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LASTEC
10-17-2004, 09:22 PM
It would be kool to see where the green industry stands, OK is it Bush Or Kerry? :dizzy:

bugspit
10-17-2004, 09:29 PM
It would be kool to see where the green industry stands, OK is it Bush Or Kerry? :dizzy:

your answer:

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=77527&page=4&highlight=poll

Kelly's Landscaping
10-17-2004, 10:35 PM
Were more conservative here then the military is and why shouldnít we be its our money they plan on spending I am always for the guy that spends the least.

I think this summer LASTEC I may be looking into that 96-inch mower you got that thing could make my life a lot easier.

LASTEC
10-17-2004, 10:35 PM
i have to say i'm a Bush man

trimmerhead
10-17-2004, 10:40 PM
Bush all the way! Kerry's a loser!

rdran5
10-17-2004, 10:40 PM
I am voting for the guy Bin Laden hopes doesn't get elected.

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10-17-2004, 10:57 PM
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Kelly's Landscaping
10-17-2004, 11:00 PM
It may not LASTEC is a sponsor.

impactlandscaping
10-17-2004, 11:05 PM
Good call Kelly's...sponsorship does have its privileges :drinkup:

Lawnworks
10-17-2004, 11:07 PM
Dittohead here!!

Fvstringpicker
10-18-2004, 12:26 PM
I am voting for the guy Bin Laden hopes doesn't get elected.


Please point out which one that is. I'm not sure which one can't catch him and which one doesn't want to.

Shady Brook
10-18-2004, 12:33 PM
How about Badnarik? Oh thats right, no one knows who he is because they arrested him for wanting to be in a telivized debate with the "only two options" that are presented by the media. Freedom of speech you know? ;) :help:

Jay

Dodgemania
10-18-2004, 01:00 PM
It would be crazy for the lawn industry to vote against bush. He's given us the huge tax relief as far as equipment goes. I'm in my first full year after having several part-time years and the tax relief is going to keep me afloat going into next year.

bugspit
10-18-2004, 01:40 PM
Please point out which one that is. I'm not sure which one can't catch him and which one doesn't want to.

I don't what provokes you to think this, maybe it's kerrys remarks about Tora Bora? If so please read this.

http://www.collegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/10/08/416614f3ca58f

Kerry will also most likely leave the search for OBL to the police forces, rather than the US Special Forces.

I would also like for you to think about the last time you saw OBL on a video, bragging about beheadings, claiming responsibility for other attacks???

kerry and Ed will be wimps when it comes to terrorism and will raise your taxes with all of their "plans" that have so often boasted about.

Fvstringpicker
10-18-2004, 02:46 PM
I've listened to both candidates over the last few months, watched the conventions and the debates and frankly, I really don't see a whole lot of difference between the two. What both claim they will do doesn't add up with careful analysis. Neither has a real plan to fix the economy, win the war in Iraq (aka, the war on terrorism), stop the influx of illegals, etc., etc. Basically, the only thing bush has done is cut taxes and attack Iraq (right or wrong) and I don't know what kerry has done. I said before--at this point, I'm trying to figure out which one will do the least amount of damage the next four.
BTW, making tax cuts to get people to invest is much less effective than making people invest in order to get the tax cut such as sec 179. And, section 179 write-off's that caused an plethora of equipment purchases was not part of the bush tax cuts.

bugspit
10-18-2004, 03:00 PM
October 16, 2004 -- John Kerry's near-billionaire wife, Teresa, reported more than $5 million in total income last year but paid only 12.5 percent in federal taxes ó less than the average middle-class family ó according to documents released yesterday by his campaign.
Teresa Heinz Kerry reported a total income of $5,072,533, including nearly $2.8 million that escaped all federal taxes because it was on interest-free investments from state, city and other public bonds.

She paid $628,401 in federal taxes, or a rate of 12.47 percent. The average middle-class family pays more than 20 percent.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/30460.htm

jaguar4000
10-18-2004, 03:40 PM
voting for the guy Bin Laden hopes does not get elected??? Seems he has been pretty safe w/ Pres. Bush. We went for Iraq/Saddam rather than concentrating our efforts on Bin Laden- the man behind 9/11. must be voting for Kerry/Edwards. Another 4 more yrs like the last 4 and you will need more than tax releif on equipment. How bout decent paying customers to start with. Look at the customer base now -where is the profit. Everybody is busy but where is the profit? As the middle class bank accts shrink extra services such as their lawn service will be the first to go. Or maybe they will keep their lawn service- just the cheapest one in the neighborhood that does not ever make it to the bank. Good luck to all- no matter who is elected. At this point we are probably in for another tough few yrs no matter what.

