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Randy J
10-18-2004, 04:35 PM
The company I work for (insurance) has a Grasshopper 618/52 that they're taking sealed bids on. Kohler 18hp motor, and 152 hours. I'm not sure of the year. And it is from a claim, but from the description it sounds like it runs ok. Tires look good from the photos. Any thoughts on what a good bid on this mower would be?

Travis Followell
10-18-2004, 08:36 PM
Well I woul say around $4000 to $4500 would be about right. That is if it has the G2 transmission. The Gemini transmissions that GH used on their older mowers only lasts about 1,000 until they need replacement and I have heard of newer G2 drive systems with 11,000 hours with no problems yet. I repeat 11,000 hours, not 1100.

Mowingman
10-18-2004, 09:37 PM
The 618 is a light duty mower, built for homeowner use. I suppose you could use it for some commercial work, but I would not recommend it.
It does not have the G2 hydrostatic system. However, the old Gemini system has seen many improvements over the years. I had one in a 721D that was used for commercial mowing, and the Gemini system lasted 3000hrs.
One of the big problems with the Gemini system, is that it is almost impossible to rebuild it so it will last. And, since it is an all-in-one system on each side, (wheel motor and pump combined), the replacement cost is pretty high.
As to price, the info. given is really incomplete to even guess at a price. Can you demo it for at least a few minutes to be sure it runs good? I would do that before offering a bid.

Randy J
10-18-2004, 09:48 PM
Thanks for the replies. I know the information is kind of limited, but I just want to kind of get an idea. I don't think I'd buy an 18hp mower unless I could really buy it right. It would be relativly light duty though, so 18hp probably wouldn't hurt. How's the Kohler engine hold up?

Travis Followell
10-18-2004, 10:13 PM
Kohler air cooled engine taken care of would last roughly 3000 hrs. Really hard to say but thats what i've heard from a lot of people.

Randy J
10-21-2004, 06:00 PM
Got more info. It's a 2001 model, and was on a trailer that our insured hit. Apparently our appraiser felt it had frame damage, which is highly unlikely as there is no other damage to the mower. Looks pretty nice. Might be able to pick it up cheap enough to make it worthwhile.

John Gamba
10-21-2004, 06:51 PM
Got more info. It's a 2001 model, and was on a trailer that our insured hit. Apparently our appraiser felt it had frame damage, which is highly unlikely as there is no other damage to the mower. Looks pretty nice. Might be able to pick it up cheap enough to make it worthwhile.

If theres no apparent damage why would your adjuster say so. I would see if i could run the mower first, thats how you can tell if theres something wrong with it.
Maybe they drove it and found something out.
John

Randy J
10-21-2004, 07:25 PM
Oh I will run it first, but as a physical damage appraiser, and former trainer, I can tell you there are a lot of appraisers out there that don't know their rears from a hole in the ground when you get them off cars and into equipment. Combine that with the basic laziness that many people have, and most appraisers will just take the word of a "specialist" on damage, instead of finding out for themselves. Although anything is possible, I can see no way for a mower to have frame damage, without some visible physical damage. After all the mower is designed to go over rough ground. Just being tossed around a little on a trailer that's hit by a car shouldn't do too much other than cosmetic damage. And even if there is, I'm sure I can figure a way to straighten the frame. I wouldn't give too much money for it, but might be a chance to "steal" a mower.

John Gamba
10-21-2004, 08:22 PM
After all the mower is designed to go over rough ground. Just being tossed around a little on a trailer that's hit by a car shouldn't do too much other than cosmetic damage. And even if there is, I'm sure I can figure a way to straighten the frame. .

Check for chipping paint on the entire frame. Good Luck!

John

oldturf
11-19-2004, 12:52 AM
Good mower for homeowner, mows beautifully, is too lightweight for commerical use and is way to slow. Just my views.