldnt of posted this post because i really dont care if you like it or dont like it, but to degrade something because of inexperience or lack of knowledge is why i post.

[brucec32]

Originally posted by MacLawnCo
Bruce, until you run one for any length of time, keep your opinions to your self please.

How do you get your stander into bed at night? I assume you sleep with yours, Mac.

Remember.

1. YOU didn't design it.

2. YOU can't take credit for it.

3. It isn't your girlfriend, you don't have to defend it's honor.

4. Just because someone points out a flaw in it doesn't mean you're a bad person for choosing one.

5. I note that you were unable to refute any of the points I made.

6. I haven't slept with an ugly woman either, but I know one when I see one.

And finally, you can't, through the safety the internet affords you, tell people to "shut up", when if you did it in person, they'd twist your arm behind you back, dunk your head in the toilet, and make you cry "uncle".

You come off as really immature and childish when you run around crying when anyone criticises your baby in any way. You're not supposed to care about them that much, it's unnatural.

[brucec32]

Yet again I see that many here don't have the reading comprehension skills to read with precision and clarity. They scan a line, decide they've read enough, and get started on that reply.

Nobody says it's a bad mower. Just that it has several characteristics, some of which seem very easy to change, that require improvement before I buy one.

Nobody said you CAN'T change mowing height, only that it isn't as convenient. One example given said "only takes me 2 minutes". Ha! How about 2 seconds on other mowers with a pedal or handle operated height adjust?

I seriously doubt though, that anyone happy with the fixed deck is mowing at 2" then having to drive it up a normal length trailer ramp. Otherwise, they'd know it would tend to hang up at the top unless you popped a wheelie. Maybe mowing at 3.5" it clears, but we don't all mow the same grasses, now, do we?

Did it ever occur to you guys with no heat problems that the guy carefully explained that he had the rear axle/hydros height setting adjusted and THAT is when the heat problems started? Obviously the change put them closer to his feet!

Nobody ever said the Stander isn't better than other mowers at some things. That's why I was shopping for them.

How is a 15,700 fpm blade tip speed "better" ? I had a chance to buy one at a very low price, but that feature right there stopped me. I was willing to work with the other things. I have mowed enough grass to know that I hate it when a mower won't handle all situations, not just ideal ones.

Try cresting a berm with your fixed deck mower, then crest one on a ZTR with an 'on the fly" height adjust lever, and tell me you're not losing time having to mow around the problem instead of just lifting the deck as you mow and never missing a beat. But wait, I forgot, you're so special and smart you can mow them w/o any time loss having to cut off the blades and restart them as you crest hills, maneuver to never crest a hill, etc.

I HAVE a fixed deck mower. They have their place, but they're certainly not superior for what I need a mower for.

Anyone who doesn't value the ability to hop off and walk it over a really bad patch while mowing is obviously mowing very well landscaped and drained places. Once again, I note an inability of some people to visualize the fact that lawns everywhere in America are not the same, grasses are not the same, and needs are not the same. This falls into the same area as advice like "GET A 72" mower, everything else is a waste" from guys on the great plains who mow 5 acre rectangles of flat land"

You can point out a bunch of problems with my Lazer Z or Toro wb's and I don't care a bit. I KNOW they're not perfect. I read an article in one of the turf mags that said Standers (of all brands) are 3% of the market. By your thinking I guess 97% of us are just stupid. Does it ever occur to you that if they fixed the items I mentioned they might just sell more of them? And based on the replies I read, that would probably send you into orgasm.

Look up the definition of "Chauvanism"

[MacLawnCo]

Bruce,

ill ask you this: have you demoed one on all your props?

ive never said the stander was the best thing ever and that you had to like it.

I have said that, for me and my operation, it fits like a glove.
If you search hard enough, you would have also seen that i didnt care for my 48" cut quality. JimV said that wright knows the 48 BTS is slow and they plan to increase it, but its not a priority.

The thing here that is important to remember is that IMO, the stander isnt to replace a Z, but rather replace a WB. For me, it does that very well. Thats all ive got.

And yes, if the stander was a floating deck i would probably just cream my pants.

[DLCS]

Originally posted by brucec32
How do you get your stander into bed at night? I assume you sleep with yours, Mac.

Remember.

1. YOU didn't design it.

2. YOU can't take credit for it.



Bruce32,


You sure about that seems like Maclawn and jim Wright might be one in the same.:p

[Kelly's Landscaping]

How much longer till they come out with the hover mower and end the obsolete wheel mowers reign once and for all?

