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ByrnesLandscaping1
10-26-2004, 10:08 PM
I am in the market to buy a 3500 series dump or rackbody truck. I found a 1995 GMC 3500HD 10' Rack body. The truck is in impecable condition and the 6.5 Diesel engine only has 50k on it. The only problem with it is that it is not a 4x4. I will be using this truck for both landscaping, and plowing in the winter. I was wondering how well a non 4x4 will plow (given that i will have a sander on back). I have other pickups to do most of my driveways, but i will use this truck for parking lots and some driveways. I am concerned because everything else about the truck is more than i could ask, i just dont want to find out in the winter that i cant move.. thank you

D Felix
10-26-2004, 11:20 PM
You may want to re-ask this question over on Plowsite.

I have no idea how well a 2wd will plow. All I've ever plowed with is 4wd's. And when it wasn't locked in (2000 F-450 crewcab), it didn't plow too well.

My guess is the more wieght in the rear, the better you will do. Also, you may need to start plowing when there is less snow on the ground. Those are just guesses though. There's 2wd plow trucks out there, they just aren't as common.


Dan

GardenofWeeden
10-27-2004, 10:06 AM
If you are from the North, there is no doubt you need a 4x4 . That is probably the reason for the great deal on the truck. You find great deals on gassers for landscaping too...affordable, easy to get into with less capital...but overall...it doesn't fit the job. Not into plowing in Virginia, but when I lived up North...if you didn't have a 4x4...you had a four wheel sled.

blafleur
10-27-2004, 10:22 AM
Gotta go with garden of weeden, out in snow country, not being 4wd is probably the reason for the great deal.

I have a dodge diesel 2wd, I got it because it hardly ever snows here. But I kick myself on a regular basis for not getting 4wd, not only for the 1 or 2 snows we do get, but for getting in and and out of soil/stone yards when muddy (which is often) and pulling a trailer, and muddy job sites. The diesel engine is so heavy you get stuck in places you might not have with a gas 2wd. There is no way I will ever get another 2wd truck for landscaping, especially if its diesel (and it will be diesel).

Bryan

Pecker
10-27-2004, 11:10 AM
Rule of Thumb: Anything that is rear wheel drive is useless anywhere it snows. For snow climates, only 4x4 or at least front wheel drive will do.

oneandonlyjojo
10-27-2004, 05:40 PM
in NY i dont plow but when i switch from 2wd to 4wd theres a huge difference. it helps a lot out in the rain also. i would never buy a truck without it

Coffeecraver
10-27-2004, 06:07 PM
I also have to say that the 4x4 is well worth it.
I am from upstate NY and have been one of those 4 wheel sleds

If you are going to spend the money you may as well get what you want from day one instead of wishing you had.

I have a 2003 Dodge 2500 4x4 Heavy Duty
It's alot better than that sled I had.

AintNoFun
10-28-2004, 09:54 AM
Rule of Thumb: Anything that is rear wheel drive is useless anywhere it snows. For snow climates, only 4x4 or at least front wheel drive will do.


not really.... living in NJ we get some snow not nearly as much as farther north but two of our mason dumps (f450's) are 2 wheel drive. We through 10' spreaders in the back and they plow just as good as our 4 wheel drive pickups....

TREEGODFATHER
10-29-2004, 05:07 PM
Rule of Thumb: Anything that is rear wheel drive is useless anywhere it snows. For snow climates, only 4x4 or at least front wheel drive will do.


4wd is for people who don't know how to drive.

sildoc
10-30-2004, 03:28 PM
Chains are a cheap way of making a 2wd have better traction and control. If this is a too good to be true buy that you cant pass up 200 bucks worth of chains for both frount and rear gives you a cheap way to make a truck that sucks to a truck you can go places with.
Only draw back to chains is slower speeds and putting them on and taking them off.

mikefeliciano
10-30-2004, 03:59 PM
Well being from PA most people would say you need it. Basically comes down to a few things you have to consider:

A) Where you use it? Flat lots, hills, etc? If its on flat lots that are fairly close to one another and not alot of road driving you should be ok with wait in back

b) Who is driving? We run both 2 and 4 wd's and there are certain employees I would NEVER put in a 2wd in the snow. We all have those drivers so you need to think of that.

c) Just in case buy a set of chains and keep them in the truck, just in case :)

playnindirt
10-31-2004, 10:59 AM
It depends on what you are plowing, if you are doing open lots and you have a driver that knows how to plow you will not need 4 wheel drive. I have two 450 that are two wheel drive and have plowed storms up to 28" with them. Also have 4 wheel drive 450's that have never used the 4 wheel drive when plowing, but of course all the trucks have sanders in the back for weight. Its all a matter of knowing how to plow.

Turfdude
10-31-2004, 06:14 PM
2wd 350's w/ 1 to 1.5 ton in the rear are fine for plowing. It may be a little tricky on inclines or if pushing > 6" snow, but you just have to know your limitations.