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chambers 38
09-02-2004, 10:46 PM
I have been seeing in business magazines (small business opportunities) that you can start a lawn care company with only 1000.00$ and less?? Now I my self am about to start my owen lawn care company and i cant see how this is ,, do you ??
I want to know if anyone else has done this and what did you do to make your self successful in this business (the magical book isn't saying how??)
thanks for your time
:confused:

grass_cuttin_fool
09-02-2004, 10:49 PM
I havent seen it, all i can think of is a $500 car a push mower, a curved shaft trimmer, and a push broom lol for 1000 bux

lqmustang
09-02-2004, 10:53 PM
I started with about $4k for equipment, (already owned a truck) maybe someone could start with $1k, but they are not gonna have very solid equipment. I like to consider myself fairly successful in my 2nd year full time.

grass_cuttin_fool
09-02-2004, 10:59 PM
I was joking really, but in the city many of the lots are so small and most are fenced that several companys cater to them and make a good living with several push mowers and pick up trucks. So I could see where you could start for $1000. Another thing is it worded that with $1000 invested??????? It might be that with $1000 up front they will get you started

MJLsLawnCareNmoreLLC
09-02-2004, 11:36 PM
If you have a truck and trailer thats already to go, Id say yeah and build up from that. If not you will dump a grand into a decent trailer pulling truck.

ALarsh
09-02-2004, 11:40 PM
It can be done. Its gonna take a load of work thoughÖ Get ready. Go get a push mower and a broom. Thatís all that is needed to start. I didn't start with a trimmer; just make sure you get close to all edges with that push mower.

You are limited to a walking distance area though.

ElephantNest
09-02-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by ALarsh
It can be done. Its gonna take a load of work thoughÖ Get ready. Go get a push mower and a broom. Thatís all that is needed to start. I didn't start with a trimmer; just make sure you get close to all edges with that push mower.

You are limited to a walking distance area though.

LMAO

No trimming huh? I guess no edging either? That's one way to get more customers. NOT

That's like painting a room but skipping the trim and baseboards.

Albemarle Lawn
09-02-2004, 11:44 PM
In 1995.

Now as a "high acreage specialist" we spend a little more on stuff....I have a JD1600 WAM and a 2004 C5500 Crew Cab truck, not to mention about $350,000 of other stuff laying around and some expensive commercial real estate.

KB

Firstclasslawn
09-03-2004, 01:04 AM
Ok look here is the BASIC and I mean BASIC stuff that you MUST have
commercial weedeater- $200.00
Edger Attachment- $99.00
Decent residential Mower- I reccomend Toro-$299.00
Shity Blower- $100.00 or backpack blower- $250.00

and this stuff is bare minimum--you could put it all in the back of a truck but I would reccomend getting loan from bank and getting a trailer--enclosed at that so you do NOT have any theft or rain damage---Private message me witha ny questions, I will help in any way I can---But Let me tell you that this is my first season in the business and I make $2700.00 a month only working 1 day a week, So I am happy considering that hardly any job will pay you $2700.00 a month to only work one day a week

No Lawncares
09-03-2004, 01:05 AM
Wow one thousand dollars is not much. This is my first year and I spent six thousand to get started, and have put another $800 into second set of hand helds.

Firstclasslawn
09-03-2004, 01:06 AM
also my credit sucks but I managed to get a bank credit card for $2500.00 and that started me off decent, that will at least cover a trailer, I bought my enclosed trailer for 2k at lowes, bust the tailight out or the license plate light out and they will automatically deduct $500.00 from the cost :0) My little secret, call me what you like :0)

lennonpaul
09-03-2004, 10:00 AM
can i call you a criminal, how about just a dic* head or will you settle for scrub?

kingenterprises
09-03-2004, 10:54 AM
Chambers 38, In your signature, Troops is misspelled. I thought you would want to know.

In addition to a full time job brokering Chicken, I now run a tractor business. However right after I graduated College I had a lawn service business. I began and ran the business for less than 1000. Keep in mind this was in 1992 dollars. I also upgraded equipment quickly.

Cheap 6 X 10 single axle trailer 300
Used 12.5 Craftsman Rider 300
Cheap Lowes Blower 90
Used Stihl trimmer 100

Total was 790. Granted I owned my own truck.

You can start cheap and upgrade equipment as you grow your business. OR, you can borrow some money and buy good, solid commercial equipment now. For about 4K you can be set up with good equipment and present a more respectable image to your customers.