Randy J
10-18-2004, 04:49 PM
I've listened to both candidates over the last few months, watched the conventions and the debates and frankly, I really don't see a whole lot of difference between the two. What both claim they will do doesn't add up with careful analysis. Neither has a real plan to fix the economy, win the war in Iraq (aka, the war on terrorism), stop the influx of illegals, etc., etc. Basically, the only thing bush has done is cut taxes and attack Iraq (right or wrong) and I don't know what kerry has done. I said before--at this point, I'm trying to figure out which one will do the least amount of damage the next four.
BTW, making tax cuts to get people to invest is much less effective than making people invest in order to get the tax cut such as sec 179. And, section 179 write-off's that caused an plethora of equipment purchases was not part of the bush tax cuts.

If I were to try to make up my mind solely on the debates, I would have a tough time deciding also - Kerry did a good job during the debates. However, look at their records. Kerry has voted to raise taxes nearly every time he's had the chance, and voted to not fund, or entirely remove some of our best military weapons, such as the B1, B2, Patriot missles, etc. He has also voted to cut funding to our intelligence gathering organizations.
Contrast that to Bush's record, including cutting taxes which has lead to an economic turn around. He also has done exactly what he said he would concerning the war on terror. Many don't agree with us going into Iraq, and there are enough other threads debating that currently open. However, he said we work to stamp out terrorism where it's found. Currently we're overseas fighting terrorists, and there have been no successful terrorists sponsered attacks on our shores since 9/11.

jaguar4000
10-18-2004, 06:05 PM
sounds like too many lawn professionals ride around all day w/ the radio tuned into Rush.

Rwise10230
10-18-2004, 09:34 PM
I'm in NC......and Edwards........(and Kerry are idiots).........need I say more?

desert rose gardening
10-18-2004, 09:55 PM
Im on the Farm and Ranch Team, Bush Chaney

Tomt
10-18-2004, 09:59 PM
I don't even listen to kerry or edwards.
If I wanted to listen to a "good" lyre I would find one of the clintons, at least bill sounds believable.
If the only choice was kerry, I wouldn't even vote.

Fvstringpicker
10-18-2004, 10:12 PM
A problem I have with kerry is that he looks like an undertaker. A problem I have with bush is that he looks like a Baptist preacher waiting for the congregation to say "Amen" when he ends a statement.

Springmeadows
10-18-2004, 10:48 PM
I think that Bush/Cheney is the only way to go. Do I agree with everything he says, no. Bush is man that has deep convictions about America and who we all are; Kerry thinks we are all stupid. He says he has a plan for everything - just do everything opposite of what Bush did. No Iraq, no tax relief, no Afghanistan, just hide in the hills and then come out after its all over and whine/moan.

HighGrass
10-18-2004, 10:48 PM
sounds like too many lawn professionals ride around all day w/ the radio tuned into Rush.
Actually you can get pretty balanced thought now and then from Bill O'Rielly. You also have to read the WS journal. They are pretty straight shooters. you have to stay away from the globe and the NY times though. rush and Franken sort of cancel each other out. Though I think franken can be a bit of a putz.

HighGrass
10-18-2004, 10:49 PM
A problem I have with kerry is that he looks like an undertaker. A problem I have with bush is that he looks like a Baptist preacher waiting for the congregation to say "Amen" when he ends a statement.

So your conclusion is that an undertaker and a preacher both sit at the same level as far your concerned?

Fvstringpicker
10-18-2004, 11:03 PM
So your conclusion is that an undertaker and a preacher both sit at the same level as far your concerned?

Well, they both offer a lay-a-way plan.

Flex-Deck
10-18-2004, 11:23 PM
Hmmm. Let me think about this one.
1. The democrates (spelled correctly) had 8 years under Clinton and here is what happened.
a. The Al Quida people were allowed to take flying lessons for 5 years on a 3 month visa. - They then flew into the twin towers.
b. The jews got dicked in the back room of the white house.
c. Our attempt at saving our name was to send 2 blackhawk helicopters into a city with multiple machine guns and missles and guess what - one got shot down and a few solders lost thier lives trying to save the crew.
d. The computer revolution - and the internet development blew the economy into the stratosphere - everyong was living on paper money due to Nasdac and Stockmarket explosion. - Suddenly everyone (as of 2001) owns one or two computers with at least 60 Gigabite hard drives run by Pentium 4 processors. Hell we can now store a life time worth of pictures on the hard drive and still have 60% left.
e. All the promises of his campain -like national health insurance did not come about - thank God & the republicans.

