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Imager
12-20-2004, 10:09 PM
This is going to be my First truck purchase, so I'm looking around for something nice has good gas mileage. I'm going between a Chevy and a Toyota 1/2 ton, year model 2000 and up, whats your recommendation.

i_plant_art
12-21-2004, 12:29 AM
a ford 2000 or up f350 or up 7.3 or 6.0 PSD. thats my recomendation..... LOL i would not buy a toyota if you plan on being in the landscape business... look around how many landscapers much less people do you see driving toyota trucks? i would go for the chevy if i had to choose b/t the 2 of those otherwise i would buy a ford. just my .02

Guthrie&Co
12-21-2004, 12:43 AM
tit for tat just whatever you like. as for the toyota unless you need the full size truck go for it

TurfGuyTX
12-21-2004, 01:54 AM
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out4now
12-21-2004, 01:56 AM
How many lawns are you doing? Will you be hauling a trailer? Will you be hauling clippings? A toyota may work for you if you won't be hauling much. If you plan on using this very few yards it should be ok. On a larger scale I think you would be happier with something larger. It all depends on what you are trying to do. A full lawn trailer and heavy hauling will make the purchase of a 3/4 to a one ton more attractive. Will this be for work only? Are you going to write off the expense? Just some things to consider. Match tool to the job. jmy.02

Oldtimer
12-25-2004, 02:12 PM
Don't get a toy truck because someone told you the HD trucks used more gas. Gas is not a factor unless you are driving a lot of miles each day. The HD truck has better brakes, tires rated for a higher load, better cooling, stronger frame and is much safer when pulling a load.

I tried smaller trucks for towing and spent a lot of money on brakes & clutches. We just retired a (twice wrecked by empolyees) 1998 GMC 2500 with 235,000 miles on it. A HD unit with an automatic transmission is a lot less trouble, especially, if you have hired help driving it.

If you are buying new, have a look at the Ford with factory installed trailer brakes. I have an '05 Ford F250 SD CC KR 6.0 with towing package w/trailer brakes and have to check the mirrors to make sure my trailer (3500#) is still there.

Oldtimer

bdemir
12-25-2004, 10:41 PM
A toyota tundra is a good choice. its a full size truck and you can add springs to it making it a 3/4 ton if you like and it will just about pull anything you can throw at it. Its also make in US. Unless you want a 1 ton you cant go wrong.

Oldtimer
12-26-2004, 01:40 AM
Just adding springs won't automatically change the GVW of a vehicle. If that was true, everyone would buy 1/2 ton trucks and just add springs which would save thousands of dollars.

Oldtimer

out4now
12-26-2004, 02:54 AM
I know Cal emissions are strict can you purchase a deisel there for what you want? I was going to recomend comming here to get something and then I remembered the emission problem. You could probably get one cheaper here than there but not sure how it would work out. Tax, title and lic. might be cheaper over there. My arborist friend went all the way back to Illinois to get his Power Stroke Ford and saved a bundle.

ForeverGreen
12-26-2004, 12:02 PM
Have you put enough miles on the 6.0 PSD (05) to tell how the mileage is ??I have an 05 supercab F350 6.0 that has 3500 miles on it and is getting 8mpg.(no trailer) Dealer states put 5000 on it and if not better will do a warranty claim.Bought Lariat package and when I couldnt find the compass and fuel calculator was told I needed to order the "enhanced" Lariat even though they were standard on the 04's. For $40.000 X-plan not a great value to date, Ted

UNISCAPER
12-26-2004, 12:37 PM
I have an 04 3500 Chevy, Duramax/Allison package. We dance between high 14's and a tad over 18 MPG on the higway, and that is with a pipe rack on top.

I would not get any truck under 3/4 ton, 8600 GVW minimum. Stay away from Ford until thier transmission is proven, especially with all the hills and mountains around Fresno. Around by us, they are going down left and right. You will need a large external oil cooler for the tranny, the Chevy comes standard with one the size of the radiator. You will also need extra braking capacity, that a 1/2 ton can't give you. By the sound of your post, you are trying to stick within a budget, or, don't want to spend alot. When your 1/2 ton truck is down every other month replacing brakes, or in for a very costly transmission ($2K and up) you just spent every dime you saved in the repairs and when they are all over you still have a 1/2 ton truck. It is always best to buy a truck one range over the weight you pull every day than to run your truck to max all the time.

UNISCAPER
12-26-2004, 12:42 PM
I frgot one thing. You can save money if you buy your truck out of state, on the purchase. You will get bent over the barrel if you buy an out of state truck and then have to get California tags. The DMV will make you go through inspection, and on a new vehicle, the tax for tags is somewhere around 9%. So, 30K for a new truck, plan on a $2,800.00 license and title fee in the Cal DMV.

Oldtimer
12-26-2004, 03:52 PM
ForeverGreen,

My '05 gets 9-10 MPG in the fun zone and 12.0-12.5 if I drive sensibly. My understanding is that the engine is pretty well broken in by 20,000 miles and it's ok to begin using synthetic oil at 10,000 miles

The performance is awesome for a >7000# truck. The truck listed for $50,350
so it has most of the options including the computer. Most people say the computer lies about the MPG.

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Oldtimer