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s and s mowing
11-13-2004, 08:41 PM
i have redmax now but got a echo catalog and they look good with some nice features.anybod had both?????????????

Gautreaux's LNG
11-13-2004, 09:19 PM
RedMax gives you a 2 year commercial warranty. Echo is a 1 year commercial, 2 year homeowner warranty. The RedMax BCZ3000 which we use is also 3 lbs lighter than the SRM-311 from Echo.

Not sure if Echo is running Catalytic Converters on their 2 cycles. If so that's a big negative, Cat conv creates heat, which reduces engine life.

Lazer_Z
11-13-2004, 09:29 PM
RedMax gives you a 2 year commercial warranty. Echo is a 1 year commercial, 2 year homeowner warranty. The RedMax BCZ3000 which we use is also 3 lbs lighter than the SRM-311 from Echo.

Not sure if Echo is running Catalytic Converters on their 2 cycles. If so that's a big negative, Cat conv creates heat, which reduces engine life.
Gautreaux how do you like your 3000's so far?? I have been looking at the same trimmer and have not heard too much said about them. So if you could be so kind as to please give a small review of the BCZ300S trimmers you are using it would be great

Thanks
Rob

s and s mowing
11-13-2004, 09:48 PM
i have a 225,it is not strato charged and i like it,no problems whatso ever.but i have some friends that have the 2400 strato that say they not as good as 225.

Duramax99
11-13-2004, 10:13 PM
Blown up many Echo's, never have blown up a Redmax under the same heat and conditions. Komatsu makes Redmax. Komatsu makes heavy machinery.

Cut 2 Please
11-13-2004, 10:13 PM
I ran Echo equipement for several years. Here lately I have not had very good luck with it. There always seems to be something wrong with at least one of my Echo products. I have been swapping over to Redmax this year. I have had much better luck with it. I just bought the 2600 trimmer and the straight shaft edger. Both are great. I have yet to find an edge that will bogg the edger. One feature I really like about the Redmax is the air filter. It is foam and you can wash it out. The Echo filters have always been a pain for me. Seems I have to replace them all the time. Also ever since Home Depot started selling Echo the quality has seem to not be as good.

Albemarle Lawn
11-13-2004, 10:56 PM
hands down.

Lazer_Z
11-13-2004, 11:06 PM
Thanks for all the replies but, I would like to know a little more about the BCZ3000S than what the master product catalog has to offer.Has anyone had any real time with this machine I would also like to hear any negatives if anyone has any. I like my ECHO 2601 but I hate the 230 I bought from Home Cheapo so i'm looking at keeping the 2601 as a spare and just getting rid of the 230 and upgrading to a red max.

Thanks again
Rob

Gautreaux's LNG
11-15-2004, 09:14 PM
We've had great success with the RedMax 3000's. We ran T-270 Shindaiwa's until this season. The switch was a tough decision but I'm not much on 4 cycle or 2 cycle with Cat. converter. The RedMax's are awesome and light. I find them a bit cold natured in the A.M. We usually start them and let them run (idle) for 20-30 for the first run of the morning. From that point it's great the rest of the day. Only the first season but not ONE problem yet!

And the EBZ8000 Blower is great!

Eric 1
11-15-2004, 09:35 PM
I like my Redmax trimmer. But it is vary cold natured in the a.m.

I thought i heard that komatsu made Echo as well.

Also i have never noticed a 3 lbs difference in the 2. According to my catalogs there is a .5lbs difference.

I prefer the Echo because it is easier to get parts for and has a lifetime ing module warranty.It also seems to vibrate less and more comfortable to use.And always starts in 2 pulls were the redmax takes up to 6.

Gautreaux's LNG
11-15-2004, 09:35 PM
We also us the HEF2600 curved shaft edger. This edger has been a step up over the LE260 from Shindaiwa. We have had no problem with bogging down like we had before. The entire wheel assembly seems to hold up alot better also.

I do have one complaint about my EBZ300's it the handle. The handle is a 2-piece unit and the piece tends to seperate underneath the rubber grip. Other than comfort this poses little problem beacuse the rubber grip holds the pieces together.

Also the RedMax 3000's seems to get much better gas mileage! On the same properties where we would have to refill with the T-270's the RedMax's have plenty remaining. It seems to be almost 2-1 but it may not be that much!

Hope this helps!

CottonPatch
11-15-2004, 10:09 PM
Echo is not made by the makers of Redmax, Zenoah Komatsu.