Olylawnboy
10-18-2004, 11:31 PM
I first voted 32 years ago, the first time eighteen year olds got the right to vote. Back then a real Dick got reelected and I hope you know what became of him. Ya know, we were kind of in the same situation then with Viet Nam. And since then I've just seen the same s*** over and over again with the dem/rep way of thinking. Either way, nothing has really changed. With one exception, now the working class is no longer the middle class. That's pretty scary to me. Isn't time we try to "think outside of the box" so to say? Do any of you know who Michael Peroutka is? or David Cobb? or Michael Badnarik? John Parker? James Harris? Bill Van Auken? Ralph Nader? Or what they would like to do? Or what they stand for? They all seem to think outside of the box. Why do we not consider their ideas? But just the rep/dems point of view? And you know, back in the day there were two brothers in one of the mainstream parties that thought outside the proverbial box. Thier last name started with a "K". What happened to them? They were killed!...Sheesh I think I'm going too far here:) or maybe I'm too old. I'll shut up now....Oly

dkeisala
10-19-2004, 12:11 AM
I'd rather lose my business than vote for Bush.

I'd rather pay higher taxes than see him re-elected to an office he has abused.

I'd rather see our troops here at home than fighting a war we'll probably never win.

I doubt Kerry would do any worse in the "hunt" for OBL than Bush has considering Bush himself said "I don't much think about OBL".

I don't appreciate being drug into a costly war because somebody had a score to settle. Human attrocities exist all over the world and we just so happened to decided Iraq was the worst? Iraq was being reduced to what Cuba is today. It just wasn't happening fast enough for Bush.

Ashcroft himself didn't give a rip about terrorism until 9/11. He'd of preferred going about pot growers and prostitutes. He's an idiot.

If Bush is re-elected, half of his senior staff will opt out of another 4 years with him. Ever wonder why? Perhaps they don't want to be hit with the sh!t that's about to hit the fan.

Feel safer with Bush at the helm? Whatever...it's because of him that we live in a more dangerous world. However, I'm smart enough to know that none of this will change an unchangeable mind. Time itself will tell.

out4now
10-19-2004, 12:21 AM
I'd rather lose my business than vote for Bush.

I'd rather pay higher taxes than see him re-elected to an office he has abused.

I'd rather see our troops here at home than fighting a war we'll probably never win.

I doubt Kerry would do any worse in the "hunt" for OBL than Bush has considering Bush himself said "I don't much think about OBL".

I don't appreciate being drug into a costly war because somebody had a score to settle. Human attrocities exist all over the world and we just so happened to decided Iraq was the worst? Iraq was being reduced to what Cuba is today. It just wasn't happening fast enough for Bush.

Ashcroft himself didn't give a rip about terrorism until 9/11. He'd of preferred going about pot growers and prostitutes. He's an idiot.

If Bush is re-elected, half of his senior staff will opt out of another 4 years with him. Ever wonder why? Perhaps they don't want to be hit with the sh!t that's about to hit the fan.

Feel safer with Bush at the helm? Whatever...it's because of him that we live in a more dangerous world. However, I'm smart enough to know that none of this will change an unchangeable mind. Time itself will tell.

Well put :cool:

Evergreenpros
10-19-2004, 12:32 AM
Bush '04

I'll never vote for a democrat, ever. They are exactly like the 1930's German National Socialist Workers Party, more commonly known as the NAZI party to you and me.

What did the UN do in response to the 9/11 attack???? Absolutely nothing. What did France, Germany, and Russia do in response to the 9/11 attack??? Absolutely nothing. They are NOT our allies nor our friends, they never have been.

We have a foothold in Iraq. We control Afganistan. We are shifting our forces in Europe further to the east. We now have bases on the border of China and Russia, something we've never had before. We now have an overland route into the womb of world terrorism, Iran. We are extending our influence, it's brilliant. Liberty will ring in where it never had a chance before. We have a duty to the world to spread freedom.

Smalltimer1
10-19-2004, 12:43 AM
I'd rather lose my business than vote for Bush.

