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bugpage
06-24-2004, 10:11 AM
Wondering if any lawncare professionals have heard of or have interest in automatic mosquito contorl systems that are installed in back yards and spray liquid insecticide through nozzles placed around the perimeter of a yard?

If so, is there any interest as dealers? We are a manufacturer of an automatic mosquito control system (since 1985). If there is interest we are looking to market to the lawncare professional. Any feed-back would be great.

Green Dreams
06-24-2004, 11:12 AM
I have looked at them I think I could sell them, too. I just need to learn the installation and upkeep part. Is it difificult? Please keep in mind that I could not put a three piece puzzle together if I had to...lol

Drew

bugpage
06-24-2004, 11:38 AM
The installation is like most equipment, it takes time to learn about it. You could look at our web site www.automist.com to get some ideas. Mosquito control seems to be a growing market with West Nile on the rise. Many of our dealers are having success and their clients are very satisfied.

TSM
06-24-2004, 02:35 PM
here in MA, it is misleading (and illegal) to use the word safe when advertising the use of any pesticide.

your website uses the word safe

though i agree with all the site has to say about Pyrethrin...safe is misleading to say the least. whos to say who will be in the area of an automatic spray system, kids, pets, adults for that matter.

though your system sounds good...not something i'd want to take on for liability issues.

good luck

bugpage
06-24-2004, 02:50 PM
We started in 1985 marketing to the livestock market, spraying mainly horse stables. Within the past 3 years the idea was brought to us and promoted by people other than us. We had never heard of it but were told it was big in the gulf states. We basicly started selling to companies that wanted to private label the equipment.

Our dealers tell us they spray at midnight and 5 in the morning as to minimize spraying on people. We also thought of the risks and possible law suits. In the past 3 years I have seen over 300 dealers spring up selling these systems. No all ours. There is even a company out of TX that has franchised the whole thing and is looking at revenues of $100 million.

As far as safe, we do promote the fact that we use safe insecticides, labeled for use in and around homes. Although many companies out there are tring to pass Pyrethrin sprays off as all natural. We only claim that the active ingredient (3% or 6%) is of natural origin.

These systems have been around since the 70's spraying in dairy and horse barns. They spray 4-6 times per day between 8am and sunset. We alone have thousands of systems treating barns nation-wide. Never thought it would branch out into residential areas.

Thanks for the feed -back. Anymore would be great.

bugpage
06-24-2004, 02:54 PM
Thought I would add one more note.

We usually use a 6% Pyrethrin Concentrate. In a 55 gallon reservoir we dilute 64 oz. conc. to 54 gallons of water. Basically looking for a 0.06% spray.

Turf Medic
06-24-2004, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by bugpage

These systems have been around since the 70's spraying in dairy and horse barns. They spray 4-6 times per day between 8am and sunset. We alone have thousands of systems treating barns nation-wide. Never thought it would branch out into residential areas.



IMO a big differnce between spraying around a bunch of 1200 lb cows and a 25 lb child. Might be over reacting, but I don't like the idea of introducing any kind of pesticide in the close proximity of children.

bugpage
06-24-2004, 03:01 PM
I see your concern. I guess that is way the spray is released in hours when children wouldn't be present.

It has got to be better than the guy who fogs his back yard in the middle of the afternoon when his children are present??

I say that because I just saw my neighbor do it this weekend. His whole yard was full of fog. Kids where running though it - SCARRY.

Turf Medic
06-24-2004, 05:19 PM
This will sound a little cold, but a big difference in liability a homeowner spraying his children, and a licensed, insured, business owner spraying chemicals into an environment that might affect children. Now from my point of view that is SCARY. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, if you could combine the equipment with a natural repellent ie the garlic, might make a difference.

TSM
06-24-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Turf Medic
Like I mentioned in an earlier post, if you could combine the equipment with a natural repellent ie the garlic, might make a difference.

now that sounds like a very good idea!
what say you, bugpage, is this doable?

bugpage
06-24-2004, 05:50 PM
Your correct. I was just referring to the pure safety side, not necessarily who was applying it.

We have tried garlic juice and cedar oil and about everything else out there. It seems that these "repellents" can never get the job done. We've seen under 50% success with the natural repellents. I wish one would work well enough to go with. It would be great.

Like I said in an earlier post - the whole idea was brought to us. Actually we have many large PCO's that install systems daily under there own private label. With problems such as wind drift, rain and other environmental issues, I can't understand how they are effective. Yet customers from every manufacturer claim they work great. May be it's the fact that people in general dislike mosquitoes.

Green Dreams
06-24-2004, 07:42 PM
I have seen some systems. It seems the line is stapled along the house and fence line. It all runs back to the barrel and timer device. Is that timer battery operated? What if there is a problem? What guarantee is there in parts ect? Thanks

bugpage
06-24-2004, 09:55 PM
sometimes the installs are run underground. The 1/4" nylon tubing is run through PVC pipe and then to 2 foot risers in flower beds. Fence lines and hedges are attached to also. The system runs off of 110 volt. The clocks have battery backup in case power goes out. Years should go by before replacement parts are needed.

We have systems running in livestock facilities that have been running 5-10 years of longer with only yearly winterizing and maintenance.

Green Dreams
06-28-2004, 02:55 PM
Mr Bugpage...

I'd like to talk to you some more about this. Please e-mail me at TexasGreenDreams@aol.com

bugpage
06-28-2004, 03:22 PM
Green Dreams,

I have forwarded your message to our Sales Manager. He should be in contact with you shortly.

Green Dreams
06-28-2004, 04:18 PM
Thanks... I e-mailed into sales from your site as well...