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alpine692003
12-12-2004, 02:20 PM
Welp,

Just like I suspected, I put an ad up looking for snow shovellers and I got responses from girls, lol... Now, I dont mind having girls onboard especially these 2 girls cause they are hot!

Any of you guys have female staff on your crew? Do you treat them like guys and make em work hard as well or do you just give them leniency...

:waving:

Randy Scott
12-12-2004, 02:58 PM
I've had at least one female on staff for the last three years. They have all worked just as hard as the guys, have better work ethics as well. Timeliness, carry tasks all the way to the end, have "the womans touch" as far as paying attention to details. They operate all the equipment as well as the guys. They are treated as equals. Fortunately for me, they have all been pretty darn strong as well. 50 pound bags of fert were no problem for them. Carrying the plate compactor with another guy, no problem. Wheelbarrows, no problem. They were all pretty small in size as well. 120 lbs. maybe.

Lastly, whatever their age, they hold a better conversation than the 20 year old guys. If I hear one more conversation about their "air cleaner" or "can exhaust" I'm going to flippen' snap.

alpine692003
12-12-2004, 03:01 PM
Cool, Randy..

I plan on adding several "female" staff to the crew for the snow service I will be getting..

I've never experienced the side of hiring, I've always been working for someone else who was a female supervisor or whatever, etc..

Now i get to switch and play on the otherside and I'll see how it is...

any of your female staff still remain with you?

SodKing
12-12-2004, 04:18 PM
a female was my best hire two years ago. She ran the crew better than many of the guys I have hired. I only wish she stayed on for more than one season.

Harleyboy52
12-12-2004, 04:29 PM
I'm a Capt. on the fire dept. and have a woman firefighter on my crew. I would pick her over any of the men on the crew. She is not as strong as most of them but she tries 150%. She is a great employee. I know if I went down in a burning structure she would probably die with me trying to pull me out, whereas I think a couple of the guys might run. I'm solo in the lawn business but I wouldn't think twice about hiring a woman. Maybe her?

specialtylc
12-12-2004, 06:04 PM
I have hired two women in the past. Neither one lasted past the first day. One had worked with her husband doing res. lawn care for 10 years. She said she couldnt handle doing the large commercial jobs we have. Not enough break time between jobs. The other one had never done lawn work before and just didnt have the strength and endurance to run a 21 inch mower all day, so we had to let her go. I wont be hiring anymore women any time soon.

YardPro
12-12-2004, 06:41 PM
. I wont be hiring anymore women any time soon.

be careful, that ststement can put you out of business

alpine692003
12-12-2004, 10:05 PM
Yes, be careful what you say..

I dont mind hiring females because this one is very hot lol... She likes doing landscaping and snow services, boy am I lucky.. something to look at and work with all day :waving:

Metro Lawn
12-12-2004, 10:28 PM
Both my brother's and my wife have plowed for us. My top landscape designer/installer is also female. I have no problems with hiring them at all.

alpine692003
12-12-2004, 11:25 PM
Thats good to know...
:rolleyes:

lawnwizards
12-13-2004, 12:31 AM
Yes, be careful what you say..

I dont mind hiring females because this one is very hot lol... She likes doing landscaping and snow services, boy am I lucky.. something to look at and work with all day :waving:

maybe you should take your own advice. whos to say she doesn't get on lawnsite or maybe know someone that does and sees your comments. theres a fine line between being friendly and sexual harrassment.

alpine692003
12-13-2004, 12:37 AM
LOL, I know the fine line..

I'm not going to say, uhh you're freaking gorgeous and start touching her and caress her..

tiedeman
12-13-2004, 12:53 AM
I have only hired on one female ever, was a good hard worker for the first week, but then everything fell apart. She expected someone to be there all time helping her out with landscaping installation projects. She had an attitude problem where she would roll her eyes at me too and then cry like crazy when I wouldn't give her something that she wanted. She lasted 3 weeks before I let her go. I don't have a problem with them, and if someone was good I would hire them on, but this girl left a bad taste in my mouth.

arborist-28
12-13-2004, 01:03 AM
Last time I checked it wasn't sexual harassment to say a girl looks hot ??? Lol, you guys are hilarious ... Hire 'em they will be great for business... If they don't do the job expected, fire 'em... Be professional, expect professionals, and keep it all on a professional, business like level... c

alpine692003
12-13-2004, 01:05 AM
Yah, american people tend to think funny..