I'd rather pay higher taxes than see him re-elected to an office he has abused.

I'd rather see our troops here at home than fighting a war we'll probably never win.

I doubt Kerry would do any worse in the "hunt" for OBL than Bush has considering Bush himself said "I don't much think about OBL".

I don't appreciate being drug into a costly war because somebody had a score to settle. Human attrocities exist all over the world and we just so happened to decided Iraq was the worst? Iraq was being reduced to what Cuba is today. It just wasn't happening fast enough for Bush.

Ashcroft himself didn't give a rip about terrorism until 9/11. He'd of preferred going about pot growers and prostitutes. He's an idiot.

If Bush is re-elected, half of his senior staff will opt out of another 4 years with him. Ever wonder why? Perhaps they don't want to be hit with the sh!t that's about to hit the fan.

Feel safer with Bush at the helm? Whatever...it's because of him that we live in a more dangerous world. However, I'm smart enough to know that none of this will change an unchangeable mind. Time itself will tell.


Sorry to hear you are so misled.

JKOOPERS
10-19-2004, 12:51 AM
i am gonna vote for kerry . i dont want any more people crossing the borders and taking jobs from the americans. a few days before the election they will capture Obl at bushs texas ranch . all you guys that are gonna vote for bush what is he doing for your children? NOTHING but putting the country in the largest deficit in history . bush seems to be making alot of money off all of us that buy gas.

Smalltimer1
10-19-2004, 01:01 AM
i am gonna vote for kerry . i dont want any more people crossing the borders and taking jobs from the americans. a few days before the election they will capture Obl at bushs texas ranch . all you guys that are gonna vote for bush what is he doing for your children? NOTHING but putting the country in the largest deficit in history . bush seems to be making alot of money off all of us that buy gas.

Another sadly misled person.

A democrat is someone whose interests are not at stake at the moment.

Edwards is from here in NC, he's done NOTHING for our state while he's been in Washington except whine and complain.

dkeisala
10-19-2004, 01:10 AM
Sorry to hear you are so misled.

Here's another example of the young thinking they know it all. 18 years old and you have it all figured out?

A democrat is someone whose interests are not at stake at the moment? So what you're saying is Bush's interests are at stake, which is pretty much why I won't vote for him or his Saudi interests.

Start thinking for yourself and stop voting like Daddy does.

JKOOPERS
10-19-2004, 01:18 AM
what needs to be changed in nc ? i am sure it is better than half of the nation . plus one guy cannot change the whole world . look at clinton we had a surplus when he was in office . then bush comes and now we are in a deficit. VOTE THAN SON OF BUSH OUT

Scag48
10-19-2004, 02:18 AM
Now you guys can say that some of us younger guys don't know anything about politics, I beg to differ. Right now I'm taking a class in high school where we have analyzed the political stance of both Kerry and Bush for the last 6 weeks. The class isn't designed to make someone conform to a Republican or Democratic point of view, only to provide you, the student, which the information you need to make your own decision. Really when it comes down to it, most people know who they are going to vote for before the debates even occur, and nobody is going to change that. It's all in how you look at things. Personally, I support Bush. He might not be the best speaker that ever graced the earth, but he sure as hell isn't so unstable with his decisions like Kerry. Kerry, to me, is just a false kind of guy. You can tell he's fake and I don't think he can handle what's going on in this country and lead us into the future. Bush's tax cuts have been a good deal for the economy, especially after 9/11. Plus, he plans to support small businesses even further with a greater cut. Kerry wants to raise taxes :eek: This is my first year voting and I know I'm making the right decision.

impactlandscaping
10-19-2004, 02:31 AM
Now you guys can say that some of us younger guys don't know anything about politics, I beg to differ. Right now I'm taking a class in high school where we have analyzed the political stance of both Kerry and Bush for the last 6 weeks. The class isn't designed to make someone conform to a Republican or Democratic point of view, only to provide you, the student, which the information you need to make your own decision. Really when it comes down to it, most people know who they are going to vote for before the debates even occur, and nobody is going to change that. It's all in how you look at things. Personally, I support Bush. He might not be the best speaker that ever graced the earth, but he sure as hell isn't so unstable with his decisions like Kerry. Kerry, to me, is just a false kind of guy. You can tell he's fake and I don't think he can handle what's going on in this country and lead us into the future. Bush's tax cuts have been a good deal for the economy, especially after 9/11. Plus, he plans to support small businesses even further with a greater cut. Kerry wants to raise taxes :eek: This is my first year voting and I know I'm making the right decision.

