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Cutworm
10-19-2004, 09:05 AM
Is Kawasaki a good brand. I made the mistake of buying a lower end blower that's top speed is 155 MPH. Needless to say it costs me much time. Help me out here people. :blob3:

mowdini
10-19-2004, 09:06 AM
You only need to know two words--RED MAX.

cgotro
10-19-2004, 09:45 AM
you got that right REDMAX, 8000 or 7001. Blows all the rest away

proenterprises
10-19-2004, 09:59 AM
the echo 750 is an nice unit as well

65hoss
10-19-2004, 10:10 AM
I have the Redmax 7000, 7001 and 8000. Best all around for the money is probably the 7001. 8000 is awesome, but it will be for leaf season only. 7001 is perfect for both.

jim dailey
10-19-2004, 10:39 AM
My RedMax 8000 blows a Brick across the parking lot...really!!!

Freshcut Lawn Care
10-19-2004, 10:51 AM
I currently have Echo Blowers. I believe the PB 602 model - Works well for just about everything.

I don't have the Echo PB 751; but I understand it is quite good.

Everything I have read about Red Max leads me to believe I will be buying one next, especially for Fall Clean Ups!

Recommend trying them out first hand!

! :waving:

Phishook
10-19-2004, 11:11 AM
Side by side the echo 651 blew the RM 7000 away.

Fareway Lawncare
10-19-2004, 11:14 AM
RedMax 8000...Most Powerful..

Echo 750 Very Close Second...More Powerful than the RedMax7001.

Stihl 400 series...Toys.

FrankenScagMachines
10-19-2004, 11:34 AM
I have never used Red Max blowers so will not comment, however i hear the RedMax EBZ8000 is awesome, and hear the same about the EB7001 as well. I have a (new this year :) ) Echo PB650 and I will say it is awesome. It is the same as the Echo PB750 except the 750 has a larger air filter and larger shoulder straps. It is also a little bit heavier, somewhere around a pound or so if i remember right. It has the same power as a 650. I didn't see the need for a bigger air filter, i have a Kawasaki KRB400A blower also, and it's been great on reliability. it is quiet and it's always been there for me. I'd recommend Kawi anyday as I have a few other Kawasaki engines and have had others as well, only ever had great luck with them. Kawasaki makes a KRB700 blower that is more powerful but I am not sure how it stacks up against my Echo. I went with the Echo due to local dealers and availability. I don't have time to drive to another town for parts or service if needed, and here we mainly only have Echo and Stihl. Stihl makes some good stuff but as stated, their blowers are toys IMHO. I love the Echo even for regular mowing jobs it blows the Kaw away (Kaw is 46cc, Echo 63cc) and for leaves, it is no less of a dramatic difference! it's awesome. I would say it's as powerful as my 5hp Billy Goat push blower even! thats pretty awesome. If the RedMax EB8000 is as good as they say i am sure i'll be looking at one for this time next year for leaves.

what you really need to look at with blowers is not the MPH of air, but the CFMs (Cubic Feet Per Minute). That is what it takes to blow debris, not speed. Take caution: CFM's are measured both at the blower housing and at the end of the tube. Make sure you compare similar numbers, preferably at the end of the tube. thats where the action is, not at the housing (you wouldn't use it without tubes would you?). Compare similar size engine units (they are in classes like 46cc, 63cc, and so on, the new Redmax EB8000 is 73cc i beleive) and then compare similar size engine units' air powers in both MPH and CFM at the tube. Thats a true comparison. Get one that you like and that is comfortable to operate all day. Some friends got a new Shindaiwa 630 (same power as my Echo 650 and supposedly same engine as RedMax EB7000/7001) but their straps are way too long and not padded well. The straps you can't tighten enough to keep the blower on your back right. Their blower hangs from their back really sloppy and at an angle. Just a really poor strap setup. I don't understand that. The machine itself seems fine but they already had to replace the flex tube out of the blower housing as it cracked and chunks came out. Personally i'm not impressed with thier experience of it although i love Shindaiwa stuff. I am just saying i'd expect better than that from a machine.

