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R&R LawnService
11-03-2004, 10:23 AM
I was looking for feed back from people that use/have used the 95-97 ford F-350 with the 460 engine and manual trans. Any pros or cons.

Redneck'n
11-06-2004, 07:07 PM
all my Fords are older than that...nothing wrong with newer ones i guess.. i have just had incredible luck with older ('70's) Fords.. currently, i have an f-350 crew cab, f-250 single cab, and f-250 super cab.. all are '79 models.. the supercab250 is the only one with a 460 in it.. it is a beast.. more power than i usually need...the f350 has a 351m in it.. not enough power for that truck.. the single cab 250 has a 400m in it.. great engine..i wouldnt trade it for anything.. plenty of power.. ok on gas.. when compared to the 460, it is real good..hahaha...

J&R
11-06-2004, 09:26 PM
Very low MPG 5-7. I had one in a F250 took it out installed a 300 six banger get 15+ MPG. I just use this truck to pick up around town like bags of much, flats of flowers odds and ends.

olderthandirt
11-06-2004, 09:35 PM
The 460 was the only engine that lost HP and milage when they went to fuel injection.
5 mpg is not uncommon as was mentioned above, and I had it worst. Would not recommend that engine, 351 with a deeper set of gears will out pull it and get better milage.

Mac

Smalltimer1
11-06-2004, 10:27 PM
My F-250 has a 460 in it. It's a '95, it has 3.55 gears and automatic. It gets an average of 10-11 mpg mixed driving regardless of empty or load. It pulls great. The guy above who said a 351 could outpull it is joking--a properly tuned 460 will outpull any gasoline powered truck out there of its age. The 460 (carb) in 1987 had 225hp/390tq.--when it got EFI it got to 230hp/400tq. The last few years (94-97) it had 245hp/410 lb. tq.

Redneck'n
11-08-2004, 08:13 PM
i agree the 351 engines are pretty much crap.. the 351W for sure is...
the 351m should have never have been used in trucks...

you can take a 351m or 400m and put a 4barrel carb on it and get good hp increase.. but still no match for a 460...

Redneck'n
11-08-2004, 08:33 PM
i just cant leave this one alone..
sorry.. but a 351 outpulling a 460? i just dont think so.. i mean, you could completely go thru the engine and add a blower or a nitrous system to it and MAYBE pull more.. but other than that.. no way... not possible.. anytime you are talking standard engines you have to figure ci=more power EVERY time..
a big block is always going to have more dogs in it and more torque to it in normal conditions...
so, thats all..now you know what i know...

Metro Lawn
11-08-2004, 09:43 PM
i just cant leave this one alone..
sorry.. but a 351 outpulling a 460? i just dont think so.. i mean, you could completely go thru the engine and add a blower or a nitrous system to it and MAYBE pull more.. but other than that.. no way... not possible.. anytime you are talking standard engines you have to figure ci=more power EVERY time..
a big block is always going to have more dogs in it and more torque to it in normal conditions...
so, thats all..now you know what i know...


There's no replacement, for displacemnt....

Gravel Rat
11-09-2004, 01:12 AM
A truck with a 460 is fine if your not concerned about getting good fuel mileage I figured my 88 F-450 burned about 10-12 dollars in fuel per hour or 6-8 mpg. If I was going to choose between gasser trucks with EFI it would be the 460 even thou its got bad fuel mileage its a workhorse engine. I have grossed my old 88 F-450 to 17,000-18,000lbs with loads of gravel in the box the old 460 didn't even whimper. I sold the 88 because it did burn alot of fuel it would be fine if the truck made money every day but I use my truck as a daily driver too so I wanted better fuel mileage. You also have to keep in mind my F-450 weighed 8200lbs empty it wasn't a light truck by anymeans.

As for old carburated engines I had a 77 F-350 dually flatdeck with a 460 automatic the truck had decent power it was better when I turfed the juicer and put a 4spd behind it. I had a 79 F-250 4x4 351m 4spd the truck was tall geared had good road speed but no pulling power. I also had a 80 F-350 dually flatdeck with 351m power 4spd truck was a gutless pig it ran good but no power. Put 6000lbs on the deck of the 80 it was even slower I don't think the speed ever got above 50km/h (31mph) climbing the hills in 2nd gear. I drove the shiat out of that old truck screaming it in 3rd gear wasn't uncommon.

I would stick with EFI its fairly reliable it starts good in all temperatures I was leary of buying a fuel injected truck when I bought the 88 because I did come from or carburated trucks. I wouldn't go back to a carburated truck I don't want to be dealing with flooding engines and dealing with chokes and waiting for the engine to fully warm up.

I currently have a IDI 7.3 it gets 11-12mpg it doesn't have the power to roast ricers like my old 460 but the diesel gets the job done. The old IDI is simple no electronics except for the glow plugs I did notice a power difference between the 7.3 and the 460. The 460 would definatly walk away from the diesel with the empty trucks but I think with loaded trucks the diesel would do it slightly better.

Would I go back to a 460 after owning the diesel that would be a hard call I have gotten used to passing gas stations. Would I go back to a carburated truck no way. My current truck doesn't automatically turn into a gas station and I don't :cry: as much anymore.

meathead1134
11-09-2004, 12:32 PM
There's no replacement, for displacemnt....

I couldn't have said it better myself

R&R LawnService
11-09-2004, 03:43 PM
Thanks for all the info, Its exactly what i was looking for. I did not end up buying the truck due to the seller not wanting to neg. on the price.

Smalltimer1
11-09-2004, 05:18 PM
Mine is for sale and I am going to find out this week if the man wants it. If you're interested I'm in Raleigh, NC and I'll let you know if mine doesn't sell.

Redneck'n
11-09-2004, 08:26 PM
i've not really had any time behind the wheel of a diesel.. i tend to be a little heavy on the foot and like the response i get... that being said.. i did get to witness an '04 chevy 3500 and an '04 Ford f-350 both diesels square off a the local drag race track a few weeks back.. i was VERY impressed...the guys were friends and they were funnin' and tied it in the quarter (on purpose i think) 13.7 seconds...i am also quite certain of the *NITROUS* i saw in the cab of the f-350... just for the record.. THIS TRUCK WILL MOVE... i saw it rocket off and leave '76 Nova...
very impressive indeed...

anyway.. i just had to toss that little bit of info in there...