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Olylawnboy
10-19-2004, 02:54 AM
You know like it was said before, this thread should be moved to the off topic section :) Since it's not (yet),has anyone herd the term "peak oil" ? Google it and see what you think. And we keep hering about this "war". shouldn't there be like two opposing armies or somthing? We have our army, navy, airforce, and marines with all our hi tech equipment and Iraq has what? A bunch of second hand fireworks from WW2, Korea, Viet Nam, and attack camels? Good night guys :)....

dkeisala
10-19-2004, 03:02 AM
Now you guys can say that some of us younger guys don't know anything about politics, I beg to differ. Right now I'm taking a class in high school where we have analyzed the political stance of both Kerry and Bush for the last 6 weeks. The class isn't designed to make someone conform to a Republican or Democratic point of view, only to provide you, the student, which the information you need to make your own decision. Really when it comes down to it, most people know who they are going to vote for before the debates even occur, and nobody is going to change that. It's all in how you look at things. Personally, I support Bush. He might not be the best speaker that ever graced the earth, but he sure as hell isn't so unstable with his decisions like Kerry. Kerry, to me, is just a false kind of guy. You can tell he's fake and I don't think he can handle what's going on in this country and lead us into the future. Bush's tax cuts have been a good deal for the economy, especially after 9/11. Plus, he plans to support small businesses even further with a greater cut. Kerry wants to raise taxes :eek: This is my first year voting and I know I'm making the right decision.

I'm not saying young people don't know anything about politics, just that their life experiences (or lack thereof) don't necessarily give them the full picture. I was 18 at one time (OK many years ago) and also took a (as in one) class in high school that involved politics and world issues. The first election I could vote in after high school I voted for Bush Sr. and then proceeded to watch him do pretty much what his son is doing - send us into war, screw up the economy and pander to the rich/big business.

Bush's tax cuts have not helped me one bit. In fact, I have had more tax deductions than I can use for several years. It doesn't really matter if I can deduct 100% of that 2004 F350 dump body sitting in my driveway if I don't have the income to deduct it against. That $400 monthly gas bill certainly doesn't help. And if I'm struggling against rising prices, so are my clients and potential new clients. Electricity, gas, groceries or lawn service?

I started my business around the time Clinton was elected to office. My business grew by leaps and bounds throughout those years. Since Bush has been in office, growth has slowed to a crawl and I haven't done anything different than in the past. If anything, I do more to attract clients, am better equiped than in the past, have more experience and population has steadily increased in my area. Do I blame this on republicans? Not really but I do blame it on Bush.

I'm not voting for Kerry because I'm a die hard democrat that couldn't possibly vote for a republican. I'm voting for Kerry because Bush has had his chance and he has failed miserably in the job he was appointed to.

JKUCSMA
10-19-2004, 04:38 AM
I'm not saying young people don't know anything about politics, just that their life experiences (or lack thereof) don't necessarily give them the full picture. I was 18 at one time (OK many years ago) and also took a (as in one) class in high school that involved politics and world issues. The first election I could vote in after high school I voted for Bush Sr. and then proceeded to watch him do pretty much what his son is doing - send us into war, screw up the economy and pander to the rich/big business.

Bush's tax cuts have not helped me one bit. In fact, I have had more tax deductions than I can use for several years. It doesn't really matter if I can deduct 100% of that 2004 F350 dump body sitting in my driveway if I don't have the income to deduct it against. That $400 monthly gas bill certainly doesn't help. And if I'm struggling against rising prices, so are my clients and potential new clients. Electricity, gas, groceries or lawn service?

I started my business around the time Clinton was elected to office. My business grew by leaps and bounds throughout those years. Since Bush has been in office, growth has slowed to a crawl and I haven't done anything different than in the past. If anything, I do more to attract clients, am better equiped than in the past, have more experience and population has steadily increased in my area. Do I blame this on republicans? Not really but I do blame it on Bush.

I'm not voting for Kerry because I'm a die hard democrat that couldn't possibly vote for a republican. I'm voting for Kerry because Bush has had his chance and he has failed miserably in the job he was appointed to.
A vote for Bush is a vote for the downfall of all of us.One post quoted 80.000 iragi children saved,how many were killed,how many innocent people killed.How about our Military fighting for a cause,but not the cause they were sent there to fight.I worry more about jobs,healthcare,the deficit.Wake Up America WE need a change,No more lies.

