Reputation Points

[Critical Care]

Can't seem to edit the second poll choice.
It should read "Like it"

[GreenMonster]

I pay almost no attention to it.

For the most part, I know who to look for (and who to ignore) when I need advice.

edit: sorry, neutral.

[D Felix]

Though I haven't been over on AS for a couple of weeks to know whether there is new software there yet, you could rate individual *threads* on AS, based on a 0-5 star system. This was shown in the thread list... Obviously, not all threads were rated, most weren't. But the really informative ones were. And it took more than one vote to show what the rating was too, which is better than the way individuals are rated here....

I like the idea of rating threads much more than rating individuals. If I'm even at all curious what someone's rating is, I have to hover the cursor over the green box to find out... Then I have to remember what each saying is, whether it's plus or minus.... Not worth it to me.

Rate the threads, not the people.


Dan

[odin]

I just tryed to give mac and geogunn some points it wont let me ..thats stupid it says spread the love around...I gave a lot of people points how many you got to give out before you can give some to somebody you gave some to already.

Mac has made some good threads and i cant give him no points for them ..that sucks .

[mbricker]

ditto here exactly what Odin said

[Avery]

I have not payed any attention to it. How do you tell how many points someone has?

[odin]

I have not payed any attention to it. How do you tell how many points someone has?


I dunno .all i know i tryed to give mac some point or points and it wont let me says spread the love around give somebody else spome points lol

[Avery]

I dunno .all i know i tryed to give mac some point or points and it wont let me says spread the love around give somebody else spome points lol
You feeling the love yet? I just gave you some points. Good ones.... :drinkup:

[Acute Cut]

Read the thread started by me called "Stop limiting my Goodie Points". It addresses this exact problem.

I think D Felix has a Superb idea. Lets rate the thread, not the people.
Here, ill start it, i give a 5 (SUPER RATING) to the Calander Girls thread in the off topic forums. ;)

[Critical Care]

You know, I was thinking about this, and rating the thread versus the person would be better. However... and I bet we all know this, is that there will always be some people who will "ding" the threads of those who they don't like, while others they will always give points to... regardless of the thread content.

Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world made up of perfect people, and I for one would probably have a tough time giving high marks to the threads of certain individuals.

[Acute Cut]

Critical Care:
But if you rate the thread then it doesnt matter who wrote it. For example, if i started a thread and you despised me, but you learned from the thread, then give it good rating. Either way it wont affect me personally at all.

[Critical Care]

I hear you, Acute Cut, however doesn't it make sense that if someone dislikes you then it's going to be hard for that person to remain unbiased towards what you post? It's kind of like the diehard republicans and democrats who say "I've alway's voted along the party line, and I always will." Some people are just deadset in their ways regardless of "content matter."

[D Felix]

From what I've seen over on AS, even if someone who starts the thread isn't generally well liked, if there is a LOT of good info in the thread (and people take the time to vote), the thread will be rated.

I've never bothered to try to find out how the rating is done there. I know that a rating doesn't show up most times if I vote for a certain rating on a certain thread. So I suppose several people have to vote, then the vote is averaged. PL would probably know more about it, and I doubt it would be hard for Sean(LS) to ask Darrin(AS) if PL doesn't know.

Most threads on AS are NOT rated. Only the really good ones are usually rated.

Case in point to your "biased-ness" worries:
Say I start a thread, post the original message stating that "Fabric is necessary under ALL mulches" (BTW, I never would actually say this). As many know (all SHOULD), that statement is widely accepted as UNTRUE. So, lets say 10 other people correct me on this. You don't like me, but the content is good, past my original post. I would imagine that you would still vote for a certain rating if you felt the need to vote.

Oh, one more thing. The thread ratings on AS are only positive ratings. AFAIK, there are NO negative ratings possible....


Dan

[J.Gordon]

I pay almost no attention to it.

For the most part, I know who to look for (and who to ignore) when I need advice.

edit: sorry, neutral.