Also keep this in mind. Very soon after I started this lil business, I began upgrading to commercial equipment. If I had bought the commercial equipment in the first place, I would have spent less money in the long run. Everything I started my business with was replaced in the first year.

May your success be more than you can imagine. I wish you all the best.

King Enterprises

txlawnking
09-03-2004, 11:08 AM
If I could have started out with only a $1,000 investment, I would have. Firstclass summed it up. If you don't have the bare minimum equipment to do the job properly, you probly won't last long. You can do it like King Ent. sez, but that used, Homeowner grade gear can fail on you when you least expect or need it too. I have $10K invested in gear ( not including my truck, which I already had ), and I still need one more mower.. It can be done, but as dificult as it's been for me this year, I wouldn't want to try it with the kind of equipment that only a grand will provide.. Your book lied.

Gravely_Man
09-03-2004, 11:39 AM
Sure you could start out in this business with just $1000.00 but not do the level of work that we all strive to do on this site. That is purely entry level access to a business and not the capital you need to be really cost efficient. That is why commercial equipment costs more then homeowner level equipment. Commercial equipment is more durable and performs the job in a more efficient manner.

Gravely_Man

ztoro
09-03-2004, 12:08 PM
if you have good credit you can easily start out with decent equipment for 1000. YOu just need to make sure you can get the clients. Once your cash is coming in the door the 1000 dollar investment is done you now have cash flow to start paying your monthly equipment bills.........

maelawncare
09-03-2004, 12:23 PM
i started with a $100 murray from wal-mart, a $100 weedeater line trimmer, and a $100 weedeater blower all from wal-mart. And just put them in the truck of my sisters car. That was when i was 13. Now i have over $50,000 in mowing equipment. I mowed 3 acre yards with that murray, and i left a darn good cut too. So i started in this biz with $300 bucks. Paid my sis gas money and that was it. That was 7 years ago.

parkwest
09-03-2004, 12:37 PM
Sounds more like you guys are talking about starting a lawn mowing "JOB" than a lawn mowing business. Most of you guys make it sound like all you need are the "basic" tools to mow with and magically you will have a business spring to life.

Let's add things like:
advertising, insurance, computers and software, phones, business plan, organizational chart, marketing research and sales, etc...

If you think have a good plan, then take it to the bank and see what they think of your plan to start a business. Maybe your local banker might have some good suggestions or let you know what you may have overlooked.

txlawnking
09-03-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by parkwest
Sounds more like you guys are talking about starting a lawn mowing "JOB" than a lawn mowing business. Most of you guys make it sound like all you need are the "basic" tools to mow with and magically you will have a business spring to life.

Let's add things like:
advertising, insurance, computers and software, phones, business plan, organizational chart, marketing research and sales, etc...

If you think have a good plan, then take it to the bank and see what they think of your plan to start a business. Maybe your local banker might have some good suggestions or let you know what you may have overlooked.

Sorry, I foolishly left this part of the equation out.. If you want to get to the heart of the matter.. this advice of his is absolutely PRICELESS!!!!! I should have aplied this advice to my own biz.. Take care of the "business expenses" first, then invest in equipment...

lsylvain
09-03-2004, 02:15 PM
Simple, $1000, and lease truck trailer, mowers, trimmers, etc, etc, etc, from the person who ran the ad.

chambers 38
09-03-2004, 02:58 PM
Now I'm my self also found this fare fetch because i have done research he and only found thread about hi prised start ups.
BUT I'm my self am going to start my lco with at least 10,000.00 because i need to be successful I don't like doing things half ass anyways.I plane on needing 1.000.00 just for adds and customer relations

3,500.00 for equipment
3,500.00 for enclosed trailer
and the rest for the business to build on

DennisF
09-03-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by chambers 38
Now I'm my self also found this fare fetch because i have done research he and only found thread about hi prised start ups.
BUT I'm my self am going to start my lco with at least 10,000.00 because i need to be successful I don't like doing things half ass anyways.I plane on needing 1.000.00 just for adds and customer relations

3,500.00 for equipment
3,500.00 for enclosed trailer
and the rest for the business to build on

You don't need an enclosed trailer. A 6X12 open trailer can be had for less than $900 here in Florida. Put your money in good mowing equipment. Hustler, Exmark, Stihl...etc. Later when the business is growing you can invest in a better trailer. The most important thing to remember is that if your mowing equipment is unreliable you will be seen the same way. Quality workmanship and everyday reliability are the most important things to being sucessful in lawncare.