:dizzy: :dizzy:

HOOLIE
12-13-2004, 01:06 AM
I've worked with one female that was awesome, another who was did good work but was lazy, and a couple that were clueless. Kinda like a cross-section of male workers...LOL. Sometimes they'll work harder than a guy, they know they have to prove their worth to the rest of the employees.

alpine692003
12-13-2004, 01:09 AM
Yah, I guess we'll find out some way or another..

:p

JimLewis
12-13-2004, 03:28 AM
Hey, Cunnuck! Give me a shout on AIM and we'll discuss this topic.

-Yankee

lawnwizards
12-13-2004, 06:56 AM
Last time I checked it wasn't sexual harassment to say a girl looks hot ???

say it to her face and if she doesn't like it, youre out a business my friend... because it is indeed sexual harrassment...


lawnwizards

YardPro
12-13-2004, 07:32 AM
arborist
no, but is is illegal to say you won't hire females.

dcondon
12-13-2004, 09:56 AM
say it to her face and if she doesn't like it, youre out a business my friend... because it is indeed sexual harrassment...


lawnwizards

No it is not sexual harrassment!!!!!!!!!!! That goes for the State of Maine and also the state of Michigan!!!!!!!!!

lawnwizards
12-13-2004, 10:05 AM
No it is not sexual harrassment!!!!!!!!!!! That goes for the State of Maine and also the state of Michigan!!!!!!!!!
Definition

A. unwanted sexual attention from a person who knows or ought reasonably to know that such attention is unwanted; or
B. implied or expressed promise of reward for complying with a sexually-oriented request; or
C. implied or expressed threat of reprisal or actual reprisal for refusal to comply with a sexually oriented request: or
D. a sexual relationship which constitutes an abuse of power in a relationship of trust; or
E. sexually oriented remarks or behaviour which may reasonably be perceived to create a negative psychological and emotional environment for work and study.


O.K. pal, what is it then if it isn't sexual harrassment?

LawnScapers of Dayton
12-13-2004, 10:35 AM
I think that fits under "Letter E".... And why would you want to take the risk of saying stuff like that anyway....

You have to base your comments of how it makes the female feel.....not how you think she does or would feel......

Even if you got sued and won.......the damage is done....

Derek

pjslawncare/landscap
12-13-2004, 10:36 AM
I tried three females workers that answered my add earlier this year and none lasted more than a day. All said they could handle the hard work when I stated that this work is tough. I see other females locally that seem to do well, but I figure I was just unlucky

alpine692003
12-13-2004, 12:23 PM
Welp, you americans ..

I guess I'll try my luck with the female and let you guys know..

Flex-Deck
12-13-2004, 12:33 PM
My wife mows with me a couple of days a week and is great help. She knows how to drive straight, take a full swath, maximize speed according to roughness of terrain. She plain gets a lot done per hr. without sacrificeing quality. Thanks, Brad

PS. With her on the JD 455, and me on the JD 595, we can mow a 17 acre (biweekly-gets pretty tall) area behind a mall in 2 hrs. 50 minutes.

Grassmechanic
12-13-2004, 01:31 PM
No it is not sexual harrassment!!!!!!!!!!! That goes for the State of Maine and also the state of Michigan!!!!!!!!!

Ummm, yes it is. Been there. Done that. LawnWizards is dead on the money on this one.

LawnMowerBoy48
12-13-2004, 01:31 PM
I am a student at UMass Amherst and there are quite a few women on the grounds crew here. They do everything from mowing to clean ups to mulching. Considering the size of the campus they keep everything in pretty good shape.

FrankenScagMachines
12-13-2004, 02:01 PM
So, I take it that you would probably have legal complications if you hired a gay employee? LOL i can see it now... hahaha ROFL!!! :p

Steppenwolf
12-13-2004, 02:07 PM
If you don't hire females you are missing out a very good group of employees when you find the ones that understand what business they are in and what it takes to make a buck. Only had one that left after a day,they are easier to train because they really want to know how to do the job. The young bucks usually know everything already and aren't willing to try something 'my' way.
Just like any group of employees, ya got the good and the bad ones.
They may not know how to fix a broken piece of equiptment but it is not made any worse by them messing with it.

richard coffman
12-13-2004, 02:35 PM
When i was younger, I've worked with girls who worked on the grounds crew. they can do the job and are willing to prove it if warrented. I'd treat them as one of the crew and not give any slack, cause that wouldn't do anything but cause problems for the girl and for the guys. just treat them all equal and you won't haft to deal with all the bull. :rolleyes: :D :D :D :D :D

Respectfully,


RIchard/owner

Branchland
12-13-2004, 02:38 PM
Actually my wife is the owner. That's just on paper. But she does do anything I do out on the job including pricing. Because of her we do pick up alot of work. She's a great people person and is a great sales person.