[MacLawnCo]

Bruce, just for your amusament, ill attempt to refudiate your OBSERVATIONS. Originally posted by brucec32
1. fixed deck design limits ease of height adjust, range of adjust, and precise adjustment of proper deck pitch angle. Chop n' drop mowing doesn't require such precision, but the very properties the Stander is likely to be used on (smaller, higher quality turf) sure do.
In your area, floating decks may be an advantage but all my turf, fescue and blue, like being cut at 3". :)
Originally posted by brucec32
Fixed decks are also more difficult to get over the crest of a trailer ramp, and impossible to get up a steeper ramp into the back of a truck. Nobody wants a mower that hangs up on the trailer ramp. A walk behind you can safely pop up the front end on to solve that problem. Not really the case with the stander, unless you're really experienced with it.
As with anything, it takes practice. You cant ride a bike well instantly, but with practice it sure is faster than walking. :)

Originally posted by brucec32
2. Safety control in foot plate instead of handles means you can't walk it when you need to in wet situations while still mowing. Also has led to reports of engine cutting off or stuttering on rough terrain. Would add greatly to the machine's utility and versatility.
That switch is adjustable to allow for some movement prior to cutting out. Ive yet to encounter situations where i wanted to get off and walk. Like you said, this machine is for "(smaller, higher quality turf)" and you're unlikely to encounter situations requiring dismount. Again, demo one to realize their true capabilities. :)

Originally posted by brucec32
3. ABYSMAL blade pitch speed of 15,700rpm on 48" models, and less than optimal on some others. Wouldn't a simple pulley change fix this guys? If you have to slow down to mow cleanly, you're losing a lot of that productivity the stander gives you.
As i said, Wright is aware that on that particular model its slow. :)

Originally posted by brucec32
4. Until just this year, no real mulch kit, and still no custom designed blades made to work with this deck design. I'd like to see a real commitment to mulching quality. Not having to bag saves more time than any other single mower design feature.
The mulch kit is available now. Why live in the past? Again, demo one to see how it works. I dont know cus i havnt and neither do you. (my whole point to this response.) :)

Originally posted by brucec32
5. Narrow tires on 36" models cause rutting/tracking problems and also traction/turf damage problems in turns. A narrow platform to stand on is preferable to a mower that destroys lawns in certain conditions. At the very least make wider wheels/tires (even if they stick out too far to get through 36" gates) an OPTION. I feel the smaller standers make the most sense, it'd be nice to know they will leave all lawns looking like they were mowed by a walk behind mower.
As you have requested oh Bruce, they are bowing to your request. :)

Originally posted by brucec32
6. Mixed reports on quality/distance of discharging w/o clumping.
Yet again, a demo would alow you to see for yourself. Just make sure it is dialed in just as your mowers are for a fair comparison. (sorry PJ if you see this) :)

Originally posted by brucec32
7. Website that was ok for 5 years ago, but many one-man companies here on lawnsite have better and more complete ones than does Wright Mfg.
you know, thats an excellent reason not to purchase a lawn mower. Thanks for pointing that out. I think ill go get rid of my standers for that reason alone. NOT. :)

Originally posted by brucec32
The advantage the stander has of not having to tow around a sulky is a big one. Seems a shame to muck up the easy to fix stuff on it.
Have you demoed one to see if your observations are correct? I own them and know. you dont. :)

[Fareway Lawncare]

Bruce is Pretty Much Bang On!

I demoed one & it Does Many things Well but Needs Refinement....The Walk feature is Needed for soft turf... Very Small Lawns w/Lots of Z-Turning...The only Way you Can't see the Benefits of a Floater is if you own a fiXed...I own Both!

Regardless I'd still buy a Stander because they are so Dang Fun to Ride!

[Itsgottobegreen]

Mac I was going to state the same things. But you got it perfectly right. A stander is almost a hydro walk behind, with a built in velke. Its not a ZTR replacement. But it can keep up with one. (thats what the sentar was built for) It fills the void between walk behind and ZTR.

Bruce Stop busting on the stander, you don't own one, so keep your opinions to yourself. Let the people who own them state any minor problems that exists. There are very few of them, most have been fixed. Seems like everyone that keeps stating problems who don't own one or operated one for some time, are stating the same problems that they had seen other people stated before. Which most aren't even a problem in the first place. Just someone else's opinion.