MTR
09-03-2004, 09:33 PM
3,500.00 for equipment
3,500.00 for enclosed trailer
and the rest for the business to build on [/B][/QUOTE]


What kind of equipment for $ 3500? A decent hydro mowers will almost eat up 7 K easily...and if you don't have good mowing equipment then it is not going to help for this biz
I started out with gear drive mower and let me tell you, I would not invest in lower-end equipment IF I had a chance to start over again. Hydro all the way... and the only way.

Anthony-MB
09-04-2004, 12:46 AM
Going back to the original post..

The ad you saw for $1000 to start a lawn mow business
Is most likely a down payment
for a trailer and equipment and training,

and then you'd have to make monthly payments.
kinda like a franchise.

payup

Precision
09-04-2004, 01:53 PM
I started this year.

$1000 buys you GL insurance and a few months on your truck.

$1000 on a good used 36" walkbehind

$400 on a back pack blower $150 if used

$300 on a stick edger $100 if used

$300 on a weedeater $100 if used

$1200 on an open trailer that you will quickly outgrow or $2700 on one with electric brakes and everything (NEW)

Then you have your incorporation fees, advertising, expendables.

You can own a scrubby job for $1000. But to get a business started you need to invest some more cash.

I have about $30K spent on equipment and consumables with about $45K in contracted income. Costs money to make money.

chambers 38
09-04-2004, 07:12 PM
Well i agree it take money to make money. But thats in hi demand with me and not making any wher I'm at. This is what i have on my table
ALL NEW
36" exmark metro hp
stihl trimmer, backpack blower, edger
and all of this out the door for 3315.95 with sulky and mulcher install free :) i like my dealer
The only thing about the trailer is i can get new 7x16 fro 3477.50
also out the door. I just don't want to have all this stolen out of a open trailer, or i would just use me current trailer
OR is all the stores about their equipment being stolen not so in Sarasota??

Scag48
09-04-2004, 07:55 PM
Oh come on fellas, you guys are thinking about this all wrong. I'm sure the article or whatever wasn't talking about having a "legitimate" business for 1K, but a "scrubby" setup can be had for 1K, easy. Figure this, just about everyone has a lawn to mow, just use your own mower for a while, that takes care of that. Everyone has a car, a 21" will fit in just about anything, except some small cars. Okay so now you have a mower and a way to transport it for FREE. Let's see, get yourself a trimmer and maybe a blower for around 400 for both. Then just keep working, pay for some advertising, it can be done for under 1K. Everyone has to start somewhere.

lawnman_scott
09-04-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Scag48
Oh come on fellas, you guys are thinking about this all wrong. I'm sure the article or whatever wasn't talking about having a "legitimate" business for 1K, but a "scrubby" setup can be had for 1K, easy. Figure this, just about everyone has a lawn to mow, just use your own mower for a while, that takes care of that. Everyone has a car, a 21" will fit in just about anything, except some small cars. Okay so now you have a mower and a way to transport it for FREE. Let's see, get yourself a trimmer and maybe a blower for around 400 for both. Then just keep working, pay for some advertising, it can be done for under 1K. Everyone has to start somewhere. Its the way i started. You could call it a "scrubby job" and not a business, but it was the start of a pretty sucessful small business in my case. It says you can start that way, not continue that way for years and years.

theweedman
09-04-2004, 10:01 PM
it can be done with a low amt. of money up front, obviously it will be a ghetto operation like mine, but everybody has gotta start somewheres. $300 is what i started with this year. i have a truck that is paid for, i bought a cheap trimmer and blower with the $300 and charged a push mower at 12 months no interst at the home cheapo for around $500. (it was the only way i could possibly afford a mower right now) i've been upgrading my equipment as i make extra money, i've already payed for the mower, and been able to upgrade to a better trimmer, edger and blower. just working on getting a bigger mower and trailer, then i'll be set for next season. and if i fail miserably, atleast i'll have some decent stuff to cut my own lawn with, and not have to worry about money owed. :)





Originally posted by chambers 38
I have been seeing in business magazines (small business opportunities) that you can start a lawn care company with only 1000.00$ and less?? Now I my self am about to start my owen lawn care company and i cant see how this is ,, do you ??
I want to know if anyone else has done this and what did you do to make your self successful in this business (the magical book isn't saying how??)
thanks for your time
:confused:

theweedman
09-04-2004, 10:12 PM
hows the 36" metro hp? i am thinking of getting one. i have seen them used for under 2k. i am also looking to get a 5x8 enclosed trailer,.. because i'm also concerned with having stuff stolen while i'm in backyards. right now whatever i'm not using at a job gets locked up with this heavy wire bike lock. i have had stuff stolen b4 when i was working for somebody else. i went in a mcdonalds for lunch, came out to find a couple of guys taking 50lb bags of fert out the back of the truck.. (':angry:')