But yeah, check them all out carefully before buying. Get the biggest even if it means spending more money, it's definately worth it. I almost bought the Echo PB603? blower but decided extra $50 or so is worth it for more power. I think my 650 has kinda got more powerful after the initial break-in maybe. Not sure on that. but, it is sweet, if i need another blower i would buy another 650 in a heartbeat.

meathead1134
10-19-2004, 01:17 PM
I went with the echo 750 and love it. The main reason why I went with Echo is that dealer support is great. I don't feel like driving 10 miles to find a redmax dealer. That echo blower is extremely powerful imo

Ability
10-19-2004, 01:21 PM
For the money...Red Max 7001......if you have the extra dough...8000

65hoss
10-19-2004, 02:14 PM
Side by side the echo 651 blew the RM 7000 away.
I did the same test with a 7000 and a 650 and everyone there at the dealer lot agreed, the Redmax was better.

Its kinda funny, you can have many different opinions by people all over the country. Many will test both and come up with different conclusions.

The 7001 is by far stronger than a 7000. The 8000 is stronger than a 7001.

J.Gordon
10-19-2004, 02:47 PM
Whatís the difference between the 7000 and the 7001?(are they the same engine)

JustMowIt
10-19-2004, 03:47 PM
We run Stihl BR 420, they will last forever! We only do small residential work, if we did commercial I would use the Red Max 7001 (we actually have 1). Also Red Max makes the best hedge trimmers!

MJLsLawnCareNmoreLLC
10-19-2004, 03:56 PM
Personally I believe any Back pack blower is great invention. I used to use hand helds when I started out and got pretty good with those. When I got to use a back pack blower, I was spoiled. Ive used a few, but I own a RedMax EB7001 and love it. It is the most powerful blower out of all Ive used. I havent tried the 8000, but Ive heard its even better. RedMax's are one of the most expensive blowers but you get a lot of bang for your buck, which is what your looking for right? Most bp blower for your money imo.

Fareway Lawncare
10-19-2004, 04:10 PM
Have run the 7001 & Echo 750's side by side for an entire season & the 750
Is More Powerful...

W/2 Weeks on the 8000 can safely say it has an edge over the 750...

If you can...Wait for the 8001, which will tweak the 8000 like the 7001 did for the 7000...

Lawn-Scapes
10-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Hoss... Curious as to why the 8000 will be used only for leaf duties? Just don't need that much air for routine lawncare?

I currently have an Echo 650 but would like to pick up a RedMax. Just can't decide if I want to spend an extra $100 for the 8000. It seems as though it would be at 200cfm more than the 7001 and 300cfm better than the 650.

MMLawn
10-19-2004, 06:08 PM
Ya'll keep postinga and fighting it out on the BP's cause I need the info too as I think I will buy another one this winter. Heck everybody needs 4 BP's! :cool2:

Cutworm
10-19-2004, 06:09 PM
So far this is what I've gathered...
Red Max 8000
Echo 751
Red Max 7001
Echo 651
Barbie & Ken Hair Dryer
Stihl 420

Is that about right? ;)

Eric 1
10-19-2004, 06:22 PM
So far this is what I've gathered...
Red Max 8000
Echo 751
Red Max 7001
Echo 651
Barbie & Ken Hair Dryer
Stihl 420

Is that about right? ;)


Dead on. Well put.

I love the part about the hair dryer.lol

Shadowroll
10-19-2004, 06:33 PM
Hoss... Curious as to why the 8000 will be used only for leaf duties? Just don't need that much air for routine lawncare?