[J.Gordon]

It sounds like Bruce was just stating some valid facts. His opinions are respected by a lot of the LS members. I guess if you own a stander then all you say about them is true? Kind of like my stander can handle a 45-degree slope with no problem. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I may buy a 36’’ Stander in the future because of they are so compact, but it would be real nice if it has a floating deck!
Jeff

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by MacLawnCo
Bruce, until you run one for any length of time, keep your opinions to your self please.



you dont need to run one for an extended time to see some of its faults just by looking at one.
i demo'ed one last year for a week and have the same opinion.

[EastProLawn]

Originally posted by QuadRacer041
you dont need to run one for an extended time to see some of its faults just by looking at one.
i demo'ed one last year for a week and have the same opinion. A week ? Wow, that's along time. I have a stander and all I can say about it is "Awesome", it took some time to get comfortable with it, but now I love it and it does an awesome job PERIOD.

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by EastProLawn
A week ? Wow, that's along time. I have a stander and all I can say about it is "Awesome", it took some time to get comfortable with it, but now I love it and it does an awesome job PERIOD.


well good for u, works for some, but not for me

how long do u think a dealer will let u semo a machine anyway..:rolleyes:

[brucec32]

It'sgonnabegreen, I think your avatar says it all in terms of your ability to be objective and think rationally about mower design.

How long till you guys start putting "piss on ......." stickers on your trucks like Chevy and Ford owners?

And based on your logic.....let me just say this....quit busting on me. You don't own me. You haven't demo'd me. Leave it to my wife, who does, to criticise me. : )

See how silly you sound?

[EastProLawn]

Originally posted by QuadRacer041
well good for u, works for some, but not for me

how long do u think a dealer will let u semo a machine anyway..:rolleyes: Once again, I can see that I have run into someone with a reasoning problem, I was not stating that the dealer will or will not let anyone demo a machine forever, I was simply stating that a week is not sufficient time to completely understand a machine and be able to pass judgement. On another note, just about anyone who's forms an opinion usually starts the sentence off like such " I like ____ brand because I have been using them for years. " ( not weeks )
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it does'nt mean it's the right opinion. So please people, be a little open minded.

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by EastProLawn
Once again, I can see that I have run into someone with a reasoning problem, I was not stating that the dealer will or will not let anyone demo a machine forever, I was simply stating that a week is not sufficient time to completely understand a machine and be able to pass judgement. On another note, just about anyone who's forms an opinion usually starts the sentence off like such " I like ____ brand because I have been using them for years. " ( not weeks )
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it does'nt mean it's the right opinion. So please people, be a little open minded.


what are you talking about, reasoning problem.
i didnt say its a peice of $hit, lookin the the quote u posted of me............. works for some but not for me.
...and like someone else stated before...some people think that because they own a certain machine they think its the best thing out there and if someone doesnt agree they are crazy.:rolleyes:

[EastProLawn]

Originally posted by QuadRacer041
you dont need to run one for an extended time to see some of its faults just by looking at one.
i demo'ed one last year for a week and have the same opinion. I guess you don't even read your own posts.

I "simply" stated that a week is too short to pass judgement, I never argued what machine is better, I "simply" said that the Wright Stander is a good machine. So please read as you write, this way you don't come off as a little " slow" c-ya

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by EastProLawn
I guess you don't even read your own posts.

I "simply" stated that a week is too short to pass judgement, I never argued what machine is better, I "simply" said that the Wright Stander is a good machine. So please read as you write, this way you don't come off as a little " slow" c-ya


wow u really got me, you calling me slow is gonna cost me alot of sleep tonight.


c ya

[EastProLawn]

Take a Tylenol PM, I would'nt want you to lose any sleep and become any slower.

[Green Pastures]

I tried to demo before buying a Great Dane stander several seasons ago. When the dealer told me I could demo it in his parking lot and nowhere else I politely declined the demo and the purchase.

It LOOKED like a great deal, but if I cannot try before I buy, there's no need to look any further.

Just my personal experience.

[EastProLawn]

Sorry to hear that, bad customer relations on the dealer's end and ultimately his loss.

[brucec32]

Originally posted by EastProLawn
I guess you don't even read your own posts.

