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landscapingpoolguy
06-10-2004, 06:23 PM
Hey guys,

Check out these machines......i was very much considering a bobcat but i think i might wanan go with ASV which is basically a CAT. What ya guys think?

http://www.asvi.com/index.cfm

im thinking the rc 50

Chuck

NNJLandman
06-10-2004, 06:33 PM
Seems like a sweet machine. Will it be able to get up over the sides of your dump? The turf edition is pretty neat....sense it won't rip up the grass. They have all the attachments too, diesel as well. Seems like a sweet machine to me. I would try n demo one first.

Jeff

landscapingpoolguy
06-10-2004, 06:54 PM
lift hight is like 7'4"... my truck is really low too though...I have loaded it up with a b 21 tractor so im sure the skid will have no prob.and its basically catipiller made.

Chuck

Avery
06-10-2004, 07:21 PM
I had to rent a skid steer this week because both tractors where having problems. It had been several years since I ran on. I do not see the draw for them. Very ineffecient IMO. I can do twice the work with a utility tractor.

That being said if I were to buy one it would be a Cat or Gehl with tracks.

landscapingpoolguy
06-11-2004, 01:04 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50909&item=3820415371&rd=1

looks like a good deal.

Chuck

RedWingsDet
06-11-2004, 01:07 AM
how much do bobcats cost? like a basic newbie model?

landscapingpoolguy
06-11-2004, 10:09 AM
i think around $35,000 for a full size bobcat, They call the rc 30 a compact track loader so i dont think it can handle full size bobcat atchments..plus its only about 48" wide.

Chuck

Acute Cut
06-11-2004, 10:32 AM
rc 30 go for like 16K new, the rc 60 i think is like 27K new. Perhaps that is the rc 50 i forget. Basically the 30 is half of the 50 in every way. Where the 30 does 800lbs the 50 does 1600lbs and so on. IF i were in the market i think i would either look at either a gehl, mustang (Never seen one, but like look of high dump) or an asv or rc 50 or 60. Tracks are a necessity around here as the ground is USUALLY wet and muddy.

landscapingpoolguy
06-11-2004, 10:39 AM
the rc 50 is definalty the best sized machine for all round general duties.....but the 30 could have alot of advantages......moving 1 - 2" caliber trees around, mulch, stone etc......and not leaving a mark on the customers property.

Chuck

lawn jockey
06-13-2004, 07:57 AM
I have used both, Stay away from the 30 it lacks serious power!!! The 50 on the other hand is alot better. I have also used the 100 nice machine! The only thing I dont like about theses machines is that they sometimes just dont have the power to turn. Thats maybe because Im used to our bobcats.

rambo10
06-14-2004, 08:40 PM
I purchased a Polaris ASL 300, which is an ASV 30 . The deal between Polaris and ASV is going away. I paid $14k for the ASL 300. The ASV's are going for $21k.

Better get one while you can!!!!!

I have had mine for about 3 months and the machine is fantastic!!!

Any questions? e-mail me!

Itsgottobegreen
06-14-2004, 09:34 PM
The case dealer near me had a bunch of rc30 he can't give them away. People demo both the RC 30 and RC 50 and buy the RC 50. Thats my next big toy a RC 50. Or maybe a RC 30 if the price is way pass right.

The turf edition is another $2500. My dealer said its not worth it unless you working on a golf course.

landscapingpoolguy
06-15-2004, 12:25 AM
the 50 looks right up my alley...Which of these machines can carry around pallets of pavers and wall block comfortably, and can work on hills......Being in north Jersey I work on a lot of hilly propertys.....infact I did a nose dive in a bobcat 773 2 weeks ago working on a slope while transporting fill.

Chuck

Rex Mann
06-15-2004, 01:25 AM
None of those machines can move a pallet of pavers. Pallets here start at 3000 pounds for 120 sf of 60mm up to 4200 pounds for 100 sf of 80mm.

Peace,

Rex

our web site (http://rmstonescaping.com)

royallandscaper
06-15-2004, 12:28 PM
I have used both the RC30 and RC50 and neither will be able to handle a full pallet of stone or block. For light work the RC50 is the best bet, the RC30 certainly lacks power. Once you fill a bucket with mulch or stone you'll see how much the RC30 is lacking in power.

Rodney

rambo10
06-15-2004, 06:51 PM
hey royallandscaper!

I have had my ASL 300 (rc30) for over 3 months working in CT which has alot more rock and hills than NJ and I have not had a problem. ANY skid steer will tip over if at the wrong angle. As for power, my machine pushes like a bulldozer and with an overfull bucket of soil, it does not have a problem (30hp CAT diesel). Yes, the rc50 is more powerful, but I can into just about anywhere with the 30. The 30 also only weighs 3000 lbs., so you can put it on or in a 7000lb trailer instead of having to have a 10k lb. trailer.

I have an enclosed 6x12 Haulmark with an extra 6" of height and the machine fits perfect. The machine stands 71" tall.

I am an LCO so I didn't need a big trailer, but I also do paver patios/retaining walls.

for $14k , you can't find a better machine. Believe me, I investigated every skid steer out there!!

GrazerZ
06-16-2004, 12:06 AM
used a RC30 two days ago to loam the edges of a driveway. 42 yrds. Have to say that I would never buy one of those machines. It is totally gutless. It was all I could do to get a full bucket load. I needed a running start to get the machine to stick into the pile. I will say that as far as damage it didn't do any. But as far as power, it dose'nt have any. I almost stalled it out many times. Wicked frustrating!!! Oh and the machine only had @250 hrs on it, before you say it must be old.

GrazerZ
06-16-2004, 12:08 AM
And another word. $14,000 bucks. Buy a used REAL skidsteer and not grow old trying to move material around.

royallandscaper
06-16-2004, 12:06 PM
I agree 100% GrazerZ. ASV certainly makes good products and have found that both the RC30 and RC50 do very little turf damage. The RC 30 is just lacking power to be able to do any real job considering it's operating compacity is only 800pounds at 50% tipping load, and 560pounds at 35% tipping load. I think in very tight areas and if you don't have to run the machine far it has it's purpose. I certainly would never buy this machine. I think most would be better off with the RC50 or even the RC60.

landscapingpoolguy
06-16-2004, 08:08 PM
well maybe il should go with an older used 4800 or 2800 series

Chuck