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Mowman
08-01-2000, 07:53 AM
Do you guys/gals run your engines wide open when cutting? Or do you run at half throttle? I tried it both ways on my 20HP Kolher and could not tell the difference in the cut. Thanks for your response. Mowman
SKDCO
08-01-2000, 07:57 AM
Wide open. These engines are designed to operate at full throttle under the load of the pto. Half throttle will cause poor performance.
geogunn
08-01-2000, 08:24 AM
MISTER SCOTT--FULL POWER TO THE BLADES!!!<p>capt kirk
Premo Services
08-01-2000, 08:40 AM
Always run at full throttle,last year bought a toro super recycler ,the engine is set at speed best for it. I asked dealer why no throttle control, he told me sometimes they are ran at lower throttle,this puts strain on engine,etc.
thelawnguy
08-01-2000, 09:07 AM
In reality the throttle doesnt control the throttle but regulates the the governor, which in turn decides how much coal to throw on the fire to keep the engine at the set rpm (usually 3300-3600). Keep it at full speed and let the governor do its job.<p>Bill
Richard Martin
08-01-2000, 09:08 AM
I run mine wide open and that's still not enough.
TGCummings
08-01-2000, 09:18 AM
All the way open. It's the only way to fly...<p>-TGC
Bobby
08-01-2000, 04:55 PM
scream it<p>----------<br>Yesteryear L/S<br>Hollywood Fla
85% throttle. I take it all the way then back off just a tad. What could be so good about screaming your engine's guts out all day. Exception is thick or high grass.
Charles
08-01-2000, 06:41 PM
osc, tisk tisk. The engine runs cooler when running full blast. Oh man, thought this was learned in lawn service 101
Andrews,<p>your Kohler made it 75 hours ??? The one Kohler gave us to replace the 200 hour failure did not even get out of the freaking shop. We installed it and the mechanic pulled the cord, it started and promptly started knocking.<p>Kohler just wants me to haul it 50 miles to the big city so they can tell me one of their horse$hit excuses about what we did wrong.<p>List of Kohler dealer factory excuses :<p>You ran the engine at half throttle.<br>You ran the engine at full throttle.<br>Your mechanics did not install it right. (He's ASE certified.)<br>You ran it out of oil. ( No heat searing found on the main bearings, just a broken crankshaft)<br>You set the idle too high. ( Set at factory, never touched it)<br>You mowed on a side hill. ( None in our accounts).<br>The Easter bunny did't leave me any candy.<p>Kohler has to be the absolute worst about standing behind their products.<p>They say we abuse the products and attempt to tell me about basic engine construction and repair. No engine failures in our entire fleet in two years except for Kohler Commands single cylinder 13- 16 horse.Three failed in the last 6 months. Thats 15 engines in that range with 6 Kohlers and 3 failed. I'll just go back out to the garage and work on my drag car motor with my son. Thats a 500 hp engine, but I don' know my motors according to the dealer.
John DiMartino
08-01-2000, 08:59 PM
I run mine at 3700 or so,unless its an area with thick grass or i really am jammin then Ill put it to the stop at 3820-40,I dont think the cut is any different on mine from 2500rpm's to 3800,it cuts just as good at 2500,as long as your not wide open.Dale,kohlers are junk-consider this a good lesson and buy Kawi's next time.This is my last Kohler too,I did get excellent warranty service though-even though with 70hrs I should never had needed it.<p>----------<br>John D<br>
WALKERMOW
08-01-2000, 10:16 PM
IF YOUR ENGINE IS AIR COOLED YOU MUST RUN IT AT FULL THROTTLE TO KEEP AS MUCH AIR FLOWING ACROSS YOUR ENGINE AS POSSIBLE..SLOWER ENGINE SPEED MEANS HIGHER TEMPS.
eslawns
08-01-2000, 11:25 PM
If the blades are directly driven by the engine, the faster they turn, the better lift they will give. That helps give a more uniform cut. The only time I back mine down is if there's a good chance of something being thrown.
Runner
08-01-2000, 11:42 PM
I instruct all my crews to run approx. half way up, engage blades the run to full. To disengage, we turn throttle down half way, then disengage. Also, we NEVER run full when engine is not under resistance such as when transporting to and from trailer. Sorry you guys had such bad luck on the Kohlers I've had nothing but great performance out of mine. One is a 20 hp Magnum, with about 1500 hrs. on it on a Gravely Promaster 300 tri rider and the other is a new Kohler with 26 hp and the fuel injection set up. That is on an Exmark Laser EPS. All other motors are Briggs and Kawasaki (Liquid cooled-- Lazer also).
MOW ED
08-02-2000, 06:31 PM
Dale I'm with you all the way Kohler has the poorest Bullshi%% excuses and they stand behind their crap the same way. I had a 25HP that was the engine from hell, I sold the mower and 25 hours after the new owner had it the demons returned. I had to buy a Kohler 26EFI for my new Walker and the reason I did is the 2 year warranty and a good price on my old one. In the future the name Kubota WILL be on all of my major equipment because Kohler has a shitty business ethic. <br>It wont take too long for it to happen with these forums. You don't see any Tecumseas in big mowers do you?<br>
greensman21
08-03-2000, 02:23 PM
why do you think crafstman uses kohler!? POS
Guido
08-03-2000, 04:13 PM
The way I look at it is this, they make the throttle go all the way to the right for a reason, right?? If they didn't want you to run it wide open, they would have put the stop in closer!!! <p>----------<br><a href="http://communities.msn.com/guidosequipmentpics/">"Guido"</a><br>David M. Famiglietti
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