I "simply" stated that a week is too short to pass judgement, I never argued what machine is better, I "simply" said that the Wright Stander is a good machine. So please read as you write, this way you don't come off as a little " slow" c-ya

Wouldn't "slow" be defined as not being able to tell you don't like something the minute you see it doing the stuff you don't like? : )

I don't feel that I have to demo a mower for a week if it's scalping the hell out of a lawn, or discharging poorly, or leaving uncut grass, or whatever. Mowing more grass with it isn't going to change that, assuming the thing is set up and performing to spec. Yes, more time with a machine reveals more about it, but some things you can find out about it w/o owning one.

Claiming someone has to own a Stander to comment on it or point out areas in need of improvement is like feeling that if you see an ugly woman you have to date her for 2 years to figure out that you don't want to marry her. That aspect of her is obvious without more investigation.

The Stander IS a good machine. I may still buy one and live with the imperfections. Every mower has some. The stander has a few serious ones. But nothing anyone has said has changed my mind on my valid criticisms of it. If we all go along and buy whatever they put out, and never ask for improvements, we sure won't get them.

The extreme touchiness I'm witnessing by its proponents ironically has the opposite effect from what they intend. It makes me have to think twice though about the raves I hear. I want to hear rational, reasoned ANALYSIS of a mower from someone who OWNS one, not something more akin to a guy in a bar bragging that his ballteam is better than all the others. Because that advice is coming from their ego being wrapped up in it. "I chose it, therefore it HAS to be the best, because if it's not then I am not the best".

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by brucec32
Wouldn't "slow" be defined as not being able to tell you don't like something the minute you see it doing the stuff you don't like? : )

I don't feel that I have to demo a mower for a week if it's scalping the hell out of a lawn, or discharging poorly, or leaving uncut grass, or whatever. Mowing more grass with it isn't going to change that, assuming the thing is set up and performing to spec. Yes, more time with a machine reveals more about it, but some things you can find out about it w/o owning one.

Claiming someone has to own a Stander to comment on it or point out areas in need of improvement is like feeling that if you see an ugly woman you have to date her for 2 years to figure out that you don't want to marry her. That aspect of her is obvious without more investigation.

The Stander IS a good machine. I may still buy one and live with the imperfections. Every mower has some. The stander has a few serious ones. But nothing anyone has said has changed my mind on my valid criticisms of it. If we all go along and buy whatever they put out, and never ask for improvements, we sure won't get them.

The extreme touchiness I'm witnessing by its proponents ironically has the opposite effect from what they intend. It makes me have to think twice though about the raves I hear. I want to hear rational, reasoned ANALYSIS of a mower from someone who OWNS one, not something more akin to a guy in a bar bragging that his ballteam is better than all the others. Because that advice is coming from their ego being wrapped up in it. "I chose it, therefore it HAS to be the best, because if it's not then I am not the best".

thank you,
thats is just what i am trying to say, but since im slow i guess it didnt come across that way.

[EastProLawn]

Originally posted by QuadRacer041
thank you,
thats is just what i am trying to say, but since im slow i guess it didnt come across that way. Again, both of you still do not know how to read, I never argued what machine is greater than any other machine, I only said that you cannot judge any machine after using it for only a week. That's like buying a car after taking a 5 minute test drive ( which 99% of americans do ) What you do is you do some research and talk to people who have used the particular machine that you are interested in, whatever the brand may be. What you don't do, is talk about something that you do not know anything about. You don't hear me talking about Exmark's, or Scag's or Hustler's etc.
I don't talk about them because I don't have any experience with them, thus I keep my mouth shut about them and ask info from people who do use them. The Wright Stander in my humble opinion is a good machine ( it's not the best ) but it's a good machine.

[MacLawnCo]

Originally posted by brucec32
I don't feel that I have to demo a mower for a week if it's scalping the hell out of a lawn, or discharging poorly, or leaving uncut grass, or whatever.
Bruce, where are you getting these "observations?" How can you tell us that the wright deck is gona miss grass without ever mowing with it???? How do you know for certain that the stander is gona scalp if you have never tried????

Its story time. When i got my 52, pitch was set at 3/8". I actually mowed with it for about 6 weeks that way. The cut was acceptable, but by no means was it phenomenal. I decided one evening recently to experiment with different pitches. At first i put it at 1/16". The cut had some better characteristics and some worse. I wasnt satisfied, so i kept trying. After that, i put it at 1/4" and wow. Its a completely different machine. It can now seriously throw grass, nearly perfectly discharged. The difference is obvious to me. There really is no point to this story, except to tell you that unless you give a machine a chance, you will never know how good it can be.