Originally posted by chambers 38
Well i agree it take money to make money. But thats in hi demand with me and not making any wher I'm at. This is what i have on my table
ALL NEW
36" exmark metro hp
stihl trimmer, backpack blower, edger
and all of this out the door for 3315.95 with sulky and mulcher install free :) i like my dealer
The only thing about the trailer is i can get new 7x16 fro 3477.50
also out the door. I just don't want to have all this stolen out of a open trailer, or i would just use me current trailer
OR is all the stores about their equipment being stolen not so in Sarasota?? :angry:

chambers 38
09-05-2004, 10:14 PM
theweedman,, I haven't purchased the metro yet but when I demo it, was awesome big bang for the bucks$ (in my opinion)

I just think that if I'm patient to what for the commercial equipment it would be better then if i go out their with my 2year old craftsman 42" and my homeliht stuff while looking professional then looking and having professional equipment??
But then again its apparent that others have done well with the stuff got and working on getting the professional equipment, but how do the customer's handle this and what approach do you take when te customer's says , well you look professional but the equipment is'ent?? or what do they say if anything???
hmhmh??? I'm thinking again. I think its because of this BORING storm that I'm trapped in my home BUT i hope others are going to me OK north of me

theweedman
09-05-2004, 10:33 PM
i hear ya.. i could have got some better jobs if i had a bigger mower. i had a potential customer comment on the 21" honda i had.. he's like , thats all you got? hehe i can't say i blame him. anyways, i'm tired of having to turn down the bigger lawns because of equipment capabilities. i'm gonna finance a 36" mower soon. i finally got a nice echo straight shaft trimmer and echo blade edger yesterday, got to use them on a one time job yesterday.. they worked great compared to the toro trimmer i was using. how much where they asking for the 36" metro hp? do they bend on the prices a bit for the sale? i'm going in to the dealer this week to try to haggle with them a bit. i'm looking at spending no more than 3,000. i'm considering looking into the toro prolines too.

theweedman,, I haven't purchased the metro yet but when I demo it, was awesome big bang for the bucks$ (in my opinion)

I just think that if I'm patient to what for the commercial equipment it would be better then if i go out their with my 2year old craftsman 42" and my homeliht stuff while looking professional then looking and having professional equipment??
But then again its apparent that others have done well with the stuff got and working on getting the professional equipment, but how do the customer's handle this and what approach do you take when te customer's says , well you look professional but the equipment is'ent?? or what do they say if anything???
hmhmh??? I'm thinking again. I think its because of this BORING storm that I'm trapped in my home BUT i hope others are going to me OK north of me

theweedman
09-05-2004, 10:37 PM
bank credit cards always suck because of those interest charges, i had one at one time that was eating a hole in my pocket. never again! :) my homedepot card has done well to get me a few things i needed to get going, at no interest. it'd be cool to get a card like that at a place that actually had some good lawn equipment tho! :)

also my credit sucks but I managed to get a bank credit card for $2500.00 and that started me off decent, that will at least cover a trailer, I bought my enclosed trailer for 2k at lowes, bust the tailight out or the license plate light out and they will automatically deduct $500.00 from the cost :0) My little secret, call me what you like :0)

chambers 38
09-05-2004, 10:46 PM
OK my dealer hoked me up (on a cash deal) 3315.95 out the door new metro hp, and all the trimmings this shihl trimmer edger and blower all for 3315.95 with some extras installed. now her's what I'm trying to do regarding credit, just go to your bank and see if they give you what you think you should need and go to the dealer and just deal with cash. PRICES WILL GO DOWN or you need to go to someone who will!! the metro is NOT hydro

theweedman
09-06-2004, 12:15 AM
makes sense. thanks for the advice, i'll certainly try my bank first. i realise the metro isn't hydro. i can't really afford to pay for a hydro, and i don't want to buy a used mower to start with., just looking to get a decent mower to start, something with somewhat of a warranty.

OK my dealer hoked me up (on a cash deal) 3315.95 out the door new metro hp, and all the trimmings this shihl trimmer edger and blower all for 3315.95 with some extras installed. now her's what I'm trying to do regarding credit, just go to your bank and see if they give you what you think you should need and go to the dealer and just deal with cash. PRICES WILL GO DOWN or you need to go to someone who will!! the metro is NOT hydro

parkwest
09-07-2004, 04:38 PM
Sorry, I foolishly left this part of the equation out.. If you want to get to the heart of the matter.. this advice of his is absolutely PRICELESS!!!!! I should have aplied this advice to my own biz.. Take care of the "business expenses" first, then invest in equipment...