I agree with GreenMonster on this one. It doesn’t take very long to figure out who is giving knowledgeable information and who has a biased opinion that just want to raise their post counts. I personally don’t pay any attention to the who’s-who because I don’t care what their reputation is. I can figure that out myself!

[proenterprises]

i have had 2 negative feedbacks in the last 2 days, for the simple reason that I am a teenager. This is out of control! :angry:

[Turf Medic]

i have had 2 negative feedbacks in the last 2 days, for the simple reason that I am a teenager. This is out of control! :angry:

Don't worry Sean is going to get rid of the reputation points program on Monday, he said so in this post dated 10-07-04 and I haven't noticed a retraction by him.


20 pages of replies and thousands of viewings of this thread...wow

I am going to get rid of the rating system on Monday. I have read enough and did not think it would create such a whirlwind of controversy. Unless there is an overwhelming response to keep the feature, it should be gone by the beginning of the week.

[proenterprises]

Don't worry Sean is going to get rid of the reputation points program on Monday, he said so in this post dated 10-07-04 and I haven't noticed a retraction by him.


Thank God, Im so sick of this amateur bs with others leaving me negative because what I say is "immature" or "im just a kid"

Thanks Sean.

[Turf Medic]

Thank God, Im so sick of this amateur bs with others leaving me negative because what I say is "immature" or "im just a kid"

Thanks Sean.


Now before you get too excited, he didn't say which Monday :cool2:

[proenterprises]

Now before you get too excited, he didn't say which Monday :cool2:

lol turfmedic, yeah, however, sean is a man of his word from what i have learned. i am sure he will get it done without stringing us along :)

[all ferris]

I think the points are pointless. If you start thread and you don't like what others are telling you then ignore the advice. However, If you like the advice then take it into consideration. Just because someone has a good reputation doesn't mean that they have good advice.

[Tvov]

So what exactly happens if you get a load of "negative" points? Before we get rid of them, how about we give negative points to each other just to see what happens? :p

[proenterprises]

wonderful, i got negative for what i posted in this thread :rolleyes:

[proenterprises]

thanks to whoever thinks their real funny. just checked my profile, somone left me a negative with the comment "another neg --haha"

whats wrong with you? is this pre-school?

[work_it]

Obviously they're gone now. I don't see any ratings next to anyone's name anymore. Either that or my settings are all messed up.....AGAIN!!! :angry:

[Avery]

Your setting are messed up. They are still there.

[work_it]

Why doesn't that suprise me? lol I hate this stinking computer. I really need a Apple Mac so I don't have to deal with this second rate crap Bill Gates and Microsoft puts out.

[olderthandirt]

And were all alive and the world continues to revolve, mourning will arrive and night will follow, The Chinese will continue to over populate and steal jobs, The middle east will continue to be a mess, And the b!tching will still go on.

[work_it]

And some of us still like you even though you are a d*ck at times. ;) So what's your point Mac? Do you have a good way to fix my computer settings other than drop kicking it off the porch? ;)

[olderthandirt]

I would suggest just running it over! Warm truck, no exertion just 100% satisfaction. Just pros helping pros

Mac

[work_it]

ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll take before and after pics when the day comes.

[proenterprises]

hey-to the really cool guy who keeps leaving me meg...at least have the guts to sign it! no need to be like a little kid hitting and runing

[proenterprises]

whoever jjust gave me a neg "one more won't hurt"-your jokes have paid off, you are going to be reported to a moderator.

[Tvov]

Hey, hey! How come Pro is getting all the points? lol

Just goes to show how ridiculous this point thing is!

[crawdad]

whoever jjust gave me a neg "one more won't hurt"-your jokes have paid off, you are going to be reported to a moderator.
ya, like she gives a sh!t She won't even give me points, and I gave her some one time! I'm sending you a positive, just because that's the kinda guy I am.
Crawdad

[mbricker]

Ok, I just spotted a guy who joined Sept, '04, has made ONE post, and "is on a distinguished road."

