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clemsonfan69
12-11-2004, 10:01 PM
This is an example house in the community Ill be mowing in. Half the lawns are like this, other half are smaller and tighter, spots a big ZTR couldnt logically get too w/out destroying landscaping or something.

What mower would everyone recommend?

I have my 42" Dixon ZTR but just eyeing these I can tell its probably too big and bulky for the small spaces and turns, so Im looking to sell it and get something around MAX price of $1500 (no I wont be doing any open, big yards so I shouldnt miss it that much).

http://www.geocities.com/clemsonfan6969/yard1.txt

peace
CJ

procut
12-11-2004, 10:08 PM
I'd try a 32" to 36" walk behind

out4now
12-11-2004, 10:11 PM
Is there a large back yard or is that all of what you'd be responsible for? Also how much grass on other side of the house?

2k1yzfr1
12-11-2004, 10:12 PM
I would use a 36"

clemsonfan69
12-11-2004, 10:18 PM
The backyard doesnt have much of anything, and the side is about 4-6' wide.

Its a retirement community. Ya know, the kind where all the houses are like slammed together. I work on the grounds crew for the whole community (we dont manage residents yards though) and it dawned on me I could make some good extra cash by doing lawns for these people, so I went and got my business license and got setup with a $300k insurance plan.

peace
CJ

out4now
12-11-2004, 10:21 PM
36 would be fine but most guys here would just use 21's on one that size. Yards here are usually really small unless it's an older property.

Mo Green
12-11-2004, 10:21 PM
I would use a 36" hydro walk behind.

TurfGuyTX
12-12-2004, 12:07 AM
36" would be fine. I've knocked out smaller lawns with my 61" Scag with no problems.

impactlandscaping
12-12-2004, 12:11 AM
36" Hydro, and if gate access isn't a problem, I'd use a 36" Stander

arborist-28
12-12-2004, 12:21 AM
yup if I had my choice I would have to say a 36 inch walk behind ...c

Envy Lawn Service
12-12-2004, 12:25 AM
I'd use atleast a 48" Z on that lawn. Over kill without killing or loss of productivity equals good money. Your 42" should be fine there. For me a mulch kit would be a must though.

If they are really small and you want to stripe them up, maybe look at a 36" stander type machine. You will appreciate something short.

BryPaulD
12-12-2004, 12:39 AM
Use your 21" and keep the Z, or use the Z if it's 42" I like the idea of a 36 for it, (would be ideal). I was originaly going to suggest a 48" WB, just because you could manuever it so and still use it for bigger things. Also the smaller mowers would perhaps make these smaller yards appear bigger?? ;) IMO

YardPro
12-12-2004, 05:30 AM
looks like she size of most of our yards.
we use all 42" mowers. toro pro lines and a hustler super mini Z. they worlk fine on small yards.

Travis Followell
12-12-2004, 07:57 AM
You would probibly be fine to go ahead and use your 42" ztr on yards like that. Like Envy said you'll probibly need a mulch kit or small bagger so you won't blow grass everywhere.

Envy Lawn Service
12-12-2004, 08:40 AM
Yeah, some guys just let it fly and spray all over everything. God knows why? Especially down in areas like that were it's tight and you have all those creeping grasses. Post-mow clean up is rough and it's hard to get all of it out of beds and off of stuff.

2k1yzfr1
12-12-2004, 10:39 AM
I'd use atleast a 48" Z on that lawn. Over kill without killing or loss of productivity equals good money. Your 42" should be fine there. For me a mulch kit would be a must though.

If they are really small and you want to stripe them up, maybe look at a 36" stander type machine. You will appreciate something short.

That appears to be St Augustine so he probably won't be striping.

lawnranger44
12-12-2004, 10:46 AM
If you go for the 36", you'll prolly want to find one used because a new one will prolly be over $2000.

Rick Jones
12-12-2004, 10:51 AM
I would definitely use a hydro walk-behind. Looks like you'll be mowing in some tight areas. The backing up and manuevering is a killer on a belt-drive.

MTR
12-12-2004, 12:17 PM
I have quite a few of those sized lawns too, but I run a 52" TTHP/sulky on all of them in a block, each lawn to be cut taking 10 and less minutes no more than that ( just mowing part excluding trim, edge, blow, weed). The 52" is perfect to residential, I only use 36" on gated yards and my backyard, areas that 52" can't do so tight, Stihl trimmer take care. The 52" saves so much mowing time and it looks better than the 36" cut.

Albemarle Lawn
12-12-2004, 12:56 PM
$1500 is a tight budget unless you are talking about 5 or 10 of these homes, in which case I would bag it with my JX85 John Deere.

10-20 I would be interested in a bagging 36" walk behind.