Thanks for the kind words, txking.

lottlawncare
10-25-2004, 02:34 AM
you guys are pretty conceited considering the work you do. you can get started for $1000 easily. A lot of the stuff you guys buy is overkill. $1000 worth of low grade equipment will get you going and will earn you at least 10 times that amount. Stick with the basics. if you don't have money to buy commercial do with what you got unitll you can buy the good stuff. if you're willing to work a little harder, a 21" push walmart mower can make money just like the $10000 overkill mowers some of these guys use.

MTR
10-25-2004, 07:54 PM
OK my dealer hoked me up (on a cash deal) 3315.95 out the door new metro hp, and all the trimmings this shihl trimmer edger and blower all for 3315.95 with some extras installed. now her's what I'm trying to do regarding credit, just go to your bank and see if they give you what you think you should need and go to the dealer and just deal with cash. PRICES WILL GO DOWN or you need to go to someone who will!! the metro is NOT hydro


You need a TTHP or Stander as you main mower, trust me. The metro hp is a fine mower BUT it will exhaust your energy mowing 15-30 lawns with peerless gear system. The ability to do instant reverse is major issue and that will suck until you are able to get a BDP 10 pump twin hydro mower and ride back and forth on sulky all day! Money will flow like hydro, don't get so tired by the end of day. Go ahead and buy a gear sucky, sucky, you will regret. I knew what I have missed when I started out with a gear, so just a little FYI.

regards,

jbell113
10-25-2004, 07:57 PM
I have been seeing in business magazines (small business opportunities) that you can start a lawn care company with only 1000.00$ and less?? Now I my self am about to start my owen lawn care company and i cant see how this is ,, do you ??
I want to know if anyone else has done this and what did you do to make your self successful in this business (the magical book isn't saying how??)
thanks for your time
:confused:
I believe what they mean is, a $1000 down to finance a complete setup

chambers 38
10-25-2004, 08:46 PM
No 1000.00$ that all

jbell113
10-25-2004, 08:55 PM
Did the ad say what kind of equipment you could get for a grand.

chipk1
10-25-2004, 09:12 PM
I started out 2 years ago with a used 36 dynamark mower (150.00), a ryobi trimmer/edger (200.00), and a weedeater blower(100.00 I think). Built up my accounts to 48 as of now. Just sold my yardman 42" lawn tractor today that I was using until last week for 350.00 (i only paid 100.00 for it last year payup ). Finally built up enough savings to by a new 50" Dixie Chopper Coatsville outright last week. I also along the way upgraded to Stihl blower, trimmer, and edger.

SO I can say that I am living proof that one can start a lawncare biz for under a 1000.00 and succeed. Just a lot of aggravation, persistence, hard work, and being a bit thrifty. If you put away all you possibly can, you can build up quickly.

BTW, I was no rich man by any stretch of the imagination when I started this endeavor and this has been my only source of income from day one.

chambers 38
10-25-2004, 09:40 PM
jbell113, If I could get a package for a grand boy would I have jumped on it
But no Iím talking all you have to start with is 1000.00$ and thatís all you have

. Chipk1,, The way you started is about the same way as I am having to start I have a full time job but it barely cover the bills I have now, so Iím hoping that I will work during the fall and I can at least get a good start on the upcoming spring and build my business, I know Iím looking at allot of hard work but thatís not a big deal at all
And I think I will appreciate my business and work more by knowing I started with not a whole lot.

chipk1
10-25-2004, 09:49 PM
jbell113, If I could get a package for a grand boy would I have jumped on it
But no Iím talking all you have to start with is 1000.00$ and thatís all you have

. Chipk1,, The way you started is about the same way as I am having to start I have a full time job but it barely cover the bills I have now, so Iím hoping that I will work during the fall and I can at least get a good start on the upcoming spring and build my business, I know Iím looking at allot of hard work but thatís not a big deal at all
And I think I will appreciate my business and work more by knowing I started with not a whole lot.

Just because you have inferior equipment doesn't mean that you have to charge lower prices. Most customers don't care what your equipment is all they care about is the outcome of your service. Yes, it will take 2-3 times longer to do the same job when you start out low budget, but if you save your money wisely, it will pay of greatly in the long run if you don't have 10k-20k of debt to deal with.

chambers 38
10-25-2004, 10:07 PM
Thanks and great points
p.s love the web site something I'm hoping to have shortly