Randy J
10-19-2004, 08:12 AM
Skag48 & Smalltimer41, glad to see there are younger people out there with common sense. Good example of truely comparing the two candidates Skag. You guys give me hope for our future.
dkeisala, you are the only small businessperson, or person period in the US who didn't get tax relief then. You better look for a new accountant. The one you have isn't doing you right.

RICHIE K
10-19-2004, 08:18 AM
BUSH ALL THE WAY :drinkup:


RICHIE K

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NC Scaper
10-19-2004, 08:23 AM
Bush here

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ztrlvr
10-19-2004, 09:18 AM
Bush will win, Kerry has to many "try to make everyone happy" ideas that I feel hurt his run at the White House

SpudsM15
10-19-2004, 10:26 AM
You say you don't feel safe with bush in the white house???
Well what did clinton, kerry or any democrat do to stop us from being attacked again!
The towers fell about 10 years before 9/11!!!!!
What did kerry do to stop that!!! He voted to cut our intel, no wait let me put it this way desomate! or intel. (I saw this on the history channel)Clinton had the cance to get OBL but he didn't want to risk the lives of some navy seals!!!! instead he risked the lives of millions of americans! We knew exactly were he was! I mean exactly! And 3000 of our citizen got killed going to work in the morning. When your a navy seal atleast you can shoot back!!! Your given the means to kill the enemey before they kill you!
Your right our borders do need to be more secure, but we need to constantly bring the fight to the enemy whereever whenever. Look at the 2005 budget theres 30 billion next year to update and properly fit our boarders to make them more secure.
If I hadn't met my g/f and started a biz with a friend 4 years ago I would definatly be on some a/f base now serving my country.
Back to kerry! This guy has voted over and over again to cut our intelligence but yet raise our taxes! He wants to outsource our drug manufacturing jobs to save a few bucks on a bottle of pills, result many decent paying jobs in america lost less tax payers so he'se gonna have to raise taxes on us again to compensate! Oh hey did you know that being rich now is a married couple making 150k a year thats two jobs @75k...
Ok I'm gonna strop venting now
Neither Bush or Kerry is a perfect canidate, but if you want to take the pre 9/11 attitude vote for kerry. But in my eyes Bush will make a better president.

Kelly's Landscaping
10-19-2004, 10:26 AM
Wow the Libs are getting desperate on this thread if the smartest democrat that ever lived could see the light why not you guys. Thatís right Ronald Regan was a democrat before he got sick of paying 96% of his income in income tax.

Under carter it was 75% top tax bracket Clinton it was 39.6% unless of course you qualified as an artist and most Libs in that class did then you only paid 36% through a loophole given to Clintons supporters. Now some of you actually think Clinton made the economy of the 90s thatís BS Bush senior did by handing Bill 6% interest rates when he came into office. A president does not send his budget to congress till Oct of his first year our economy was already recovered before Bill ever sent his and yet he takes credit for something he did not do. He also denies it was his recession when Bush Junior came in yet we were in one long before bush ever sent his budget to congress.

What is the future for this country well thatís easy under bush the interest rates are in the 5% range if you know anything you know that the economy will boom up to 10% which is what Clinton did he rode someone elseís work to the end then it came crashing down. I do not want to see another Dem raise taxes when the engine is primed to go forth and claim tax increases spurred the economy that is BS. Truth is Bills tax increases hurt us and we did not get the full benefit of boom because of him now we want to repeat this I don't think so. As for bushes tax cuts they did not go far enough Clinton, Gore, and Kerry all voted for that tax increase of 3 trillion dollars Bushes cut was only half that 1.5 trillion way I see it he still has a ways to go to right the wrongs of the Liberal party. Those tax cuts you seem to hate so much are the reason we came out of the Clinton recession as fast as we did. And just because the liberal media will not say anything good about the economy does not mean they are right. Perhaps you are not so good at sales but I have not found any trouble getting more work then I could handle this year and I think a 275% increase in my business this year sort of says that quite loudly. Long live Bush!

Pecker
10-19-2004, 11:04 AM
It would be crazy for the lawn industry to vote against bush. He's given us the huge tax relief as far as equipment goes. I'm in my first full year after having several part-time years and the tax relief is going to keep me afloat going into next year.

How can this be true? Kerry said only rich people got tax cuts. . .something getting scwewy awound hewe. Could it be that Kerry is a LIAR!