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stevesmowing
07-21-2004, 07:26 PM
Hey guys I am 16 years old and just bought my first pick up truck. Right now I am mowing about 25 yards a week and am looking for better means of transportation to get my mower and other tools from house to house. I don't have a place to store a trailer and places around here want $75-$100 a month for storage. I was wondering about using ramps into the back of the truck. I have a 48" wb belt drive, so it would have to be driven foward into the truck I liked the ramps I saw at places like usaramps that r the mesh like on the back of a trailer however they are a little pricy. I was wondering If I could use 2x8's or 2x10's as ramps and have something at the top of the ramp that sits down in the slots in the bed liner
so it can't shift side ways I was also thinking maybe a device to keep the bottoms of the ramps and tops locked at a fixed width for loading but be able to pull a pin and have them seprate. Does any one out there do any thing like that and if so do you have pics? Thanks Here is my new truck.

NNJLandman
07-21-2004, 07:30 PM
I have a Chevy silverado with a short bed and my Scag 36 just fits in the back, I use two 2x10 boards, it drive right up into the back but getting it down is a pain and can get dangerous, but I got the hang of it, I have a guy that works with me so he has to keep the boards from moving around. All of our equipment fits perfect, Not sure if a 48 would fit in the back of that truck.

Jeff

steve in Pa.
07-21-2004, 07:30 PM
just be careful with ramps, we have had a few accidents where the ramp slips off and the mower of course comes down. i would suggest getting a little 5' x 10' trailer and parking it in the drive way or in the yard somewhere. if you can get a enclosed trailer that would be ideal.

Littleriver1
07-21-2004, 07:42 PM
http://www.usaramp.com/

Mats
07-21-2004, 07:43 PM
I have these type of ramp ends bolted onto 2 x 12s

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&productId=13471

I use these ramps to run a loaded wheelbarrow up into the bed.

Littleriver1
07-21-2004, 07:51 PM
I have ramp ends bolted onto 2X12's but there 2 ft. long. I use them to get over curbs.

crawdad
07-21-2004, 08:40 PM
First, most important rule-fasten the ramps to the truck to prevent slipping while loading/unloading.
It's a whole bunch safer to back the mower onto the truck, as then, when unloading, you are above the machine in case it falls.
Make a frame to keep the machine away from the front of the bed, so you don't hit the brake and get a handlebar in the back of the head.
Not sure if you can fit a 48 in a 6' bed this way, as I have an 8' bed, and put a 21" behind the Scag, against the tailgate, and it's a good tight fit.
Crawdad

qualitylandscaping
07-21-2004, 08:56 PM
Nice truck! Good luck with it in the snow with 2wheel drive though.. These trucks are buses without 4wd and you will notice it!

I got the 2x12 ramp kit from Home Depot for $33.99 + $16.99 for each 2x12.. I only use them to run wheelbarrows up into the dump trailer, but I suppose you could use them to load into the truck. Just BE CAREFUL!

smlavin
07-21-2004, 09:02 PM
BUY GOOD QUALITY ALUMINUM RAMPS AND BE SURE TO SECURE THEM WITH A CABLE TO THE TAILGATE. If you hit the brakes while the mower is on the ramp it will pull the ramps away from the tailgate and the mower will come down on you! Also, wood is VERY SLICK when wet.

Ramps will work but don't try to save a few buck here. Stay away from wood! JMO

Pecker
07-21-2004, 09:06 PM
The only thing about those boards is that when they get a little and some clippings smeared on them, you will be asking for trouble.

Ask me how I know. . .I used to use two 2x10s to manually push ( because there was no traction to drive it in) my old Murray riding mower up into the bed. After nearly killing myself a few times, I wised up and bolted a hand-crank jet ski winch to the front of the bed. Once I made a few thousand $$$ I bought a 14' tandem axle trailer to haul my little collection around. Now, I have that same trailer full of commercial units.

My point is though, since a trailer isn't an option, at least build some type of winch / hoist to drag your WB in and out of the truck. It'll be much safer and less back-breaking.

Also, there is a company that makes a ramp that telescopes on itself and serves as a tailgate. I was pretty pricey, but I think it would serve your purpose well. I forget the name, but if you'd like, I can do a search and see if I can find it.

Good luck to ya.

HOOLIE
07-21-2004, 09:16 PM
I've used wooden ramps for the last 2 years without incident. But I ALWAYS pay attention to what I'm doing when I load/unload. If you get slack you could have an accident.

Also, try not to park on a hill if at all possible.

stevesmowing
07-21-2004, 09:18 PM
Being a belt drive mower the reverse is really just a helping reverse and i don't think it could get the mower up a ramp backwards. How would it work to use 2x10's and fasten metal mesh to them? I am up for any other creative ideas if you guys have them. Thanks

qualitylandscaping
07-21-2004, 09:24 PM
If you can possibly get a trailer, go down to Davis Trailer World in York. Tell them Steve @ Quality Lawn & Landscape sent you. They will hook you up with a good quality trailer at a decent price.

I've gotten all but one of my trailers from Davis. I got the 6.6'x16' from Dailey, and it sux. The coupler is stuck, the right brake light has blown twice already, the deck boards are warping, the frame sides are really weak and it's only a month old.