Its a shame you have to judge a book from its cover. Oh, and by the way, re read the rules .... If you have never owned or used (at great length) a product offered by one of the sponsors, you are not permitted to comment on the value, validity, or effectiveness of these products or services.


and for the record, Id rather mary an "ugly" girl with a great personality and compatibilty than a georgous one with no personality or compatibility.

[EastProLawn]

The ugly girl w/ the personality will win in the long run everytime.
Nicely put MacLawn.

[Fareway Lawncare]

I won't do an ugly girl or buy a Stander until they incorperate "floating decks"!

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by EastProLawn
The ugly girl w/ the personality will win in the long run everytime.
Nicely put MacLawn.


ugly guys always say that:D

[dishboy]

I looked under the Wright 36 at the open box design and the fact that it does not have a floating deck to maintain deck pitch at different heights [and I cut at three different height almost everyday] and I knew what the end cut would look like without even starting the machine. It's ashame they did not complete the package, I would of bought one.

Also It took five minutes on the Exmark TTHP for me to see that the cut is better than anything I see out of other mowers.

[EastProLawn]

Originally posted by QuadRacer041
ugly guys always say that:D Now, that is some funny sh!t ! LOL, you got me on that one...

[butler L&S]

I put about 25 hrs a week on my mowers. I have owned several different brands of mowers and demoed even more. To compare a week on a mower to a 5 minute test drive in a car is way off. 25 hours in a car @ 50mph = 1250 miles. Will a dealer let you try their car for 1250 miles?

[EastProLawn]

Originally posted by butler L&S
I put about 25 hrs a week on my mowers. I have owned several different brands of mowers and demoed even more. To compare a week on a mower to a 5 minute test drive in a car is way off. 25 hours in a car @ 50mph = 1250 miles. Will a dealer let you try their car for 1250 miles? Again, people love to answer posts without reading them correctly, I compared it to that as an analogy, I never stated that it was the same, second the whole reason behind the analogy was exactly that, no dealer in his right mind ( car dealer or lawn care dealer ) will let you test something for a long extended period, thus proving my point, that a week with a mower is simply not long enough, just as a 5 minute test ride in a car is not long enough. So please read the post complete and understand the post before replying with a bunch of B/S. thanks so much.

[Planet Landscaping]

Guys, All I know is I got lotsta different mowers including LC Lazers. When I MUST mow I grab a Stander. Its just ,Well gotta have one to understand it.Pros: I can fit it small places,Easy on easy off,Fun,Wild handleing in the tight stuff. Biggest gripes, Curb jumping and trailer humps. For me "Luv my stander"

[EastProLawn]

Hey someone who knows how to convey his opinion is a nice easy fashion, kudos to you Jammer.

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by EastProLawn
Hey someone who knows how to convey his opinion is a nice easy fashion, kudos to you Jammer.


well as long as you like your stander eastpro will be your freind.:rolleyes:

[Planet Landscaping]

Anybody is welcome to come try mine.:)

[EastProLawn]

Hey, QuagRacer, buy a Wright Stander and I just might consider being your friend. Ooops... QuadRacer

[EastProLawn]

Well. I'm glad that's over...

[barringtonbrothers]

Originally posted by dishboy
I looked under the Wright 36 at the open box design and the fact that it does not have a floating deck to maintain deck pitch at different heights [and I cut at three different height almost everyday] and I knew what the end cut would look like without even starting the machine. It's ashame they did not complete the package, I would of bought one.

Also It took five minutes on the Exmark TTHP for me to see that the cut is better than anything I see out of other mowers.
I said close to the same thing, but oh no you have to waste $8000 to find out what you already know. Its amazing, you can have buddies that use them, see other companies lawns use em, try em out your self, but unless you go out and buy one - dont you comment on its flaws because you DONT OWN ONE. It would be like getting married to a mean ugle woman. You know shes mean, you know she is ugly, but untill you tie the knot, dont think about those things. lol

[Fareway Lawncare]

Can Someone Tell Me if I can Run eXmark blades on a Stander...They both Seem to have 5/8" Hole...I want to run the Wavy eXmark eXcaliburs w/the W/the Wright Mulch Kit if I buy a Stander...From what I Understand the Wright Mulch Blades are Just a Low Lift Solid Foil or Gator....