Lazer_Z
11-16-2004, 03:46 PM
Gautreaux, Thanks for all the info looks like i'm sold on the 3000. Now I just have to decide between 2 dealers and see who comes out on top with the best price for 2 machines.

Thanks again

MJLsLawnCareNmoreLLC
11-16-2004, 04:49 PM
I use RedMax line trimmers and have been vary happy with them. I get very good gas usage out of them. I can trim about 10-12 houses on one tank!

ztoro
11-16-2004, 04:53 PM
I went to buy a 3000 from my dealer and he told me to wait a year for it. Said something about the piston taps something creating a pinging sound. He didnt say it caused any problems but you could hear it and it didnt sound good. He had both the 3000 and the 2600. He said to go with the 2600 and wait til next year for the 3000. I guess it was fixed for next year but they are waiting to sell all the old models.


anybody else hear anything about this?

locutus
11-16-2004, 04:57 PM
Dont mean to change the subject here but, has anyone noticed that if you dont follow the starting sequience as outlined in a Redmax owners manuel, that they are indeed hard to start sometimes? I was having trouble with my 7001 blower until I started opening the throttle to 1/4 open when starting it. Problem dissappeared after that.

Gmgbo
11-16-2004, 05:02 PM
go with echo, plenty of power and ive had no problems with mine

TURF DOCTOR
11-16-2004, 05:28 PM
No problem here with redmax, first season seems to be more powerful than anything out there.I have ran shin for years not much on cat converters when they took the carb adjustment screws off it went downhill.

Gautreaux's LNG
11-16-2004, 07:54 PM
I've run 3 BCZ3000's all season NO pinging yet!

Gruneich Lawn Care, Inc.
11-16-2004, 08:13 PM
Redmax is the only thing I buy, much better than my Echo's

ztoro
11-16-2004, 08:38 PM
I've run 3 BCZ3000's all season NO pinging yet!


I iwll have to call and ask what the problem was. Its weird why he would steer my in a different direction fo rno reason.. He is also a good friend in addition to a dealer.....

CottonPatch
11-16-2004, 10:18 PM
There were some piston problems with some of the very first 3000's that came out. Redmax has since corrected most of the problems with this unit and should be good to go. These problems have been very isolated and seem to be from certain production dates.

DuallyVette
11-17-2004, 12:02 AM
My echo equipment is harder to start than my Redmax Blowers during cold temps. I don't know about any special sequence that I need to follow. I just choke them on the first pull. They usually start.

YardPro
11-17-2004, 07:06 AM
i have run alot of ecco's, mainly becuase they are cheaper, but after owning about 15-20 ecco's i WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER.
red max, shindawa, mryuama, robin, dolmar, husquvarnia, are all much superior.

ecco's just don't hold up as well. i only get 2 trouble free seasons from them, then the problems start.

mkwl
11-17-2004, 05:12 PM
Get a Red Max!!!! I bought a Red Max BCZ2600S trimmer this past spring and I love it!!! It has a lot of power and torque!! I have not had even the slightest problem with it!!! echo is homeowner stuff IMO

ed2hess
11-17-2004, 07:30 PM
I don't recommend buying anytrimmer that doesn't have a carb gas intake adjustment. On the ECHO 260 they but it back on last year. And this year they changed the gearing to put more power at the head. You can now run a 24" trim line at full rpm. No need to get higher CC engines unless you need to clear brush. Properly maintained we get 2000 hours on ECHO.

walker/redmax
08-17-2005, 01:09 AM
Stay with redmax! I have the 2500 and the 3000 and would'nt trade them for anything.

yungman
11-26-2007, 05:33 PM
A dealer have BCZ3000s for $349 just this week, It has been 2 to 3 years since someone complain about the piston problem judging from the date it was posted.
1) Did Redmax fix the problem on the BCZ3000s yet?
2) Is this still a good recomendation?
3) How loud is this compare to some 4 cycle? Is it as loud as the normal old 2 cycle?
4) What year they introduce the BCZ3000s. In the catalog, it said is new.
Please tell me more, I have only until the end of the week!!

DixieFerris
11-26-2007, 06:29 PM
Are you kidding? Echo vs. RedMax? That's like saying which baseball team is better, the Devil Rays or the Red Sox? Come on now RedMax by a mile! And btw, I am a Mets fan but I must admit the Red Sox organization has their sh*t together these days!

DBL
11-26-2007, 07:07 PM
we use all echo equipment except chainsaws...we have 2 echo 261-T trimmers and 3 PB620 blowers and they are great machines