Never had a problem with Davis and they are good guys.

outsidepride
07-21-2004, 09:25 PM
This is what i use when i need my dump trailer to haul other stuff but i also need to bring the mower

stevesmowing
07-21-2004, 09:28 PM
I would like to have a trailer but i don't have the money nor the place to store it do to deed restrictions in the my subdevison which states you can't have a trailer in a driveway or lawn. I am not looking to load the mower in every day I will only be using it for a couple of yards as my other ones are all within .75 of a mile from my house. I have a question about the board ends at http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&productId=13471 how do they attach to the tail gate?

Whats the stuff that is like sand paper and sicks on to stuff that is used where anti slip is needed. any one know where you can buy that to put on wood if i used it

stevesmowing
07-21-2004, 09:29 PM
outsidepride thats a nice ramp. How does it work, what did it cost and where did you get it?

GeeVee
07-21-2004, 09:48 PM
Any you guys close to albany?

Do go and purchase or fabricate a ramp lilke OUTSIDE PRIDE has, to you sir, BRAVO. Very nice.

For you Steve, I say this, one acident could ruin you or the mower or both in a split second.

Ramps are for emergencies, not everyday practices.

outsidepride
07-21-2004, 09:53 PM
i got it here in canada for 450 CND about 350 US but im sure if you did a search you could find one in your area. All it does is fold up but it streaches out to 7 Ft when un folded and will hold 1500 pounds I saw earlier someone posted a link to site that had the same type of ramp, on this thread

qualitylandscaping
07-21-2004, 09:53 PM
About 2 1/2 hours from albany, or if you drive the speed limit closer to 3 hours ;)

outsidepride
07-21-2004, 09:58 PM
Steve You can also keep your tailgate on but i chose not to

Green Care
07-21-2004, 10:08 PM
I have the safe T ramp love it don't also can get more on the truck.

stevesmowing
07-21-2004, 10:13 PM
Does any place around rochester ny fabricate them up?

Mats
07-21-2004, 10:15 PM
I have a question about the board ends. How do they attach to the tail gate?
The ramp ends have a hole for a pin and you drill a corresponding hole in your tailgate. A pin then secures the ramp to the tailgate so the ramps don't slip. I use 10" ramp ends I bought at Pepboys attached to a 2 x 12". I don't mow and don't know about loading a heavy mower with these ramps but they work just fine for heavy wheelbarrows. Check your local auto parts store and look in the trailer/tow hitch section.

stevesmowing
07-21-2004, 11:00 PM
the pins looked small to me , do they just pull out to get the ramps off the tail gate?

Mats
07-22-2004, 10:12 AM
the pins looked small to me , do they just pull out to get the ramps off the tail gate?

They are small, they just hold the ramp end in place on the tail gate. And yes, you just pull them out to remove the ramps. I've lost my supplied pins and use 2 1/4" #8 machine screws as replacements.

As I've said, I don't mow, but wouldn't use these wood ramps to load something as large and heavy as the mower pictured in your avatar. I just use these ramps to get loaded wheelbarrows in my truck's bed.

Up North
07-22-2004, 11:17 AM
Stevesmowing,
I use those same ramp ends from Northern Tool. I mounted them to green treated 2x10's and put 3 of the ramp mats (prevent slipping & sliding) on each ramp. The steel mesh would work better as the rubber mats still get slippery. I use these ramps to load/unload my ATV. They work fine, but are dangerous. Must be very careful when there is the slightest bit of moisture on the ramps or tires. The pins are small but pretty strong, I've bent one but never snapped one.

I'm not going to say "don't use wood ramps" but I would try to find an alternate solution.

There are some aluminum ATV ramps that have three sections and fold up, they may work better depending on the size of your tires. Cost is about $100 and they are very sturdy.

Buck

gogetter
07-22-2004, 02:37 PM
I say go with a USARAMP type unit.

I know you said they are more then what you want to spend, but how much is your safety worth?

One slip and your truck could get damaged, your mower could get damaged, or YOU could get damaged. Not worth it.

If USARamp is too much, shop around the internet for others (do a search for truck ramps), or visit some local metal fabrication shops (look in your phone book) and see what they can do for you.


In the end, you'll be happy you did.

stevesmowing
07-22-2004, 07:58 PM
if i did go with the safe-t ramps from like usaramps would you guys suggest a 7 foot or 8 foot, again its for an encore 48" belt drive walk behind. Its almost identical to the scag belt drive walk behind

stevesmowing
07-22-2004, 09:07 PM
i just did some tests with scale drawings on paper how do the diff angles on the sections work where the seem is. Even if I had 10 foot ramps it looks like i would bottom out on the mower. I only have 2" clearence between the deck and the ground however blades are set to 3" My truck tail gate is 34" inches up. Does anyone else have problems with bottoming out?

dcondon
07-22-2004, 09:20 PM
why not take the money for those and find a little used trailer????? Maybe someone on here has one. That way saftey is covered and you have the bed of the truck for trimmer,gas etc........

gogetter
07-23-2004, 01:28 PM
Steve, my walk behinds bottom out on my trailer ramp. And it's a regular open landscape trailer.
I just pop wheelies over the hump (loading and unloading). No problems.

Even still, for your truck I would get the longest ramp possible. Just so it isn't so steep.

stevesmowing
07-23-2004, 10:22 PM
How many guys out there use the safe-t ramps that are like 53" wide? Does any one have pictures of them loading their mowers with these? Thanks