coastallandscapesolutions
12-13-2004, 05:17 PM
We've got two and they work just as well as the men and even pay better attention to detail. I don't care what color or sex they are... as long as they can do the job and look professional.

dcondon
12-14-2004, 07:11 PM
Definition

A. unwanted sexual attention from a person who knows or ought reasonably to know that such attention is unwanted; or
B. implied or expressed promise of reward for complying with a sexually-oriented request; or
C. implied or expressed threat of reprisal or actual reprisal for refusal to comply with a sexually oriented request: or
D. a sexual relationship which constitutes an abuse of power in a relationship of trust; or
E. sexually oriented remarks or behaviour which may reasonably be perceived to create a negative psychological and emotional environment for work and study.


O.K. pal, what is it then if it isn't sexual harrassment?


I'm telling you it is not against the law in Maine and Michigan to say, "You're hot," to a woman. Remarks are made like that every day when people flirt with one another. I was a police officer in the state of Maine and a security officer at a casino in Michigan and have never had a woman complain about any remarks made to her like that. I don't know how it is where you are from but that's not how it is here.

alpine692003
12-14-2004, 08:54 PM
Yes, neither is it in Canada..

But like I said, that is the american term from lawnwizard.

lawnwizards
12-14-2004, 09:18 PM
Yes, neither is it in Canada..

But like I said, that is the american term from lawnwizard.

go ahead and do what you want you jackasses. but when you lose your business don't post a thread on here crying that you should've listened because all i'll say is "i told you so"

breckslawncare
12-14-2004, 10:10 PM
Like several other people on this website< I am as well a LCO/PCO and a firefighter. We live in a world where equal opportunity in not nessicerily an option. Yes this has it's benifeits, and it's shortcomings. I have no problem with a woman backing my ass up in a structure fire or a week after a rainy few days. Most girls I work with are genuine sweethearts and faithfull workers. To make the situation works its best, enjoy that swwet ass from a distance and don't ever make things awkward. She'll probably be a great employee, or a hell of a plantiff in court. Don't be afraid of 'em just treat 'em right.

leeslawncare
12-14-2004, 10:24 PM
Well... i got one that works with me!..She is hot an stuff..an now after 1 year i just found out she is pregnant!!!!!....................................She is my wife.Been married 5 years. She does my books. Half partner an,we have been trying for over a year!!. Next month we were going to start the adoption process but .....Looks like our cruise to the carribean brought us home a gift!!!

Top that!!LOL :blob3: :cool2:

Green Pastures
12-14-2004, 10:43 PM
My 71 year old mother works with me 95% of the time I go out to work. She's the 3rd best employee I've ever had.

The second best was also a woman. A 22 year old named Chrissy. She was hot and she worked her butt off and rarely ever complained. Only thing was she simply could not start anything that was pull start, did everything else though. Just couldn't get the hang of the snap pull required to start, she wanted to soft pull all the pull cords.

The best employee I've had was a 14 year old boy. If I told him to go get something for me he would RUN there and back and I mean run at full sprint. Never complains. Always on time. Will not stop working unless I do. The kid is a phenom. He want's to fly jet's in the Air Force, he'll make it too. Straight A+ student.

I'm going to hate to lose him.

Smalltimer1
12-14-2004, 10:46 PM
My wife mows with me a couple of days a week and is great help. She knows how to drive straight, take a full swath, maximize speed according to roughness of terrain. She plain gets a lot done per hr. without sacrificeing quality. Thanks, Brad

PS. With her on the JD 455, and me on the JD 595, we can mow a 17 acre (biweekly-gets pretty tall) area behind a mall in 2 hrs. 50 minutes.


How do you like the 455 and 595? I run and collect JD's myself, got a '69 JD 140 I'm working on restoring right now. Biggest garden tractor JD made back then.

alpine692003
12-15-2004, 02:00 AM
Lawnwizard you are just a lawn monkey..

lawnwizards
12-15-2004, 07:00 AM
Lawnwizard you are just a lawn monkey..maybe so, but atleast i'm not canadian. touche!

Grassmechanic
12-15-2004, 07:49 AM
I'm telling you it is not against the law in Maine and Michigan to say, "You're hot," to a woman. Remarks are made like that every day when people flirt with one another. I was a police officer in the state of Maine and a security officer at a casino in Michigan and have never had a woman complain about any remarks made to her like that. I don't know how it is where you are from but that's not how it is here.

You may be a cop, but you're obviously not a judge. If you say "your hot" to an employee and they are offended, prepare to lose your job. Believe me, I was involved in a petty case like this where three people were fired (I was deposed and had to testify in court).