I gues I am now convinced this is all a bunch of bs.

[proenterprises]

the whole system is corrupted. this weekend alone i got almost 8 negatives from people thinking it was a funny joke to leave them. and get this, they were so cool, they didnt even sign them, just left profane remarks.

[Critical Care]

Here’s a thought…

Lets assume that you’re a smart cookie and run a forum on legal matters. Most of your members are made up of paralegals, attorneys, and other people in the legal profession. Do you think that it will improve your website by introducing a reputation point into the system where members can become famous, or “auras of light”? Can you imagine a couple of superior court judges bickering over points? Doesn’t seem to fit, does it.

And, as ironic as it may seem, but maybe it’s wrong to compare us to attorneys and other professionals; after all, some people are here just for the entertainment value.

Personally, I feel that until we can elevate ourselves to a professional status, then in the eyes of our clients we will always be viewed as inexperienced and uneducated mower pushers.

[Turf Medic]

20 pages of replies and thousands of viewings of this thread...wow

I am going to get rid of the rating system on Monday. I have read enough and did not think it would create such a whirlwind of controversy. Unless there is an overwhelming response to keep the feature, it should be gone by the beginning of the week.


Anybody seen Sean, looks like the poll is running 2 to 1 in favor of dumping the point system. Above post was from 10-7-04

[Turf Medic]

20 pages of replies and thousands of viewings of this thread...wow

I am going to get rid of the rating system on Monday. I have read enough and did not think it would create such a whirlwind of controversy. Unless there is an overwhelming response to keep the feature, it should be gone by the beginning of the week.

Anybody seen Sean, looks like the poll is running 2 to 1 in favor of dumping the point system. Above post was from 10-7-04

This post cost me reputation points by two different members, of course there was no names attached, which appears to be the norm. Figured by repeating the post several people will get positive votes, since the two members that dinged me will have to give reputation to 20 others before they can ding me again :cool2:

[proenterprises]

This post cost me reputation points by two different members, of course there was no names attached, which appears to be the norm. Figured by repeating the post several people will get positive votes, since the two members that dinged me will have to give reputation to 20 others before they can ding me again :cool2:


yes sir turf medic, you see what ive been saying now. yep, these guys arent even man enough to sign their own dings....sure says alot about them :rolleyes:

[olderthandirt]

Anybody seen Sean, looks like the poll is running 2 to 1 in favor of dumping the point system. Above post was from 10-7-04
Actually its running almost 50%-50% from neutral position. If you don't like it ignore it, if you like it use it.

Mac

[Turf Medic]

Actually its running almost 50%-50% from neutral position. If you don't like it ignore it, if you like it use it.

Mac


Not sure about your math, if you give all the neutral votes to the positive side it comes out about 50-50 (36-34) but if you discount the neutral or split them down the middle it is more like 60%-40% in favor of dumping it. And to correct my earlier post that isn't 2 to 1 it is 3 to 2 in favor of dumping.

My only thought is, when it comes to opinions which is what this thread is, how do you give a point or a ding either way, unless you are trying to dump votes so you can give someone a second vote.


But now you can give me another ding if you so desire :cool2:

[olderthandirt]

First have you seen my name after any of your dings? If I ding you its becouse of something you said that I strongly disagree with and my name will be with it. Its not worth worrying about from my point of view, and I don't know why your complaining your not glowing red, so apparently you gained points along with losing some. It would be nice if the system captured a name, but it does not so that is what we live with. And only 70 votes out of 23k members have voted so it does not seem like a pressing matter to most.JMO

Mac

[Turf Medic]

First have you seen my name after any of your dings? If I ding you its becouse of something you said that I strongly disagree with and my name will be with it. Its not worth worrying about from my point of view, and I don't know why your complaining your not glowing red, so apparently you gained points along with losing some. It would be nice if the system captured a name, but it does not so that is what we live with. And only 70 votes out of 23k members have voted so it does not seem like a pressing matter to most.JMO

Mac


I was basing my earlier post on one that Sean had posted saying he was going to dump the points program, based on the number of pages and views in another thread. My question was basically, what had happened to his decision, his board, his choice what to do, but it has been my experience in my limited time here that he usually follows through. Didn't really understand why he had made a statement like this and then dropped it.