20+ I would be looking at a Walker with a small deck, plus a man on a JX85 bagging the tight spots, and a man on stick edger who would pick up a weed eater and finally a blower as the job moves along.

2k1yzfr1
12-12-2004, 02:26 PM
for $1500 look around for a clean 36" belt walkbehind they should run 800-1000.

grassyfras
12-12-2004, 03:53 PM
52" hydro would be perfect. Those look like my lawns with only bigger back yards. I own a 36" and would still take the 52" on those front lawns.

Itsgottobegreen
12-12-2004, 05:53 PM
I'd use a 36" Stander

As will everything else Impact says. I agree. A 36" stander. It's compactness will blow anything else away on those small properties. Maybe a 42" stander if the properties were a little bigger.

RedWingsDet
12-12-2004, 05:56 PM
you should be able to get a nice gravely beltdrive 36" probably 14horse kawa for around $600 used.

Lux Lawn
12-12-2004, 06:06 PM
I would go with a 48 inch Hydro.

clemsonfan69
12-12-2004, 06:07 PM
Id be doing anywhere from 5-15 yards per week for now. But in the summer, if I still have customers approaching me, I would add a few more.

36" WB seems to be the general consensus. If I were to go that route, itd take me a month or two to get the extra grand, b/c the one that caught my eye was the Better Quick 36", plus I think its a sign I should get that one LOL, the front page says "Used by Clemson University". The Mower, gator blades, and grass catcher is $2,195. Pricey but might be worth it.

Im still debating just using a 21" until I KNOW that I KNOW that I KNOW Ill have 15+ yards.

Thanx a TON for everyones input
CJ

YardPro
12-12-2004, 06:25 PM
the 44 with a mulch kit is fine.

Fareway Lawncare
12-12-2004, 06:26 PM
We do About 500 of the Type of Props you Pictured...Most are done w/21" Prolines and Lawnboy Commercial Units...The Bigger ones are Done w/32"..36"...48" Hydros w/Mulch Kits.

21" Proline is a Better Bet than a Belt Drive...or any Larger Unit w/Just a Block Off Plate as a Mulch Kit...You don't want to SideBlow those Props..& You Don't want to Haul a Belt Drive or a Single Drive Hydro for that Matter Around those Tightly Landscaped Areas All Day.

Envy Lawn Service
12-12-2004, 08:46 PM
You don't want to SideBlow those Props..& You Don't want to Haul a Belt Drive or a Single Drive Hydro for that Matter Around those Tightly Landscaped Areas All Day.

Totally agreeable! So do them with your current 42" and a good 21" if you have one. Feel it out this year, keep your existing nest egg and let your current units pay for more productive replacements next year if you feel you need them and want to stick with this type of work.

Precision
12-13-2004, 09:33 AM
If you are going to buy another mower, a 32,36,42 inch would all work, but tearing up the turf will be much worse with a walk behind than with a stander. Personally, I would use a 36 in stander if I was opposed to a 21 in toro proline.

tight curves and lots of obstacles make smaller mowers faster.

clemsonfan69
12-13-2004, 09:29 PM
Ok everyone.....got someone wants to buy my ZTR for $1000. I found this today, what do you think?

$1500
2002 Bunton Walk-Behind : Demo Unit
36" Deck
13 Hp Engine
Full Warranty

PIC HERE:
http://www.kensmowers.com/Bunton%20walk%20behind.jpg

I have to email the guy and ask if he has it still.

peace
CJ

Envy Lawn Service
12-13-2004, 09:33 PM
I hope you like to wrestle. That's all I have to say about belt drives and tight properties. I think I'd rather be on the 42" ZTR....

Itsgottobegreen
12-13-2004, 09:37 PM
Run as fast as you can from that bunton. I had one. Its the old bunton bullet or bunton standard mowers. Total junk. Trust me. Save your money. Mine was a night mare.

clemsonfan69
12-13-2004, 10:00 PM
Damn...lol...thought I had a deal. I guess Ill keep looking.

******
Or I could just sell the mower and use the cash as a down payment on this NICE red 2000 Camaro Ive had my eye on (Yes, I have a full time job, so payments no issue!)

*wakes up* sorry dreamin there :p

peace
CJ

TClawn
12-13-2004, 10:18 PM
what about the quick 36 it's a singe hydro but everyone who has one says that there very easy to turn.

clemsonfan69
12-14-2004, 12:17 AM
$2000+. Slightly out of my price range. thats a LOT of money to invest in something I dont know for a 100% fact will pay off. Yes I understand:

"It takes money to make money" and "If you put in 100%, youll get out 100%"

Not as simple as it seems ya know? ;)

peace
CJ