[CuttingCrew]

Morin3

About your original question. I own a 48” Wright Stander and have operated it with the hydro motors in all positions and never had a heat problem on my feet. I don’t think it’s coming from the pumps either, you should have two pieces of steel between the pumps and your feet with a lot of air movement between them from the belts and pulleys. It doesn’t make sense that there would be that much heat transfer all things considered, but I guess anything is possible. (There may be some differences between your 36 and my 48 that I’m not aware of.)

There has been a lot of discussion on this thread about the pros and cons of the Standers and their built in problems. Here’s my two cents worth.

I bought mine used from a friend who had it custom built with a 22 horsepower Kohler engine so all its parts would be consistent with his four 61in. Standers with 22’s. 22 HP is a lot for a 48 inch! The max RPM is still 3600 so its not any faster than a 17 HP, but it is a monster in tall grass or when mulching.

Watch out for cracks. It’s not uncommon for Standers to crack on the sides of the lower tractor up front (on the sides of the engine deck). Wright is aware of this and might have reinforced this by now. (Mine is three years old) they also have a habit of cracking on top of the mower deck in front of the frame rails. I feel if they had brought the rails out to the front edge of the deck, this would not be an issue.

Changing cutting height is a b!+-*h if you use more than two heights, ½” apart. Mine is set to cut at 3¼” with ¼” pitch down hill. I’m using high lift, notched blades and it leaves a beautiful cut. With the caster spacers moved, I also cut at 3¾”. This takes all the pitch out of the blades to dead level. This still leaves a beautiful cut, but I can see a slight loss of quality. Higher blade tip speed would help this I think.

I’m going to try the mulching kit on it but not before I make some changes to raise the BTS. bruce32 is right, 15,700 fpm is dismal! My Stander has 5¾” pulleys all around so 3600 rpm at the engine means 3600 rpm at the blade spindle. If you replace your 5¾” blade spindle pulleys with 5” pulleys and shorten you main belt 1¾” and your secondary belt 2¼” and leave your main drive pulley at 5¾” (cause who wants to buy a new clutch/brake?), you will raise the blade spindles to 4141 rpm. That’s a BTS of just over 18,000 fpm! I will be looking into the cost of new taper lock pulleys and checking the class of bearings Wright uses to be sure they can handle the increased rpm. I AM NOT RECOMENDING ANYONE MAKE THESE CHANGES! I’M SURE IT WOULD VOID YOUR WARRENTY AND MAY BE DANGEROUS! IF I MAKE THESE CHANGES I UNDERSTAND I WILL BE DOING SO AT MY OWN RISK. IF YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES, YOUR DOING SO AT YOUR OWN RISK! So please don’t reply telling me what a fool I am. I spent 13 years building high speed milling equipment and know a few things about calculating belt length and pulley size and bearing classes.

With all that said, I love my Stander. Its fast, turns on a dime, goes anywhere and cuts twice as much grass as my partner can cut with our 44” WB in the same time frame and does a beautiful job. My next purchase will be a 52” Stander.

Good luck getting you feet cooled down!

[Itsgottobegreen]

Cutting crew. Mine are the old style(1998, 2000). But I got the reinforcement pieces to fix the cracks. Mine cracked on the deck, on both machines. I since have reweld the cracks and welded on the new reinforcement pieces that I got. The new standers have had all those problems fixed. The new decks have extra supports and reinforcements.

Other wise I never had a problem with mine. I will buy another one next year. (the 1998 model I have is going to be retired and placed in back up mode) I just love my standers.

[MacLawnCo]

I feel obligated to mention this:

Switching from the phenomenal exmark cut to the wright cut this year, im not that awe inspired. The main complaint i have noticed is a substantial build up of dead, un decomposed clippings just sitting on top of the turf. You know that stuff, the yellow crap that gets hidden after a few days growth but is there none the less. Well this spring, since the wright deck just cuts the grass blades once and spits them out, the clippings have been building and building up in/on the lawns to the point of becoming a problem. None of my clients have noticed, but its still eating at me just the same. Ive began running a gator blade on each spindle (in adition to the standard blade) and must say im begining to get a better feeling. The clippings are much smaller with the doubles, however i just dont feel that i should have to resort to these measures under normal circumstances on any machine.... at least my exmark doesnt require this.

Id like to end however, on a positive note. I had been getting done too early each day and im having to take on more clients just to keep my schedule full, which BTW means more money for me. :)