Below is the post that I am referring to.

20 pages of replies and thousands of viewings of this thread...wow

I am going to get rid of the rating system on Monday. I have read enough and did not think it would create such a whirlwind of controversy. Unless there is an overwhelming response to keep the feature, it should be gone by the beginning of the week.

And you are correct about the fact that you put your name after the dings you give. Below is the post that to use your words "you strongly disagreed with" so you felt a need to give a negative reputation point on, and yes you did sign it. But hey whatever rocks your boat.

Thank you Sean, so pleased with your decision I even sent you some points :cool2:

[Acute Cut]

TurfMedic:
You could always do like some people do and whine about every little point they lose and say it is for no reason. Soon you will get pity points galore and have two or three squares.

The dings i hate is when they dont even write why or anything at all. I get some love for ya later after i shoot some of my load on some others. ;)

[Turf Medic]

One of the most fascinating things about this reputation thing, at least to me. Is how it seems to have changed a lot of the input here, some of the people that used to post a lot of useful information, seem to be posting just to post. They have a lot of reputation point 2 or 3 green squares, but now the posts seem to be either hyper-critical of another individual or back slapping another member, and mostly off topic or of no technical value. No where near the intelligent helpful information that they used to provide. JMO

[leadarrows]

Some of you have made a whole thing out of this when it really could have been just used occasionally for really good info or out and out lies. Using it all the time for every little thing just makes it useless. People aren't getting or giving points for good info there giving or taking based on whether they agree or disagree with opinions. Thats why I hate people and prefer the company of dogs. There are so many immature people it runes every thing. Turn the dang thing off or at least don't allow it's use for off topic discussions. If it's turned off maybe we can talk about something else for a while.......but no if we turn it off now I bet we have to talk about that for ever. LOL

[Critical Care]

One of the most fascinating things about this reputation thing, at least to me. Is how it seems to have changed a lot of the input here, some of the people that used to post a lot of useful information, seem to be posting just to post. They have a lot of reputation point 2 or 3 green squares, but now the posts seem to be either hyper-critical of another individual or back slapping another member, and mostly off topic or of no technical value. No where near the intelligent helpful information that they used to provide. JMO

Absolutely correct, Turf Medic, and I believe that a number of people see it this way, and Leadarrows you’re right too. Human nature will cause the system to fail.

What was “theoretically” intended to encourage and acknowledge good posts has turned out to be “entertainment tonight.” Regardless of what the majority thinks of it, it has succeeded in providing feedback, and a number of posts. This in itself may have been an underlying or unforeseen objective that Sean has adhered to, despite the maturity level issue. The maturity issue of it Leadarrows may have been provoked initially by grading people as “auras of light”, “becoming famous”, and so forth. These terms were not needed, but were used unfortunately for their intertainment value.

[Turf Medic]

Absolutely correct, Turf Medic, and I believe that a number of people see it this way, and Leadarrows you’re right too. Human nature will cause the system to fail.

What was “theoretically” intended to encourage and acknowledge good posts has turned out to be “entertainment tonight.” Regardless of what the majority thinks of it, it has succeeded in providing feedback, and a number of posts. This in itself may have been an underlying or unforeseen objective that Sean has adhered to, despite the maturity level issue. The maturity issue of it Leadarrows may have been provoked initially by grading people as “auras of light”, “becoming famous”, and so forth. These terms were not needed, but were used unfortunately for their intertainment value.


For the entertainment of the members or the entertainment of the owners, moderators and sponsors. Hopefully not the latter elsewise no better than throwing a bunch of different colored balls into a monkey cage and watching them fight over them.