Imported workers

[bdemir]

This year i was thinking of getting workers from abroad. My first concern is whether they will work out. The other is trying to communicate with them. The next is to get a place for them to stay and so on. Im just wondering if its worth it. GOing through all that trouble and finding out that its not going to work or its too much trouble.

The plus side on the other hand is the fact that they may be more loyal to their employers and it might work out great.
What are your opinions on importing labor and do you support it or not. Any info or advice is appreciated.



Bedros

[LoneStarLawn]

This sounds like the other post with the work visa's in "Hispanic Labor" thread.

[Mark]

Sounds like a hassel to me. Can't find any good workers up there in Michigan?

[Bama]

bdemir,
My wife's uncle owns a large seafood restaurant here on the MS. Gulf Coast. He currently has about 90-100 employees, so it's no small operation. A few years ago, he hired some workers from a company that imports people from Hungary and The Czech Republic. He pays the company $7.50-8.00/hr.
The company is responsible for taking out taxes and workmans comp./ insurance, housing etc.. The worker probably only sees $4.50-4.75/hr, but they say it's like making $25.00/hr in their country. He has had tremendous success with the workers that he's gotten. He said that they are the most meticulous and hard-working of his hourly employees. I met with the manager of this labor company and I plan on hiring 1 maybe 2 employees this season. I hope that I have the success that Mickey has had in the restaurant. If you want any info on the company, let me know.
Hope this helps,
BAMA

[bdemir]

Bama,

Thanks for the help. I Scheduled one worker to try him out this year if it works i can get three more the lady told me. The place is workfirce international. The lady was cooperative and made it clear that if it does not work out i would just have to send them back. I will know by this spring. Thanks for the feedback.


Bedros

[rdh]

might be $25.oo in there country but they dont live there $4.50 is that the american dream i would steal or sell
drugs heck even if i got cought prison would be better(roof
and food)there are to many factories laying off the american
workers to move there companys to forein countrys just for
cheap labor to bring theme here and pay them $4.50 sure
wont take long to turn our country in to a third world slum
dont bring them here just because of cheap labor so you can
make a dollar

[Evan528]

I was told that through the h2h program each worker is about 1000 fee to the company. They must be payed at least 7 dollars per hour. If for any reason they quite or leave your compnay they will be deported no questions asked. Several companys i have talked to who use h2h have nothing but great words to say about the program and the workers. There very motivated and will work 80 hours a week if you wanted them too.

[Twotoros]

Sounds like the legal american worker loses again. If you can't make a profit by paying citizens a living wage then you should not be an employer. Work alone. This is the mentality that is screwing this country up. If you don't like my opinion - tough dirt!!!

[Evan528]

twotoros, the sad reality is that americans are lazy! Yes there are exeptions but for the most part a mexican can not only do more work in a day then a american but they also apreciate the job alot more wich motivates them to give it there all. There very fast learners too! If your in this business for profit... why pay a american 10bucks a hour to do half as much work as a mexican will do for 10 dollars per hour.

[rdh]

evan528
wrote why pay a american 10bucks a hour to do half as much work as a mexican will do for 10 dollars per hour.

most people dont own businesses were will they work at in the future? how about your kids future?
how about your customer will not take them long to realize
you are the middle man .
i have work hard all my life . if you cant find a american
that will work hard mybe you aint paying enough or is
it that there first few checks they could buy a used walk
behind and take your costomers dont have to worry about
that if employee cant speak english and can be sent back
were they came from
if you give up on americans think about kids future man there going to have it bad when all employers hire non
americans just to make a dollar
may be you could trade your mower for a boat or maybe you
should not be in a business
LONG LIVE AMERICA!!!!!!


[Edited by rdh on 01-27-2001 at 07:43 PM]

[jimsmowin]

if i can get good help than i will pay for it. like the one post said " lazy" . i don't mind paying the price but, then i expect work ! americans are doing this to them selves. i can't stress it enough, you work and produce, i'll pay

[Bama]

If I can pay a company 7.50 or 8.00/hr. and they provide me with a quality laboror while taking out the taxes, insurance etc.. I would be STUPID not to. Whatever arrangemets that are made between the worker and the labor company have to be agreed upon by both parties. And the agreements have to be LEGAL also. These guys are plain happy, no, ecstatic to even be here in America. Now granted if they prove to be good workers, I will definately give them bonuses. I believe in being a blessing to people.
And there are no better people to be a blessing to than the people that are responsible for helping you reach your goals. But lets get honest, are the sharpest Americans you know long-term employees of a lawncare company? There are some long-term employees that are honest, dependable and hard-working people. They may be quality people. I don't consider myself any better than an hourly employee. but, as a businessman, I don't take financial advice from them. If they have an ounce of ambition, they will start their own business. The "American Dream" to me is not to simply to make a "living wage". My "American Dream" is to be in business for myself. You might call using a legal labor company to provide hard-working laborors who are happy to have an opportunity, taking advantage of people, but I call it BUSINESS. And since we are all entitled to one, that's simply my opinion.
BAMA

[rdh]

i ate at the golden corral yesterday they had forein workers food always tasted great except yesterday i will
never eat there again food was crap and as for those workers
they are taken the teens work they could be working to make own car payments and buy things they need and give there
parents a break the place sure had a lot of teens working
the other times i was there wonder if there parent are
paying there way now

[larrv45390]

If you do not want to support your country than do not cry about it. If you fell there is a problem with it do something to fix it

[rdh]

larrv45390
i didnt get your post if i could fix it i would stop immigration.
as for crying all of us will when we catch a std just from
eating at one of these places.

[John DiMartino]

RDH,the facts are reliable,hard working laborers are not found in the US,and if you do find one,and he is smart he will leave you the minute he sees what you are making,then you go thru the whole process again,and hope they dont steal as many customers as the last guy did.I initially thought like you and was mad that this was happening,but truth is,american kids get money from MOmmy and Daddy and sit in front ot TV playing playstation,instead of trying to save for a future.When i grew up,I was always forced to work,by Dad,never a dull moment and if there wasnt anything to do,I cut and stacked wood for winter.All my friends were playing games and up to no good.I got a hard worker last summer at the golf course,problem was he broke 3 trimmers,6 rakes,ripped out 5 $100 sprinklers and wrecked 2 carts.He was the fastest worker I had,but by the time you factored in the loss,he wound up costing me more than any other too.

[bdemir]

Here is the number to workforce international if anyone wants to use their service.



713-923-5564.


Bedros

[rdh]

think i will put in my flyers a American flag & next to that
have owner operated & employees.

i will name company victory lawncare
my slogan
hale victory!!

[moonarrow]

When I was in Dallas Tx I used espanic labor, they were very hard working, the only complaint they ever had was they wanted more work as far as comunication you show them what they want and develope a type of sign language and there is no prob. They will begin to teach you spanish and you teach them english. I have found them to be very fast learners and try their best to please you. I texas you find that most people in this field of work are espanic with white crew leaders and business owners. and it is this way because most white people find this work degrading or won't work at this pay scale because it is to hard of work. I wish you a lot of luck