I currently have an Echo 650 but would like to pick up a RedMax. Just can't decide if I want to spend an extra $100 for the 8000. It seems as though it would be at 200cfm more than the 7001 and 300cfm better than the 650.


the 8000 has about 38 more CFM AT THE PIPE than the 7001

Go to REDMAX.com

pull up blowers

check both the 7001 and 8000

pull up the PDF file located at the bottom of each items page

for the 8000 check AT THE PIPE number on page 14-------------688CFM

my new 7001 the book I got with it says 650 CFM AT THE PIPE


I do not like companies that TRY TO MISLED people by posting different stats like REDMAX has done using the 950 or so CFM on the main page for the 8000 when they know this is at the housing and not at the pipe.

But I DO LOV my NEW 7001 blower :pumpkin:

grass-scapes
10-19-2004, 08:02 PM
I just got the new Redmax 8000. Its good, but heavy and awkward. Once its on your back its fine, unless you are gonna have it there for a while. Im gonna hire someone next year to use it for me so Im not so damned tired.

Cutworm
10-19-2004, 08:12 PM
Would you guys buy a used 7001 for $250-$300, or just get a new whatever?

Lawn-Scapes
10-19-2004, 08:24 PM
the 8000 has about 38 more CFM AT THE PIPE than the 7001

I'm seeing 58 more cfm... but thanks for pointing that out.

So that's almost 10% more cfm... can I expect to finish jobs almost 10% faster?

65hoss
10-19-2004, 08:30 PM
I don't have the books in front of me tonight, but the 7001 is 125 cfm more than a 7000. I don't remember what the 8000 is over the 7001 compared with the books.

The 7000 and 7001 have the same motors but the design of the impellers I believe is one of the main differences.

The 8000 is a little harder to get on and off. The 7001 can be used quickly off the trailer to blow clippings during grass season. During leaf season a blower stays on you much longer. The extra power then is worth it.

FrankenScagMachines
10-20-2004, 01:03 AM
So far this is what I've gathered...
Red Max 8000
Echo 751
Red Max 7001
Echo 651
Barbie & Ken Hair Dryer
Stihl 420

Is that about right? ;)
Well, Echo doesn't use "651 / 751" it's even numbers, 650 and 750.
Why doesn't anyone understand the fact that the Echo 650 and 750 are the same engine and impeller and tubes. Same specs. The only difference is the 750 weighs more due to larger (larger than usually necessary) air filter and it supposedly has nicer straps to compensate. I like the straps on my 650 just fine and i like to save a pound here and there. The air filter on it is plenty good for anything we do. So how can anyone possibly say a Echo 750 has more power than a 650, I have no idea!

here is your list, reorganized in the proper order as i see it:

Red Max 8000
Red Max 7001
Echo PB750
Echo PB650
Barbie & Ken Hair Dryer
Stihl 420

Those being the "big guns" from the big manufacturers. I would say the Shindaiwa 630 is right around somewhere around the Echo units. Supposedly they're RedMax powered but I don't think that means the fans and housings and pipes are all the same so probably different specs.

65hoss
10-20-2004, 01:48 AM
here is your list, reorganized in the proper order as i see it:

Red Max 8000
Red Max 7001
Echo PB750
Echo PB650
Barbie & Ken Hair Dryer
Stihl 420



hahahahaha....Barbie and Ken hair dryer. :drinkup: :drinkup: That is good.

TURF DOCTOR
10-20-2004, 02:09 AM
Redmax is on top of the power equipment

TJLC
10-20-2004, 07:25 AM
I just bought an Echo PB751T and am happy with it so far. I also have an Echo PB603 and it's a decent blower also. I use it as a backup to my 751. I have also heard good things about Shin 630 and Redmaxx 7001, although I have never personally used them.

MOW ED
10-20-2004, 09:13 AM
My Shindiawa EB 630 can blow a brick down the driveway too but I am mad at the price and time required for replacement parts. 80.00 for a small corrugated metal tube that holds the controls. A hollow bendable tube cost almost 1/4 of the dam thing new. On top of that I had to wait a month to get it, I think it came from Japan by train.
I does blow like hell though and I have made plenty of money from it but you guys have me wantin a Redmax.

PR Fect
10-20-2004, 09:43 AM
RedMax 7001 here. Only problem we had was the throttle lock broke. That thing Rocks!

stevesmowing
10-20-2004, 10:28 AM
eb630 used for 1 year so far and havn't had to replace anything

FrankenScagMachines
10-20-2004, 10:56 AM
My apologies for my previous reply to this thread where i ranted about incorrect model numbers for Echo blowers. I just noticed on the Echo website (after looking to verify my statements) that they recently have switched to "1" instead of "0" on the end of the 650 and 750 model number blowers. So, i was incorrect and they are now PB651 and PB751. Sorry! But as far as i know, they are still the same power and same machine but for air filter and straps. So, they should be at the same level on the list.
Thanks,
Eric

shepoutside
10-20-2004, 11:10 AM
Love my br 420's, work well, easy to start, and great dealer support. Sounds lLike i should try a Red MAx, but there not in Canada, or not anywhere around me. Our Shindiawa dealer, can't get blowers in, for some reason too.

65hoss
10-20-2004, 11:17 AM
Love my br 420's, work well, easy to start, and great dealer support. Sounds lLike i should try a Red MAx, but there not in Canada, or not anywhere around me. Our Shindiawa dealer, can't get blowers in, for some reason too.
I have a BR. You get a redmax 7001 and you will never use that BR again.

shepoutside
10-20-2004, 11:31 AM
Your probably right, maybe I need to start a dealer up here payup

socty
10-30-2004, 05:47 PM
Too bad you have problems getting the Shindaiwa's. I have two EB630's , 4 and 2 years old, and the old one seems more powerful than the new one! But they're both great. Latest price I saw was about $470 plus tax. What does the Red Max 8000 go for?

jim dailey
10-30-2004, 06:15 PM
Too bad you have problems getting the Shindaiwa's. I have two EB630's , 4 and 2 years old, and the old one seems more powerful than the new one! But they're both great. Latest price I saw was about $470 plus tax. What does the Red Max 8000 go for?

I got both of my RedMax 8000's up here at Norfolk Power in Wrentham, Ma., for $549 + tax. They are unbelievable !!! He has another store in Burriville, R.I. Give them a call @ 401-710-9911. If they do not have any there, get the number for up here...they have plenty of them up here !!!

socty
11-02-2004, 02:16 PM
thanks for the tip. There is a dealer down here, so I'll check him out.

ace56320
11-02-2004, 03:07 PM
MY VOTE HAS TO GO TO THE STIHL BR 420MAG. ITS LESS THAN 400 BUCKS! :cool2:

Blessed 1
11-02-2004, 03:38 PM
Best Bang for the buck here is the PB-650 for $405.00 at my dealers "Pro Day". The differance between the 650/651 and 750/751 is the 0's are the hip throttle and the 1's are the tube throttle.

grassmeister
12-06-2004, 05:08 PM
I just purchased a Redmax 7001 and after my first weekend with it, I'm VERY happy. I was originally leaning towards Echo because of good experience with one of their trimmers, but ended up with the Redmax. The 7001 seems to have about the same power as the top-end Echo's, but with less weight. I was also considering the Redmax 8000 (which outperforms all), but again it was a weight issue (same weight as the Echo 751). In the fall when there are big piles of dense leaves, I'm sure I would appreciate the extra power of the 8000. But 90% of the time, the 7001 provides ample power for just about anything. At 4 lbs less and at a cost of $399, it seemed like the best combination.

I'm now looking for more leaves to blow :)

Gatewayuser
12-06-2004, 05:20 PM
The $300.00 Husqvarna is the way to go, rated best buy by consumer reports! I have one and love it!!!

The C Man
12-06-2004, 05:41 PM
Did they review any of the popular commercial blowers?

locutus
12-06-2004, 06:35 PM
Did they review any of the popular commercial blowers?LOL! that is exactly what I was thinking.